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A detail you didn't comment on body language, you can see at 6:31 in this video, he is fighting his survival impulses to make Batman mad. His head is sinking low, like trying to get away from the punches and his hands are instinctively trying to protect his face, but he does not really cover his face, he fights that impulse while keeping eye sight, challenging Batman. Nice video. I'm learning a lot. 👍
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Joker seems more comfortable the second batman emerges. He's really tense with Gordon. But with batman, he's talking to a guy he connects with. Another freak. Watch how his demeanor changes.
Shows that Ledger did his home work as to the Joker's warped mind Batman is his best friend, the one person in the entire world who he can relate to. So much so even when Joker has a chance to find out who Batman is he just doesn't care as he sees Batman as just Batman not a man under the mask which is disturbing close to the truth as Bruce Wayne is more like a character Bruce puts on in public than who he really is. Disturbing and compelling character dynamics with these two and seems Ledger really picked up on it then ran with it to great effect.
This literally made me laugh out loud. Best YT comment I’ve seen in awhile. And no, I’m not being a sarcastic asshole. Well done, sir. We definitely live in a society.
@@thedarkknight3107 The point joker was making that that society was a bunch of monsters just waiting to be awakened to the fact that the rules governing them was a joke. The 'ahead of the curve' part was meant to say that Joker realized this point before they did.
@@jefflastname1394 Yeah I always look way to into people's facial expressions and their body language but it always turns out that if they don't look into your eyes they are lying 90 percent of the time lol
Joker licking his lips constantly was something Ledger did to keep his lip prosthetics on without having to stop a scene to have it fixed, and it fits the character perfectly.
The make-up guy confirmed this along with the fact that they let Ledger put on his own make-up often so it looked more authentic DIY. As the movie proceeds, see how the make-up gets more and more messy and uncontrolled.
The funny thing is that if Joker was real and he saw these videos, he’d come find you. He’s never been particularly kind to anyone attempting to psychoanalyze him.
What's really scary here? I find myself wanting to agree with the Joker. Sometimes us humans must accept that we really can't control everything around us.
That's always been true. And there have always been people who can control their own reactions. Always viewed this movie as the Joker's fantasy of how he would like the Batman to behave. But in the comics, Batman never (or only very very rarely) did. Movie batman is very emotional compared to comic book batman.
@@SubjectiveObserver it gives his head and neck more comfort and room for movement in combat, in comparison with suit designs in other batman films. remember that batman is basically a trained ninja and fighting crime would be difficult if movement of the head was limited by your suit.
You can also see as Joker's emotional manipulation is getting to Gordon that not only his lip is moving odd but his eyes are becoming glossy, indicating that he's on the verge of tears but desperately trying to hold them back without looking too obvious as to still stand by that state of confidence.
Yes...and making Gordon "responsible" for Harvey's predicament and responsible for saving him renders Gordon ripe for the final scene when Harvey has his family. When Batman tells him not to breach the skyscraper yet, because nothing is as it seems, Gordon gives Batman only a couple of minutes after Batman forces him to by just going and not waiting...Gordon says he has to save Harvey so he comes out of alignment with Batman, he jumps the gun to order the breach and the hostages almost get killed because of it. Joker knew Gordon's guilt for losing Harvey at the hospital as well as of course his guilt for not getting to Rachel in time would break him down, impair his judgment. Gordon totally forgets that Harvey pretty much threatened Gordon in the hospital when Gordan says he's sorry about Rachel and for not heeding his warning about bad cops in his unit and Harvey says "No you're not sorry...not yet".
@@bloodspittingspartan5002 what gave you that idea? he actually gets hurt, even WITH real armor. joker is standing right next to the explosion, that destroys the station... not a scratch.
@@bloodspittingspartan5002 oh yea, and the cop he "easily tackled", was a 20 year veteran. and he tackled him from a sitting position. this is belt armor levels of protection.
@@bloodspittingspartan5002 1: the explosion incapacitated all the cops, even those , who were much further away and in other rooms. despite him being one of the closest, not a scratch... 2: strength and skill is fine, but WE HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM TRAINING!! IN FACT, TRAINING AND AND PLANNING IS AGAINST HIS OWN PHILOSOPHY!! dodging and striking is fine, but from a sitting position against a VETERAN OPPONENT, WHO HATES YOU??? this plot armor is thicker than the belt armor on a battleship. but, when all is said and done: this movie is on my top 3 list. heath ledgers performance is really making this character so alive, that its scary. ironically, it cost him his own life...
Another detail, when The Joker gets hurt he always does that hard "stretch" He did it in this scene and when he fell out of the truck that flipped over.
Heath isolated himself for days and binged in scary shit before he played the Joker. Literally, he deliberately did harm to his psyche to the point where he gave himself issues. Nobody thought he was going to be a good Joker.
@@deadshotya0974 Michael Caine too. That party scene was the first time Michael saw Heath in full makeup and character and it terrified him so bad that he nearly had a full panic attack.
@@enigmabodylanguage if you're taking suggestions, the scene where Joker talks to Dent in the hospital after he's burned would be really cool to see analysed :)
There's a difference between someone brutally beating someone else because it's an intimidation tactic vs. doing it because you've lost control. Batman's MO is the Jack Bauer Method, so the distinction is important.
This shows what a genius Christopher Nolan is....more than a Decade and his movies are analysed still.... What a performance by Heath Ledger hats off 👌👌
"Batman throws Joker over the table before repeatedly punching him in the face. This is a sign that Batman is angry and wants Joker to answer his question."
Without Heath he wouldn’t have been able to inspire others to do his work, while at the same time showing you must be very careful in a role. We deserve him, he’s one of the greatest actors
One of my favorite lines is the "depending on the time he could be in one place...or many places." Which on the face implies that they're moving him from place to place as a prisoner. But it also foreshadows the explosion just ahead where Dent and Rachel are put in jeopardy and Rachel is then killed. But then it ALSO foreshadows Two-Face, a man of two faces--or two places at once. And on top of THAT, the allusion just under that layer to the MENTAL fracturing of Harvey into Two-Face. It's just a really simple, really effective line that both concisely narrows the stakes from beginning of movie to that point and then perfectly encapsulates the "plan" (or present tense ultra-manipulation if not, which would be difficult to believe but not impossible-- I err on the side of Joker has the barebones of the full idea but the details are figured out closer in the moment, i digress) he enacts from that point forward. It is both the smoke of the first half as well as the fuse igniting the bomb to come.
It’s also an extremely graphic way to tell Gordon “you’re up against a clock you can’t see and unless you save him, Harvey is going to be blown to pieces.” At that point Gordon has to retreat but from that point on his emotional state is altered and his judgment is impaired because he does feel responsible for Harvey’s predicament. This plays out in the end at the skyscraper when he doesn’t wait as long as Batman advises him to before breaching - he jumps the gun and almost gets the hostages killed. He says “I’ve got to save Harvey”. Joker has him thinking of Harvey as victim when actually by that time he’s become the perp and Gordon literally forgets that when he goes to the hospital to see Harvey he makes a threat that Gordon is not as sorry as he’s going to be. He doesn’t see it coming when Harvey kidnaps his family .
As a professional actor I appreciate these videos because lay people generally have no idea how layered and complex the work of actors, directors, and filmmakers really are. ❤️
Not an attempt at discrediting you or any other body language experts, but what I feel is so superb about this entire scene, is that it’s so well done, that anyone, regardless of whether or not they’re fans of the series in general, can watch it, and FEEL like they are actually witnessing an exchange that feels raw, emotional, and genuine. That alone is a rare testament to the extraordinary performance of these three separate, actors, and is INCREDIBLY rare in modern filmography. I wish Heath had at least lived long enough to appreciate the utmost adoration that his portrayal of the Joker received, but in a way, I think he knew his performance was gold. Even the most modest individual knows when they’ve done something astounding, and given the dedicated performance we witnessed in this film, it’s impossible to believe that he was unsure of his incredible portrayal, and how it totally blew everything preceding it out of the water.
*YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE, THAT EVERYONE WAS AT JOKERS MERCY, HE BROUGHT EVERYONE INTO HIS GAME FORCEFULLY HAVING NO CHOICE! AS HE LAUGHED, & DESTROYED THEIR LIVES WHILE THEY HAD NOTHING TO HURT HIM WITH.*
Looking at Batman's body language his movements are all fluid and controlled, no shuffling of his feet or awkward shifting of positions. When he's at the table he's completely still and maintains eye contact, a tactic which normally would work on small time goons but not the Joker. It's interesting that he sits down at all with him, he was probably trying to appeal to the Joker and get him to lower his defenses. Really shows how he's unsure of just how to deal with the Joker, but later falls for the bait and attacks him.
You can also she in the Joker's face as he says that he's not a monster, that calm sincerity, like he's telling the truth, or at least what he thinks the truth, proving how far he's gone into madness to the point where he thinks that he's doing Gotham a favour, not being a psychopathic lunatic. This is also further shown he believes this when he visits the mob members and one of them says that he's crazy and he replies in a serious and sort of hurt voice, "I'm not. No, I'm not", showing that he took that personally and is stating that he doesn't think that of himself at all. Really nice touch of Heath Ledger there.
And the facial expression that goes with it. Factual. No homicidal glee. Just straightly (brilliantly) delivered…but the way he drops his head but maintains eye contact feels like he’s saying with his facial expression something like “if you get my meaning”…😂😂😂
6:09 when he laughs after saying his line and gets punched it's like what he said was the setup to a joke, and batman immediately punching him is the punchline, because of how joker looks really closely at batmans fist while still laughing, like it's the punch he's laughing at itself.
This is especially true because he knows that as long as he keeps batman there beating him up the closer he is to winning the actual "game" they're playing, and he says just as much literally 30 seconds after laughing at batman's punch. And all the joker has to do is take a beating (he's a god at doing this) and not give any real information.
What I love most about Ledger's performance is how much it's been influenced by Tom Waites - watch interviews with Waites and you'll see exactly why he's so inspiring. God, I would LOVE to see an analysis of the famous interview
something I'm surprised you didn't touch on was Gordon's nostrils flaring, I would think that would mean something like him trying to control his anger or something similar.
Everytime joker says “and tonight your gonna have to break your one rule” I just think they could’ve made the script to make joker say “and tonight your gonna have to break yours.”
I think the point of the wording is to stress and drive home the fact that batman only has ONE rule and that HE (the Joker) is in complete control and is going to force batman to play HIS game AND break that ONE rule all in one master stroke... and he is going to enjoy watching batman do it.
He forgot the oldest trick in the book joker looked away when he told where Dent and Rachel are so he did flip the addresses when Batman went after her and got Dent instead 😂
Taunting. The whole thing was about taunting Batman. Joker was plucking strings he knew would make vibrate the entire time. Nothing Bruce could do in that room at that time would change things. It was already well set up and this interaction was part of it. Batman's interrogation was key to it. If Batman had not slammed Joker against the mirror, giving him access to a weapon, he'd never have gotten a phone and escape. This was all planned for and prepped.
The laughing after getting blasted like that....fkn goat....watch his eyes before he gets punched...since he really was getting punched he had to keep track of the punch so it didn't knock him out
It's even more subtle than that when he uses microexpressions... When he says the first address his eyes look slightly up and to his left. This indicates something between a visual and auditory fabrication... in other words, this is the point where he uses the fabrication and sends those listening to the wrong addresses. When he gives the second address he looks directly to the right, indicating an auditory memory rather than a fabrication, indicating that he needed to remember (also indicated by the slight pause) the second address. He also looks directly at Batman as he finishes the address to reinforce what he is saying as a truth. Fascinating stuff! Great channel by the way! Newly subscribed.
Ironically the eye movements are somewhat unreliable, but he does act as what is commonly assumed the default movements are. He really was an excellent actor....
Yeah, this and the first "Interrogation" of Hannibal Lecter by Clarice Starling. It's not just the situation, and the role reversal. The prisoner getting more out of the interrogator, but how it's filmed. How it's performed, and how it makes you feel. Hannibal Lecter actually gains trust from his interrogator, when it's Hannibal Lecter. You know what he is, you know what he does, and yet you can't help but trust him, because of the way he Forces intimacy in that scene. The joker in this scene, especially when it switches from Gordon to Batman. He starts off giving him tips on how to beat him. Ends up with you have nothing to threaten me with, but it's bookended by that. Batman lost it, because he's used to being feared. Used to being in control, used to having everything he needs in his Utility Belt when he leaves the Batcave. Joker gets under his skin, because he's not prepared for this. He can't prepare for this, because all of his techniques, and tactics work towards the prisoner's goals. That was the plan: Make Batman feel helpless, again. His nightmare now that he's taken the Bat, and turned it against Gotham is not knowing what to do, and now he's locked in a room with not knowing what to do.
Notice Joker looks Batman straight in the eye when saying “I’ll tell you where they both are,” being sincere. But looks away as he’s giving the addresses, lying about which one is where, and then returns his gaze to Batman’s eyes. My guess is Joker is doing this knowingly to test Batman, but he’s so riled up he instantly believes what Joker says.
Can you do the scene from Batman v Superman where Lex meets Superman on the rooftop? Everyone says they don't like Jesse Eisenberg's interpretation of Lex but I kinda like it in that scene.
Joker knew somebody was behind him , he looks left and right fast to see which way the person would come from. He close's his eyes before batman smashed his head into the table. I guess he did this same thing once and know's interrogation stategie's as he refurs too aswell. Don't start with the head it makes the 'victim' all fuzy.
One more thing, when Joker asked Commissioner Gordon the time, he didn't tell him. He proceeded to uncuff Joker and in that specific moment Joker saw the time on Gordon's watch.
Ever since I made the recommendation to review part of "Apocalypse Now", I have had "There Will Be Blood" on my mind. I believe it is a great (and hidden) love story, but from whom and to whom is the love being directed is the question... I would absolutely give anything to see what you thought about any of the scenes in that movie!
I couldn’t imagine a theme any less appropriate to describe that film than “a love story.” Its not a love story. You’d have to be insane to interpret that
little details like this really make movies great and it's sad how movies now are forgetting the small details like this that really make the characters feel real in movies
For someone to be on the level of realism and earned skills that Batman is... requires being a Realist. A Realist does not see the Glass as being "Half full", nor "half empty" ... but instead, see it as both. If he was actually upset with the mention of weak morals, then its more likely to do with his own inner weaknesses. Remember, that Batman blocked off the door, and started using physical violence. This shows that he himself could not maintain his own level of morals, values, and self control. That said... Id guess it was more to do with just being severely upset that peoples lives were on the line, due to the manipulations of a crazed psychopath. It doesnt matter to Batman that people are capable of doing bad things (and do bad things) ...as Batman is not that much of an extremist. He typically only goes after the extremist criminal element. Not the kid whom steals a toy from a toy-store, nor even dealing with a simple drug addict... that is not robbing nor threatening others. The Joker, however... is a radical, that is almost trying to justify his own psychopathic narcissism. He paints everyone in either Black or White... with no range in between. He almost wants to prove, that his ways of seeing and dealing with the world, is the best way. He wants to revel in others failing... being discovered as hypocrites.. that will act in the worst of ways... every single time, when challenged. But all of that said... The fact is... that the Jokers many excuses and justification are not really needed. They are more a tool of Psychological Manipulation games. He really does not have to have a reason, excuse, etc... as he merely enjoys doing what he does. He gets off on harming others... most especially with psychological abuse games (Pushing others emotional buttons. Tying to "Crack" them, as if their mind and soul, was a puzzle / game). The verbal games he uses, are more for the Theatrics, Emotional responses from others, and to throw people off, via manipulations. If I recall correctly... he had told a story about how he got his wide "Smile". However, each time he told the story... it was different. This shows that his stories were merely mind games, rather than the actual truth. As said.. the Psychopath needs no rhyme nor reason. They are born without a conscience, morals, values..etc. They feel no empathy for others pain, and suffering... and they get off on the thrill and challenges, of doing some of the darkest of deeds.
5:31 when the joker quoted “if you want to save one of them”. His eyebrows raised twice. As he is toying with him. As he is enjoying to see Batman lose control.
Did you know, that the jokers fake scars for the makeup kept curling up, so the actor would lick his lips to uncurl the scars, but over time licking his lips just became part of his character?
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A detail you didn't comment on body language, you can see at 6:31 in this video, he is fighting his survival impulses to make Batman mad. His head is sinking low, like trying to get away from the punches and his hands are instinctively trying to protect his face, but he does not really cover his face, he fights that impulse while keeping eye sight, challenging Batman.
Nice video. I'm learning a lot. 👍
Sorry to hear that. You have good content.
Hey it’s goddess
“the loud blows landing and bones crunching indicate Batman’s pummelling the shit out of the Joker
never noticed that one omg
Cant believe they missed that one
Scribbling in notebook intensifies
Amazing deduction!
Heath Ledger actually told Christian Bale to really hit him and beat him up and they did, so that probably helped in selling the scene more.
This only further proves that Heath Ledger's Joker was on a tier of its own
You. YOU!!!
@@lesenigma2536 let em be, he simply follows the algorithm
We meet yet again
@@zelven6109 oof
Fuck this imma sub
_batman literally choke slams and beats the shit out of the joker_
"he's clearly feeling emotional"
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@@EagerUA-camr currently has 498 likes 4+9+8=21
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@On God? 9 +6= 15
1+5= 6
6 is divisible by 3 and 2
3+2 =5
5 secs it took you to read this and waste you life.... 5 secs you can't get back.
Thank you because I now added that to my life...I will live 5 secs longer thanks to you.
And despite all that, joker is enjoying it because in the end, he's the one in charge
Joker seems more comfortable the second batman emerges. He's really tense with Gordon. But with batman, he's talking to a guy he connects with. Another freak. Watch how his demeanor changes.
He literally leans in during their conversation- like he’s letting him in on a secret, one unstoppable force to an immovable object.
Shows that Ledger did his home work as to the Joker's warped mind Batman is his best friend, the one person in the entire world who he can relate to. So much so even when Joker has a chance to find out who Batman is he just doesn't care as he sees Batman as just Batman not a man under the mask which is disturbing close to the truth as Bruce Wayne is more like a character Bruce puts on in public than who he really is. Disturbing and compelling character dynamics with these two and seems Ledger really picked up on it then ran with it to great effect.
@Kangarooster Makes the best batman movie, though.
@Kangarooster i heard that he had died but he died making the movie? i want to know more about it what actually happened?
The Joker seems to like Batman, which is kind of funny and a little ironic because Batman has no love for the Joker whatsoever.
Finally, now I can truly replicate living in a society.
We truly do live in a society
We do be livin in a society tho
Live society do we truely a
This literally made me laugh out loud. Best YT comment I’ve seen in awhile. And no, I’m not being a sarcastic asshole. Well done, sir. We definitely live in a society.
Live in a society truly, do we.
"I'm not a monster... I am just ahead of the curve." - Joker
What does that mean?
@@thedarkknight3107 The point joker was making that that society was a bunch of monsters just waiting to be awakened to the fact that the rules governing them was a joke. The 'ahead of the curve' part was meant to say that Joker realized this point before they did.
"Bird"
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@@forceinfinity honestly he’s not exactly wrong😅🤔
@@forceinfinity society is good
I feel bad for this guy because it’s probably very hard to watch a movie without noticing that some thing is unrealistic and makes no sense
Mostly cheap American TV shows I can't watch. Its cringe XD
@@enigmabodylanguage Maybe do fuller house to see how bad it is
Or games as well, since games are controlled
@@FabioKun yeah L.A. Noire would be a great example because of the interrogation segments.
@@jefflastname1394 Yeah I always look way to into people's facial expressions and their body language but it always turns out that if they don't look into your eyes they are lying 90 percent of the time lol
The fact that you can read Heath ledgers body language like he is the joker is proof he was such a good actor, he was the joker
Hes the true joker
@@sytherchain7571 new joker way better
@@cohlurs8642 can't compare since phoenix Joker shows how ledgers joker became the sadistic psychopath and he did a great job
@@cohlurs8642 Go rewatch The Dark Knight. You are dead wrong. Heath Ledgers Joker is the best joker ever.
@@TylerBH of course i was wrong tf?
Joker licking his lips constantly was something Ledger did to keep his lip prosthetics on without having to stop a scene to have it fixed, and it fits the character perfectly.
It was actually a tick Ledger had. He does it in other stuff he's been in.
makeup dried his lips too, I've heard
@@TimedRevolver it’s not a tic, it’s just a habit he has
The make-up guy confirmed this along with the fact that they let Ledger put on his own make-up often so it looked more authentic DIY. As the movie proceeds, see how the make-up gets more and more messy and uncontrolled.
@@TimedRevolver it wasn't a tick, it was to push out the cheek prosthetics
The funny thing is that if Joker was real and he saw these videos, he’d come find you. He’s never been particularly kind to anyone attempting to psychoanalyze him.
Oof
@@thejoker1840 well played Mr J.
@@thejoker1840 who said he is?
@@enigmabodylanguage nah don't worry he'll just try to put a smile in your face
Fuck me and my butterfingers. My comment has been permanently erased from the internet, and a piece of my soul went with it.
What's really scary here? I find myself wanting to agree with the Joker. Sometimes us humans must accept that we really can't control everything around us.
That's always been true. And there have always been people who can control their own reactions.
Always viewed this movie as the Joker's fantasy of how he would like the Batman to behave. But in the comics, Batman never (or only very very rarely) did.
Movie batman is very emotional compared to comic book batman.
Only sometimes?
The scariest villains are the ones who make sense.
@@MichaelJCaboose013 Absolutely!
Just think about fights in the supermarket about toilet paper!
I just realised how stupid batman looks in a bright room lol
Lol
It's the worst mask design I've seen. I'd rather have the bat-nips suit than this weird round head.
Really I think he looks great?
@@SubjectiveObserver it gives his head and neck more comfort and room for movement in combat, in comparison with suit designs in other batman films.
remember that batman is basically a trained ninja and fighting crime would be difficult if movement of the head was limited by your suit.
@@SubjectiveObserver worse mask design? are we forgetting 1966 mask design?
You can also see as Joker's emotional manipulation is getting to Gordon that not only his lip is moving odd but his eyes are becoming glossy, indicating that he's on the verge of tears but desperately trying to hold them back without looking too obvious as to still stand by that state of confidence.
Not to mention his nostrils flaring ever more obviously and rapidly as the interaction progresses, along with repeatedly swallowing.
Agree with Macross, the first thing I noticed about Gordon during that scene was the thing with the nostrils.
Yeah
This futher proves how not afraid the joker is of batman when he starts to beat him up he laughs
Yes...and making Gordon "responsible" for Harvey's predicament and responsible for saving him renders Gordon ripe for the final scene when Harvey has his family. When Batman tells him not to breach the skyscraper yet, because nothing is as it seems, Gordon gives Batman only a couple of minutes after Batman forces him to by just going and not waiting...Gordon says he has to save Harvey so he comes out of alignment with Batman, he jumps the gun to order the breach and the hostages almost get killed because of it. Joker knew Gordon's guilt for losing Harvey at the hospital as well as of course his guilt for not getting to Rachel in time would break him down, impair his judgment. Gordon totally forgets that Harvey pretty much threatened Gordon in the hospital when Gordan says he's sorry about Rachel and for not heeding his warning about bad cops in his unit and Harvey says "No you're not sorry...not yet".
What i love about the joker's character is that he is just an ordinary man with clown face and yet he is the most terrifying vilian in DC comics.
Never thought of that
he is not an ordinary man, he has 10" thick plot armor. but i get your point, and i partially agree
@@bloodspittingspartan5002 what gave you that idea? he actually gets hurt, even WITH real armor. joker is standing right next to the explosion, that destroys
the station... not a scratch.
@@bloodspittingspartan5002 oh yea, and the cop he "easily tackled", was a 20 year veteran. and he tackled him from a sitting position. this is belt armor levels of protection.
@@bloodspittingspartan5002 1: the explosion incapacitated all the cops, even those , who were much further away and in other rooms. despite him being one of the closest, not a scratch...
2: strength and skill is fine, but WE HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM TRAINING!!
IN FACT, TRAINING AND AND PLANNING IS AGAINST HIS OWN PHILOSOPHY!!
dodging and striking is fine, but from a sitting position against a VETERAN OPPONENT, WHO HATES YOU???
this plot armor is thicker than the belt armor on a battleship.
but, when all is said and done: this movie is on my top 3 list. heath ledgers performance is really making this
character so alive, that its scary.
ironically, it cost him his own life...
You can also see the whites above Batman's eyes when he looks down at the Joker. This is a sign of rage.
Lol
Being Batman is a sign of rage
or a sign that he has eyes
"Joker shoots a bunch of micro expressions showing he's enjoying seeing batman crack"
Joker: Laughing maniacally
Every time I see this scene, I'm just baffled at how well made it is. Acting, writing, thematically, the score. It's all just art.
Another detail, when The Joker gets hurt he always does that hard "stretch"
He did it in this scene and when he fell out of the truck that flipped over.
enigma is clearly the twin brother of the riddler, because he's completely the opposite, he says pure facts, maybe, the answerer?
and melvin is brother of the joker
The Drifter who is melvin ?
The Fact Maker.
Heath Ledger was letting him punch him for real. He said it was so he could get a genuine reaction. Talk about dedication to the craft.
Heath isolated himself for days and binged in scary shit before he played the Joker. Literally, he deliberately did harm to his psyche to the point where he gave himself issues. Nobody thought he was going to be a good Joker.
@@williamcompitello2302 and apparently Heath forced himself to not talk for the whole time as well
@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer I think it was also said that Heath scared other people at the set such as the actor for Rachel during the party scene
@@deadshotya0974 Michael Caine too. That party scene was the first time Michael saw Heath in full makeup and character and it terrified him so bad that he nearly had a full panic attack.
Such an underrated channel, you deserve way more recognition
Thank you!
@@enigmabodylanguage if you're taking suggestions, the scene where Joker talks to Dent in the hospital after he's burned would be really cool to see analysed :)
Brilliant idea!
@Blue Daddy he has 1.5k views but only 193 likes he is very under rated
@Blue Daddy oh
This will always be one of my favourite scenes of all time, never during this scene do I think it’s acted
Agreed!
Joker scene when he shoots Murray is better in my opinion
@@aaronjames3228 my favorite was the subway scene
@@aaronjames3228 That is another good joker scene! Joaquin and Heath are definitely my personal favorites
@@aaronjames3228 this scene is way better in so many ways
"He's hyperventilating which shows he's getting emotional"
No shit, he just threw a man into glass ans relatively punched him the face.
WHERE ARE THEY *Punch* "Now batman seems to be getting just a little bit angry at the joker at this point in the scene"
There's a difference between someone brutally beating someone else because it's an intimidation tactic vs. doing it because you've lost control. Batman's MO is the Jack Bauer Method, so the distinction is important.
Well remember that punching people in the face and throwing them into glass is pretty much Batman's day job
Also that was a real punch, Heath asked Bat before to hit him hard.
Bro there are people capable of doing the same thing and staying cold. The details are important to know that he is in fact emotional about it.
This shows what a genius Christopher Nolan is....more than a Decade and his movies are analysed still.... What a performance by Heath Ledger hats off 👌👌
6:09 I like how he laughs before Batman even landed the punch. He truly likes playing with Batman.
This is one of the greatest scenes in all of cinema, and the fact that it can be analysed in this way backs that up
"Batman throws Joker over the table before repeatedly punching him in the face. This is a sign that Batman is angry and wants Joker to answer his question."
But joker can't make out what batman is saying.
No way😆
Thank you I was so confused on what was going on
“I don’t wanna kill you~!” *cute anime head tilt* “UwU”
🤣🤣laughed for ,10 minutes from this comment
Cringe
cringe
No.
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The upshot...
This is one of the greatest scenes in cinema history!
"When the lights are turned on Batman is there. Which shows he wants to be in the room."
It's so easy to forget how young Heath was in this role until you see his bare hands. RIP
Without Heath he wouldn’t have been able to inspire others to do his work, while at the same time showing you must be very careful in a role. We deserve him, he’s one of the greatest actors
One of the most powerful interactions I have seen in film. Intense is a mild word to describe it.
One of my favorite lines is the "depending on the time he could be in one place...or many places."
Which on the face implies that they're moving him from place to place as a prisoner.
But it also foreshadows the explosion just ahead where Dent and Rachel are put in jeopardy and Rachel is then killed.
But then it ALSO foreshadows Two-Face, a man of two faces--or two places at once.
And on top of THAT, the allusion just under that layer to the MENTAL fracturing of Harvey into Two-Face.
It's just a really simple, really effective line that both concisely narrows the stakes from beginning of movie to that point and then perfectly encapsulates the "plan" (or present tense ultra-manipulation if not, which would be difficult to believe but not impossible-- I err on the side of Joker has the barebones of the full idea but the details are figured out closer in the moment, i digress) he enacts from that point forward. It is both the smoke of the first half as well as the fuse igniting the bomb to come.
It’s also an extremely graphic way to tell Gordon “you’re up against a clock you can’t see and unless you save him, Harvey is going to be blown to pieces.” At that point Gordon has to retreat but from that point on his emotional state is altered and his judgment is impaired because he does feel responsible for Harvey’s predicament. This plays out in the end at the skyscraper when he doesn’t wait as long as Batman advises him to before breaching - he jumps the gun and almost gets the hostages killed. He says “I’ve got to save Harvey”. Joker has him thinking of Harvey as victim when actually by that time he’s become the perp and Gordon literally forgets that when he goes to the hospital to see Harvey he makes a threat that Gordon is not as sorry as he’s going to be. He doesn’t see it coming when Harvey kidnaps his family .
As a professional actor I appreciate these videos because lay people generally have no idea how layered and complex the work of actors, directors, and filmmakers really are.
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Not an attempt at discrediting you or any other body language experts, but what I feel is so superb about this entire scene, is that it’s so well done, that anyone, regardless of whether or not they’re fans of the series in general, can watch it, and FEEL like they are actually witnessing an exchange that feels raw, emotional, and genuine. That alone is a rare testament to the extraordinary performance of these three separate, actors, and is INCREDIBLY rare in modern filmography. I wish Heath had at least lived long enough to appreciate the utmost adoration that his portrayal of the Joker received, but in a way, I think he knew his performance was gold. Even the most modest individual knows when they’ve done something astounding, and given the dedicated performance we witnessed in this film, it’s impossible to believe that he was unsure of his incredible portrayal, and how it totally blew everything preceding it out of the water.
Absolutely 100% agree and well said.
Heath will always be the greatest joker RIP 🙏🏽💯
*YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE, THAT EVERYONE WAS AT JOKERS MERCY, HE BROUGHT EVERYONE INTO HIS GAME FORCEFULLY HAVING NO CHOICE! AS HE LAUGHED, & DESTROYED THEIR LIVES WHILE THEY HAD NOTHING TO HURT HIM WITH.*
Great analysis, Enigma. This is my favorite scene from The Dark Knight.
Nice I just rewatched this film yesterday after I watched the video you did on joker
This movie is amazing, from the dialogue to the action sequences, they all fit together seamlessly. One of my all time favorite films.
I'd like to see body Language reactions to Michael Myers in Halloween(78) and Halloween(18)
That’s Actually a really good suggestion!
The part that always gets me is when Joker watches batmans incoming punch with a smile, and a laugh
*Video pauses*
"in this seen batman is wearing a bat mask, so you know hes batman"
Looking at Batman's body language his movements are all fluid and controlled, no shuffling of his feet or awkward shifting of positions. When he's at the table he's completely still and maintains eye contact, a tactic which normally would work on small time goons but not the Joker. It's interesting that he sits down at all with him, he was probably trying to appeal to the Joker and get him to lower his defenses. Really shows how he's unsure of just how to deal with the Joker, but later falls for the bait and attacks him.
Ledger was such an incredible actor, so is Oldman and Bale
Enigma, how about the mission briefing scene in Apocalypse Now?
Every time I see clips of Ledger's Joker I'm reminded of how great his performance was! This was such a good movie! Great video!
You can also she in the Joker's face as he says that he's not a monster, that calm sincerity, like he's telling the truth, or at least what he thinks the truth, proving how far he's gone into madness to the point where he thinks that he's doing Gotham a favour, not being a psychopathic lunatic. This is also further shown he believes this when he visits the mob members and one of them says that he's crazy and he replies in a serious and sort of hurt voice, "I'm not. No, I'm not", showing that he took that personally and is stating that he doesn't think that of himself at all. Really nice touch of Heath Ledger there.
Damn you good 10/10
"Well, depending on the time, he may be in one place, or several..."
Such an underappreciated line.
And the facial expression that goes with it. Factual. No homicidal glee. Just straightly (brilliantly) delivered…but the way he drops his head but maintains eye contact feels like he’s saying with his facial expression something like “if you get my meaning”…😂😂😂
I can’t wait for Body Language Analyst reacts to Body Language Analyst talking
6:09 when he laughs after saying his line and gets punched it's like what he said was the setup to a joke, and batman immediately punching him is the punchline, because of how joker looks really closely at batmans fist while still laughing, like it's the punch he's laughing at itself.
This is especially true because he knows that as long as he keeps batman there beating him up the closer he is to winning the actual "game" they're playing, and he says just as much literally 30 seconds after laughing at batman's punch. And all the joker has to do is take a beating (he's a god at doing this) and not give any real information.
“The way his body moves when Batman appears shows he hit his head”
What I love most about Ledger's performance is how much it's been influenced by Tom Waites - watch interviews with Waites and you'll see exactly why he's so inspiring.
God, I would LOVE to see an analysis of the famous interview
such a great scene! damn why do we lose the best so young :(
I love how brutal this scene is. You can actually see how chipped the walls are from previous takes.
I hope he knows how iconic he has become even though he is deceased.
I noticed the Joker never raised his hands up in self defense from Batman's punches.
something I'm surprised you didn't touch on was Gordon's nostrils flaring, I would think that would mean something like him trying to control his anger or something similar.
I was looking for a nostril flare comment, thanks! Also the gulping that accompanied it.
Harvey dent also does this right after he flips the coin and he doesn't get to kill the joker. Probably the same reason
Yeah heaths portrayal of the joker is historical and legendary love it so much everything about him as the joker wardrobe, voice everything perfection
Everytime joker says “and tonight your gonna have to break your one rule” I just think they could’ve made the script to make joker say “and tonight your gonna have to break yours.”
I think the point of the wording is to stress and drive home the fact that batman only has ONE rule and that HE (the Joker) is in complete control and is going to force batman to play HIS game AND break that ONE rule all in one master stroke... and he is going to enjoy watching batman do it.
The "You, complete, me!" Line was the moment it went from a fantastic portrayal of the Joker, to the quintessential Joker, for me.
He forgot the oldest trick in the book joker looked away when he told where Dent and Rachel are so he did flip the addresses when Batman went after her and got Dent instead 😂
Everyone in that movie deserves an Oscar INCLUDING the background character
I literally watched that movie yesterday, what!
Same
Taunting. The whole thing was about taunting Batman. Joker was plucking strings he knew would make vibrate the entire time. Nothing Bruce could do in that room at that time would change things. It was already well set up and this interaction was part of it. Batman's interrogation was key to it. If Batman had not slammed Joker against the mirror, giving him access to a weapon, he'd never have gotten a phone and escape.
This was all planned for and prepped.
Wow this is awsome can you do more joker scenes please
The laughing after getting blasted like that....fkn goat....watch his eyes before he gets punched...since he really was getting punched he had to keep track of the punch so it didn't knock him out
lovin this m8
Thanks!
It's even more subtle than that when he uses microexpressions... When he says the first address his eyes look slightly up and to his left. This indicates something between a visual and auditory fabrication... in other words, this is the point where he uses the fabrication and sends those listening to the wrong addresses. When he gives the second address he looks directly to the right, indicating an auditory memory rather than a fabrication, indicating that he needed to remember (also indicated by the slight pause) the second address. He also looks directly at Batman as he finishes the address to reinforce what he is saying as a truth. Fascinating stuff!
Great channel by the way! Newly subscribed.
Ironically the eye movements are somewhat unreliable, but he does act as what is commonly assumed the default movements are. He really was an excellent actor....
Yeah, this and the first "Interrogation" of Hannibal Lecter by Clarice Starling. It's not just the situation, and the role reversal. The prisoner getting more out of the interrogator, but how it's filmed. How it's performed, and how it makes you feel. Hannibal Lecter actually gains trust from his interrogator, when it's Hannibal Lecter. You know what he is, you know what he does, and yet you can't help but trust him, because of the way he Forces intimacy in that scene. The joker in this scene, especially when it switches from Gordon to Batman. He starts off giving him tips on how to beat him. Ends up with you have nothing to threaten me with, but it's bookended by that. Batman lost it, because he's used to being feared. Used to being in control, used to having everything he needs in his Utility Belt when he leaves the Batcave. Joker gets under his skin, because he's not prepared for this. He can't prepare for this, because all of his techniques, and tactics work towards the prisoner's goals. That was the plan: Make Batman feel helpless, again. His nightmare now that he's taken the Bat, and turned it against Gotham is not knowing what to do, and now he's locked in a room with not knowing what to do.
also... not only is he locked in that room not knowing what to do... there are WITNESSES to what he DOES or MAY do.
This scene is so incredibly acted that it just feels so real, raw and feels like real joker and batman scene
Do more or else I will be sad :(
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Heath totally owned that character, sure miss him, wondered what he would do next..... a shame.
“Depending on the time he might be in one spot or several” I just got that he was talking about being blown into pieces...
Shiiit you're right
Gosh how did i never notice that
Yoooo that’s crazy
Notice Joker looks Batman straight in the eye when saying “I’ll tell you where they both are,” being sincere. But looks away as he’s giving the addresses, lying about which one is where, and then returns his gaze to Batman’s eyes.
My guess is Joker is doing this knowingly to test Batman, but he’s so riled up he instantly believes what Joker says.
Can you please do Batman and Jared Leto Joker from the end of the Snyder cut? There’s some good stuff going on there.
The guy is bashing his freaking down but there's no drop of blood. Very realistic chris nolan as always
Very true!
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Notice the Joker winks at Batman to indicate he's lying when he gives the addresses. Brilliant!
Finally, now I can understand how unafraid Joker is of Batman besides him saying it outright
Im not joking, even without dialogue you can understand it
Heath Ledger did an absolutely amazing job in that film. It's by far my favourite superhero movie.
Can you do the scene from Batman v Superman where Lex meets Superman on the rooftop? Everyone says they don't like Jesse Eisenberg's interpretation of Lex but I kinda like it in that scene.
Joker knew somebody was behind him , he looks left and right fast to see which way the person would come from. He close's his eyes before batman smashed his head into the table. I guess he did this same thing once and know's interrogation stategie's as he refurs too aswell. Don't start with the head it makes the 'victim' all fuzy.
Staying on Interrogation Scenes, He should Decrypt The Jerome Valeska Interrogation Scene In Gotham
"Batman is breathing, this indicates that he is breathing."
One more thing, when Joker asked Commissioner Gordon the time, he didn't tell him. He proceeded to uncuff Joker and in that specific moment Joker saw the time on Gordon's watch.
Years later & this scene still shines.. classic
Ever since I made the recommendation to review part of "Apocalypse Now", I have had "There Will Be Blood" on my mind.
I believe it is a great (and hidden) love story, but from whom and to whom is the love being directed is the question...
I would absolutely give anything to see what you thought about any of the scenes in that movie!
I couldn’t imagine a theme any less appropriate to describe that film than “a love story.”
Its not a love story. You’d have to be insane to interpret that
little details like this really make movies great and it's sad how movies now are forgetting the small details like this that really make the characters feel real in movies
I think batman hits the joker after he mentions fragile Morals, because batman believes in the best of people.
For someone to be on the level of realism and earned skills that Batman is... requires being a Realist. A Realist does not see the Glass as being "Half full", nor "half empty" ... but instead, see it as both.
If he was actually upset with the mention of weak morals, then its more likely to do with his own inner weaknesses. Remember, that Batman blocked off the door, and started using physical violence. This shows that he himself could not maintain his own level of morals, values, and self control.
That said... Id guess it was more to do with just being severely upset that peoples lives were on the line, due to the manipulations of a crazed psychopath.
It doesnt matter to Batman that people are capable of doing bad things (and do bad things) ...as Batman is not that much of an extremist. He typically only goes after the extremist criminal element. Not the kid whom steals a toy from a toy-store, nor even dealing with a simple drug addict... that is not robbing nor threatening others.
The Joker, however... is a radical, that is almost trying to justify his own psychopathic narcissism. He paints everyone in either Black or White... with no range in between. He almost wants to prove, that his ways of seeing and dealing with the world, is the best way. He wants to revel in others failing... being discovered as hypocrites.. that will act in the worst of ways... every single time, when challenged.
But all of that said... The fact is... that the Jokers many excuses and justification are not really needed. They are more a tool of Psychological Manipulation games. He really does not have to have a reason, excuse, etc... as he merely enjoys doing what he does. He gets off on harming others... most especially with psychological abuse games (Pushing others emotional buttons. Tying to "Crack" them, as if their mind and soul, was a puzzle / game). The verbal games he uses, are more for the Theatrics, Emotional responses from others, and to throw people off, via manipulations.
If I recall correctly... he had told a story about how he got his wide "Smile". However, each time he told the story... it was different. This shows that his stories were merely mind games, rather than the actual truth. As said.. the Psychopath needs no rhyme nor reason. They are born without a conscience, morals, values..etc. They feel no empathy for others pain, and suffering... and they get off on the thrill and challenges, of doing some of the darkest of deeds.
@@johndough8115 thanks for your input! I appreciate it!
the fact that gordan and joker are so in to the character and worked so hard there body automatically thinks there really this person
Why don't you try to analyse the Punishers court scene in DareDevil season 2
5:31 when the joker quoted “if you want to save one of them”. His eyebrows raised twice. As he is toying with him. As he is enjoying to see Batman lose control.
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"We stopped looking for the monsters under our bed after we realized..were that monster"-Joker
Did you know, that the jokers fake scars for the makeup kept curling up, so the actor would lick his lips to uncurl the scars, but over time licking his lips just became part of his character?
The sounds batmans fists make when he punches jokers is brutal
It's cause they're real punches
this movie is legendary. so happy to see all these videos on it
Love that you analyzed this scene. Such a powerful and amazing scene. Still hard to understand how Heath pulled this off so convincingly.