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No one ever pick up on the fact that after he kills Murray , his laughter is subdued and genuine. It’s the only time he’s actually laughing and not in pain.
Jdjdhd can't believe i finally found someone who says this. Its one of the most important details i believe and Joaquin did and AMAZING job showing the difference without overdoing it.
Yeah the writing of this film was stellar, but it relied for 90% of the protagonist's ability to sell his role, and Joaquin knocked it out of the park.
@@ArkyBarky141 Heath was good because he died then. Using creepy makeup and talking like a smoker is not good enough. His performance is very overrated.
@@elvius8059 people are entitled to their opinions and I said nothing bad about Joaquin Infact his movie is better than heaths. But at this point its like comparing apples to oranges heath ledgers movie are about batman while Joaquin as the title suggest is about the joker. I personally don't think Joaquin would be a good joker in a action sense thus why I said heath is best overall I never said that he was the absolute without a doubt the best but he fits all roles he needed to fill that I dont think could be matched
@Zohare Irfan I have no clue what you're trying to say since joker is a character and the name of the movie we have to make it clear what we are speaking of such as Joker and "Joker"
This movie doesnt make u understand The Joker at all. This is not what the Joker is like in mainstream comic book media. This movie is just an original origin story that only adapted small parts of The Jokers actual origin (the failed comedian part). This movie is the WORST portrayal of the Joker character
I think he isn't laughing at 08:33 because of being proud of killing Murray. He is laughing because this joke comes in his mind and it is realy funny. Im not joking btw.
8:19 Nobody ever talks about the tears in Joker's eyes, which show that all he ever desired was to be loved and liked by many people, including you Murray. But that time has passed, and he quickly returns to laughing, as if his tears were the last remnants of his older self's descent into insanity.
And then the only people that he perceives to love him are the people rioting and wearing clown masks in his name. He see it as someone is on his side for once
8:00 is the one that always gets me. You can literally see him holding back tears. Many of us do that when they stretch their neck and try to gulp past that lump stuck in your throat when you're on the verge of releasing the tears. What little humanity he had left he suppressed and gave way to the Joker.
"Notice the way in which Murray leans back in his chair after he's been shot in the head, this is what's called a distancing behaviour... By leaning back and then dying in his chair, the audience can clearly see that Murray is now dead."
I don't think the actors are as aware of what they do as the dude from this youtube channel, the actors are just reacting in a situation as "themselves" (as in their character). So the things they do are natural, because their characters are. Bad acting is often bad because the actors are acting, and are very much aware of what they do. The best actors (imo) are those who can identify with their character and can be that person for these beautiful moments...
@@harry3balls I love this about acting. If you're doing it right, decisions become instinct. You react out of feeling rather than consciously. The fact that the expert in this video is able to distinguish the character's aims based off the actors body language just as he would an actual person shows such great mastery of their craft!
@@GKPB thank you so much lmao the world needs more people like you cause everyone around me just *stares* while I sweat and shake until I finally just apologize for existing in their lives lol
It also appears to me that when Murray says "there's a lot of self-pity", his voice, expression and words show that he reacts with nothing but contempt to Arthur's anger, which angers him even more. I think that's the moment where Murray signed his own death warrant.
yeah it seems very real, people who lash out are often met with contempt, this reinforces his resolve and the fact that nothing will change even if you try to explain your point of view, no one was ever going to listen. It just makes things worse.
I love how he delivers the words “What you get” when he says “Ill tell you what you get”. How his voice breaks, almost like he’s about to become hysterical. That always stuck out to me.
I like the small detail the moment after he shoots Murray where he jumps back and slightly braces himself against the chair, showing despite his feelings he's still shocked by what he just did
The same expression a kid gets when he finally takes off his first bandaid and the fear of what was underneath finally dissipates into acknowledgement, understanding and then relief.
Indeed. For a Hollywood film, it was so realistic and actually intelligent. One of those films you don't watch for pleasure. You watch it because it makes you think. Not always in a pleasant way.
Like when you done something and you just waiting to see what happens next cause you surprised that you went through with it. And when he shoots the second time, after that he holds it like he wants to shoot again cause he still in shock and just puts it down and starts dancing. Cause at that moment what else is there to do.
I think Joaquin is my favourite Joker. He just feels the most real. A man pushed to his limits, resentful of the rich, the powerful, the system. Driven to madness through years of people telling him he’s nothing. Then one day, snap. That’s happened to a lot of people.
@Frédéric Otis I feel like chronological it makes sense. I mean think about it. Joker was just becoming who he was and didn’t exactly give in to his sadistic desires yet and then in the Dark Knight, he’s absolutely unhinged, doing all types of terrible things and loving as well as savoring every moment as well as not being so gullible at the same time and being a strategic mastermind because he’s familiar with the tricks he pulls and the crimes he makes
Not many movies genuinely terrify me but this one, this scene, and Phoenix's acting throughout are so eerily real. The jokers not just a villain folks. The "society abandoning him" bit isn't just a bit, what gets me the most is that every medical professional I've talked to about it agrees (and there's a few) that this movie is 100% what happens in real life and, as shown in this video, is incredibly well portrayed.
I've heard that Joaquin Phoenix wasn't exactly acting when he said "if it was me dying on the side walk you'd walk right over me". Considering how his brother River died on a sidewalk outside a club, it could be less fiction than reality behind that delivery. Also I love how well he delivers his voice cracks when he's quite emotional.
Notice how i clicked on this video, indicating i had an interest in it. I then proceeded to the comment section, which could imply i want to see what other people think.
Realize how I replied to this comment, meaning I admired the thought that went in this, at the point of where I liked this remarkable observation and took delight of trying to swot the making of this sub-comment.
Notice how similar I am to the joker when I share a joke that I stole because I do not care if people like me or not. Because my life is also a comedy... “Notice the stillness in Murray after he gets shot, this implies that he is dead.” Did you notice what I stole? I am a Sociopath.
Notice how i react to both your comments. Leaving a like because i find them amusing. A possible indication that you are funny. Not because your llife is a comedy, but because you really did make me laugh by doing something both obvious and unexpected. The paradox of life
I think the original cut was like that before it was edited to make it looks like he hesitated to shoot for the third time and just drops the gun Amazing touch by the editor
@@mrhatty2644 Well I don't know what the comment says until i read it....... obviously. I dont have some magical power that allows me to know ahead of time what a comment will be about in order to avoid reading them. Lol think about it.
his acting was phenomenal im sure he endured so much mental strain while practicing this character i admire the Joaquin so very much he did not disappoint as being one of the jokers.
@ eat it edith Absolutely. I was blown away by the intensity and realism he put into the Joker character. Not many can be on the level of Deneros acting, but he did.
you could just feel the betrayal building that whole scene. Murry had been an idol to Arthur, and he planned to give him a show he would never forget. Then Murry turned on him, and it was the final straw in a string of bad events
my favourite thing of the entire movie is the ending of this scene. when he steps into the darkness towards the camera. the blue light mixes into his attires color. his red jacket turns purple, his yellow shirt turns green, the colors of the joker, completing his transformation. that is such a level 99 bigbrain detail, its mindblowing.
@@ahmadmujtabawazir4814 It's a thing that definitely is or should be talked about when something has to do with ACTING. Not everything should just be words coming out of the mouth and slight face expressions that fit the mood. Also, things like these aren't rocket science. It's simple body language. The body language is one of the reasons why this scene is so incredible, at least to me.
@@InfinityShrad no its isnt incredible its just a dumbass asuming things like "ehhh he put his foot to the side of the man that means...that means that he is gay" like shut the fuck up nobody looks at these things when they are making a 2 hour movie no hate to anyone keep enjoying what you enjoy im just giving my opinion
Joker movie is one of the best psychological movies I’ve seen that shows so beautifully on why some things happen, along with mental illness. It’s so beautifully detailed also! Everything is just so accurate and truthful. Even the death of Murray, it’s so realistic. Even more so then actual action movies
I think all of this is why this scene was so goddamn unnerving the first time most of us watched it...the little body queues and the absolute immersion into such a tense scene make you forget for just those few moments that it was a movie and not you actually watching a talk show host get murdered.
- "Notice how he breath's in through his nose, really filling his lungs with fresh oxygen, this is a sign that he can breath well, and intends on making a chicken sandwich later for lunch."
One of the best parts about this scene is when Murray shuts him down after the joker snaps and goes off about Thomas Wayne. You can literally feel the embarrassment and anger in his face. I could actually feel that knot in my throat, that you get when you are filled with anger and emotion. Like he was trying no to break down in front of everyone. He's an amazing actor.
I like how he just abandons his gun. He kind of takes it with him out of instinct, but then decides "nah, mission accomplished." and just tosses it on the desk.
@@enigmabodylanguage I agree. The opening scene of Inglorious Bastards please. There are other scenes in that movie that would be good to. Like the basement bar scene with the blond German girl and the German officer who injects himself into it. Tri Glasses. Germans use their thumb when they hold up a number on their hand.
@@kennandunn7533 Well, when he was practicing his suicide earlier he kinda tossed the gun around cause he didn't quite know what to do it, like he would even have control after blowing his head off, lol.
@@omarzahr2414 You could say the same for Mike 'Yeah, I like it' Ehrmentraut. He had his fun bossing Walt around. Didn't do shit to dissuade Gus from threatening his family and actively seeking to replace him to leave him dead in the desert either. This wasn't black and white. Mike wasn't the good guy. He was just another asshole who pushed too far and got shot.
I’ve seen quite a lot people get shot in their heads (on videos not real life) and tbh there weren’t a lot where there was blood coming out of their nose. So this scene is accurate and really great!
@@wiebstar looks like Murray got shot above the eye, the sinus. Blood pours though the sinus down into the the nasal cavity and out the nose. Blood could’ve also went down his throat as well.
Yeah, if you ever saw the Bud Dwyer televised suicide clip (not recommended), with the amount that poured out of his nose, you'd think the dude was plum full of blood.
"I killed these guys because they were AWFUL" "You're awful, Murray" He literally told him he's gonna kill him. Also couldn't he just say that he killed in self defense?
Yeah, I think he was just done explaining himself at this point in his progression. He just stuck with explaining the heart of what they were, which is awful. He was really done trying to win people's approval and came to a point of full acceptance and pride in his actions.
I love the thumbnail like hmm yes the furious expression on his face and the gun he is pointing at Murray each serve as indicators that he may be experiencing some anger or even perhaps hatred
Man you completely left out how he didnt even know what to do at the end. Holding back the third shot, pacing away without intent and trying to cover it up by the dance... He just nailed that role
@@piotrkowalski3869 I think there's a difference between acting and *BECOMING* a character. Jack Nicholson was ACTING as the Joker. But this FELT like the Joker. I don't know if I'm describing it well enough or not, but, as an actor (only in high school, sure, but still), there can come a moment when you prepare so much about the character, and spend so much time and effort thinking about it, that you go from acting as a character to BEING that person, and that's what this felt like, to me, at least.
I realised that no matter how well written the script was, without a great actor/actress to get into and become the character they play, we wouldn’t have these masterpieces that invokes our emotions like we were there.
As someone who has bipolar I can vouch that in this movie, Joaquin expresses and captures the soul crushing loneliness and isolation of depression better and more accurately than I have ever seen it done. It was riveting TBH.
Yes that was an extremely good piece of acting from Joaquin throughout the entire movie. I felt for the character and actually applauded his final action.
I went into this movie not expecting much (I mean its DC after all). The grim appearance and misery was hard to bear but once I started to understand I couldn't get enough. This is the pinnacle Joker. Perfect acting from everyone in the movie and I can't stop singing the movies praises. Perfect Joker and the most deserved Oscar for a LOOONNNNGGGG time.
That is the only thing I didn't like, just a little too much but at the same time, Arthur was a bit effeminate too and as the joker if his voice suddenly changed to this domineering masculine voice it would have been too cartoonish
@@inuchan74 It's like in his mind, being free of father-figures completely freed him. It was a brilliant choice on Juaquin's part to play it that way, I think.
I've always thought that this was an incredible scene. I never thought about the body language involved. It really makes it more interesting now that you've pointed out the significance of the actions that I subconsciously understood but didn't realize. Thank you. Very interesting.
Awesome breakdown of the scene, I also thought - right at the end - 9:23 when he does that little dance - is his full transition into madness or the choice to live outside society. He has decided "if you are not going to notice me, I am going to MAKE you notice me" - great video and awesome movie!
The way you describe how each of their actions play out with their emotions and feelings makes it feel like you're reading out a storybook. Great stuff.
this scene was so so powerful, over the years i have done my work in learning to the best of my ability’s body language analytics and this was such a great scene, there is just so much raw material to digest here also i was shocked at how rather “realistic” this death was too like i was genuinely surprised at how like his body reacted to the first shot.
This scene kind of really shows he is going down that road to becoming this guy who no longer seeks approval, but just seeks to make others see what he sees. That guy who no longer tries to make others understand him, but rather tries to force others to acknowledge that their world is a _literal joke_ - the Joker. This scene feels like a true starting gun to that transformation.
An interestig part of the story, for me, is when Arthur is at the cinema watching Chaplin. It's almost like an epiphany hits him. His desire to be a stand up might be because he believes it is a step up from being a clown. But Chaplin is considered a genius for his physical comedy. We see Arthur synchronise his movement with Chaplin's, after observing his lousy timing with stand up. I just thought it interesting in the context of body language.
I think what I love the most about this scene is how you can clearly see the constant switching between his personas. That switch happens faster as things progress untill he more or less stays the Joker.
I shat bricks throughout this scene in the theater. The awkwardness of Arthur's movements and words, the unprepared, clumsy speech, the rising anxiety not only of him but of just about everyone on-screen. There's something seriously raw and real about how this plays out, I get chills every single time.
It's amazing what context can do for a moment like someone being shot. In something like John Wick or many video games, there is constant death and destruction which comes across as fun and cool. Then there are scenes like this that make you shocked and almost feel sick. It's pretty amazing to be honest and really shows to me that it's context that is important, not that people are just desensitised to violence.
I've always been good at reading body language and picking up others' emotions. These videos are still so interesting and I learn more ways to interpret behavior. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with people, it's a useful social skill.
This is the start of a great channel with hundreds of thousands of subscribers in the future. This niche, although available, it's still scarce for the demand it has. You can fill it. Keep up the great content!
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Why’d they get demonetized? It’s rediculous that they’re doing that :(
Hey!
Because I feature films they automatically get copyrighted and I have to dispute it every time but risk getting a copyright strike 😤
No one ever pick up on the fact that after he kills Murray , his laughter is subdued and genuine. It’s the only time he’s actually laughing and not in pain.
Oh I did. The fact that he hit his leg made it apparent that it wasn't just a fit. He was genuinely laughing at what he did. And he was proud.
The very last scene in Arkham when he's laughing thinking about Bruce's dead parents is a genuine laugh.
@@xJayhawkFANx that too, yeah
Jdjdhd can't believe i finally found someone who says this. Its one of the most important details i believe and Joaquin did and AMAZING job showing the difference without overdoing it.
great catch!!, omg, you're totally right! also, damn, joaquin nailed it
He didn’t kill Murray, he just made him a little more open minded. Literally
That the best dark humor i've seen today.
my wife said " im done with you"
ba dum tssss
@@twiggytron life ain't fair
lmao
“Notice the stillness in Murray after he gets shot, this implies that he is dead.”
Wow the directors put so much detail
Bro I never noticed that mr Phoenix back at it again
Lmao
"And the pointing of the gun at Murray after he is already dead, this here implies that he wishes to shoot him again"
🤯
Joker holds up a gun. This symbolizes the fact he has a gun.
he shoots murray. this symbolizes that there were bullets in his gun
@@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202
He kills Murray. This symbolizes that he shot him in the head.
@@yellowmello1223 The Joker laughs. This symbolizes that he laughed.
🤣🤣 damn guys I didn't realize that
@@yellowmello1223 A red hole appears on Murray's head. That symbolizes that the bullet from Joker's gun entered his upper skull.
I’m just gonna say huge respect to the other guest guy who hugged the old lady instead of running away on his own after Murray got shot
@shane Gotta know when people are about to fight back
Fight, flight, freeze.
He froze here
@@MH-yc5pr He did, but he also stuck by the lady, who also froze. That's still something to commend!
My Dear Leader, what a surprise to see you here. Glory to the cult.
@@manuelh.4147 yeah, but someone did that intentionally so…
Joaquin is such a good fucking actor he elevated this whole film.
Yeah the writing of this film was stellar, but it relied for 90% of the protagonist's ability to sell his role, and Joaquin knocked it out of the park.
@Zohare Irfan nah heath was better OVERALL. But I will agree that Joaquin is a streat storytelling joker hit the nail perfectly
@@ArkyBarky141 Heath was good because he died then. Using creepy makeup and talking like a smoker is not good enough. His performance is very overrated.
@@elvius8059 people are entitled to their opinions and I said nothing bad about Joaquin Infact his movie is better than heaths. But at this point its like comparing apples to oranges heath ledgers movie are about batman while Joaquin as the title suggest is about the joker. I personally don't think Joaquin would be a good joker in a action sense thus why I said heath is best overall I never said that he was the absolute without a doubt the best but he fits all roles he needed to fill that I dont think could be matched
@Zohare Irfan I have no clue what you're trying to say since joker is a character and the name of the movie we have to make it clear what we are speaking of such as Joker and "Joker"
I feel like this movie made us all understand Joker didn’t want this until he absolutely lost it
Exactly! He decided at the last moment to kill Murray
@@maximasheplin8083 Just so we’re clear, this only applies to the one in this movie
Here's a poem i wrote about this topic: "when we are kids, we wanted to be super Heroes. When we are adults, we understand villains."
This movie doesnt make u understand The Joker at all. This is not what the Joker is like in mainstream comic book media. This movie is just an original origin story that only adapted small parts of The Jokers actual origin (the failed comedian part). This movie is the WORST portrayal of the Joker character
@@maximasheplin8083 it has? Huh, stranger...🤔
Dude that last joke really blew Murray’s mind
I totally haven’t gotten that one before
It blew my mind too.
I think he isn't laughing at 08:33 because of being proud of killing Murray. He is laughing because this joke comes in his mind and it is realy funny. Im not joking btw.
^*rim shot*^
or in this case ^*gun shot*^
Lmfao
8:19
Nobody ever talks about the tears in Joker's eyes, which show that all he ever desired was to be loved and liked by many people, including you Murray. But that time has passed, and he quickly returns to laughing, as if his tears were the last remnants of his older self's descent into insanity.
well said...you should write stories if you don't already
And then the only people that he perceives to love him are the people rioting and wearing clown masks in his name. He see it as someone is on his side for once
8:00 is the one that always gets me. You can literally see him holding back tears. Many of us do that when they stretch their neck and try to gulp past that lump stuck in your throat when you're on the verge of releasing the tears. What little humanity he had left he suppressed and gave way to the Joker.
i see it more as frustration, emotional one
Very well said, that is the part I seem to focus on the most. A very moving scene indeed. :)
"Notice the way in which Murray leans back in his chair after he's been shot in the head, this is what's called a distancing behaviour... By leaning back and then dying in his chair, the audience can clearly see that Murray is now dead."
😂
Also, he is now stress-free and convinced that he is no more.
🤣🤣🤣 distancing behavior
Distanced from living.
Do you all seriously think this joke is so funny why does everyone repeat it
I loved this scene, but i never realised how much detail went into the acting!
It’s amazing!
It's one of the most complex performances I've ever scene. Like Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood.
I don't think the actors are as aware of what they do as the dude from this youtube channel, the actors are just reacting in a situation as "themselves" (as in their character). So the things they do are natural, because their characters are. Bad acting is often bad because the actors are acting, and are very much aware of what they do.
The best actors (imo) are those who can identify with their character and can be that person for these beautiful moments...
@@harry3balls I love this about acting. If you're doing it right, decisions become instinct. You react out of feeling rather than consciously. The fact that the expert in this video is able to distinguish the character's aims based off the actors body language just as he would an actual person shows such great mastery of their craft!
If a movie has joaquin phoenix and or robert de Niro it's going to be good
I’m forever gonna be paranoid that someone in public is a a body language analyst and will stare at me and figure out just how anxious I am 24/7
don't worry about it, we already know.
@@gorkemaykut5230 awh sh*t man lol
Mood😔
Funny is that I can easily notice people who are anxious around me but I just ignore it to make the person feels better
@@GKPB thank you so much lmao the world needs more people like you cause everyone around me just *stares* while I sweat and shake until I finally just apologize for existing in their lives lol
I also love how after joker kills Murray, when he walks towards the camera, his red suit turns purple under the blue light, revealing the true joker.
Oh wow spot on observation! Had to go back and rewatch and sure enough you are right. Such an interesting and well conceived scene.
Spot on👏🏾
Amazing detail in this movie
i feel like it’s just a coincidence, they said this is a different universe
@@rtheawesomegm it would be easy to desmiss this, but after watching enough Stanley Kubrick..I would have to concede it's probably not a coincidence..
It also appears to me that when Murray says "there's a lot of self-pity", his voice, expression and words show that he reacts with nothing but contempt to Arthur's anger, which angers him even more. I think that's the moment where Murray signed his own death warrant.
yeah it seems very real, people who lash out are often met with contempt, this reinforces his resolve and the fact that nothing will change even if you try to explain your point of view, no one was ever going to listen. It just makes things worse.
I love how he delivers the words “What you get” when he says “Ill tell you what you get”. How his voice breaks, almost like he’s about to become hysterical. That always stuck out to me.
I like the small detail the moment after he shoots Murray where he jumps back and slightly braces himself against the chair, showing despite his feelings he's still shocked by what he just did
The same expression a kid gets when he finally takes off his first bandaid and the fear of what was underneath finally dissipates into acknowledgement, understanding and then relief.
It. Gets easier with time
Indeed. For a Hollywood film, it was so realistic and actually intelligent.
One of those films you don't watch for pleasure.
You watch it because it makes you think. Not always in a pleasant way.
Like when you done something and you just waiting to see what happens next cause you surprised that you went through with it. And when he shoots the second time, after that he holds it like he wants to shoot again cause he still in shock and just puts it down and starts dancing. Cause at that moment what else is there to do.
Then he shot him again to make sure, he's old self is truly dead.
I think Joaquin is my favourite Joker. He just feels the most real. A man pushed to his limits, resentful of the rich, the powerful, the system. Driven to madness through years of people telling him he’s nothing. Then one day, snap. That’s happened to a lot of people.
Yep. The film Falling Down is a good example.
@@Martin-88 I actually watched that for the first time recently! Good movie.
Heath Ledgers is more of an intelligent supervillain, Joaquin is a more realistic Joker. Both are still great!
@Frédéric Otis I feel like chronological it makes sense. I mean think about it. Joker was just becoming who he was and didn’t exactly give in to his sadistic desires yet and then in the Dark Knight, he’s absolutely unhinged, doing all types of terrible things and loving as well as savoring every moment as well as not being so gullible at the same time and being a strategic mastermind because he’s familiar with the tricks he pulls and the crimes he makes
@Jack Boomerang joaguin shows us the psychological side of the joker more than heath does
A little while ago I noticed that the laugh after he kills Murray is a genuine laugh unlike the rest where it’s forced out of him
It's his first genuine laugh of the whole movie
I can't call him a monster because I laughed at this scene too. I HATE that man.
@@reyganbriggs6785 same
Not many movies genuinely terrify me but this one, this scene, and Phoenix's acting throughout are so eerily real. The jokers not just a villain folks. The "society abandoning him" bit isn't just a bit, what gets me the most is that every medical professional I've talked to about it agrees (and there's a few) that this movie is 100% what happens in real life and, as shown in this video, is incredibly well portrayed.
I've heard that Joaquin Phoenix wasn't exactly acting when he said "if it was me dying on the side walk you'd walk right over me". Considering how his brother River died on a sidewalk outside a club, it could be less fiction than reality behind that delivery.
Also I love how well he delivers his voice cracks when he's quite emotional.
Holy shit...you're right. I'd forgotten about that. And that nightclub used his death to boost their reputation. And people came in DROVES.
cracked his voice over his knee like the doom slayer crack demon backs on his knee
@@Hellwaterva why in the worl did this make me laugh XD
@@alexam9774 cuz you found it funny
@@Hellwaterva i gotta hand it to you twas a good one
The fact that this is ten minutes shows that half of ten is 5
ah yes, the floor is floor
This man is beyond known science
Every 60 seconds a minute passes in Africa
I live in space with half a helmet
This really says a lot about our society
Notice how i clicked on this video, indicating i had an interest in it. I then proceeded to the comment section, which could imply i want to see what other people think.
Realize how I replied to this comment, meaning I admired the thought that went in this, at the point of where I liked this remarkable observation and took delight of trying to swot the making of this sub-comment.
Notice how similar I am to the joker when I share a joke that I stole because I do not care if people like me or not. Because my life is also a comedy...
“Notice the stillness in Murray after he gets shot, this implies that he is dead.”
Did you notice what I stole? I am a Sociopath.
Notice how i react to both your comments. Leaving a like because i find them amusing. A possible indication that you are funny. Not because your llife is a comedy, but because you really did make me laugh by doing something both obvious and unexpected. The paradox of life
Notice how i am dumb
sarcasm level = expert
That's kinda smooth how he's about to shoot again the third time, but he just drops the gun on the table
I think the original cut was like that before it was edited to make it looks like he hesitated to shoot for the third time and just drops the gun
Amazing touch by the editor
@@christian_swjy I agree, if you slow that part down he never actually hesitated. But the way it played out made it look like that.
Notice how Murray is dead, it implies that he’s not alive
This channel is criminally underrated
Thank you, that's very kind
😏I just found it last night. Good content
True
No
Truth!! So underrated. I'm glad I found him
What I love is that little chuckle, after killing Murray. It’s the first sincere laugh he has in the movie. He’s genuinely happy.
Ugh I've read this so many dozens of times on so many different videos about this movie. We get it already 🙄
@@mildhotpeppers then stop reading the damn comments, I myself didn't realize this small detail so I'm glad they commented that.
@@mrhatty2644 What hate comments?
@@mildhotpeppers it's not a hate comment, I'm just saying, if you are tired of reading these comments then why are you reading them?
@@mrhatty2644 Well I don't know what the comment says until i read it....... obviously. I dont have some magical power that allows me to know ahead of time what a comment will be about in order to avoid reading them. Lol think about it.
*Arthur staring at Murray hatefully*
Subtitles: “you’re awesome Murray”
"Me- I'm awesome? Oh yeah? How am I awesome?"
"Playing my video.. inviting me on the show. You just wanted to have fun with me."
@@Zakjuh what
@@Zakjuh you do know everything about me pal
@@satanthechamp everyone, and I'm telling you, everyone is awesome
Alternate ending where Murray and Arthur go have coffee after the show.
When he shot him a 2nd time and was going to keep shooting but used self restraint 😂😂😂
He was like " wait-, meh he had enough".
@Axl Dave lol, so he realized the joke wasn't as funny the second time?
More like only so many times you can beat a dead horse, or in this case, shoot a dead Murray, before it's no longer fun.
@@menghao737 a dead murraaaaaay
He got it out of his system
his acting was phenomenal im sure he endured so much mental strain while practicing this character i admire the Joaquin so very much he did not disappoint as being one of the jokers.
🤣🤣🤣
@@savvon420 how is this funny?
@ eat it edith Absolutely. I was blown away by the intensity and realism he put into the Joker character. Not many can be on the level of Deneros acting, but he did.
you could just feel the betrayal building that whole scene. Murry had been an idol to Arthur, and he planned to give him a show he would never forget. Then Murry turned on him, and it was the final straw in a string of bad events
I love the little dance he does when he walks of the stage
Off
Same
Reminded me of harley quinn
The amount of detail with Joaquin Phoenix's acting & body language is so good. It really captures how lost Arthur is
Wow, I can't believe how much I missed of that scene. Such great acting!!
It’s amazing!
my favourite thing of the entire movie is the ending of this scene. when he steps into the darkness towards the camera. the blue light mixes into his attires color. his red jacket turns purple, his yellow shirt turns green, the colors of the joker, completing his transformation. that is such a level 99 bigbrain detail, its mindblowing.
DUDE!!!! Ive seen this movie like 3 or 4 times but never caught that detail!! 8:52 full transformation!!!
"If you'll notice, Joker has a gun, this means he planned to shoot bullets"
This really opened my eyes to the micro expressions people give off and the slightest expression can mean so much
the actors and the producers never thought about these things
this guy is talking bullshit and overdetailing it
@@ahmadmujtabawazir4814 It's a thing that definitely is or should be talked about when something has to do with ACTING. Not everything should just be words coming out of the mouth and slight face expressions that fit the mood.
Also, things like these aren't rocket science. It's simple body language. The body language is one of the reasons why this scene is so incredible, at least to me.
@@InfinityShrad no its isnt incredible its just a dumbass asuming things like "ehhh he put his foot to the side of the man that means...that means that he is gay" like shut the fuck up nobody looks at these things when they are making a 2 hour movie
no hate to anyone keep enjoying what you enjoy im just giving my opinion
@@ahmadmujtabawazir4814 geez calm down and besides it is it means a lot to put expression in films and have such ones that fit a scene
@@ahmadmujtabawazir4814 wrong.
Joker movie is one of the best psychological movies I’ve seen that shows so beautifully on why some things happen, along with mental illness. It’s so beautifully detailed also! Everything is just so accurate and truthful. Even the death of Murray, it’s so realistic. Even more so then actual action movies
Infamous
I think all of this is why this scene was so goddamn unnerving the first time most of us watched it...the little body queues and the absolute immersion into such a tense scene make you forget for just those few moments that it was a movie and not you actually watching a talk show host get murdered.
I really like the little double take he does where he considers a 3rd shoot before dropping the gun
Then he starts doing a dance but stops. You can tell his mind was going a 100 miles per min.
that was so good ... how do they even script these things?
I was surprised Todd Phillips didn’t get an Oscar nod. It was a real experience in the theater.
Who
@@aaronjames3228 Todd Phillips
I so wish I'd seen this movie in the theatre, along with Gangs of New York, Natural Born Killers & Reservoir Dogs.
@@mackychloe me too I watched it a home and regretted it a lot
f..ck the oscars. they don't matter.
Me looking at the thumbnail: *"Huh a man with a gun in his hand with his eyebrows tilted looking mad, is this... HATE?!"*
What
Spoiler: it is.
I knew that scene was amazing but now It's even better
Murray: "Tell me a joke that'll blow my mind."
Joker: "Say no more."
- "Notice how he breath's in through his nose, really filling his lungs with fresh oxygen, this is a sign that he can breath well, and intends on making a chicken sandwich later for lunch."
Underrated comment.
Possible one of the best acted scene in film history.
That is a colossal overstatement.
My reaction to the awesome subway scene from Joker: ua-cam.com/video/ZEE77UWrXaQ/v-deo.html
Ok
Ok
"Joker is now doing the death stare. He is 100% sure he's winning the Oscar."
One of the best parts about this scene is when Murray shuts him down after the joker snaps and goes off about Thomas Wayne. You can literally feel the embarrassment and anger in his face. I could actually feel that knot in my throat, that you get when you are filled with anger and emotion. Like he was trying no to break down in front of everyone. He's an amazing actor.
I like how he just abandons his gun. He kind of takes it with him out of instinct, but then decides "nah, mission accomplished." and just tosses it on the desk.
It's because he never actually planned on what to do with the gun after he used it
He was even thinking about shooting a third timr
Could you do a body language analysis of the opening scene of inglorious bastards? That would be very spicy.
Sure at some point 😁
@@enigmabodylanguage I agree. The opening scene of Inglorious Bastards please. There are other scenes in that movie that would be good to. Like the basement bar scene with the blond German girl and the German officer who injects himself into it. Tri Glasses. Germans use their thumb when they hold up a number on their hand.
@@enigmabodylanguage or possibly the scene in training day before they shoot the old man toward the end, great scene
he posted it!
I've always liked how Joker never really knew what he was gonna do with the gun afterwards.
"Alright that's, sure it work"
I mean he didn't go in expecting to have to worry about it.
@@kennandunn7533 Well, when he was practicing his suicide earlier he kinda tossed the gun around cause he didn't quite know what to do it, like he would even have control after blowing his head off, lol.
please do “walter kills mike” from breaking bad, the body language of walt is insane
oh yeah
damaged ego, wants to feel superior
@@omarzahr2414 You could say the same for Mike 'Yeah, I like it' Ehrmentraut. He had his fun bossing Walt around. Didn't do shit to dissuade Gus from threatening his family and actively seeking to replace him to leave him dead in the desert either. This wasn't black and white. Mike wasn't the good guy. He was just another asshole who pushed too far and got shot.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I recommend you to watch Better Call Saul, so you can understand better Mike's actions and reactions
@@gabrielmoravargas4728 I have. All caught up.
The only missing detail from this scene is the blood pouring out of Murray’s nose. It typically happens when someone gets shot or stabbed in the head.
I’ve seen quite a lot people get shot in their heads (on videos not real life) and tbh there weren’t a lot where there was blood coming out of their nose. So this scene is accurate and really great!
@@wiebstar looks like Murray got shot above the eye, the sinus. Blood pours though the sinus down into the the nasal cavity and out the nose. Blood could’ve also went down his throat as well.
@@lotlum4343 thanks for the clarification. Either way looks pretty real too me and the whole scene itself is a masterpiece!
@@wiebstar yeah, this whole movie is a masterpiece!
Yeah, if you ever saw the Bud Dwyer televised suicide clip (not recommended), with the amount that poured out of his nose, you'd think the dude was plum full of blood.
"I killed these guys because they were AWFUL"
"You're awful, Murray"
He literally told him he's gonna kill him.
Also couldn't he just say that he killed in self defense?
Nobody would have believed him, and he genuinely believed that.
Yeah, I think he was just done explaining himself at this point in his progression. He just stuck with explaining the heart of what they were, which is awful. He was really done trying to win people's approval and came to a point of full acceptance and pride in his actions.
Maybe The Riddler could understand his warning😁
The first two guys would have been self defense yes, but the guy he chased that would be murder in the realm of law.
@@DacStudiosEntertainment They wouldn't of realistically speaking and in the context of the film.
I love the thumbnail like hmm yes the furious expression on his face and the gun he is pointing at Murray each serve as indicators that he may be experiencing some anger or even perhaps hatred
The quality of this video is really great. May the UA-cam algorithm be with you.
This scene has more emotion than any other movie scene i’ve ever watched. I could write an entire essay about this scene alone
Um that's legit but Oldboy is in my opinion even better.
6:55
joker: you're awful
subtitles: you're awesome
Man you completely left out how he didnt even know what to do at the end. Holding back the third shot, pacing away without intent and trying to cover it up by the dance... He just nailed that role
Kudos to Robert Deniro too, he's such a fantastic actor... he still has it
Alternate title: Joaquin Phoenix literally transforming into the Joker for 10 minutes
You mean acting? Because transforming into a character is what acting is about.
@@piotrkowalski3869 I think there's a difference between acting and *BECOMING* a character. Jack Nicholson was ACTING as the Joker. But this FELT like the Joker. I don't know if I'm describing it well enough or not, but, as an actor (only in high school, sure, but still), there can come a moment when you prepare so much about the character, and spend so much time and effort thinking about it, that you go from acting as a character to BEING that person, and that's what this felt like, to me, at least.
@@AJEDDY97 that's character acting as opposed to method acting you try to convey the charate itself.
@@piotrkowalski3869 fair point. I just felt that Joaquin really became the Joker, and that's who we saw, not an actor playing him.
The Joker actor really does a good job of acting like a real life patient in a mental institution.
I realised that no matter how well written the script was, without a great actor/actress to get into and become the character they play, we wouldn’t have these masterpieces that invokes our emotions like we were there.
This genuinely helps me as an aspiring filmmaker to get the absolute best of my performers, emotionally. Thank you so much!
It’s my pleasure ☺️
What films are you working on?
As someone who has bipolar I can vouch that in this movie, Joaquin expresses and captures the soul crushing loneliness and isolation of depression better and more accurately than I have ever seen it done. It was riveting TBH.
Yeah, indeed
Yes that’s exactly how is it. As somebody who possibly has bipolar but have depression. The struggle with loneliness is real.
It shows you the dark parts of the joker! His shadow is out for vengeance
Yes that was an extremely good piece of acting from Joaquin throughout the entire movie. I felt for the character and actually applauded his final action.
That scene looks so real it’s nuts
I went into this movie not expecting much (I mean its DC after all). The grim appearance and misery was hard to bear but once I started to understand I couldn't get enough. This is the pinnacle Joker. Perfect acting from everyone in the movie and I can't stop singing the movies praises. Perfect Joker and the most deserved Oscar for a LOOONNNNGGGG time.
I think its strange nobody talks about how effeminate he is when he's Joker. The way he talks especially changes.
Arthur too is actually pretty effeminate in some lines. You definitely hear it during the conversation between him and his boss
the joker was always flamboyant
That is the only thing I didn't like, just a little too much but at the same time, Arthur was a bit effeminate too and as the joker if his voice suddenly changed to this domineering masculine voice it would have been too cartoonish
@@inuchan74 It's like in his mind, being free of father-figures completely freed him. It was a brilliant choice on Juaquin's part to play it that way, I think.
I know!! He was kinda the stereotype Nelly gay guy. My life is a comedy Murr-Rayy. Whats funnay and not...
I've always thought that this was an incredible scene. I never thought about the body language involved. It really makes it more interesting now that you've pointed out the significance of the actions that I subconsciously understood but didn't realize. Thank you. Very interesting.
I’m glad to be able to provide something interesting!
Awesome breakdown of the scene, I also thought - right at the end - 9:23 when he does that little dance - is his full transition into madness or the choice to live outside society. He has decided "if you are not going to notice me, I am going to MAKE you notice me" - great video and awesome movie!
The way he bounces his legs in adrenaline after shooting him gives me chills
"Do I look like the kinda clown that could start a movement?" That's 100% the Joker I remember.
The way you describe how each of their actions play out with their emotions and feelings makes it feel like you're reading out a storybook. Great stuff.
Phoenix and Deniro were a perfect yet unexpected duo
This makes me love the joker even more.
When Murray was digging for info for a story, he was really digging his own grave...
Joaquin Phoenix is just on a whole other level. Even in poorly received movies, his acting shines through.
8:32
Such a haunting look.
Damn, i had a feeling there was a lot to unpack there, but I was genuinely surprised with the amount of depth into each character. Well done!
Seen the scene like a dozen times and it still makes me nervous and builds up so much emotion in me. It's incredible!!
this scene was so so powerful, over the years i have done my work in learning to the best of my ability’s body language analytics and this was such a great scene, there is just so much raw material to digest here also i was shocked at how rather “realistic” this death was too like i was genuinely surprised at how like his body reacted to the first shot.
This scene kind of really shows he is going down that road to becoming this guy who no longer seeks approval, but just seeks to make others see what he sees. That guy who no longer tries to make others understand him, but rather tries to force others to acknowledge that their world is a _literal joke_ - the Joker.
This scene feels like a true starting gun to that transformation.
Joaquin Phoenix is an incredible actor
An interestig part of the story, for me, is when Arthur is at the cinema watching Chaplin. It's almost like an epiphany hits him. His desire to be a stand up might be because he believes it is a step up from being a clown. But Chaplin is considered a genius for his physical comedy. We see Arthur synchronise his movement with Chaplin's, after observing his lousy timing with stand up.
I just thought it interesting in the context of body language.
*Director watched the video*
Director: "Yup that was definitely intended"
I think what I love the most about this scene is how you can clearly see the constant switching between his personas. That switch happens faster as things progress untill he more or less stays the Joker.
I shat bricks throughout this scene in the theater. The awkwardness of Arthur's movements and words, the unprepared, clumsy speech, the rising anxiety not only of him but of just about everyone on-screen. There's something seriously raw and real about how this plays out, I get chills every single time.
"they couldn't sing a tune to save their lives" by far my favorite joke from the movie
This was a great fresh view into an amazing movie and this made the movie look even better by seeing the amazing acting!
It's amazing what context can do for a moment like someone being shot. In something like John Wick or many video games, there is constant death and destruction which comes across as fun and cool. Then there are scenes like this that make you shocked and almost feel sick. It's pretty amazing to be honest and really shows to me that it's context that is important, not that people are just desensitised to violence.
I've always been good at reading body language and picking up others' emotions. These videos are still so interesting and I learn more ways to interpret behavior. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with people, it's a useful social skill.
Joker tells a joke that was so funny it blew Murray’s mind 😂
You should make an analysis about the interrogation room in the Dark Knight!
He did. ua-cam.com/video/hk3epFoCRAY/v-deo.html
This gonna be good
Hope so 😁
Just like how your comment has 69 likes
This is the start of a great channel with hundreds of thousands of subscribers in the future. This niche, although available, it's still scarce for the demand it has. You can fill it. Keep up the great content!
Joaquin's acting here is so amazing and he deserves the praise he gets
Years of people pushing him around culminating in the subway shooting and finally killing Murray...