for those who commented about thinking to weld the flywheel to make it kinda solid; don't do it your gearbox may suffer and i've heard even your crankshaft could take a hit the dual masses are there to take the sudden shocks and keep everything calm and smooth
Amazing what you can learn on here thanks, I seem to have a failing DMF by the sounds of it. I'm going to adjust my linkage tomorrow and check shifter bearings but the slight push you mentioned you had to get it in and out of gear your describing sounds exactly like mine, clutch seems good to me I've done the slipping test and it still performs. I just want to get it sorted I love my van so I want it to shift dead smooth and nice
Hi Jamie, thanks for watching and for the nice comment! Well, maybe if you're lucky it's not the DMF but just something with the clutch set. Sometimes the old flywheel is still good and you can get some more miles out of it.
Ohoh bought a 07 Explorer recently. Codes gave me multiple mis fires, so I thought it was Sparkplugs, or Coils. But I also get a burning smell thru the vents, & car & engine shake a bit. I'm wondering if it's the flywheel, happens a lot to Fords!
thank you! very useful! :) i have a 2009 opel astra and i could not figutre out why it was stalling on uphill when everything was ok and it got checked before MOT (except for transmission) The problem was not in me everyone driving my car had same problem (including mechanics on a test drive) , i released the clutch to bite point and as soon as i pressed the accelerator cas started violently shaking and stalled even if i floored the accelerator. Car also shakes when clutch is on bite point and jerks when clutch is like 3/4 to fully released. This helped me a lot :)
@@SelfIndulgentGamer its working fine now after i drove it bit harder for 4 hours on steep backroads and highways. Idk what was really a problem then :D
Hi, and thanks for watching! In this case, the DMF caused some damage to the pressure plate and release bearing making the shifting much harder. We saw this when we took off the transmission. This is why it's always recommendable to replace the DMF on time, or even better within the recommended service interval (when it still functions normally). Otherwise, you have to change the whole clutch set and DMF which is the usual scenario.
@@DespairRepair That makes sense, thank you! I’ll be replacing those parts soon along with the rear main seal. I’m unsure if I should convert to a solid flywheel in my BMW E46
@@danielskrskr You're welcome and hope it helps. Good luck with the repair, to be honest, I've seen a couple of people do this type of conversion, not only on BMW's It seems possible and pretty successful, just don't know how it holds up in the long run.
Hi and thanks for watching! Since you've commented on this video I guess you suspect the flywheel. How many miles/kilometers are on the clock? Does the car stutter when you want to start in 1 gear? It could be other things besides the DMF. the clutch plate for instance. It could be a faulty engine mount etc.
Hi and thanks for watching! Good question and a tough one to explain in writing. I can only say it's a different kind of vibration accompanied by a slight clunking sound in the case of the dmf. With the engine mounts, it's more like a humming vibration, at least from my experience. Hope this helps.
on my case with new engine/gearbox mounts( i am not 100 sure if it is dmf as i haven't take it to mechanic) usually some noises on cold startup that changes/disappears when clutch is pushed slightly if you downshift (without proper rev matching) there would be noises and vibrations while on the bite-point i supposr you would get some clunking noisr when turning engine off (keep hood open and ac off and radio off and windows down) and listen carefully; the noise shouldn't appear if you killed the engine with the clutch pressed only appears when clutch released how many kms or miles on your car ?
Hey, I have a noise on cold starts. When it sounds like the flywheel, but when you press the clutch pedal, the clutch release bearing sounds, but it only happens on cold. when the car get heat. it just doesn't sound anymore. What could be the problem? It's a 2.0 TFSI audi 8p 6 speed manual
@@ElJaviTuning with those kilometers it shouldn't be the DMF yet, especially if the car is treated properly. The sound you described sounds more like the release bearing. This is a cheaper and more harmless repair but nevertheless, the whole transmission has to be taken off to replace it. One more thing, you can replace this apart from the DMF if it's still good. This can seriously reduce the cost of repair. Hope this helps at least a little bit, if you knew all of this, sorry for the patronizing :-)
Hi Richard and thanks for watching! Well, I wouldn't recommend it (if you're serious) as that repair would be short-lived. Better try and find a used one although that option is also with a questionable outcome (but it is the cheapest and may serve for some time).
Which country do you live in? I bought a DMF set for my multivan for 460 euros in Germany and had it replaced in Poland for 80 euros. I was on holiday and was passing by anyway.
Hi and thanks for watching! Parts for Fiat especially for a Stilo are above average in my country since it's not that common of a car. Perhaps it would be cheaper if more people owned it. Good that you solved your problem cheaper, I still can't get over the money I spent fixing the dual mass flywheel, to tell you the truth. Best regards.
Hey! Great video! When i put my car into first sometimes it spits the gear back at me? Could this be because of the duel flywheel? Or would it be gear oil fluid???
Hi and thanks for watching! The oil is certainly worth the check, it may cause this kind of problem. I doubt that a dual-mass flywheel problem would cause this. If the gear lever was instead tough to shift, then maybe. If you can, also check the cables or levers that connect the gearbox and shifter. Hope this helps and all the best to you.
Alfa mito twin air . Flywheel destroyed gear box case . Cost me 2000 pounds to repair . The next DMF lasted 30 k miles. Sold the car befor it went completely. DMF TERRIBLE . BE WARNED
Hi Andrew, thanks for watching and sharing! Know that's a horror story but sadly it's not that uncommon. A brilliant engineering solution for the clutch but only for the first 200 000 kilometers or so. After that, it's an expensive nightmare. By the way, nice car you had there despite the troubles.
True bruv but mine seemed ok now the car feels worse a welded dual mass would be like a single flywheel no I'm gonna pay 250 labour plus mass wheel 379 so it's mad expensive if I weld it in place at worst it will be a box of job and get one
Yeah, I know what you're talking about, been there. When I had the same problem and saw the prices I almost got a heart attack, especially since the car was old and didn't have much of a price on the used market. Do what you have to, never had experience with a welded flywheel. Please don't take this as patronizing but I would still go for the used option. Best of luck and I'll say again that the DMF is a pain to solve.
for those who commented about thinking to weld the flywheel to make it kinda solid; don't do it
your gearbox may suffer and i've heard even your crankshaft could take a hit
the dual masses are there to take the sudden shocks and keep everything calm and smooth
Amazing what you can learn on here thanks, I seem to have a failing DMF by the sounds of it. I'm going to adjust my linkage tomorrow and check shifter bearings but the slight push you mentioned you had to get it in and out of gear your describing sounds exactly like mine, clutch seems good to me I've done the slipping test and it still performs. I just want to get it sorted I love my van so I want it to shift dead smooth and nice
Hi Jamie, thanks for watching and for the nice comment!
Well, maybe if you're lucky it's not the DMF but just something with the clutch set. Sometimes the old flywheel is still good and you can get some more miles out of it.
Ohoh bought a 07 Explorer recently. Codes gave me multiple mis fires, so I thought it was Sparkplugs, or Coils. But I also get a burning smell thru the vents, & car & engine shake a bit. I'm wondering if it's the flywheel, happens a lot to Fords!
Hi, and thanks for watching! Just check the mileage
thank you! very useful! :) i have a 2009 opel astra and i could not figutre out why it was stalling on uphill when everything was ok and it got checked before MOT (except for transmission) The problem was not in me everyone driving my car had same problem (including mechanics on a test drive) , i released the clutch to bite point and as soon as i pressed the accelerator cas started violently shaking and stalled even if i floored the accelerator. Car also shakes when clutch is on bite point and jerks when clutch is like 3/4 to fully released. This helped me a lot :)
Glad the video helped! Thanks for watching!
Someone has hidden a cricket in your car 😁
@@SelfIndulgentGamer its working fine now after i drove it bit harder for 4 hours on steep backroads and highways. Idk what was really a problem then :D
I don't understand how to the DMF would cause the gear lever to be hard to shift into any gear. Please explain
Hi, and thanks for watching!
In this case, the DMF caused some damage to the pressure plate and release bearing making the shifting much harder.
We saw this when we took off the transmission.
This is why it's always recommendable to replace the DMF on time, or even better within the recommended service interval (when it still functions normally).
Otherwise, you have to change the whole clutch set and DMF which is the usual scenario.
@@DespairRepair That makes sense, thank you! I’ll be replacing those parts soon along with the rear main seal. I’m unsure if I should convert to a solid flywheel in my BMW E46
@@danielskrskr You're welcome and hope it helps.
Good luck with the repair, to be honest, I've seen a couple of people do this type of conversion, not only on BMW's
It seems possible and pretty successful, just don't know how it holds up in the long run.
I own Ford Focus 1.5 diesel 2015. A raising / vibration when I depress clutch pedal. Gear shift good, drives good. Any clue?
Hi and thanks for watching!
Since you've commented on this video I guess you suspect the flywheel.
How many miles/kilometers are on the clock?
Does the car stutter when you want to start in 1 gear?
It could be other things besides the DMF. the clutch plate for instance. It could be a faulty engine mount etc.
How to differentiate between engine mounts vibrations VS dmf vibrations? Thanks
Hi and thanks for watching!
Good question and a tough one to explain in writing.
I can only say it's a different kind of vibration accompanied by a slight clunking sound in the case of the dmf.
With the engine mounts, it's more like a humming vibration, at least from my experience.
Hope this helps.
on my case with new engine/gearbox mounts( i am not 100 sure if it is dmf as i haven't take it to mechanic)
usually some noises on cold startup that changes/disappears when clutch is pushed slightly
if you downshift (without proper rev matching) there would be noises and vibrations while on the bite-point
i supposr you would get some clunking noisr when turning engine off (keep hood open and ac off and radio off and windows down) and listen carefully; the noise shouldn't appear if you killed the engine with the clutch pressed only appears when clutch released
how many kms or miles on your car ?
I cant toi can use single mass?
Hi, and thanks for watching! Depends on the car, in most cases best to avoid it.
Hey, I have a noise on cold starts. When it sounds like the flywheel, but when you press the clutch pedal, the clutch release bearing sounds, but it only happens on cold. when the car get heat. it just doesn't sound anymore. What could be the problem? It's a 2.0 TFSI audi 8p 6 speed manual
Hi and thanks for watching!
What's the production year and how many kilometers/miles does it have on the odometer?
@@DespairRepair Seat leon mk2 FR 2.0 TFSI. It has 169.000 Km, the vehicle is 2008
@@ElJaviTuning with those kilometers it shouldn't be the DMF yet, especially if the car is treated properly.
The sound you described sounds more like the release bearing.
This is a cheaper and more harmless repair but nevertheless, the whole transmission has to be taken off to replace it.
One more thing, you can replace this apart from the DMF if it's still good.
This can seriously reduce the cost of repair.
Hope this helps at least a little bit, if you knew all of this, sorry for the patronizing :-)
I'm gonna weld the dual mass flywheel together in couldn't affords to replace it it can't be worse than it is
Hi Richard and thanks for watching!
Well, I wouldn't recommend it (if you're serious) as that repair would be short-lived.
Better try and find a used one although that option is also with a questionable outcome (but it is the cheapest and may serve for some time).
Good luck. That may actually work. Make sure you have the flywheel balanced after and of course have the clutch disc area ground smooth.
Which country do you live in? I bought a DMF set for my multivan for 460 euros in Germany and had it replaced in Poland for 80 euros. I was on holiday and was passing by anyway.
Hi and thanks for watching! Parts for Fiat especially for a Stilo are above average in my country since it's not that common of a car. Perhaps it would be cheaper if more people owned it.
Good that you solved your problem cheaper, I still can't get over the money I spent fixing the dual mass flywheel, to tell you the truth.
Best regards.
Hey! Great video! When i put my car into first sometimes it spits the gear back at me? Could this be because of the duel flywheel? Or would it be gear oil fluid???
Hi and thanks for watching!
The oil is certainly worth the check, it may cause this kind of problem.
I doubt that a dual-mass flywheel problem would cause this. If the gear lever was instead tough to shift, then maybe.
If you can, also check the cables or levers that connect the gearbox and shifter.
Hope this helps and all the best to you.
@@DespairRepair You’re amazing! Thank you for replying, ill change the oil and see what happens from there!
Quick question. When shifting mostly from 1 to 2 whe I press the clutch the whole car jerks, is this a symptom too?
Hi and thanks for watching!
It can be but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the dual mass flywheel.
Other things can cause this also.
Exact same problem as you describe for me on my 2015 manual Audi A6, replacement including labour/parts was £2300 though :(
Hi and thanks for watching! Oh my goodness, that's a heck of a lot of money.
Seems to me like the flywheel problem is a sure way to bankruptcy :-)
how many miles or kms did it have when it failed ?
i would guess 60-100k kms ?!
that squeak sound when you turn it off doesn't mean that it is from the flywheel
Hi and thanks for watching!
Yes, you're right but in my case, it was in fact due to the dual mass flywheel.
Thanks!
You're welcome and thank you for wathcing!
Alfa mito twin air . Flywheel destroyed gear box case . Cost me 2000 pounds to repair . The next DMF lasted 30 k miles. Sold the car befor it went completely. DMF TERRIBLE . BE WARNED
Hi Andrew, thanks for watching and sharing!
Know that's a horror story but sadly it's not that uncommon.
A brilliant engineering solution for the clutch but only for the first 200 000 kilometers or so.
After that, it's an expensive nightmare.
By the way, nice car you had there despite the troubles.
True bruv but mine seemed ok now the car feels worse a welded dual mass would be like a single flywheel no I'm gonna pay 250 labour plus mass wheel 379 so it's mad expensive if I weld it in place at worst it will be a box of job and get one
Yeah, I know what you're talking about, been there.
When I had the same problem and saw the prices I almost got a heart attack, especially since the car was old and didn't have much of a price on the used market.
Do what you have to, never had experience with a welded flywheel. Please don't take this as patronizing but I would still go for the used option.
Best of luck and I'll say again that the DMF is a pain to solve.
ahoj, si čech však ? podla prízvuku :D
ahoj, nie, ale je to skoro to isté :-)
Toto je Google Translate, takže dúfam, že sa nič nedeje 🙂
$2700 us dollars
For parts
@@nitrotech20 hi and thanks for watching! What car if it isn't a secret.