Star Wars Theory's Dune Part Two Review
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Theory is low key jealous of Dune. Star Wars needs Dennis Villeneuve. This is What Disney Star wars should have been
Villeneuve directing Star Wars makes no sense. Like George Lucas said himself, fundamentally Star Wars is a franchise that caters to children. Villeneuve’s films have a darker more mature tone. Villeneuve directing Star Wars would disregard what Star Wars is.
@@kemal3599 I get what you're saying but tbh I think it's a pretty universally welcomed idea to have a more mature star wars. We know that Disney has no intention of honouring George Lucas' vision, but they pretend like they do. I think it's time that Star Wars evolve. And if bet money that. Mature star wars would de amazing in cinema. Even Lucas himself made a mature and dark star wars (Revenge of the Sith)
@@yungxave plus, Andor has proved that mature star wars made by competent people can be incredible viewing in its own right. So why not do it again, maybe with some more iconic characters?
@@kemal3599Star Wars was at its best when it didn’t cater to children. Empire for example. It fell off a cliff when it started to. Truth is Denis will never touch Star Wars cause artistically it’s dead. The over saturation material killed it.
rip starwars
Tbh I disagree, I think this film is one of the best movies ever made
theory coping like hell
It didn't have key jingling in front of Theory's face. It didn't have lightsabers, cameos, Force users, Anakin/Vader. That's all Theory knows. Aside from Harry Potter and DBZ. Outside of these 3 things, the guy is completely clueless when it comes to pop culture, movies, TV shows, Hollywood, mainstream media. He has shown this time and time again with these podcasts asking Ryan and Mauler who is that? I don't know what that is. Theory wouldn't know a good story, good writing, good character development if it hit him in the face. Why do you think he rated Andor below Ahsoka and complained about the scene of Syril Karn and his mother having some breakfast. That was great character development but Theory just found it boring of them eating some cereal because it didn't have any lightsabers or Anakin/Vader. The key jingling of cameos and and the Force is the only thing that makes good SW to him. He is not a smart man at all. He can't actively think anything is better than SW, HP, or DBZ even if its objectively better.
Dune is Star Wars for adult. Part 2 is a cinematic achievement.
I love Theory’s passion for Star Wars but he clearly did not go to see Dune Part 2 with an open mind. And it’s clear when he said wasn’t everything over when the Emperor kissed Paul’s ring… c’mon man, just admit that you weren’t paying attention and probably only focused on things to downplay or criticize
It didn't have key jingling in front of Theory's face. It didn't have lightsabers, cameos, Force users, Anakin/Vader. That's all Theory knows. Aside from Harry Potter and DBZ. Outside of these 3 things, the guy is completely clueless when it comes to pop culture, movies, TV shows, Hollywood, mainstream media. He has shown this time and time again with these podcasts asking Ryan and Mauler who is that? I don't know what that is. Theory wouldn't know a good story, good writing, good character development if it hit him in the face. Why do you think he rated Andor below Ahsoka and complained about the scene of Syril Karn and his mother having some breakfast. That was great character development but Theory just found it boring of them eating some cereal because it didn't have any lightsabers or Anakin/Vader. The key jingling of cameos and and the Force is the only thing that makes good SW to him. He is not a smart man at all.
It’s actually insane how ignorant theory is, you don’t have to necessarily read the books to understand that a holy war is coming. You also need to realize as a Star Wars fan. A lot of the story beats George Lucas took our directly from Frank Herbert Dune. That doesn’t mean that Star Wars, necessarily copied Dune, because a lot of the politicalideas of Dune were based off of religious ideas, while the politics of Star Wars said by George Lucas focus on more like the Vietnam war and the Afghan war
Even theory cannot admit..Dune is the new power in the universe...😂
It didn't have key jingling in front of Theory's face. It didn't have lightsabers, cameos, Force users, Anakin/Vader. That's all Theory knows. Aside from Harry Potter and DBZ. Outside of these 3 things, the guy is completely clueless when it comes to pop culture, movies, TV shows, Hollywood, mainstream media. He has shown this time and time again with these podcasts asking Ryan and Mauler who is that? I don't know what that is. Theory wouldn't know a good story, good writing, good character development if it hit him in the face. Why do you think he rated Andor below Ahsoka and complained about the scene of Syril Karn and his mother having some breakfast. That was great character development but Theory just found it boring of them eating some cereal because it didn't have any lightsabers or Anakin/Vader. The key jingling of cameos and and the Force is the only thing that makes good SW to him. He is not a smart man at all. He can't actively think anything is better than SW, HP, or DBZ even if its objectively better.
saying it's nowhere near two towers is hilarious. Dune is literally one of the greatest films ever made. it's not recency bias. just from a cinematography stand point alone, it's on an entirely different level from the two towers. Denis Villeneuve is a film genius.
It’s the exact opposite of recency bias…. These guys are downplaying it because they just wanna shit on things that are new
Can we just appreciate how honest they are
These guys will cry and cream their pants for a CGI face Luke Skywalker Cameo but will say Dune 2 was mid lol
@@doompeach7228 lmaooo fr. "I don't understand dune" how do you not, it's starwars before starwars with a way better and more complex story
Was looking for this comment. Well said
My guy so jealous and mad about dune be better than the last 20 years of all star wars content 🤣
George Lucas just ripped off The Dune Author.
Well, Star Wars was Inspired by Flash Gordon, Word War II and Historical Polictains, but yes, he did borrow ideas from Dune.
Very dumb take
@@rawleigh729 not dumb at all. George Lucas was directly inspired by Akira Kurosawas movies, the Star Trek show, and the Dune book..
He’s mentioned all three of those on different occasions
@@rawleigh729educate yourself
I've slowly been losing interest in Star Wars and the MCU over the last few years post-covid, 2023 was a real reason for that, and Dune just so happened to start releasing in those same years. Never thought I'd have a new favorite franchise over Star Wars and Marvel but Dune gotta be my favorite, even before part two came out but part two cemented it.
No post covid isn't the reason. The MCU literally ended with Endgame and Star Wars died in 2015 when Lucas sold it to Disney and they disregarded the expanded universe.
Dune part one and two are infinitely better movies than your beloved prequel trilogy. Your nostalgia bias is obvious.
nostalgia is a powerful drug. I understand it but being ignorant of having such a bias hurts ones integrity and spirit. SWT hurt by Dunes success and Star Wars sins
Your goddamn right 👍
They’re better than all the star wars movies. You don’t have the balls to say that though. Just trashing the prequels because it’s safe.
@@Tx2bx I agree personally. However comparing the Dune movies against the original Star Wars trilogy, which was genre defining, is a fruitless endeavor.
@@brandonlow Not for me brother 😂 OT is only immune to criticism because it’s old. That’s real nostalgia bias imo. If we’re gonna shit on the prequels by comparing it to Dune I’ll do the same to the beloved original trilogy which is only glorified because it came out in the 70’s & 80’s. Everyone has their biases, Theory’s no different :) and he was definitely jealous of Dune’s good reviews lol
A book to film adaptation that Star Wars was heavily inspired by, with the perfect cast, a political, philosophical, religious story which GOT was also heavily inspired by and it wasn’t something SWT/Mauler couldn’t get into. Alllrighty then 😂
Incredible film imo, loved it. Cannot wait for Messiah
Dune Part 2 is peak cinema at the moment! I think it really is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time!
I disagree heavily with the assessment. It’s the best thing since LOTR and better than anything Star Wars has come out with for years s
Dune 2 makes Revenge Of The Sith look like Disney Channel
@@magiccookies420never disrespect rots like that ever again. It is the best piece of cinematic entertainment that has ever been produced. Dune 2 doesn’t even come close. The third act of dune 2 is an absolute joke. All that hype for what?. Man please people saying dune is better than star wars are actually insane
@@magiccookies420no chance. Both are equally amazing tbh
@@user-ev6vw5dm2b No. Absolutely not. Revenge of the Sith ( I have rewatched 5 times) . Doesn't even comes close to the likes of Dune part 2
@@user-ev6vw5dm2bokay bro we know you are jealous
Correct, it is nowhere near Two Towers or Empire - it is way beyond them. Seriously, it is a far greater achievement. Of course there are similarities to Star Wars - Dune is a key inspiration that Lucas lifted whole cloth.
Bruuuh like it’s a good movie. But better than two towers??? Nah that’s cap
Don't feed the troll.
Dune Part Two is one of my favorite movies ever but idk about it being better than Two Towers, its way better than Empire though. I do think Messiah has the potential to be greater than two towers and return of the king though
This is facts Star Wars fanboys mad their knockoff copy of dune has been exposed
Nah ESB and TT are still better. Dune part 2 blows any other Star Wars away though.
Bro cannot stand the fact dune is better than Star Wars😭 Star Wars is dead with exception to the animated shows
It didn't have key jingling in front of Theory's face. It didn't have lightsabers, cameos, Force users, Anakin/Vader. That's all Theory knows. Aside from Harry Potter and DBZ. Outside of these 3 things, the guy is completely clueless when it comes to pop culture, movies, TV shows, Hollywood, mainstream media. He has shown this time and time again with these podcasts asking Ryan and Mauler who is that? I don't know what that is. Theory wouldn't know a good story, good writing, good character development if it hit him in the face. Why do you think he rated Andor below Ahsoka and complained about the scene of Syril Karn and his mother having some breakfast. That was great character development but Theory just found it boring of them eating some cereal because it didn't have any lightsabers or Anakin/Vader. The key jingling of cameos and and the Force is the only thing that makes good SW to him. He is not a smart man at all. He can't actively think anything is better than SW, HP, or DBZ even if its objectively better.
Even the animated shows are dead. SW died in 2015 when Lucas sold it to Disney
It is impossible to overhype this movie. You guys are out of your minds. I mean, what more could you want?
"wheres the lightsabers" lol
It didn't have key jingling in front of Theory's face. It didn't have lightsabers, cameos, Force users, Anakin/Vader. That's all Theory knows. Aside from Harry Potter and DBZ. Outside of these 3 things, the guy is completely clueless when it comes to pop culture, movies, TV shows, Hollywood, mainstream media. He has shown this time and time again with these podcasts asking Ryan and Mauler who is that? I don't know what that is. Theory wouldn't know a good story, good writing, good character development if it hit him in the face. Why do you think he rated Andor below Ahsoka and complained about the scene of Syril Karn and his mother having some breakfast. That was great character development but Theory just found it boring of them eating some cereal because it didn't have any lightsabers or Anakin/Vader. The key jingling of cameos and and the Force is the only thing that makes good SW to him. He is not a smart man at all. He can't actively think anything is better than SW, HP, or DBZ even if its objectively better.
ITT:
SW after 1983 = unbearable slobbering incompetence, on a clear downward slope
Dune after 1984 = increasingly better and better, now culminating in one of the most cinematic experiences ever.
As a SW fan I too would be jealous.
Dune beats Star Wars every day. It created the idea of Star Wars.
what I thought was a great separation between anakin and paul’s arc was that paul was fully aware of how awful and terrible the things he’s doing and will do are and tried to resist it until giving in towards the end. Anakin just wanted to save his wife. Paul’s arc isn’t done yet and we’ll probably see the terrible consequences of his holy war in the sequel and maybe have him perhaps regret his decision a little bit. Anakin kinda fully embraced that he’s evil now for decades and paul knew from the start that what he was gonna do is wrong. He already knew he was gonna lose chani once he decided to go south.
Paul already regrets it. He doesn't giving because he is persuade by a lust for power or anything like, he does it because he saw that the path he choose was not just the only path where the one he cares about get to live, it's the path that lead to less prejudice to humanity in the long run
@@gabrielmedeiros987 yup and he does all that only for his son to go further than he was willing to and turn himself into a worm hybrid god emperor. Honestly they should probably stop at messiah and if they really want to make the other sequels into a series. I don’t know how well a worm god emperor would play with audiences especially since the tone of the franchise is so serious it would feel a little too ridiculous.
The spice must flow
Dune>>>>>>>sw
Dune books > OG trilogy star wars > dune movies >>>>> rest of star wars
bro prolly never read a book of dune and watched dune the 1st time this year 💀@@wistfulgraph
@@wistfulgraph Personally I enjoyed the dune movies a lot more than the OT movie
@@casualgaming4975 that’s fine. For me A New Hope and Dune: part two are pretty close and Dune 1 is significantly better than Return of the Jedi. But Empire Strikes Back is leagues ahead of everyone and puts star wars over the edge for me.
well dune 2 is what the last jedi should have or could have been.... instead we got the crap disney trilogy
Lotr trilogy > ESB > Dune part 1+2 > Star Wars 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9
1. Fellowship of the Ring
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. The Return of the King
4. The Two Towers
5. A New Hope
6. Dune: Part 1/Part 2
7. The Return of the Jedi
8. Rogue One/Revenge of the Sith
9. Force Awakens
10. Attack of the Clones
11. The Phantom Menace
12. The Last Jedi
13. The Rise of Skywalker
Dead Wrong
@@arnavnigam9259 sorry Star Wars is poorly acted and written mediocre shit compared to dune and lord of the rings.
@@barkley8285 haha what I'm saying is Dune part 2 > ESB maybe
@@barkley8285 Lord of the rings of course is on another level tho
These guys are a joke, Dune is one of the best movies ever made
It’s just bitterness because Star Wats is dead now
@@Mason20000they know that but opinions are opinions ig
Completely understand theory’s perspective here . I love dune I’ve read all the books multiple times . It’s not Star Wars it’s not as accessible as Star Wars let’s just get that out of the way , and as much as I love the series I understand that it’s not for everyone and that’s ok .
A movie in 2024 that doesn’t have the sole intention of pushing political agenda to children, where half of the crew and actors aren’t diversity hires/choices, that has an actually good story, cinematography, soundtrack and acting? Sounded like a dream to me after all of the woke Disney trash lately.
saying dune isn't political...
when is it a diversity hire and when is it not?
@@bastardcommieguitarman a movie being political and a movie pushing political aspects are two different things. One is a sub-genre the other is catering towards the real world through forced storytelling. This movie consists of the former.
@@bastardcommieguitarmanWell, it’s political in a way that makes sense for the story and the characters involved, instead of pushing real life agendas and checking boxes.
@@xdarkxskullzx just like star wars wasn't pushing the real life agenda of us imperialism is bad...
Dune actually wipes any piece of Star Wars media from the last 30 years
Dune was definitely amazing, but no it will never top Star Wars
True, but dune 1-2 was better than the Sequel.
@@TyrionLannister28agreed
@@TyrionLannister28 Easily lol those movies don’t exist to me
@@EndTimeWarriors-bp3vr agreed🤝
@@ZION-THELASTRONIN 🤝🤝
WHAT
I've been a SW fan since I was a child, but c'mon if you don't realize how Dune is far superior to SW in every aspect well you are making SW projects a disservice. After watching Dune it's really hard not to feel Star Wars like those old campy saturday morning action and adventure cartoons. Disney has to Andorize all upcoming Star Wars if they want to stay relevant.
I go with Theory's plan. I too use "hope" for things to be good ie "I hope it will be good". This way, I don't have to worry about bad writing, hope will fix it going "forwards".
I love Dune
I’m like you guys; I was seven in the the theatre watching Ep IV. I’m a lifelong SW fan…..then I saw Dune ‘84 and like everyone at the time, I immediately forgot about it. I was obsessed with SW in my teens, got into girls, then The Prequels came out, got obsessed again……then I was finally ready to read Dune after the cheesy 2000 miniseries. I was finally old enough to get it. I pushed through the first third of the book, basically learning a new language along with the incredibly deep, dense and allegorical Duniverse. I finally understood why it had withstood the test of time.
I’ve read the Frank Herbert saga and have been low key obsessed with it for years. It never replaced SW in my heart, mostly because it had never had a proper, serious, quality film adaptation. I went to see Blade Runner 2049 and was mesmerized by it, truly. I had all but written SW off by then. I then read that Denis Villenueve, director of Blade Runner 2049 was adapting Dune….guys, I’m not kidding, I had the same reaction many people had when they saw The Force Awakens trailer. I became obsessed with the casting, the screenplay, checked Quinn’s Ideas channel regularly for updates. When the cast was announced I knew it would be a masterpiece.
Here we are, nearly eight years after the announcement of the Dune adaptation and now the world knows this highly influential story. We all know and acknowledge the obvious: no Dune, no Star Wars. It’s not “owning” Star Wars or replacing it , Star Wars is dead as a brand. But now a major source of inspiration for SW is in the culture, no longer relegated to Uber nerd seclusion. People now know how incredible this saga is and yeah, it will never be for everyone but guys, in time, just like what happened with Empire Strikes Back, Dune Part II will be acknowledged as one of the greatest sci fi movies of all time. I was there when Empire came out and yeah, I loved it but not everyone did. It was a bummer compared to Ep IV which wasn’t even called that at the time. As time went on, people recognized it for the seminal movie it was. The same will happen with Dune Part II and I don’t even think it will take very long either.
Is it overhyped? Consider this: SW redefined not only sci-fi and the visual language of sci-fi. It redefined movies in general. Everything after SW took its queue from SW. Dune just did the same thing. Nothing we’ve seen before looks or feels like it. It’s been a month since seeing and I can’t stop ruminating on it, and c’mon, Paul Atreides’ address to the Fremen in the Cave of Birds is operatic. Embrace the hype because the movie is equal to the hype.
I’d love to see more Dune videos from Theory. It’s so good bro! It doesn’t replace Star Wars but it’s great right along side it! They’re both great stories and different and similar in their own ways! I grew up watching Revenge of the Sith twice a day as a kid. Now I’ve been seeing Dune everyday! It’s great to see some new Sci-Fi movies with old source material adapted. Long live Dune and Star Wars!!!
It make SW obsolete, RIP SW 😂
@@George-um2vc ok buddy
Theory why do you want that popcorn bucket??? 😂😅
The marketing of the stupid popcorn bucket got way out of hand. They didn't even had it in my country
I love these movies
As a Dune guy I nned more of this stuff, I grew up starwars, I will answer your questions if you need. Im a non channel, or this is my non channel.
Ironic considering Star Wars is a rip off of Dune
Ngl, I thought it was simply amazing. I couldnt even nitpick it if I tried
I wouldn’t say it’s in no way better than those other movies named. I’d say it’s as good or better. It is that good. So well done. It’s everything Disney Star Wars could have been.
I very much liked dune 1. It took its time but it was telling a story in a very developped way. And the second one is accelarating everything like ok tyzre's action but what about character developpement ? Te guy who seeks revenge ? Don't give a damn lile there's too many storylines in the movie and I felt like thy were making actionq scenes only to keep people in theatre. Tho visually i was smashed directly in the eyes, it was amazingly directed. But I felt it would've needed to be cut in two parts.
I'm so tired of the Star Wars lames who won't acknowledge that Lucas based his story from Frank Herbert and that Dune is way better than Star Wars
Both Dune movies are really AWESOME! Dune part 2 in particular is proof that Star Wars, as a franchise, is dead.
We now know that movies like the OG SW Trilogy really could be made today without all the political nonsense or cartoon like cgi.
I'd suggest to Theory to read the Dune books and rewatch the films. I'd really like him to start a "Dune Theory" channel.
I loved Star Wars as a kid but as an adult Dune is just better…
Theory sounds salty that the Dune movies did what Disney Star Wars couldn’t
Not enough character in dune? Wtf is wrong with people
Better than every Star Wars movie imo
Lucas borrowed and stole everything from Dune 😂
These comments are a nice sign that the Dune/Star Wars Jihad is going well 😂
@7:29 yeah because you are comparing him to Palpatine. You aren't supposed to be scared of The Emperor in Dune. SMDH. Stop comparing everything to SW.
As a SW fan, I'm happy to admit Dune was a huge influence on Star Wars: desolate sand planet, the Jedi and the Force are very obviously based on the Bene Gesserit and the Voice, and there are more. Still, SW is very far from being some kind of Dune ripoff.
1. As many as the common elements are, they're still a small part of the whole universe.
2. These similarities kinda run out as soon as you go beyond what was introduced in A New Hope.
3. The story is not that similar, and the feel is not similar at all. Dune is more mature, SW is more operatic and deals much more explicitly with good vs. evil.
And as good as the new Dune movies might be, they still don't even attempt to fix the major problem with recent movies in general -- we just don't get top quality genuinely new stuff these days. Dune is based on a famous book, LOTR is based on a famous book, the new SW stuff is bad and a sad copy of the older SW stuff, etc. People seem to have run out of new ideas.
New dune is the STARWARS killer lol
An audiobook is a21 hour novel you can’t adapt that for normal consumption in the movie set up there is lots of thugs cut out yeah
To get the full context, you literally do need have to read the books and I’ve read dune Messiah and children and then I didn’t read the rest of them because they are so far up their ass and dry with political bullshit that I just don’t care but the first three books are good
I love dune but no
It seems like a series without a pushed agenda or pandering so im interested
I never thought I’d say this because I although I respect his opinion I almost never agree with Ryan , but I think he’s spot on here . As a straight adaptation of the source material it is disappointing as movies I think both work extremely well , I think once I realized this wasn’t going to be Frank Herbert’s Dune and more Denis Villeneuve’s dune I enjoyed the movie’s a lot more for what they were as opposed to what they aren’t.
Character Assassination Parts 1 & 2. Why did WB make this Marvel-Dune?
this movie was a hard 5/10
Theory can’t admit Lucas rewrote Dune and he seems hella butthurt about it.
As a hardcore Dune fan. Calling it a rewrite of Dune is a bit silly. But yes Star Wars is heavily heavily inspired by it
@@jaybristowe2346not really your being to over exaggerative tbh
Sigh
There is a Star Wars level classic in Dune 1 and 2 edited together and kept to 3 hours long. Fan edits will fix this problem.