I think Olympus nailed it correctly with a the Mark ii versions of the EM10, EM5 and EM1. They were also all metal bodied. Since then, they went a bit awry, except with the EM1 Mk iii.
I like E-M5 iii , better for everything. Lighter weight and composite feels better in my hands. The buttons are much firmer and out of the way, so not to get accidentally changed. But it’s the inside that matters most, and the Mark III is much more advanced. Phase detection focus. EM1-X sensor. 20 MP. “High Resolution Mode”. 240 SLO-MO. 💁🏻♀️💕
I am one of those who suffered from a bottom plate crack from using a Peak Design clip in the tripod mount. I specifically bought this camera for outdoor use during hiking due to the marketing as an ‘adventure’ camera. I should have watched this video before buying! I have since replaced it with an E-M1 MarkIII.
E-M5 iii feels much better in my hands. The composite body is nice. Plus I mostly shoot small primes. 14mm. 15mm 17mm 20mm 45mm 💁🏻♀️ For tripod use just get the after market Haoge Grip with the built in Arca Swiss mount.
9:30 The smaller battery seems to align the EM1 Mk iii more with EM10 users rather than as an EM5 Mk ii upgrade. The battery is the same as in the EM10 Mk ii for instance. It makes the EM5 Mk iii more of an upgrade for an EM10. There is a lowering of the status of this EM5 Mk iii compared to the Mk ii. Then all these features have been carried over to the OM5.
Smaller battery but same number of photos per full charge, leading to lighter weight camera. This camera is geared towards portability and pocketability, makes sense to me.
Great review! Many different observations that other reviewers miss. Especially with the anodised finish bit. As a metallurgist and materials scientist I appreciate that. I really can't imagine why anyone would want a silver metallic finish on a plastic camera or lens!
Regarding the base and tripod screw mount, already some mark III users have cracked bases around the mount. Appears there is no metal frame attached to mount, support and camera. Very risky especially for tripod users and those that attach a strap to the tripod mount! Thanks.
That's my cause of concern too when using the pro lenses for nature photography. Also heat from shooting in 4K should be better dissipated with magnesium alloy body than composite plastic. Thanks for watching!
I have a G9 for just over a year and got this one several weeks ago. Making it from a tough plastic was a great idea and I don’t really see using my G9 anymore except for serious work. The EM5 is very intuitive for me and quite enjoyable to carry all day, even if I’m not using a prime and my 12-40 pro. Video I don’t do but if I did then it would be the G9 probably.
12:09 I'm not sure about the two value dials. The dials on the EM5 Mk iii are a little stiffer than on the EM10 Mk ii and I like that. I found that I could knick the front control on my EM10 Mk ii too easily and have accidental exposure compensation. The mode dial makes this EM5iii more like the EM10 and EM1 series.
The move away from the metal top and bottom plate was a huge mistake. Thats one of the things that set Olympus apart was top build quality. The em10 mark 4 and em 5 mark 3 look cheap in comparison to the mark 2s.
The EM10 Mark ii is gorgeous. In the aesthetics and feel - and the finish is excellent on the chrome and black models. Feels better than the EM5 iii but I bought an EM5iii as an upgrade for the extra features once it was deeply discounted on the launch of the OM5. (The OM5 is also plastic!) I wanted to buy new for the warranty - but I would probably have been better off with the EM1 Mk ii secondhand. Difficult decision. I kind of like the look of the smaller camera bodies and the EM5iii takes my EM10ii batteries so I'm happy with it.
All mirrorless almost same experience for glass wearers as we can't place our eyes into the cup anyway. For me I take off my glasses and adjust the evf diopter to match eyes power.
Thanks for watching! I'm in no way saying don't buy em5 iii just stating these are the things that bugs me coming from em5 ii. Yes the eye piece rubber is flimsy loose no idea if it's only my unit or standard for all. Build & fit finish em5 ii is way ahead. I've no doubt the image & video of em5 iii should be better than em5 ii though. If you need 4k video & pro capture then go for em5 iii else em5 ii should be a great buy now.
Granted the tripod mount seems to be a weak point but what’s wrong with a polycarbonate outer body? Think about the Dyson vacuum, it’s made of polycarbonate, a strong, durable, lightweight material that takes one hell of a beating. Sure, it feels nice to hold an all metal camera but I totally understand why they chose polycarbonate.
@@RichartAsia I really don't think that that's the future. I would never got myself into Olympus system if EM5 mark1 (my first Olympus camera) would have been a plastic one.
I try not to buy any camera that uses plastic. Plastic is just a way to pay forward to the petro chemical industry and compared to my OM-1, OM-2N film and E-M5 II digital (which I chose over the III for the metal body) plastic doesn’t look or feel as premium.
Composite feels much better to me. Plus way lighter. I mostly use small primes anyway. If I’m a journalist at a war maybe I would seek metal because dents don’t break camera. And if I want to pound nails, I’ll grab my old vintage Nikon F2as. ツ
Thanks for video. I think you may need a better mic, I find it hard to hear what you're saying without turning up the volume very high. Hope you come out with more videos.
I've just bought an used EM5 mark II and I truly believe that that's the last genuine camera of the EM5 line. Both EM5 markIII and OM5 feel more like the successors of EM10.
Yup they added a smaller battery for a new camera that is shooting 4k video so it burns out fast. Wished they remained the ori EM5 battery at least so I won't need to buy more batteries to carry 2 sets on outdoor shoots. Thanks for watching!
i only watching hahha...coming from a casual camera user...the very cheap secondhnad emd5 mark i shocked me because of the build..the solid build is not a gimmick haha..
@@RichartAsia my reason was to not to change mk2 cause twice the price change between models. It simply not worth it if you don't own something like 300mm f/2.8 ...
they must have been so high designing this EM5iii, wrong move switching to plastic and downgrading the battery and discarding the extended battery grip
The battery was the reason I didn't buy the 5Mark III if they left the 5Mark II battery so I would buy it. That's how I left Olympus. He does everything against customers.😀
HK and others have made hand guns, shooting hi power rounds, out of plastic for a couple of decades. I am sure it is good enough for a camera that shoots photos. Get over it and move on.
I think Olympus nailed it correctly with a the Mark ii versions of the EM10, EM5 and EM1. They were also all metal bodied. Since then, they went a bit awry, except with the EM1 Mk iii.
Yep, making #1 feel more 'premium' by forcing #2 and #3 to look more 'unpremium'. Not good
I like E-M5 iii , better for everything. Lighter weight and composite feels better in my hands.
The buttons are much firmer and out of the way, so not to get accidentally changed.
But it’s the inside that matters most, and the Mark III is much more advanced.
Phase detection focus. EM1-X sensor. 20 MP. “High Resolution Mode”. 240 SLO-MO. 💁🏻♀️💕
I am one of those who suffered from a bottom plate crack from using a Peak Design clip in the tripod mount. I specifically bought this camera for outdoor use during hiking due to the marketing as an ‘adventure’ camera. I should have watched this video before buying! I have since replaced it with an E-M1 MarkIII.
Yes they should've kept em5 ii body type alloy
@@RichartAsia Totally agree.
E-M5 iii feels much better in my hands. The composite body is nice.
Plus I mostly shoot small primes. 14mm. 15mm 17mm 20mm 45mm 💁🏻♀️
For tripod use just get the after market Haoge Grip with the built in Arca Swiss mount.
9:30 The smaller battery seems to align the EM1 Mk iii more with EM10 users rather than as an EM5 Mk ii upgrade. The battery is the same as in the EM10 Mk ii for instance. It makes the EM5 Mk iii more of an upgrade for an EM10. There is a lowering of the status of this EM5 Mk iii compared to the Mk ii. Then all these features have been carried over to the OM5.
Smaller battery but same number of photos per full charge, leading to lighter weight camera. This camera is geared towards portability and pocketability, makes sense to me.
Great review! Many different observations that other reviewers miss. Especially with the anodised finish bit. As a metallurgist and materials scientist I appreciate that. I really can't imagine why anyone would want a silver metallic finish on a plastic camera or lens!
Thanks for support!
Regarding the base and tripod screw mount, already some mark III users have cracked bases around the mount. Appears there is no metal frame attached to mount, support and camera. Very risky especially for tripod users and those that attach a strap to the tripod mount! Thanks.
That's my cause of concern too when using the pro lenses for nature photography. Also heat from shooting in 4K should be better dissipated with magnesium alloy body than composite plastic. Thanks for watching!
Richart Asia for 45 dollars you can have a grip extension and a mount for permanent quick attaching to a tripod, and it gives you battery access.
I have a G9 for just over a year and got this one several weeks ago. Making it from a tough plastic was a great idea and I don’t really see using my G9 anymore except for serious work. The EM5 is very intuitive for me and quite enjoyable to carry all day, even if I’m not using a prime and my 12-40 pro. Video I don’t do but if I did then it would be the G9 probably.
And people still believe the move to all plastic build was to save weight and not to save on cost which it obviously was.
What do you recommend me getting? I have the budget for the markIII but its almost like the markII is better.
Mkiii it's good if you're not those that must have a metal type body
12:09 I'm not sure about the two value dials. The dials on the EM5 Mk iii are a little stiffer than on the EM10 Mk ii and I like that. I found that I could knick the front control on my EM10 Mk ii too easily and have accidental exposure compensation. The mode dial makes this EM5iii more like the EM10 and EM1 series.
Did you do the comparison outside? Is the link anywhere here?
The move away from the metal top and bottom plate was a huge mistake. Thats one of the things that set Olympus apart was top build quality. The em10 mark 4 and em 5 mark 3 look cheap in comparison to the mark 2s.
The EM10 Mark ii is gorgeous. In the aesthetics and feel - and the finish is excellent on the chrome and black models. Feels better than the EM5 iii but I bought an EM5iii as an upgrade for the extra features once it was deeply discounted on the launch of the OM5. (The OM5 is also plastic!) I wanted to buy new for the warranty - but I would probably have been better off with the EM1 Mk ii secondhand. Difficult decision. I kind of like the look of the smaller camera bodies and the EM5iii takes my EM10ii batteries so I'm happy with it.
You are 100% correct.
@@davebellamy4867 I agree 100%. I love how the E-M10 Mark 2 feels in the hand more than E-M5 Mark 2.
Which camera is better for someone who wears glasses?
All mirrorless almost same experience for glass wearers as we can't place our eyes into the cup anyway. For me I take off my glasses and adjust the evf diopter to match eyes power.
G9!
My concern about viewfinder loose? Could you elaborate more, are you saying dont buy markiii not as good as mark ii. Thanks much
Thanks for watching! I'm in no way saying don't buy em5 iii just stating these are the things that bugs me coming from em5 ii. Yes the eye piece rubber is flimsy loose no idea if it's only my unit or standard for all. Build & fit finish em5 ii is way ahead. I've no doubt the image & video of em5 iii should be better than em5 ii though. If you need 4k video & pro capture then go for em5 iii else em5 ii should be a great buy now.
@@RichartAsia Plus -> the same E-M1-X sensor. 20MP. Phase Detection auto focus.
Slo-Mo. 240fps. High Resolution mode.
Granted the tripod mount seems to be a weak point but what’s wrong with a polycarbonate outer body? Think about the Dyson vacuum, it’s made of polycarbonate, a strong, durable, lightweight material that takes one hell of a beating. Sure, it feels nice to hold an all metal camera but I totally understand why they chose polycarbonate.
Either way that's the future most brands moving to Composite materials as metals are pricey
polycarbonate still cracks, it warps on temperature change
@@RichartAsia I really don't think that that's the future. I would never got myself into Olympus system if EM5 mark1 (my first Olympus camera) would have been a plastic one.
I try not to buy any camera that uses plastic. Plastic is just a way to pay forward to the petro chemical industry and compared to my OM-1, OM-2N film and E-M5 II digital (which I chose over the III for the metal body) plastic doesn’t look or feel as premium.
Composite feels much better to me. Plus way lighter. I mostly use small primes anyway.
If I’m a journalist at a war maybe I would seek metal because dents don’t break camera.
And if I want to pound nails, I’ll grab my old vintage Nikon F2as. ツ
Thanks for video. I think you may need a better mic, I find it hard to hear what you're saying without turning up the volume very high. Hope you come out with more videos.
Thanks for the tip!
Sounds fine to me. Not like some loud American slang voice. ツ
Does Em-5 mk2 has phase detection mode of focusing?
Nope only E-M5 iii
I've just bought an used EM5 mark II and I truly believe that that's the last genuine camera of the EM5 line. Both EM5 markIII and OM5 feel more like the successors of EM10.
Mark ii better package, better looks. Too much plastic this revision.
Yup agreed!
Batteries are the same type as still produced E-M10 series.
Yup they added a smaller battery for a new camera that is shooting 4k video so it burns out fast. Wished they remained the ori EM5 battery at least so I won't need to buy more batteries to carry 2 sets on outdoor shoots. Thanks for watching!
Great comparison, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
i only watching hahha...coming from a casual camera user...the very cheap secondhnad emd5 mark i shocked me because of the build..the solid build is not a gimmick haha..
don't buy EM5iii, buy the EM1ii roughly same specs, prices but metal build. Em5iii is crap
Sadly got the EM5 iii cause needed the 4K video part. Body & button wise still prefer EM5 ii.
@@RichartAsia as if EM1ii doesn't have 4k
“Roughly same specs” 🤣🤣🤣
The "proCapture" is reason enough to put my beloved EM5 Mark II on e-bay
My reason was 4K videos & the IBIS.... thanks for watching!
@@RichartAsia my reason was to not to change mk2 cause twice the price change between models. It simply not worth it if you don't own something like 300mm f/2.8 ...
E-M1-X sensor. 20MP. High Resolution mode. 240fps slow mo. Phase Detection. 4k
Crappy cheap design and too expensive. Tripod mount already failed on some users.
they must have been so high designing this EM5iii, wrong move switching to plastic and downgrading the battery and discarding the extended battery grip
The battery was the reason I didn't buy the 5Mark III if they left the 5Mark II battery so I would buy it. That's how I left Olympus. He does everything against customers.😀
HK and others have made hand guns, shooting hi power rounds, out of plastic for a couple of decades. I am sure it is good enough for a camera that shoots photos. Get over it and move on.
Roger that. Bravo mate. Composite for the win.!!
Can only afford to watch lor 🤭
Thanks for support bro almost 1K soon hahahaha
No wonder Olympus has to sell off its imaging division. They treat users like idiots.
Thanks for watching!
That was a bit tedious. You could have covered everything in 5 minutes.