I remember York being put together, it was amazing seeing all the engines around 2 turntables and the platform exhibitions in the other hall. The two combined don't come anywhere close - too much dispersed to other locations.
It was great that your camera was on a broom handle and were able to get some in cab film, but how brilliant would it be next time if you could get some IN WAGON or HOPPER pictures? I bet there are many people, young and old, that haven’t a clue what they look like? Thanks for posting!!
Basically what I thought it was going to be, glorified storage shed for exhibits that aren’t glossy or glamorous enough for York, fair enough you’d struggle to interpret some of those things for people, but others could have a useful operating future or deserve to be front and centre, the austerity and 08 for starters
The new hall looks fine, and I will try and visit it, but I wish York still had most of the National Collection. I live about 40 minutes from York, and I have fond memories of seeing locos at the NRM that are no longer there, and things like turntable demonstrations and rides around the yard that they aren’t doing at the moment. Hopefully after all these renovations are done the NRM will get a bit better.
Just went today. Whoever designed both the floor layout and the flooring shouldn’t be allowed to do any construction work, period. -polished concrete isn’t gonna look shiny forever, i’d give it a year or two at most. -the aisles are too thin, which is important for my next point -The way that they cut the concrete means that it has tapered down edges. All it takes is one person to walk backwards and bang, instant hospital trip, nearly saw that (one time being me) 3 times on my visit. -no benches, but this issue is apparently being adressed. -not just the flooring thats poorly thought out, but the white walls. Walk into the building, walk right, and look at the wall next to it. You’ll see what i mean. -when i went, one of the digital information things was already broken. For a museum that usually has a great track record when it comes to things like that (i.e the signal game and the shunting game), it’s disappointing to see. -now onto the whole building; it feels like everythings in a bubble. Great if your trying to take measurements to make a model, for actually enjoying the contents, not so much. The lack of windows, while understandable, make the whole building feel sterile, and more like a modern art gallery than a museum. -Externally, it’s very obvious the design was just made with buzz-words to attract the investors at Durham council. ‘Wild flowers’, ‘event space’, etc. Very obvious if you look at the plans on the website. -The worst problem by far, is the lack of external rail access. This means that, if anything needs to be moved in or out, it has to be done so via lorry, which is alot harder than simply shunting via rail. This is a problem because it means that the shed will stagnate, and visitors won’t actually visit it, as new exhibits would be rare. In conclusion, the whole affair just seems to be just ‘we need somewhere to put stuff, and this way we can make Durham council pay for it’, and some significant bad design choices have basically made the building have a lifespan of literally a few months at most.
…and that’s not even including the lack of facilities in the building, engaging activities, or the wider redevelopment scheme’s utterly awful play area, which isn’t even railway related, and is just a severe downgrade from the previous version. And the fact that, and i have no idea why, they decide to do all this work at the WORST TIME HUMANLY POSSIBLE; Shildon’s actual full running line is still cut off (although, active work is happening to this; they were actually weedkilling the track down today!), york is getting it’s own renovation, which means 1/2 closed, and head of steam in darlington is fully shut. The best approach for the science museum to take would be just to have stuck to updating york, then focus their efforts on shildon next.
@@KevsTrains Thanks very much, It was my Great Grandfathers engine -He used to talk about 1621 when he was a driver and then I didn't contact that he was talking about the 1621! I did ask if I could lokk on the footplate but the request was met with a resounding NO.
It’s the new hall that’s just opened, lots of hype over how great it will be, but a lot of disappointed members of the public. Basically been filled with all the wagons that were stored outside. The main hall however, is still fantastic and a further video will be uploaded soon.
Looking by the video you can't get a decent view to take a good photo or video ! Looks like they have just crammed as much as they can inside the new shed without any thought for photographers or for the non railway enthusiast to be able to get a reasonable all round view of the exhibits. Anyway that's my thoughts from the southern end of the world !
It’s focused on the industrial history and on wagons, not something that’s gonna attract a lot of visitors, which seemed to be the general opinion of people who attended. Not sure it’s £8 million well spent.
@KevsTrains yeah I can not see where the 8 million has been spent tbh a d it would of certainly been better used on improving the local roads or even building a dentists or new school
Like looking at stuffed tigers in a museum. Heritage railways are like a zoo. Locomotion needs more AV. Videos of old trains and infrastructure. Sensory experiences, mocked up loco cabs with sound and 'steam' and 'smoke' and a 'hot' fire. With a whistle handle to pull. And rams under the floor to shake and tilt. It was so boring for me despite me being so knowledgeable. Kids must have not had a clue. Its like a bus museum run by bus nuts. Just buses in a shed. Very disappointing.
Looks great and can only be for the better good. Shildon was already a good place to go, not overcrowded just great. I am a fan of it.
Will try to get up there to see it. Suspect the money was limited so the uniform layout.
£8 million, that’s a lot of money to spend.
Nice video of the new museum, looks really good, especially lots of things to see.
Thank you
I remember York being put together, it was amazing seeing all the engines around 2 turntables and the platform exhibitions in the other hall. The two combined don't come anywhere close - too much dispersed to other locations.
Luckily Shildon have some fantastic locos in the main hall, look at my other videos to see around there.
It was great that your camera was on a broom handle and were able to get some in cab film, but how brilliant would it be next time if you could get some IN WAGON or HOPPER pictures? I bet there are many people, young and old, that haven’t a clue what they look like? Thanks for posting!!
Thank you for your feedback; I’ll certainly give it a damn good go.
Shildon was a wagon works so the exhibits are in the right place, great video thanks for posting.
You’re very welcome
Basically what I thought it was going to be, glorified storage shed for exhibits that aren’t glossy or glamorous enough for York, fair enough you’d struggle to interpret some of those things for people, but others could have a useful operating future or deserve to be front and centre, the austerity and 08 for starters
Pretty much my thoughts, I honestly think the lack of public said a lot
The new hall looks fine, and I will try and visit it, but I wish York still had most of the National Collection. I live about 40 minutes from York, and I have fond memories of seeing locos at the NRM that are no longer there, and things like turntable demonstrations and rides around the yard that they aren’t doing at the moment. Hopefully after all these renovations are done the NRM will get a bit better.
We can but hope.
Seems to be the direction of both national railway musuems, bare white walls in a cramped space
I’d agree, compact and no room
Just went today. Whoever designed both the floor layout and the flooring shouldn’t be allowed to do any construction work, period.
-polished concrete isn’t gonna look shiny forever, i’d give it a year or two at most.
-the aisles are too thin, which is important for my next point
-The way that they cut the concrete means that it has tapered down edges. All it takes is one person to walk backwards and bang, instant hospital trip, nearly saw that (one time being me) 3 times on my visit.
-no benches, but this issue is apparently being adressed.
-not just the flooring thats poorly thought out, but the white walls. Walk into the building, walk right, and look at the wall next to it. You’ll see what i mean.
-when i went, one of the digital information things was already broken. For a museum that usually has a great track record when it comes to things like that (i.e the signal game and the shunting game), it’s disappointing to see.
-now onto the whole building; it feels like everythings in a bubble. Great if your trying to take measurements to make a model, for actually enjoying the contents, not so much. The lack of windows, while understandable, make the whole building feel sterile, and more like a modern art gallery than a museum.
-Externally, it’s very obvious the design was just made with buzz-words to attract the investors at Durham council. ‘Wild flowers’, ‘event space’, etc. Very obvious if you look at the plans on the website.
-The worst problem by far, is the lack of external rail access. This means that, if anything needs to be moved in or out, it has to be done so via lorry, which is alot harder than simply shunting via rail. This is a problem because it means that the shed will stagnate, and visitors won’t actually visit it, as new exhibits would be rare.
In conclusion, the whole affair just seems to be just ‘we need somewhere to put stuff, and this way we can make Durham council pay for it’, and some significant bad design choices have basically made the building have a lifespan of literally a few months at most.
…and that’s not even including the lack of facilities in the building, engaging activities, or the wider redevelopment scheme’s utterly awful play area, which isn’t even railway related, and is just a severe downgrade from the previous version. And the fact that, and i have no idea why, they decide to do all this work at the WORST TIME HUMANLY POSSIBLE; Shildon’s actual full running line is still cut off (although, active work is happening to this; they were actually weedkilling the track down today!), york is getting it’s own renovation, which means 1/2 closed, and head of steam in darlington is fully shut. The best approach for the science museum to take would be just to have stuck to updating york, then focus their efforts on shildon next.
Fantastic and honest thoughts there, I was very much of the same opinion, it’s a glorified storage shed.
It’s very likely, if this is York, that I will save going to Somerset and Dorset until next year and take a trip to Yorkshire instead.
Shildon is in County Durham
It's OK, at least the Q7 is now under cover along with the Toffee Apple and the Super D. Will visit it next month-the carer doesn't know this yet!
They are, no longer sat in the rain
@@KevsTrains Did you see NER 1621 when you were there?
@@frenchsteam7356 actually didn’t, wonder if she’s at York.
@@frenchsteam7356 I’m correcting myself, I’ve just looking through my photos too, yes she’s in there, on the other side of the 5MT
@@KevsTrains Thanks very much, It was my Great Grandfathers engine -He used to talk about 1621 when he was a driver and then I didn't contact that he was talking about the 1621! I did ask if I could lokk on the footplate but the request was met with a resounding NO.
What a glorious museum!! Or is it a location in which trains are stored overnight?
It’s the new hall that’s just opened, lots of hype over how great it will be, but a lot of disappointed members of the public. Basically been filled with all the wagons that were stored outside. The main hall however, is still fantastic and a further video will be uploaded soon.
Looking by the video you can't get a decent view to take a good photo or video ! Looks like they have just crammed as much as they can inside the new shed without any thought for photographers or for the non railway enthusiast to be able to get a reasonable all round view of the exhibits. Anyway that's my thoughts from the southern end of the world !
Similar to walking round an engine shed in the old days
It looks like it’s part of the National Railway Museum in York. Am I right?
It’s their second site, located in Shildon, County Durham
And no secure bike parking? Really!?
Not sure if there’s any at the main building
And by the way, if this is the NRM in York, why is there still graffiti on the EWS Class 37?
It’s not York
It’s also not a Class 37 but a coal hopper. Arguably quite in keeping as they very quickly were not pristine and provided the perfect ‘canvas’
Needs 2 cafe’s and shops within 50 feet of each other and an overpriced play cafe!
Luckily Shildon isn’t like that.
from what i can see in you footage theres nothing new in there that ive not already seen at the museum
It’s focused on the industrial history and on wagons, not something that’s gonna attract a lot of visitors, which seemed to be the general opinion of people who attended. Not sure it’s £8 million well spent.
@KevsTrains yeah I can not see where the 8 million has been spent tbh a d it would of certainly been better used on improving the local roads or even building a dentists or new school
Like looking at stuffed tigers in a museum. Heritage railways are like a zoo. Locomotion needs more AV. Videos of old trains and infrastructure. Sensory experiences, mocked up loco cabs with sound and 'steam' and 'smoke' and a 'hot' fire. With a whistle handle to pull. And rams under the floor to shake and tilt. It was so boring for me despite me being so knowledgeable. Kids must have not had a clue.
Its like a bus museum run by bus nuts. Just buses in a shed. Very disappointing.
I’d agree with that