A Song of Ice and Fire: The She-Wolves of Winterfell
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2018
- There is an adventure in Westeros that we will probably not get: The She-Wolves of Winterfell, a Dunk and Egg tale about their travels north. But what are that story about? What plot did we miss? Well, I'll outline this story and what likely would have occurred in it.
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GRRM hints at a Story in like one sentence
-Preston takes a look at a family tree
"Alright I know the whole plot"
@Braxton Brodie How much?
It’s better than that. Preston read a second hand account of something GRRM said and can still work out what the plot is!
Think of how deep and well planned George's world is for that to be possible
George, please, Preston is now doing videos on stuff you haven't released yet.
Er.. that's what he's been doing for years. Unless WoW is out and I missed it?
Nadav Drewe well technically most of the stuff he’s covered for WoW is released, they are released sample chapters. There’s a few snippets fans grabbed off computer screens and readings but the majority were released by Martin and his publisher as a teaser for WoW to sate the fans appetites. So no he hasn’t been covering unreleased stuff, at least not extensively.
This is really just me being a nit picky douchebag though.
NukeMarine LMAO
NukeMarine
Its what ad revenues do to ppl
NukeMarine LOL.
Only Preston could spoil a book not even written for me
This is almost an ebook of a book that never was. You outdid yourself this time, Preston!
is this your audition tape to ghost write TWOW? because we don't need callbacks. you've got the job.
Justin Case the problem is, if he wrote it, who would make the theories?
The Blackfish lives yet, my friend. There's the only man I intend to call my King. THE KING OF THE NERDS!
Take my money!
You predicted the future!
It aged well.
I’d love to see Egg secretly searching for the Crypts or the supposed stash of Eggs left by Queen Alysanne’s Dragon, hinting at his eventual downfall.
Or the eggs supposedly belonging to Vermax and Jacaerys Velaryon
Amazing how you can look at a family tree and see all of the conflict
All the possible conflict* Maybe all the she-wolves are great friends and all support Donnor. Would make for a boring story though
@@freekmulder3662 yeah we need people like joffery to spice things up
Title says She-Wolves of Winterfell, intro music says 90s medical sitcom.
yeah that felt extremely out of place
Marc Shanahan so true
Lol nicce
Title implies 70's bdsm porn.
+Holypikemanz What is wrong with you?
"Too cold up there for me", said Ser Maynard a.k.a Brynden Rivers a.k.a Bloodraven omg omg omg little does he know he's going there soon and he's going to be planted and become a tree omg.
Proving that Uno reverse cards are canon in westeros
Preston could teach Westeros History at the university level. I'd love a major in that.
I really like your detective work. However, it only increases my respect for GRRM, for planning it all ahead creating a gigantic, coherent world, where family-trees, distances etc. matter...
edi planning ahead .. in the first pressing of game of thrones the dates of one of the targaryens is wrong as if he was born in that he would be like 5 when he produced an heir... its s well known story
. Elio Garcia pointed out out to Martin who then fixed it.
Darth Fantazzi I'm glad George has Elio Garcia.. and I'd love it if George would consult with hardcore fan Preston about possible solutions for his plot knots...
Derfelkardan the work that elio and Linda does deserves much respect... but it's kinda easy to criticize and write in a world someone else has created.. I totally agree on the plot knots I've been saying for years he opened up too many new plots that need closing .. every chapter in dance leaves us on a cliffhanger and none of the sample chapters say nothing of the 2 big deaths at the end. And there's been 9 samples I believe around 200 or so pages.. that's a lot of pages without hearing of kevan Lannister or Jon.
Dragon Fox had a bad day?
Dragon Fox ???
I really like the Dunk&Egg stories. They are short, but a lot of fun to read so I hope we eventually get more of them!
We definitely will, George confirmed on his blog.
Sorry. I'm George's physician. Hes older than 40 which means he'll die any moment now :(
Black Brit With A Clean Room - he also said that WoW will be out 2014 if I'm not mistaken
Black Brit With A Clean Room I don't like to shit on George over much, but I don't put alot o faith in what he promises to release.
Dunk and Egg shows how SEXIST you are. Why do warriors have to be men? At least thats what bitch ass Preston thinks. "sexism sexism sexism". Man hating beta males.
Lonnie and the Karstarks sounds like a great '50s skiffle band.
Frey and the Fosoways
sounds better
That's not the story, there were no "clouts on the ear" in that story. You need a lot of clouts on the ear for a Dunk and Egg story.
pikkdogs
Technically we just need a lot of threats of a “clout in the ear.” No actual clouting necessary. 😉
This comment is certified PERFECT 😂😆😝😆😄
Thank you for posting this today. My dog died last night and I only just found out from my mom. Your videos really cheer me up.
Also thank you for admitting to be GRRM by posting info on the book.
My condolences.
sorry to hear about this buddy. i know how rough it can be.
I’m sorry.
I‘m sorry for your loss. Even if my condolences are three years late :(
One thing that came to mind seeing that family tree: what happened to all of the Starks? Are there no male cousins named Stark left by the time GoT starts? And by A Dance With Dragons with everyone assumed dead there's a fake Arya, but you'd think there might be real cousins being maneuvered around like pawns with Winterfell in ruins. Maybe I just missed something.
Even a month later, after having watched this a good 20 times, I'm still really impressed with this, and, I feel like more or less this is the story GRRM has in mind!
I disagree that Lorra Royce would have had a harder time in the North than Catelyn did. We know that the Royce are descendants of the First Men and were known as the Bronze Kings in the Vale. We know that they fought against the Andal invaders but were eventually defeated. And I believe we can assume that the Royce remember the Old Way and the Old God if they still don't follow them. The words of House Royce are "We Remember", remember what? I always thought that it is referencing the ways of the First Men.
It seems the house Royce hold some reverence to the First Men, they wear bronze armor adorned with runes of the first men. Ser Waymar Royce left the Vale to join the Night's Watch, an interesting choice for a young southern knight when we know that few in the south hold the Night's Watch in high regard. We also know that Yohn Royce wanted the Vale to commit forces to Robb Stark's cause. Whether this is because Yohn and Eddard were friendly or because Yohn's disgust of the Lannisters or something more. I always thought it was somewhat suspicious that House Royce kept showing up all over the story. We have Waymar in the Night's Watch, Robar off with Renly, and we had Kyle Royce as a friend of Brandon Stark who was killed by Aerys.
Preston if you read this I am curious of your thoughts about Edric Dayne. I doubt there is enough material there to do a full video but I find the character intriguing. I feel that he might have been planed to take up Dawn and become the Sword of the Morning after the five year time skip but since that was tossed aside I can't think of any reason he is in the story. Unless that is his purpose, to throw readers off and give us something to ponder.
The Royces definitely follow the Faith of the Seven. The house is filled with knights.
As for Edric, I'm not sure his function. It could be as simple as a chance to tell a little bit of the Ashara and Starfall story. It's tough to say. GRRM has been super tight lipped about Daynes.
Preston Jacobs dang I thought I finally caught Preston slipping lol... I could've sworn that House Royce worshipped the old gods but I suppose I just conflated that with them being first men. Great video!!
I love your quotes like " this is gonna fly like a lead brick"
I was missing you like the dornish miss the rain
Too soon dude, too soon.
Do you think that Sara Snow's bastard child with Jace could be involved in this story somehow? Fire & Blood seems to hint that they had a relationship and I think that the "clutch" of eggs left behind at Winterfell could have been a Targ fetus. I could imagine Egg running into his distant relative in Winterfell.
It's certainly not impossible 🥚🥚🥚
My mind warps a little bit that GRRM can have this much planned out years in advance. But the family trees are there, and the fan comments. it's just mind boggling.
What really amazes me is that he can obviously have so much planned so far ahead and yet still manage to need 8+ years to put out Winds. Hell, he wrote the Mercy chapter almost 20 years ago and we still dont have the book it's supposed to be in!
I‘m not sure all of this is necessarily planned, more like George comes up with all these little tidbits slowly over time and in the end the story is more or less formed. Could be he looked at the family tree and noticed there were a bunch of widows at Winterfell at the same time and he thought „wouldn‘t that make for an interesting story?“. Hopefully some day he‘ll actually get to tell it.
He admits that not all of it is pre-planned. On occasion he'll run into a continuity error for which a couple friends/fellow authors help him ghost write or fact check. A World of Ice and Fire is written primarily by these two individuals.
It's a combination of planning, seeing where the story so far and the natural consequences of motovations and worldbuilding lead.
He likely jots down an idea that interests him as far as the Dunk and Egg novellas are concerned, and then he either works on it bit by bit or waits to finish one large project before devoting his time to D&E so it could be that this comes to him piecemeal, or he sits down and plans it out when Winds gives him writer's block.
Thanks for all the work you do Preston!
Preston they need to give you a honorary Iron Throne! This was just freakin Great! Thanks again 🔥😎
The consideration about Old Nan's age is of paramount importance and puts to bed a vast quantity of theories regarding Ser Duncan and Nan imagined romance!...
In some way there's a connection when the statures of Dunc and Hodor are taken into account, so if a genetic bond is present, it cannot be direct!...
I mean, if Hodor is a Ser Duncan descendant, it appears Old Nan had probably to interact with a descendant of the tall knight!
No doubt I'll be lynched for saying this, but wouldn't it be better if George had a co-author to help him finish his to-do list - at least if Gods forbid he dies we'll have a chance of seeing The She-Wolves of Winterfell with said co-author picking up George's pen.
There I've said it ... now excuse me while I go barricade myself against the lynch mob ...
Lionstar16 you’re absolutely right, if he got people to help him write AWOIAF then why not have someone co-author his other works? He obviously has too many ideas for his own good and cannot stay writing one story at a time, but it’s getting fucking ridiculous at this stage
It's a good idea, but each writer has their own writing style and with someone like GRRM who isn't really open to outside ideas for his novels, it would probably delay the future books even more, granted the dunk and egg tales are shorter than the ASOIAF books but GRRM loves dropping clues into those stories that foreshadow future events in the main series. That said, we can't rule out the possibility of it happening either, though I wouldn't hold my breath for the Southron Sword (aka The She wolves of winterfell) having a coauthor
And usually when someone tries to write stories set in someone else's universe, they are bad very very bad!
What?! Maeve has a daughter? I didnt know that
Josef Votoupal Westworld spoilers? Why?
George was like "Damn, I need some random names for Kids to complete my family trees... let me role some dice... cause who really cares..."
Preston is like "Let's make a theory around the fact that one of those Kids is named like the character in my other theories... cause George would never assing random names to anybody"...
As much as I love this... it is getting out of hand right here...
I think this family tree will play a role later in ASOIAF. Think about it, we already have tons of Riverland Houses with no male heirs. Plus, heavy casualties among many House throughout Westeros. By the end of the wars for the Iron Throne, Dawn and who knows what else; few of these houses will remain. This means we will be seeing weak claims turn into strong ones. Any thoughts on that?
this is a great idea for a video. You should probably make it actually! why not
SublimeCS yeah what if most houses die out and the frets are left. They basically have a claim to everything.
So if all the stark kids are dead then house waynewood of the vale inherits winter fell. Since everyone thinks the starks are dead...
Interesting style of video. I'd like to see more speculation of potential stories
"Preston Jacobs has added a new vid.." GIVE IT TO ME NOOWWWWW!
Last time I was this early she never called me back. AAAYYYOOOOOOOOOO!
Eons I slept are you Tamil?
Thanks for this!
Preston, have you heard about a friend of George, who did an interview somewhere, stating that George asked her whether or not she has ever had the experience of "...killing off a character that you now realize you needed...?"?
George stated that he was stuck with this issue. She asked him about how his writing has been going...This was about The Winds of Winter. Now, the friend did not state WHEN George asked her this, or when this conversation took place. It could have been YEARS ago for all I know... She just said this in passing. I just want to bring this to your attention, in case you did not know.......
This is perhaps like the Mereenese knot problem for A Dance with Dragons that took George YEARS to undo... Thoughts?
Intriguing! Thanks for posting this anecdote.
Yes, very intriguing! The friend in question is author Diana Gabaldon (Outlander series)
Emma J. Quinn It would be really interesting to know when he said that. For all we know he could have meant Catelyn, which he resolved. Though my guess would be he meant Oberyn because he is pretty important and probably can't be resurrected as his brain is pudding.
Interesting. Lady Stoneheart did seem like a contrived forced plot development to me, and I was puzzled as to why he'd undo such a good death. Oberyn does make more sense. But geez this series is so full of characters who *seemed* to have an important purpose but died. GRRM really likes to undermine the idea that everyone has a destiny. :-(
JBTechCon It can't be Stoneheart since she died and was brought back in the same book.
I already feel more connected and emotionally invested in these characters you described, than in TV show versions of canonical characters.
I can't even imagine the amount of work you put into this video, incredible, as always. You never fail to impress us, Preston.
Preston Jacobs: Raider of the lost ASOIAF!
Thank you for an original video concept!!! A Dunk and Egg video on top that 💜❤💚 thank u
I was really looking forward to the next dunc and egg.. Thank you sir preston of the Ytubes for laying this one out for us just in case we never get it!
I didn't know i needed this but I'm so glad you made it.
I KNEW A VIDEO WAS COMING TODAY! But I didn't think it was going to be a continuation of this series. I thought I would have to wait for this another month. Thanks Preston!
This was a very insightful video with some good research into the past houses of the North. Great job!
Thank you all your work. So insightful. Amazing. Thank you.
Another glorious Sunday! Thanks Preston :)
That sounds convincing. You should write a book!
Maximum Fun PJ is writing one.
It's mentioned in a blurb video maybe 3 minutes long, he published the video close to a year ago.
Great video. Doing the research I don’t have the time for, thanks Preston.
YESSSS new vid, my day is instantly better
Now I really want GRRM to write this story just to see whether Preston is right!
Did Dunk ever find his dad? Was Ser Arlan of Pennytree a Bloodraven agent? Did Dunk daddy mess around with Old Nan when she was just Nan?!
Old Nan arrived to Winterfell after Dunk's visit. And Bran's Winterfell visions are about Starks not other people so Preston theorising the girl with Dunk is Arsa Stark makes more sense, and the pregnant lady wanting vengeance would be Serena Stark.
Thank you for going to the trouble to recolor the models for the characters, really great stuff
This is the best one yet. Awesome vid
I hope one day aliens discover Preston Jakob’s videos and nothing else about humanity
Great! You really never ceaseto amaze me Prez
I love how indepth you go. Keep it up
Excellent analysis, great video.
Easily your best video in a long time! It breaks my heart we likely won’t get much more dunk and egg. This story would have been super interesting.
As always - another truly excellent analysis Preston. I've been awaiting the "She Wolves" for several years and like everyone else we are simply at the mercy of George's glacial writing pace. Years ago George also mentioned in a Q&A that after "She Wolves" the working title for his 5th Dunk and Egg story was "The Village Hero" and involved an adventure Dunk & Egg get into on their journey back south through the Riverlands. I wonder if you have heard anything about this mysterious 5th story or what it might entail?
Love me some PJ on Sunday!! Thanx brother
PRESTON KING
Awesome! Twin Stark lords - YUSSSSS!! Great video, as usual.
Start lineage is sooo cloudy, but in my head I’ve went over this time and time again. I feel like one of the she-wolves was def a Blackwood.
Jesus, the start of this video makes it seem like Martin has already died. I'm not saying there's no chance of that happening before he finishes it, but I still hope he gets to finish the Dunk & Egg series.
Great analysis though. It sounds like it would be a fascinating story.
Goddamn Preston. GRRM says one thing off hand and you divined the entire plot of a novella that isn’t published yet. That’s goddamn impressive.
Pure genius! Fantastic deduction!
Grr Martin sends his regards
Sunday's are always my favorite bc I always forget that's when Preston usually uploads, so its always an awesome lazy Sunday surprise lol
Great job Preston!! Been doing a stream on Dunk and Egg stories. Heard there were 4. I'm blown away!! We're on The Sworn Sword right now💙💙✌
Now that's some crazy deduction skills.
Thank you very much for this material. I am very eager to read 'The She-Wolves of Winterfell' but as You said this story will probably never see the light. All the more thanks for the analysis. As always, it is meticulous and convincing. All the best from Gdańsk (Poland).
The cold never bothered me anyway
This will be a lot easier for him to write than DoS, no reason not to expect it's next after Winds. He'll probably turn to Dunk and Egg to avoid DoS in fact. ;p
That was amazing. This story would be great to see in book form to show the starks personal power struggle and possibly how winds of winter will be with jon and the wildings. Sansa and the vale. Rickon and the manderlys
Thank you Preston, very cool.
Thanks Preston! I was just looking up the status of the next Dunk & Egg story yesterday. Can't believe GRRM has another 4 D&E stories planned after She-Wolves, when he's never going to finish She-Wolves lol
Awesome. I’m very curious about she wolves so I’m loving this.
This is beautiful.
thank god Duncan/Old Nan theory is finally debunked
I love your work Preston. I hope you finish winds of winter one day
Dam you preston, now I want this story more than ever
Excited to watch this one later
Appreciate ya making a video on Dunk and Egg. Or as it’s officially known:Arriving in 2050(just after Winds)
This is now my head cannon
You're extremely good at this.....
19:40 - Maybe the way they convince her to move passed her hatred of Lonnel Snow is by finding out that he's not really a bastard son of her late husband. Lonnel IS built up as a Jon Snow parallel seemingly. So it wouldn't be too crazy to think that maybe he too was not really a bastard but somehow "adopted" by his father as such for some reason. A bit blatant maybe, but not crazy either.
This sounds so cool! I’m sad he won’t write it. I enjoyed your musings on it.
Preston, do you think there would be any hint in this story to what's going on with the Blackfyres? Dunk and Egg novellas seem to be involved with them and with the Targaryens in one way or the other.
Holy shizz bro this is legit!! I always wondered what the she-wolf story was about. I haven't heard anything about it, really ever. and the lineages are sometimes hard to follow but you broke it down and made it easy (as easy as possible ;) Congrats man, amazing work, very illuminating 👏👏
And i know this vid is old but i had to give u my 2 cents
P.S. I'd love to see some more stuff along these lines. Unknown eras of Planetos history. Or what was going on "here" when "this" was happening on the other side of the planet/continent
another preston video!!!!
So fucking impressed on how he can figure out vaguely a whole entire Dunk and Egg book lmfao
Great video, you made me want to read the actual story. Hope someone writes it someday
It will most likely come out between WoW and aSOS
Couldn’t Dunk have meet a girl named Nan (a girl from Brans perspective would be a girl, say 10).... that girl kisses him in front of a heart tree.... he tells her that he is to old for her.... Dunk returns to the North 22 Year’s later after delivering Blood-raven to the wall... meet a older Nan, now 32... they get busy.... have a kid.... that kid has kid (Hodor).... then dies is Roberts rebellion when he is in his 50’s.
Hodor was her grandson.
You should write a book of your own it’s crazy how you could dissect that situation without the book even being written yet
I just did a 16 hour shift at my nursing home. Thanks for this sweet sleep remedy! Sir Preston!
Great detective work, Preston, and thanks. Ideally this book would come out concurrent with Jon [Snow] prospectively rallying the North, and Sansa attaining power in ASOIAF. I fear that you may be right, however, about GRRM finishing everything, so I appreciate this work for yours. It will be a great read if GRRM ever finishes and releases it.
I agree, but this is reaching a certain level and Martin himself should be concerned by the reconstructions Mr Jacobs is developing. With info and analysis there are lots of things one can do, Mr Jacobs is like some professors, you never stop enjoying this kind of insight. Thank you Preston, and I insist, you may reach a perilous level of analytic «foresight» for the author and his ouvre, and that could be fun to see. No worries, though, there's no crime in it, as long as the info is public, you only have to make it coherent with the tone of the author...well, some musings, cheers from Spain
Preston: so it looks like Serena's whole life is about getting screwed over...
Me: oof, wonder what that's like 🙄
God I wish GRRM sees Preston's dedication and love for his work and hires him to help him with his workload.
Error on Serena and Sansa Stark in the family tree according to GRRM. Sansa is the eldest sister, Serena is the youngest.
This would make for a great story. Kinda wish Preston could help George write it.
You can be wrong about more than half of this but it is still very impressive to be able to infer all that you did from the scant information you had. I like the idea of the bastard that is part crannogmen using skinboats to mess up the ironborn, and Egg and Ronnel Stark becoming friends. Kudos
Great video
I so love the work you do for us Preston. Plz dont stop.
Also, first.
Didnt GRRM confirm Hodor was a descendant of Dunk ?
If it was not Old Nan, and was a Stark girl that would mean Hodor is a Stark ?! 😮