Ray's Garage: ZF 9HP48 and Chrysler 948TE
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2015
- ZF 9HP48 and Chrysler 948TE: The experts in Ray’s Garage review similarities and differences, and demonstrate a complete teardown.
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Great video! Thank you for this. It really helped me understand my transmission better.
Great video! VERY informative, thanks for posting.
Very good video. For your information, according to Mike Kirk (Chrysler’s director of axle, driveline, and manual transmissions), there were two main reasons for Chrysler’s changes to the ZF automatics. Chrisler production plant at Kokomo was already set up with its own tooling and robotics when this transaxle was inserted on the portfolio;so some changes were made to match Kokomo’s equipment and methods. Chrysler also needs many more transmissions than ZF plans to make. Design choices that make sense for production of 50,000 transmissions a year may not make sense for production of 200,000 per year.
My assumption is that the diferences are for production reasons and not to improve performance or reliability.
Gracias por la información sigan haciendo mas vídeos y mucho éxito para este canal ...!!!
Can you make a video on the reliability of the transmission? I've seen a lot of complaints that this transmission isn't working properly. It would be good to know if it's "fixable" and if in fact it's even worth fixing.
Wonderful video, thank you.
Chrysler initially used ZF built 9HP48s in some applications, but they were not like the Land Rover version with the solenoid/sensor connector coming through the case, nor did they have the cooler mounted on the case. The TCM was mounted the same way as it was on the 948TE too. There are multiple versions depending on engines and whether it has 4WD/AWD, but there are 2 variations essentially. Electronic shifter, and cable operated shifter. The valve body differs between the two, the electronic shift adding additional solenoids for the park system. The cable lever on the electronic shift version is the emergency park release in the case the vehicle is disabled in some way.
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a lot of info thanks, greetings from México
I've lifted my v.6 948TE, what are my options for changing final drive, and transfer case gearing with components from a tow package equipeed one, or am I better swapping to a 4.10 or 3.9 equipped Transaxle and rear PTU?
To clarify, the piece at 5:49 is not the F dog clutch; it is a sun gear which has teeth that engage with the dog clutch when it is hydraulically applied. The F dog is inside the output gear assembly hub, and moves up to engage those teeth on the sun gear, or down to disengage.
One clarifications, Chrysler uses both versions. The 948TE is Chrysler's primary ZF 9 speed, as it is used with their four-cylinder motors. But all CUSW V6 Chrysler cars use the stronger 9HP48.
Just from my looks at my (failed, under powertrain warranty) 9HP48 in my 200S V6, it is nearly identical to Land Rover's.
You are correct. I have a 2016 AWD 200C. Same as you
good point
Any info on a clutch rebuild kit for a 15 948te
Do you recommend that gearbox in petrol engine, for example Fiat 500x? Or it is a dead trap.
Do you guys know how much horse power the 948 te can take?
very interesting video
damm good video my friend
They also have different sized drain and fill plugs.
Hi, on the 9hp48, where is the fill plug for the transmission fluid? I apologize but as simple as the answer for experienced mechanic, i cannot find anything online. Pls help
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Does the differential assembly have a torsen style limited slip in it?
No it does not.
Jeep cherokee 2.2 75th anniversary: zf or 948te?
great work Thanks
+احمد محمد Thank you for watching!
Can we see something about 6l80 .
Thanks
+احمد محمد We just might have some ideas already in the works.
will the ZF 9HP48 fit in the 3.6 T&C? how much better is the ZF compair to the 62TE?
9 speeds are a lot better than 6 speeds my friend
They are both crap!!!Pastic pan???wow...only zf-s i trust are the ones they make for semis.I would take an aisin over one like these 2 any day
@@nicumarc5788 you don't have 1 single solitary clue what your even talking about.
Is it safe to use the CVTF+4 fluid for the 948TE?
No. ZF fluid only. Also CVT is for a Continuously Variable Transmission the 9hp 48 is not a CVT.
Can you make a video how to service/flush these transmissions?
You shouldnt unless you out of warranty...I explain servicing the 9 speed trans in a video series
Never flush only do drain and fills. There's a drain and fill plug. Filter is internal don't worry about that.
2017 Chrysler Pacifica - 9 Speed Automatic . There no information about what type of transmission fluid you have to use and how to check the transmission fluid level
The purpose of the video was to show the differences in the two transmissions.
The primary focus is to point out the fact that one needs to be aware that some parts are not interchangeable.
We also wanted the viewer to see what it takes to tear one down.
Having trouble with my trans on my jeep chch cherokee sport 2015. It surges or misses when changing gear giving a signal jolt. Only seems to be for 1 to 5th gears. Would a fluid change fix this or is it more to do with the computer. Thanks
We recommend that this vehicle be diagnosed by a dealer or transmission shop.
@@RaybestosGarage I have had the dealer and a trans shop look at it. Neither know the fault
Trying to find what ATF and how much goes in the box seems a big secret. May I ask you please?
Pull drain plug, 3-1/2 quarts to full on 948TE. ONLY Chrysler 8-9 speed transmission green fluid.
@@seatime674 ZF recommends a LifeGuard 9 fluid for these transmissions, why would you stick to the Mopar part which is LifeGuard 8?
@@bavarianblessed I'm not sure maybe eight or nine are comparable and compatible but on the 948TE which is all of the 2017 Pacificas and up you must only use the 8-9 speed Chrysler Mopar transmission fluid that's green as the owner's manual States.
Yes I understand there might be some compatible fluids and something else recommended but I talked to three different Techs and they say only use the 8-9 speed green Mopar fluid and seriously why would you use anything else, that is specific to the 948TE and in the actual engineered Chrysler manual.. This is a very upgraded Transmission with finely-tuned ports passages and solenoids so anything else I think might be a risk.
Those trans fit in a grand caravan???
Only a 4 geared planetary?
Given they're both from the same design, which is the better transmission?
These transmissions are similar, but not interchangeable. We don't have a preference between the two.
Raybestos Powertrain thanks. I wasn't sure if there was something specific about either that made you like or dislike it. I didn't realize there were physical differences; I thought only the software was different. How wrong was I?! :)
For the most part they are the same with the exception of the park system. The JLR is shift by wire and the Chrysler is mechanical PRND.
I have a 9HP48 on my 2016 200C AWD chrysler. How is that possible?
See my comment above posted earlier. The video is incorrect in that Chrysler uses both transmissions. FCA V6 models with the ZF 9 speed have the 9HP48 exclusively.
@@ChristopherPrice with just a simple search (at least in the jeep lineup), the cherokee and renegade both use 948te, while compass uses 9hp48
@@sothatsprettyneat not true Chrysler builds all the 9 speeds for all their vehicles now. When we first started making them, ZF supplied some to meet demand as our plants getting up to speed. We build fwd awd and 4wd 4 cyl and V6
FYI there is no transfer case. The chrysler units use a power transfer unit as a "transfer case"
Can you fix the problems that Chrysler doesn't seem to be able to fix.
HI IS THERE REALLY SPECIAL OIL GOES IN THESE TRANSMISSION
Great video and teardown - no wonder this transmission is so unreliable and one of the worst ever implemented.
It's not that bad
Calm down tiger these are great transmissions, stop being negative sheep
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I used to be a buyer of Chrysler products, no more.
Since the German's and now Italians bought them Chrysler has been saddled with horrible powertrains from Germany and Italy
The expensive to maintain ZF German made transmission now used and the unreliable dual clutch automatics from Fiat and let's not forget Fiat's MultiAir engine. used on many small Jeep products.
fca 9 speed really bad
the early model was, they good now
Qoqow
They are both crap....plastic pan!!!!No wonder they brake down,heat dissipation is close to none.
Does anyone make an aftermarket metal pan?
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