Influencers Should Not Get Special Treatment - WAN Show July 12, 2024
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Timestamps (courtesy of NoKi1119):
0:00 Chapters
1:25 Intro
2:09 Topic #1 - Tesla's FSD training focused on influencers
3:48 Luke recalls "golden samples," Linus on AMD's names
5:19 Should this be illegal? HW 30, Linus on anonymous shopping
12:09 Luke's take, Linus shuts him down, customer V.S. management
15:36 LTT videos process, Luke on WAN Show costs, Dan on logistics
17:49 Communication methods for LMG, Linus's mirror & fashion
23:09 Linus asks dBrand to sponsor live dye, paint update
24:14 Yvonne takes a summer leave, Luke on blonding his hair
27:54 Dan wants to dye too, bro fist special edition shirt
28:54 Linus has boobies cause of badminton & swimming
34:27 Topic #2 - Co-pilot+ laptops purchased over battery life, not AI
36:40 Linus's live AI track scenario, Luke on battery & sleep
39:13 Linus recalls their game tests stream, Qualcomm over promised
42:04 Luke on the M-series launch & expectations
43:46 Linus on testing Qualcomm laptops, LTT's reply to JJ
46:12 Linus recalls LTT's old screen protector video, LTT graphs
48:18 Linus on LTT's education, "growing out of LTT," crayon chart
50:12 Linus on opening an IT shop, Luke on trolls & hate posts
53:38 LTT's recent videos, Linus on 3D content & Blu-ray
1:02:42 Linus on not covering Intel's 14th Gen, "wide GPU cooler"
1:05:41 Labs appreciation Reddit post, LTT Labs' reviews
1:10:06 LTTStore's Lime Day on 16th to 19th
1:11:38 Merch Messages #1
1:11:45 Plans for a water bottle lid with a relief valve?
1:12:04 Do you still need sound cards on new motherboards?
1:14:13 Long term engagement for 100K subs? ft. Science, feathers
1:27:07 Lime Day deals preview
1:28:02 LTTStore's anti-static LTT ModMat
1:30:52 Visual sizes & charts
1:31:48 Demoing cleaning thermal compound, Linus calls Luke out
1:35:48 Linus puts liquid metal, packaging
1:40:52 Linus on softball, Gary, Elijah & Sarah, Luke on playing
1:44:02 Linus is a toxic competitor, almost killed Shahrad
1:45:54 Sponsor - MANSCAPED
1:47:03 Sponsor - AG1 ft. Linus's fig trees, Luke's aloe vera plant
1:51:13 Sponsor - Seasonic
1:52:24 Merch Messages #2
1:52:31 What fluid were you going to use for Luke's NAS?
1:53:50 Linus's skin care
1:54:32 What video series would Luke make?
1:57:28 Daily tech that shouldn't exist? ft. LTT video, kids, VBucks
2:13:58 Topic #3 - XBOX Game Pass price & tier changes
2:19:30 Topic #4 - AMD Ryzen 9000 stocks up ahead of official launch
2:24:22 Linus on soldered chip rumor, Mega Mini Gaming G1
2:29:38 Level1Techs' Intel video, Linus on modularity
2:32:46 Topic #5 - Apollo and Frens uses LTT screwdriver
2:36:01 Screwdriver appears in Corsair's ad, u/Jesus-Bacon
2:36:37 Yvonne's background colors idea due to dark clips
2:40:18 Topic #6 - "Linus" wants gift cards for backpack
2:41:18 Scammer's deepfake of Linus
2:43:28 Topic #7 - EU to respond to Stop Killing Games' movement if signed
2:45:36 Linus's early WAN Show for Europe idea, AI article rebrand
2:47:52 Countries eligible for signing
2:48:28 Topic #8 - AT&T breach affects many customers
2:50:01 Why don't they encrypt stored data?
2:56:38 Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark
2:57:00 How important are security updates for phones? ft. Dan's burn,
2:59:48 Seen into sleep focused earbuds?
3:01:08 Luke's favorite calories app? ft. Steve-O D-cup breasts
3:04:52 What does LMG do to preserve the world's stability?
3:07:08 Which entities own cables that connect the world?
3:07:44 Linus's top rated cereals ft. Elijah uses water
3:15:12 WAN Show's 11 year anniversary!
3:15:51 What's Luke's favorite technology he got for FP?
3:17:18 Thoughts on Samsung Ring?
3:17:36 How would you handle being overworked and undertrained?
3:20:40 Things the audience finds interesting but you won't cover?
3:21:12 ETA for Taiwan backpack? ft. Linus's Taiwan friend married
3:22:58 Headphone's partnership with LTT Labs
3:24:40 What cars did Luke drift on his Japan trip?
3:26:10 Do you see problems with devs who do well but don't advance positions?
3:28:01 Thoughts on Intel 13th & 14th problems & possible solution?
3:31:44 Tips to ship a tower to Hawaii?
3:32:50 Outro ft. Happy WANniversary! - Наука та технологія
This marks the 150th WAN stamped lol
-Timestamps-
[0:00] *Chapters.*
[1:25] *Intro.*
[2:09] *Topic #1: Tesla's FSD training focused on influencers.*
> 3:48 Luke recalls "golden samples," Linus on AMD's names.
> 5:19 Should this be illegal? HW 3.0, Linus on anonymous shopping.
> 12:09 Luke's take, Linus shuts him down, customer V.S. management.
> 15:36 LTT videos process, Luke on WAN Show costs, Dan on logistics.
> 17:49 Communication methods for LMG, Linus's mirror & fashion.
> 23:09 Linus asks dBrand to sponsor live dye, paint update.
> 24:14 Yvonne takes a summer leave, Luke on blonding his hair.
> 27:54 Dan wants to dye too, bro fist special edition shirt.
> 28:54 Linus has boobies cause of badminton & swimming.
[34:27] *Topic #2: Co-pilot+ laptops purchased over battery life, not AI.*
> 36:40 Linus's live AI track scenario, Luke on battery & sleep.
> 39:13 Linus recalls their game tests stream, Qualcomm over promised.
> 42:04 Luke on the M-series launch & expectations.
> 43:46 Linus on testing Qualcomm laptops, LTT's reply to JJ.
> 46:12 Linus recalls LTT's old screen protector video, LTT graphs.
> 48:18 Linus on LTT's education, "growing out of LTT," crayon chart.
> 50:12 Linus on opening an IT shop, Luke on trolls & hate posts.
> 53:38 LTT's recent videos, Linus on 3D content & bluray.
> 1:02:42 Linus on not covering Intel's 14th Gen, "wide GPU cooler."
> 1:05:41 Labs appreciation Reddit post, LTT Labs' reviews.
[1:10:06] *LTTStore's Lime Day on 16th to 19th.*
[1:11:38] *Merch Messages #1.*
> 1:11:45 Plans for a water bottle lid with a relief valve?
> 1:12:04 Do you still need sound cards on new motherboards?
> 1:14:13 Long term engagement for 100K subs? ft. Science, feathers.
[1:27:07] *Lime Day deals preview.*
> 1:28:02 LTTStore's anti-static LTT ModMat.
> 1:30:52 Visual sizes & charts.
> 1:31:48 Demoing cleaning thermal compound, Linus calls Luke out.
> 1:35:48 Linus puts liquid metal, packaging.
> 1:40:52 Linus on softball, Gary, Elijah & Sarah, Luke on playing.
> 1:44:02 Linus is a toxic competitor, almost killed Shahrad.
[1:45:54] *Sponsors.*
> 1:46:04 MANSCAPED.
> 1:47:03 AG1 ft. Linus's fig trees, Luke's aloe vera plant.
> 1:51:13 Seasonic.
[1:52:24] *Merch Messages #2.*
> 1:52:31 What was the fluid you were going to use for Luke's NAS?
> 1:53:50 Skin care Linus did.
> 1:54:32 What video series would Luke make?
> 1:57:28 Daily tech that shouldn't exist? ft. LTT video, kids, VBucks.
[2:13:58] *Topic #3: XBOX Game Pass price & tier changes.*
[2:19:30] *Topic #4: AMD Ryzen 9000 stock ahead of official launch.*
> 2:24:22 Linus on soldered chip rumor, Mega Mini Gaming G1.
> 2:29:38 Level1Techs' Intel video, Linus on modularity.
[2:32:46] *Topic #5: Apollo and Frens uses LTT screwdriver.*
> 2:36:01 Screwdriver appears in Corsair's ad, u/Jesus-Bacon.
> 2:36:37 Yvonne's background colors idea due to dark clips.
[2:40:18] *Topic #6: "Linus" wants gift cards for backpack.*
> 2:41:18 Scammer's deepfake of Linus.
[2:43:28] *Topic #7: EU to respond to Stop Killing Games' movement if signed.*
> 2:45:36 Linus's early WAN Show for Europe idea, AI article rebrand.
> 2:47:52 Countries legible for signing.
[2:48:28] *Topic #8: AT&T breach affects many customers.*
> 2:50:01 Why don't they encrypt stored data?
[2:56:38] *Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark.*
> 2:57:00 How important are security updates for phones? ft. Dan's burn,
> 2:59:48 Seen into sleep focused earbuds?
> 3:01:08 Luke's favorite calories app? ft. Steve-O D-cup breasts.
> 3:04:52 What does LMG do to preserve the world's stability?
> 3:07:08 Which entities that own cables that connect the world?
> 3:07:44 Linus's top rated cereals ft. Elijah uses water.
[3:15:12] *WAN Show's 11 year anniversary!*
[Cont.] *Merch Messages #3.*
> 3:15:51 What's Luke's favorite technology he got for FP?
> 3:17:18 Thoughts on Samsung Ring?
> 3:17:36 How would you handle being overworked and undertrained?
> 3:20:40 Things the audience finds interesting but you won't cover?
> 3:21:12 ETA for Taiwan backpack? ft. Linus's Taiwan friend married.
> 3:22:58 How is Headphone's partner with LTT Labs going?
> 3:24:40 What cars did Luke drift on his Japan trip?
> 3:26:10 Do you see problems with devs who do well but don't advance positions?
> 3:28:01 Thoughts on Intel 13th & 14th problems & possible solution?
> 3:31:44 Tips to ship a tower to Hawaii?
[3:32:50] *Outro ft. Happy WANniversary!*
Side note: Donations are in my channel's about section. c:
Thank you
i appreciate time stamps
150 Fridays spent, and another 150 or more to go
Goddamn that was fast
Thank you! Just woke up and the timestamps are ready
You are awesome!
Not sure if this feedback will ever get back to LTT, but even though you may not liked the AMD video, and it may not perform that well, I found it incredibly useful. As someone new and wanting to build my own PC for the first time, you don’t know what you don’t know. This video opened my eyes to the ridiculous marketing tactics even in naming. Maybe in 5 or 10 years I will be numb to the subject, but as someone new to this world, I found it incredibly useful and fascinating. Like Luke said you don’t have to do it all the time, but I think it was valuable. Thank you.
Exactly this! It’s really important and it’s great that stuff like this has a place on the channel currently (and hopefully in the future too)
I'd like to add that I've been in the PC building scene for almost 10 years and this video was still very useful. I wouldn't have known about AMD messing with their naming scheme otherwise.
yes, but also who ever looks at naming to judge performance? everyone are using benchmarks and comparison charts anyway, all those product names are just unique identifiers of products, they bring no decision-making information
@@Chipsarunaming has everything to do with relative performance between models
linus: i'm tired of being mad and cranky
also linus, earlier: why don't we actually open an IT shop
LOL I don't think that's how not to be tired and cranky
idea: record the "how merch messages work" as a video tutorial with full-screen graphics, so u can take a break, and drink some water :)
Then they’ll be able to do even longer wan shows 😈
If the "Luke-budget home" series would be sick, do it. I think it'd be pretty cool. Might give some of us with fewer expendable moneys some good ideas.
Luke's ultimate cheap tech upgrade!
As a senior developer, I've been pushed into management in every position I've held. If you're a good developer, you're always suddenly expected to manage other developers, when all you want to do is just write code. It reminds me a of bit from the late Mitch Hedberg: "When you're in Hollywood and you're a comedian, everybody wants you to do other things. All right, you're a stand-up comedian, can you write us a script? That's not fair. That's like if I worked hard to become a cook, and I'm a really good cook, they'd say, "OK, you're a cook. Can you farm?"
I think it depends on a team. If you work in a big team, then it would eventually be split and someone will have to manage. If your team is small and relatively unchanging for years, you have a manager and there us no reason to have another developer be a manager
i mean really good cooks tend to go on to run the kitchen which is a management position...but yeah, i agree with the overall sentiment, not all individual contributors want to become managers, and its dumb to force them to make that switch
Writing jokes for stand up and writing a TV show are more similar than cooking and farming.
I feel like this happens in every job. I currently work on a tile production line and all i really care about is operating the line but they're currently trying push me into leading the lines.
Peter principal
About AI....
I don't think it's really that surprising that the average Joe doesn't care. Being able to DJ a song is cool, but how often will I do that? AI editing a photo is cool, but how often do I edit photos? Writing a novel with AI is cool, but I barely have time to game.
What I want (and I think average consumers want) is Star Trek. I want to tell my house I'm going to sleep and have it tell me "good night" while it turns off my lights for me. That's about it.
I am personally interested in about 2% of the other AI features out there. I just don't care for AI in my life beyond that
Edit: and I'm in IT... I literally support this crap as a profession, and 98% is utterly stupid
Yeah, same for me, main reason why people actually cared about Apples AI keynote is because they were the only ones talking about how AI will be unobtrusively integrated in stuff you are already doing. Just connecting some dots in the background, making clever suggestions, better voice control, quick editing for images, that sort of stuff. Not a fanboy, I just think they are on the right track
@@Rohinthas I partially agree and partially disagree.
I agree that Apple is MORE on the right path with regards to integrating AI into normal life. However, I also find the thought of my personal device watching and learning from me to be creepy. And I don't think that I am that unusual. (Note: one of my phones *is* an iPhone, so not counter-fanboying here).
Speaking with my extended family and friends (and this is highly anecdotal and should be taken with copious amounts of salt), most people seem to use their mobile devices to consume their life only, and don't really want AI filtering what they see, and certainly not making decisions for them.
Beyond that "Star Trek" factor. I just don't think a lot of AI will ultimately be successful long term. At least not in my little circle in the wider world.
You Mileage Will undoubtedly Vary.
I have the same mentality, i work for a living and i would love to have a creative job where im not sore every day. Im not saying a creative job isn't challenging or difficult it's completely different to the "average" person who works 8 to 10 hours helping people or working manual labor and AI cannot help me with that. Like you put i dont DJ i dont write a book everyday and i dont really need artwork.
I like home automation and AI could assist but a light switch is currently more convenient than my phone (google home).
@@Rohinthas for consumers, for end users, yes, agreed
@@nathangarvey797 yes, you are raising an important point. The creep-factor is there for me too. I guess by "the right path" I am referring to the immediate user experience and not so much the overarching question of whether I want some technical device to predict and alter my behavioral patterns. I probably delude myself into it "being fine" because the models are said to be run the device and not in the cloud, so it is *just* my phone knowing me a little too well, but I think we all know that this could come to an end really quickly or only be true for some parts of the data. And it doesnt change the fact that an algorithm is steering more and more minor details of my everyday life.
I wonder how much people will care though if Apple manages to hide most of the AI magic in already existing apps/features. Its not a perfect analogy, but the social media algorithms becoming more and more user-specific in their recommendations has not stopped the userbase from growing, if anything only the enshittification through ads and promoted content has put a dampener on it.
12:30 Luke, This is in the Elon Musk biography: apparently he used to have issues with his Tesla car that couldn’t deal with the missing lane marking on his daily commute. The engineers tried everything to fix it, but the car still wouldn’t manage it. In the end they decided that they would hire a machine and fix the lane marking on their own, but in the end they managed to get it fixed by the city.
I found this story kinda hilarious for many reasons, but the point is that it was always about fixing Elon’s experience rather than the product.
Yikes. Hadn't heard this one - LS
Did you mean biography?
Is that really a topic of his biography? =') Is there at least anything insightful commented on it?
@@TheHadMatters biography, indeed, it was early in the morning when I sent my comment 🙈The book covers everything up until and including the Twitter purchase, I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Also, it's not portraying him in a too positive light, it was written by the same guy as the Steve Jobs biography.
@@marcellkovacs5452you can make anything sound bad if you word it a certain way.
@@marcellkovacs5452I mean, for gods sake. You people are in here calling Elon a shitty person because his 100k vehicle was having trouble reading the street lines that WERENT FUCKING THERE when the guy was even going to buy a line machine to fix the damn road. But all you serial cynics can read between the lines is how "selfish billionaire CEO uses his employees to make his life easier" like that's not what happened.
Reporting on only good things in an ever devolving consumer experience is creating a dishonest picture about the industry.
I want fun videos too but tech sucks, companies make decisions to only squeeze you out of your last dollar.
Someone has to report on it. For me you are one of the rare trusted sources of tech info. For this you need to report on negativ things too. Unfortunately.
Ed zitron is really focused on that kind of coverage. He's been on a real tear lately about how and why Google and Facebook have made worse.
They don't cover most of issues, at best they mention them.
Gamer Nexus actually does a lot of work to cover various issues of products and companies behind them
Right but it seems like audience latch on to the negative way more than the positive like they get aroused by negativity and will bring anyone down for not being negative.
Linus: I have a limit.
Dbrand: MOOONNEEEYYYY
Linus:....... *FLEX*
If skipping CPU gens, labs is going to be a must.
I'd love to get mid cycle reviews on the ones you skip where you talk about why it was skipped, but I'm probably a minority
Def a minority. I only watch wan show. I'm not involved in tech enough too care about all these specs.
Mid cycle reviews could be a possibility on labs, but I don't see there being any incentive or desire for them to make a video on chips that didn't interest them when they launched. They may be mildly better now, but unless it's a drastic performance overhaul they would have no interest
WAN show that is under 5 hours??? What else am I supposed to do for the rest of the day?
Watch it on 0,5x speed. Voila!
touch grass
listen to wan show again
Dude just shut. The ltt fanbase is so incredibly cringe sometimes. Everytime the live is too long y'all are crying for the timestamp guy. Now they make smaller episodes for you TikTok attentionspan Zoomers and it's still not good enough?
@@elitepauper7400who hurt you? It’s just a meme lmao.
Aloe Vera is the equivalent of a chain letter. People are always giving them away because you have to because they grow like mad. Then, the next person has the same problem and has to give aloe to their friends and family and so on and so on. It's a nightmare.
Unless you just delete it 😂
It's good if you know how to use it.
Plot twist, Aloe Very emits mind control fields which make humans care for the plant and spread it to other humans. We’re slaves to Aloe Vera and we don’t even know it (unless we’re reading this comment).
Currently looking for new aloe cuttings myself, because I need to start some in my yard.
Never used it for anything except topically before (which is great), but apparently it makes great rooting hormone if you want to propagate cuttings of a plant (plant cloning).
Something to consider if you garden or have house plants. Rooting hormone on tap would be useful!
@@sunlalets make a deal. We both must buy some Aloe before august arrives. Report back in half a month.
Sounds like Linus is kinda burnt out on the negative side of the UA-cam news, reviews, whatever he technically does. But I kinda see it as part of his job or whatever to show both sides of the space off. Amd made really cool products a few years ago and we were excited about just the facts and we should be kinda mad about these new facts.
Linus sounds burnt out, LTT should still cover stuff that is weird or negative but have other people host those vids while Linus just hosts the things that interest him.
Hes not burnt out. Hes disappointed in the trajectory
Hear hear
@@TheAceTroubleshooternah he's burning out somewhat
I see where Linus comes from, I'm tired of the negativity online and in mainstream media, it's actually tiring trying to find positive things.
He's been doing this for many years, it wouldn't surprise me.
The buy a PC from a random shop in Taiwan was positive and honest
Dead Internet theory. "Sentiment bot please go into Internet and promote positive sentiment about the good PR we had"
@@FlavoredCrayon does that change the fact that it was indeed a positive thing though?
@@eccomi21 Not at all. It's just not a genuine person or discussion. It's kind of nice when it's spreading positivity, but bots being used to try and convince the YT algo and humans what to feel is bad. It can be used for much worse things.
@@FlavoredCrayon yeah, but does it really matter if it is a human or a bot spouting whatever into the void?
OP spritzed his grammar and now all of a sudden the kids are hunting for AI. And the only reason they're even suspicious is because of the timing of the phone call.
Man, it would royally suck to be a kid today. We millennials think we're so goddamn oppressed to witness literally every catastrophe possible... imagine growing up in the face of all of that plus AI. It'd be terrifying.
Can I just remind everyone that coincidences do happen, and your world is probably not ending.
51:35 Sure, you have roles in entertainment and whatnot but you also have a really important role in advocacy when it comes to the tech landscape (and especially when it comes to things that take advantage of consumers). God knows consumers don't vote with their wallets, so I think LTT and other media channels have a role as somewhat of a focal point to both bring awareness to bad things that companies do as well as to put pressure on those companies in a way that individual consumers can't/won't.
You already do this in certain areas when it comes to advertisers and content you decide to feature on the channel, but as a spokesperson for the tech community, your responsibility towards advocacy doesn't *just* extend to those you engage in business with.
You could certainly view those videos as being "mad and cranky," but I view it more as putting attention on things that might need it the most. Cool tech is cool tech, and I'm glad it's remained the most predominant content on the channel, but sometimes it's the bad parts of tech that actually require the most coverage. If spokespeople like you don't call out these companies/industries for what they do, it just makes it easier for them to do it in the future-*ESPECIALLY* for marketing campaigns like those you covered in the CPU video. Those campaigns are considered successful when they successfully manipulate consumer perspectives, and thus it's important to remind people about it (i.e. to *complain about it*) to help mitigate their efficacy. So, I hope you keep doing that. Call attention to how everyone hates the AI marketing fluff, and how companies construct narratives for reviewers, and how AMD/Intel are intentionally making their products more confusing. Negativity shouldn't ever dominate the channel, but the alternative of avoiding the most important and systemic practices feels insincere at best and neglectful at worst.
The vibes about the hobby are extra depressing this episode, but felt. Back in ye olde days when I was getting interested in tech, I remember lusting over computers on this channel & settling for a half height 750ti slapped in an Optiplex. A decade on, a lot of the folks I talk to during my office hours don't have desktops, just laptops - you'd think CS folks have would be into it, but it's just not practical. All hobbies fade to a certain extent until they become sufficiently retro to sustain a cult following. If modular desktops go the way of the dinos, I bet it'll boomerang in 10 years or so afterwards. Fingers crossed for Ampere to pull it off. Anyways, thanks for the great content as always.
I know what you mean, truth is though that most people do not need the power of a desktop pc, but they do need the ability to carry their text editor and document viewer everywhere. Streaming is the only Browser-activity that actually benefits from the larger screen, phones are good enough for nearly everything else.
@@Rohinthasand it's not even a recent thing. When this guy was playing with his 750ti, everyone else was rocking MacBook airs. They were pitifully weak but it was just enough for your average user.
Yeah last time I upgraded my pc was ~2016/17 and I used that until that start of last year. I needed a new laptop anyway and my pc was midrange at best when I built it so it was struggling with any of the games I wanted to play. A gaming laptop was more economical for me.
All hope and hype kinda over after Ryzen for me, I guess the handheld kinda make me hyped again but I feel all the handheld released is so unfinished...
My first thought was exactly the same but looking back I've never had a component fail and so other than adding more ram or storage mid cycle, all of my upgrades have always been total platform upgrades. I think a lot of people like the idea of modularity because you can buy mid tier now and upgrade to a higher spec within the tier later on, it's just by the time most people come to upgrade, parts hit the point in their lifecycle that they've seen all the discounts they ever will and then prices have been jacked up again as if it's some kind of legacy component so it ends up cheaper to do a full platform upgrade
Lol the level of unhinged at 29 minutes was great. I needed that lol.
"The level of unhinged"
Ffs..
I loved your deep dive on the dual mode monitor thingy, and was so impressed by your testing and investigation!! Please keep making videos like those, they inspire optimism in tech too!
In a similar vein to Linus' story about the instructor giving bad info.
My first job after graduating college for computer networking was just selling bell internet and TV. shit job to begin with but in training the trainer said one of the reasons bell internet is the best is because of their dynamic IP system helps people not get hacked, your IP address is changing all the time! I tried to correct her and tell her that thats not how it works, you have your IP for weeks at a time possibly months depending on some things. when she ignored me i knew i was working in the wrong place.
Normal, everyday people are spending 10s of thousands of dollars on these cars. Car makers don't get a pass for anything. We, the consumer, need to hold these car makers to an incredibly high standard.
If you give a bad review of Tesla, remember that they have manually watched everywhere you have been and what you were doing there.
Considering Linus' chosen language regarding Tesla as a company if anyone should be worried it should be Elon worried about jealous soy boys like Linus and Luke slandering their name for no good reason.
Is that why my tesla keeps trying to kill me.. even when "autopilot" is off 😢
Worker-Linus reports to Terran an Terran reports to Owner-Linus 😅
Linus: I have boobies. Touch them. Touch them.
PR: Fires! Everywhere, fires!
I feel that going to one channel as a one-stop-shop for reviews are just looking at reviews incorrectly. I think Josh's way to look at battery life is justified, especially for his audience. Whereas for me, I'm doing really basic stuff with mild workloads here and there. I'll look at both of their videos for info. Is either perfect or all encompassing, hell no, but it doesn't have to be.
People also really need to know who to look for reviews. If I really like apple and I go to MKBHD, I kind of already align my thoughts with him. If I go to LTT to have thoughts on Apple, I may have a bad time. Like, I'm not going to go to a person who hates JRPGs review a JRPG, that's nonsense. I really do think the consumers here and on Josh's channel really need to improve their review shopping game.
I kind of agree, but I mainly go to LTT and Short Circuit, as well as MKBHD, for different reasons. When it comes to Apple products and Android phones, I mainly focus on LTT and Short Circuit for hardware testing, while I go to MKBHD for user experience and camera/ISP quality.
Lmao that ending with Luke waiting for Linus with a long silence and then Linus chiming in during the outro with “HAPPY WANNIVERSARY” was very funny
Can I just say how hilarious it is listening to the young-uns linus and luke tryin to play like they be old talking about other young-uns who just happen to be a wee bit younger lmao :)
The part of the talking point for AG1 saying "a few members of the team have tried it" means absolutely nothing, lol. I have tried many things in my life that I would never try again.
There are also things that are so stupid I have elected NOT to try them. AG1 is not one of those things for some LMG team members apparantly. Good to know!
The crazy thing is, even though them trying it shouldn't matter a difference, it probably does actually move the needle to include that tidbit.
Check out the concept of social proof, it's kinda wild.
Turns out, humans are pretty social animals, and surprisingly often all it takes to get us to do something is to hear that other people are doing it too.
You ever pull up at a drive thru with 2 open lanes, several cars waiting in one lane while the other is open? Monkey see, monkey do.
They phrase it that way because it makes it sound like they drink it daily, when in reality even if everybody had stopped trying it completely, the way they phrase it isn't technically a lie.
@An4lAvenger I definitely get why they phrase it that way. After hearing it a few times, I wanted to call it out.
@@SlippyMcKnot8472 They have a sponsor feedback section on the forum that gets reviewed by the business team - that's probably helpful feedback to hear as now I've heard you say it, the actual meaning of the words is very different from what they want you to think.
Linus having a existential crisis during the wan show to where to go with future content is kinda crazy
Shows he is still a grounded individual and doesnt live in clouds despite his fortune.
1:05:30 Convection cooled computer is a dream idea of mine. I also think that you need not just a big heatsink but also to put a computer in a huge pipe -- like power station pipe or chimney: you need a long pipe to have enough pressure differential to force that hot air up much faster. So, 2-3 meter chimney around the radiator will (likely) provide enough drag to cool the system, that is my theory.
I’m partial to the Maple Nut Oatmeal Crisp, find that one hasn’t changed its flavour since their “You wouldn’t like it” commercial streak like 15 years ago.
Yeh that one's good too - LS
I have 2 house rabbits, Nesquik is identical to their poops... and Nesquik's mascot is a rabbit.
Tesla promising full self driving “by next year” has been going on for far longer than half a decade.
The first clip I can find is from 2012.
People have been laughing at teslas promise to build full self driving for at least a decade 😂😂😂 I wonder how old the oldest thunderfoot video busting FSD is 😅
Process flow maps!! I love going through this process and the 😮 face on people when they realize how complicated some stuff is 😂
Even as a kid my favorite cereals have always been
1) Cinnamon Toast Crunch
2) Frosted Mini Wheats
3) Raisin Bran
I want my 2016 LG 3d tv back unfortunately it developed lines...... 4k offers nothing compared to 3d viewing experience. The technology we have now can EASILY do 3d processing to make it completely viable
As a product manager, I like to have developers close to customer support and you shouldn't shield them are mantras that hit home, and I wish more companies embraced.
Yeah, I'm a developer and our new management wants to outsource a significantly larger portion of the support. I can tell you now that in 2 years our product will suffer from a lot of minor UX degradations, because the little things are only ever brought up in person, while the customer is already on a call with you. So many little UI things were fixed because a customer pointed them out while going over something entirely else.
so much gets lost in translation between the user and developer when it goes through even just one person
As a developer, while I generally agree with this, I still think it’s useful to have at least 1 layer of buffer between the customer and the developers. I do agree that it shouldn’t be outsourced to another company, it should be something in-house. Ideally, those customer support people would be well trained to help customers, and have some level of technical knowledge to know what is and isn’t worth bringing to the devs. In my ideal, they would just note done things to bring to devs, then like once of twice a week they bring the list to the devs (and potentially recordings of the calls/emails that made them write that down), but that might be a bit much.
Sadly many companies see support only as a, in the best case necessary, cost factor.
@@marcellkovacs5452 So so true. I do my best to be that day to day 'bridge' between the team and the users. But I don't care how good you think you are as a product manager, having a dev team sit down with a user can be pure gold.
I've always believed that as a PM I want problems solved, but it's our technology experts (aka devs) who I like to empower to solve the problem. That direct insight as an engaged developer sees the problem first hand. That is so so helpful.
_Matt Gray is Trying_ is basically a Brit doing Luke's dream video series
Congrats to the TaiWAN couple that got married during the 11th anniversary of the WAN show!!
I own a model Y and the first thing I tell people who ask about it is: Don't get it for the self-driving, I didnt, it's basically bullshit. Get it because it has 300 miles of range, gets the full rebate, and gets most of "EV" stuff right. If money isn't that important, I would have rather bought a Kia EV6 😢
Get a bungee for the pool so you don't have to keep turning on the wall. You wear a harness and attach it to something then you can swim endlessly. It's also easy to do burst training with them. Also for more arm and chest strength get some hand paddles
As a father who was the stay at home dad after our child was born, looking after an infant is not a full time job, it was the easiest 2 years of my adult life. With that said, caring for 2 infants, whole different ball game and after 6 months I gave up and returned to a 48hr work week.
Going with what you're enthusiatic about for videos is a great idea. I love listening to passionate people.
There are 3 types of influencers out there.
1) Ones that are going to be honest, whether they go out and buy it 'on the quiet' or not, they give a true test and report.
2) The ones that are saying" give it to me and I will talk it up ". ( after freebies )
And
3) The ones that are paid to go to the "event" where they are 'wined and dined", given all the press release notes and have the editor listening to the marketing department for all the ad revenue.
If they say up front " they sent me this to review it " you take that to mean " I know that this may be a 'golden product' but I will do my best to be honest ".
So, Linus starts swimming a lot more, notices muscle growth.
Linus: 😲
Bro was a fing lifeguard when he was younger 🤦♂️😆
It's quite normal for skinnier people to not be able to put on mass without a lot of eating when they are young. Once their metabolism slows down a bit it's suddenly easy to grow muscles (or gain fat).
I paused the video at 1:30:09 as I was getting up to use the restroom and all I heard was “it has an antislip bottom butt(upward influction)” 😂
57:44 I find that things are immediately 100% more interesting when Linus is passionate about something no matter what it is
I can confirm the golden sample thing is real as, I worked for PC specialist and they did this for reviews
That mod mat design is beautiful, would you consider selling that as a desk pad design?
Love the show today. Even though it's on the "shorter" side, the conversation parts of it really made the show. I was having a busy, long day. You all made it better.
Weighing data differently makes sense because training straightline or daily commute vs difficult routes and many turns on purpose is more xp points per minute.
I missed the wan show trying to get a date and I regret it
latent heat is the technical name for it (watch the show for Context 1:22:00)
Indeed.
The basic fact that this is real is used in food service to check thermometers for accuracy - check their reading in ice water that has been left to sit, then check their temperature in boiling water. It should be 0 and 100 degrees respectively - if it isn't close to that your thermometer is broken (because the water sure isn't going to be).
The only exception to this in the case of water is pressure.
@@JW-uz1ee and altitude... Which is also pressure related but worth mentioning
Yes Linus! I’m here for the fun and quirky stuff! I want to see weird/unusual/unique tech on ShortCircuit, not a bunch of laptop reviews!
On modularlarity,I remember having the option of adding memory IC's to various PCI expansion cards. Even used to get the tool for doing in those cheap Belkin tool kits.
It bugs me that this is not 33:33:33
These wan shows are getting too short smh
Not gonna lie, didn’t expect Linus and Luke talking about their hair for 2024 bingo
Damn and then he talked about his boobies
So about all of that encryption stuff at 2:50:01 .
You could either encrypt the data with a master key or with the user password.
Using a master key is not super helpful. You need it at so many places, that it should be trivial to find once you have access to the database. And even if it isn't trivial it is just another small layer between hackers and the data.
Using the user password would actually help, because then you could only access this data if the user is logged in. But that has a multitude of problems:
1. Encryption your mail
You can't, if you ever want your user to be able to reset their passwords. It's encrypted by their password, so yeah... It's kinda a chicken and egg problem here.
2. Encrypting your address
If you placed an order your address has to be put somewhere. The only way would be for it to be printed immediately and handled by humans. Otherwise it has to be saved in some order queue and if you can read the main database the order database should be just around the corner. The user account and orders also have to be connected somehow, so again it would be absolutely trivial to connect the two and still have your address. Yes it would narrow down the scope of attacks because order can be eventually deleted, but if you want to maintain any type of customer service you need to access some of the data without user interaction (e.g. if something goes wrong with your order).
3. Customer support
If you call support you would have to hand out your password so that they could read your account data, which they probably need to help you. It would make the process so much more frustrating and customer support can be annying already. This would make it so much worse.
4. Debugging
As someone who needs to debug things that include redacted/encrypted customer data I can tell you how much it sucks right now. It's stupidly time consuming sometimes. It is absolutely necessary in many ways, and I'm really glad, that a lot fo data is encrypted, but every bit you encrypt furter will makes debugging and actually finding problems in system much, much, much worse.
All in all it is a nice though, but just not practical. It's more expensive, time consuming and annoying for customers and developers. Is it possible in some scenarios? Absolutely. Should it be standard? Probably not and probably can't be.
Linus, you should know that, the only stupid question, is the one you did not ask.
If everything was encrypted in a database like names etc. The CPU requirements to run a single search would be insane as it would need to decrypt every name in the database to search for a single user. Names in conjunction with other identifiers or phone numbers etc. are used are key identifiers. when an employee is looking for you in the system when you call up they need your name and DOB or your number etc.
That might depend on how that encryption is implemented. If the entire database is encrypted as one unit, or even the tables each encrypted as single units, the yeah you would need to decrypt everything to do a simple search. But if you only encrypt the value in each column individually, one way to handle it would be to encrypt your search terms, so you find the matching encrypted value, then only decrypt the information returned. It’s still more CPU overhead with constant encryption/decryption, you just don’t necessarily have to decrypt *everything* to do a search.
Wait did the people behind the Qualcomm laptops SERIOUSLY think people would by them for their AI power? That's the funniest shit I've heard 🤣🤣
I've seen that screen in person, it was demoed with Star Wars Squadrons in 3D, and it was incredible. It was also very strange as a spectator as it can obviously only steer the view to the person directly in front of the screen.
i find that the last two months i haven’t been receiving recommendations about ltt videos, i’ve been struggling to have the time to even watch
It's wild to me how some men are so carefree about making their hair look really bad for some sort of gag. I couldn't fathom doing anything like that to my hair.
As I’m sure you know men and women are very different and men don’t think about their hair as much as I assume women do.
Our hair also seems to grow much faster and doesn’t need to get very long. If I do something dumb, I can shave it all off, it’ll be back in a few weeks.
Why does that cereal conversation make me think of starting a conversation with my dad about trains…
Luke trying not to laugh as Linus says "The betas" at 7:28 is what I needed in my life.
Apple Vision Pro is unironically the best 3D display in 2024
Tip: never buy a Moza product. RMA service is very poor, and Hardware experts also let you down for months. I have had my R5 set with brake lite kit in transit for over 2 months. I picked it up last week so it was not repaired and therefore hopelessly unable to sim yet. So back to the HE in Lelystad, the Netherlands and they would urgently arrange a new brake pedal (because it was/is still broken) from Rseat Germany, now more than a week later and still no pedal from their intermediary/importer/wholesaler Rseat Germany who was supposed to have it delivered urgently via DHL, well they have not been able to deliver it after more than a week. So my advice is not to buy anything from Moza, nor from/via Rseat, and certainly not from Hardware Experts (Bram Nijk and Jorgo Rino, in particular, are the worst kinds of ppl)
@@user-kx6wl8hz8v I'm Dutch it took from April 30 until July 11, 2024. I'm happy for you, but this is my experience, I can't trust any party involved. Bram Nijk and Jorgo Rinu from Hardware Experts, those at Rseat, France and Germany, and Moza China failed miserably. It should reasonably only take a few weeks, the tech in a brake pedal is no rocket science and would be an easy fix or replacement. And the same problem happened to many many others, Moza''s brake pedals (all models) had the same problem for years, they could have corrected/ redesigned it but they did not. But I'm happy for you you have not had that common problem, and perhaps your retailer is one with a moral backbone and Rseat is also not in the loop on your side. When it works it is great, but the proof is that when things go wrong how good the service then really is, and for me, it was really, really bad.
@Linus when I choose a laptop the most important things for me is good enough speakers, a good enough screen, great battery life, a good keyboard, light weight and the most important thing for me is LTE connectivity. I work where there is no wifi and I use my laptop to remote in to my work PC from home and or on site. The PC is technically a server but is made of consumer hardware
1:00:35 Linus describing how the New 3DS worked 😄
My counter argument for the tesla point would be that the videos provide an extra view of potential problem areas that they need to train the FSD on. You have the car data and an extra visual representation of the problem with a vocal commentary to explain what they don't like about the way it acted. The only problem i would have is if it was to the exclusion of other data inputs.
This is supposing that they are using data only from when that specific influencer is making content.
By all accounts, they are using data from every trip that is made in the car, whether there is additional points of view or not.
I mix cereal with Greek Yogurt instead of milk with my cereal. Find the flavor much better. Also tend to use Nutrail Granola.
also Battery life is the first second and third thing I consider when makin any electronic purchase
(Sorry I'm a couple hours behind and still playing catchup but felt strongly on this one so edited my original post)
Sounds like a very strict and restrictive rule.
@@Nearest_Neighbor For battery life I fall under heavy user and the best device is the one still on.
I would love this stereoscopic 3d king tier setup video.
Linus, if you open a little tech shop I will move from Seattle to Canada to work there. I have a degree in video production and journalism, a background in IT and grew up getting parts for PCs via a local mom and pop shop/recycler. Nothing beat finding a weird old GPU or strange platform and trying it out. It was so exciting and I want to bring that positivity back to the community, I miss it too.
Influencers should be not called that. i was never influenced by any youtuber or whatever. Entertainers maybe? As Linus said, we are a media group. That!
Yes, but just because you aren't. doesn't mean others aren't also, that's kind of the job to do that
You have never bought anything or been anywhere that you first learned about from somebody online? Quite impressive.
@@stoptheinsanity34 nope. i don't need to. i am that guy that can send AT commands to a modem from terminal in Windows and not use the software. i have built my own house and use a computer for more than 15 years if possible. you would not understand probably. i cannot be influenced. i am here on wan for fun.
@@SuspiciousArayou are full of crap. you are getting influenzed bye every person that even just move a chair that you sit days later. a bir singing is influencing your life 😂
Marques won't talk about it , he wants to have Elon to his show again...
He probably won’t, but he has made a video on how bad/dangerous Tesla’s “full self” driving is
Because alleged information that is easily proven false isn't worth talking about
As I lean professional who does it for a living, I can assure you the value stream map is a really powerful tool to help you identify low hanging fruits and help you find bottlenecks in the process. It is looking at whole value stream at a macro scale.
Linus, your ice water story reminded me of my commercial driving class, in which my instructor taught us incorrectly to not signal into a roundabout. I confronted him on the inaccuracy because not signaling on approach to a roundabout is dangerous and impedes traffic, and he had another instructor confront me in a threatening manner.
There are legitimate reasons for leaning on Elon's data (or for that matter anyone on the team) harder. He was using it first, more, for longer. He gives more feedback and gives it accurately and directly to the right people in the team. It's much easier to fix, test and iterate on internal data than data from anywhere else. He can test unreleased fixes and updates before anyone else can. If he's using it every day and it keeps missing the same stop sign you don't think they should be able to fix that ? The same cannot be said about random youtubers and influencers though. Unless they have a special arrangement with them that gives their data some of the same advantages as internal data.
How would you know Elon gives more and more accurate feedback? When does Elon have the time to give constructive feedback?
you guys should really talk more about the super chats and your merch message at the beginning soo people that dont know are not wasting anything time/money
you guys are the only one's who just refuse it but still keep the money.
I do agree I feel bad 4 that one person who dropped over $100 because he didn't know 😅 😢
I know it’s weird for clips but when yall are in the dark I think it’s cozy for some reason
Dan's malignant tumor joke at around 3:15:27 made me laugh until my stomach really hurt
Tesla caught being disingenuous again? Who ever could have seen this coming!
It's not disingenuous. This is how all large software programs are developed. Software developers give beta testers new versions first and so long as it's working better than the last public release, it's released to regular customers. Tesla's regular customers get the exact same software as early access testers. Conflating this with the "Golden Sample" scam is just bizarre.
@@sjwright2 your comment history has multiple comments riding papa musk. This isn't beta testing, if it was it would be disclosed.
This isn't at all how all major programs are developed, what are you smoking? 😂😂
It's simple! Tesla prioritized improving the experience for users with large social followings, without telling anyone, so the product looks better than the actual average user experience.
If you don't understand how this directly equates to the Golden sample scam, you lack critical thinking skills or are 3 weasels in a trench coat on an astroturfing campaign for musk.
Textbook disingenuous business practices.
Sad either way.
Left an in depth reply and it got nuked within a minute.
Online censorship is getting bad.
Either way this guy is full of crap and is making false equivalencies because he either doesn't understand the situation or is 3 weasels in a trench coat astroturfing for musk.
Just check their comment history.
@@sjwright2 Except that in this case the only people benifitting are people who have a large enough following to be considered important by Tesla. You will only see a benefit if you drive on very similar roads as "VIP users." There would be nothing wrong with this if Tesla disclosed this to the public, but they did not.
@@cronchcrunch If this was true, there would be ample evidence. After all, this software is in the hands of hundreds of thousands of Tesla customers. There are plenty of people posting videos of their FSD drives to UA-cam who aren't part of the early access program. And their experience seems to be pretty much identical to the experience of the so called "influencers", for a given version of the software.
FSD definitely works better in some cities than in others, but this is becoming noticeably less true with every release. That's the opposite of what you'd expect if Tesla engineers were over-fitting the training data for Elon's personal routes.
(When looking at a UA-cam video of FSD in action, you need to factor in whether the video is showing "everyday" driving or if they're explicitly looking for the most difficult situations. Some do the former, but most so-called "influencers" scour their local area for roads which expose limitations in FSD because anything else is boring.)
I feel like all this speculation around FSD is meaningless either it will work or it will not. Given the state of waymo and all the other automakers giving up on FSD, Tesla is the only real player in this space.
Also the influencer thing is not that scandalous as one might perceive it to be. How is it any more different than waymo selecting certain routes to operate?
Waymo has a building full of remote operators who take over driving whenever the vehicle encounters something unusual. It can't even drive within its geofenced areas on its own.
If you think Tesla is the only real player in FSD, you didn’t look at what automakers are doing to get perspective. You’re biased toward Tesla, clearly. Everyone else is doing the research to advance FSD, but everyone else isn’t beta testing their partial self driving on all of their cars.
Other automakers are only releasing specific levels of driving assistance and not calling it autopilot or FSD.
@@robertp457 I know what other automakers are doing. None of the US or Euro automakers are doing serious development on systems comparable to FSD. Ford and GM were, but have since abandoned these efforts. There are a number of Chinese automakers developing FSD-like systems, to varying degrees of success. Comma OpenPilot deserves an honourable mention, though it's not really attempting to be an FSD competitor.
True city street driving is a gargantuan mountain of edge cases. There's no alternative to collecting data from hundreds of millions of real-world miles on real-world roads, and no serious researcher says otherwise. Tesla is "beta testing" FSD with customers because it's literally the only (economically feasible) way to get enough data to make it work.
3D movies are simply amazing in VR. Watching on a TV or at the theatres, there is just no comparison. VR blows it away, even on low res headsets. The downside is getting 3D bluray to play on VR. It's a ball ache ripping a bluray and converting it to SBS format.
1:00:27 We have these 3D laptops at work, Acer ConceptD (D 7 if i remember correctly), they are 11th gen with an RTX 3060, with a 4K screen, that becomes 1080p 3D similar to my HTC Evo 3D, but instead of a fixed steroscopic grid, it uses 3 cameras, and like 9 emitters to track your eyes, and adjust that grid so that you usually see 3D from most of the places you could be sitting. There is a pen to manipulate objects in the 3D space.
Tesla FSD is definitly not "Driver Assist." What "Driver Assist" do you guys know that can stop at stop signs, street lights, accelerate itself, get on and of ramps, merge into traffic and take 90 degree turns? I'm not an influencer, and FSD works great all across LA, as well as Seattle when I lived there.
First off it’s not FSD. It’s a beta test released to every Tesla that has the proper hardware. Full Self Driving would not require the driver to pay attention and be prepared to take over at all times. As of today no vehicle has full self driving.
@@robertp457 You're talking about what it's called, I'm talking about what it does. It's not "lane assist," or "driver assist." You can semantic your way into whatever argument, but it can actually take you to point A to Point B without any driver interaction, consistently, and safely. Whatever you call it, no other car has that feature, or does that feature.
I swear, Linus was possessed by Shaggy Rogers from Scooby Do at 0:44
Lmaoooooo.
At around 1:00:00 we get into 3D screens. Linus, I’d just like to say, I still have and use my 3DS. It is such a unique experience that you simply can’t find anywhere else. The thrill of seeing something 3D come out of something without depth is amazing. I would love to see this tech given more light. It deserves it.
Best way to circumvent the Tesla thing is probably to go test the car on roads that you usually don't drive
Linus, Watching WAN Show late.
Your job is to make more scrapyard wars!!!!!!!!!
Ltt is one of the few channels I could watch with my SO, but only when it's fun content. I like some of the more serious rant stuff or technical stuff, but its always a slight disappointment we can't watch the latest video together. Love the fun, passionate content!
Multicam production and Dan here looking like Home Shopping Network, lol.
#LTTSTORE
All those high-sugar cereals, forget that, give me good old Aussie Weet-Bix any day...
Linus, after working at help desks at a University for 20+ years, I've noticed that young people are really reluctant to ask questions. Especially around really bright people (co-workers/fellow students), people are afraid of looking dumb. To force people to ask questions, I have them each to write up questions that they already know the answer to, which someone else may not know the answer to. It works.
1:14:00 I still use my O2 + ODAC from back in the day. I do have a RME ADI-2-PRO FS R and to be honest I can't hear a difference in audio quality. But i bought it because of the features, for that, it is incredible.
That 3D laptop Linus was talking about sounds like how the New 3DS worked, cool!
Lol Linus casually talking about bird being bricked