@OhMyBot I'm with you, but I must say that there is a level of trust that you subconsciously develop when you use a piece of equipment from a certain brand. I'd say it's totally forgiveable, especially for something like a camera where a wrong purchase could easily lead to years of disappointment and/or thousands of dollars. To put it bluntly, better safe than sorry.
Great Video Wex, really a great job.....I'm sold! I just wanted to ask (hope I am the first otherwise I missed it in the Numerous comments!) What filter have you on the camera at 31 seconds in? It looks like a polariser with an adjustment tog but could be wrong, I am really curious to find out. Peace. H
Can't say I agreed with all the points, I have both and the difference is there, which is to be expected, but it's not as night and day for most functions or performance metrics as you've made it out to be, in my opinion. Also, to give your opinion on video and show yourself silhouetted with that blown background kinda reduces credibility.
Didi you notice any Dual ISO like feature in a7s2 as well.? I think A7s2 also has a similar feature at 12800 in slog 2. please check that out and let us know..Thank you for the comparison.
@@arii_playxs7191 Hi both, the tripod we were using for this video is Bucky from 3 Legged Thing, you can find it here: www.wexphotovideo.com/3-legged-thing-legends-bucky-carbon-fibre-tripod-1706409/ Thanks for watching! GJ
I'm still with A7s and deep into astrophotography, any advantages in this area to worth the jump? I have 20+ lenses for it, so it would be perfect upgrade ;)
i’m so on the fence because i love the a7s111 but i am amos eyeballing the fx3 which comes with xlr and grip. they are both around the same price and then there is the a7r v with 61 mp 8k 24 fps video. does rolling shutter only act up when your panning the camera or when it is still on a tripod and there is video movement is there no rolling shutter? thanks for the great review video what should you do with these three cameras your call and decision is appreciated rob
@@MOONLight-os2iu Hi there! So that would have been the Sony G Master 24-70 f/2.8 for this shot, I'm pretty sure. Either that or it's the G Master 70-200 f/2.8. Hope this helps! - Shawn
Glad you enjoyed it! I used the 24-70mm f/2.8 G Master, the 16-35mm f/2.8 G Master and the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 G Master lens for this shoot. I was very impressed with how the AF worked with each of these lenses. Thanks for watching, GJ
Hi Delta Lima! We're very glad you enjoyed our review. We would like to recommend the Sony GM 24-70mm f/2.8. We pretty much only use that lens for everything as you get a good wide angle along with something a bit more telephoto. It's also a 2.8 aperture so shallow depth of field is easily accomplished! Hope this helps! Thank you for watching - Shawn
First of all, 'Great review/comparison'..! I shoot video In extreme low-light with the a7sii. Mostly in (nature/wildlife) situations, at iso's often starting at +104200 So i'm wondering how the noise reduction is in the higher 104200+ iso's ... It's said to be cleaner than the a7a2.. ---But is the s3 cleaning up the noise in the shadows at the cost of details in those high iso's..? ..just like the a73 does? ...if so, that would mean the s2 would still be better for me, as I can easily clean up the 'more' noise in post without loosing the details.. If in the s3 the noise at those high iso's is cleaned up at the cost of the details, ..it would be useless for me, as I cannot bring back lost details in post.... I'm really interested in that particular comparison... really high iso's and the noise vs details in shadows compared to the sii ...
Hi Calen Kennett. The links should be working. I just tried them for myself and they direct straight to the right pages. Let us know if it still isn't working for you and we shall have a closer look into the issue. Thanks for watching! - Shawn
Can you corroborate whether the a7s III records gyroscopic meta-data that, when processed through the Browse app of the Sony Creative Software Catalyst product, can yield superior image stabilization of the sort possible with the FX9? This was mentioned in a July 25 "tidbit" posted by Sony Alpha Rumors, and also in a recent P. Bloom video. But the feature is not explicitly promised in the "features" described at the primary Sony page for the a7s III. Nor have any reviewers, to date, confirmed that the a7s III video files presently contain the gyro meta-data or whether Browse can iron out the bothersome jogging that impairs tracking shots. Better that that tool were an in-camera option, but still important to know whether the Browse approach exists and works.
Really loved this comparison. Very informative. I notice that in an outdoor situation when I am recording in SLog2 on my A7SII the monitor is so dim that I cannot see what I am filming. I understand the slog2 is very flat, but the monitor itself definitely has it's brightness ramped way down. I am curious how the A7SIII's monitor looks with slog2 video recording? Is it brighter and the A7SII?
i feel like I cant do 1080 anymore after upgrading to a 4k monitor. everything looks so unbearably soft and missing detail. the 1080 240p looks unusable to me now
i dont understand what sony do but the image quality of the FS5II is still better than this with 8bit. This camera have a super great image but still look videoish and really dont think u can match with the Fx9, i saw comparissons and FX9 is more creamy not so vibrance
Hi Nico, It does appear the A7S III has some banding on the timestamp you mentioned. I believe this is for two reasons, firstly the UA-cam compression is severe, so some banding may be introduced. Secondly, at that stage in the testing we were filming at over 100,000 ISO, so some banding is likely to appear when taking the camera to such extreme values. I hope you enjoyed the video! GJ.
If you Film even some times with an gimbal the a7s2 is useless. I own this camera and like it really much but the AF makes nearly a useless toy cam on the gimbal. Scenes which has to AF are only usable when tried 30 times or if it is possible to speed up the af time. You nearly has no right focus while filming. Setting AF from 6m to 2Miners takes like 4-10 seconds. Awefull. But do not like the 12MP. I never thought I would miss MP. It’s consumer traplike marketing stuff. But with 12MP you do not have a small range of re framing the shot in post. No room for cropping. So die too am not willing to buy two cams, I think I have to pick the a7s4 because of the useless a7s2 AF. I would prefer the s if it only would have 20mp.
The purpose of the 12 MP in the "S" is the better low-light performance. If you can live with that, sure, get yourself an a7IV. It still has a good ISO performance and you can crop in as much as you want.
Hi, it does appear that the A7S II is brighter, but there is significantly more noise in the shot on the A7S II, so you can push the ISO higher more comfortably on the new body. I did also wonder if the A7S II appears brighter due to the difference in colour science, and the orange hue in the image, rather than actually being brighter, but I will have to wait until I get the camera again to test that! Thanks for watching, GJ.
Hey ,it has focus sensitivity like 1-7 points, it's like managing speed of focusing of the object, current sony camera has standard,fast options in basic cameras but in this camera they changed to 1-7 points speed points based on the requirements. Did you get it now !?
Hi Petru, You are correct, shooting in 10 bit will have no effect on the exposure of the image that comes out of camera. The reason I mentioned exposure is 10 bit video retains more detail and gives you more control to raise or lower the exposure when colour grading. I found this extremely useful, as on the A7S II the 8 bit video does not provide that level of control. Thanks for watching! GJ
Hi Colin, The Sony A7S III is primarily a video camera, and having a high mp count matters less in video than it does in photography. For example, you need around 8mp to record a video in 4k, once you have more mp than that the sensor will be cropped, so it will have no major impact on the image quality of the video. For photography, having a high mp sensor will have a large effect on the quality of your photos and the size of the images, but when filming video it has considerably less of an impact. I hope that clears it up! Thanks for watching, GJ.
The photographer is responsible for the quality of a photograph, not the camera. If you're shit, a 61mp camera is gonna give you a massive shit image. Hope that helps.
After 10 years with Canon gear, your video is pressing my loyalty. Great job and thank you.
@OhMyBot I'm with you, but I must say that there is a level of trust that you subconsciously develop when you use a piece of equipment from a certain brand. I'd say it's totally forgiveable, especially for something like a camera where a wrong purchase could easily lead to years of disappointment and/or thousands of dollars.
To put it bluntly, better safe than sorry.
Going to wait for 6 years from now. With hope to buy A7S III used for 1k used. Seen A7S II for that price, very tempting.
Bro why losing 6 years if you are good ans you are earning money from it. You can earn the money that a7s3 costs with 5-6 projects with it
3 years to go
Sill over £2000 used 😅
Great Video Wex, really a great job.....I'm sold!
I just wanted to ask (hope I am the first otherwise I missed it in the Numerous comments!) What filter have you on the camera at 31 seconds in?
It looks like a polariser with an adjustment tog but could be wrong, I am really curious to find out.
Peace.
H
Hey, I was using a variable ND filter in that shot, they're so useful! Thanks for watching, George.
Can't say I agreed with all the points, I have both and the difference is there, which is to be expected, but it's not as night and day for most functions or performance metrics as you've made it out to be, in my opinion.
Also, to give your opinion on video and show yourself silhouetted with that blown background kinda reduces credibility.
Didi you notice any Dual ISO like feature in a7s2 as well.? I think A7s2 also has a similar feature at 12800 in slog 2. please check that out and let us know..Thank you for the comparison.
Really enjoyed your review/comparison, but what tripod was that? I've been looking for a tripod like that.
Same. Which is it?
@@arii_playxs7191 Hi both, the tripod we were using for this video is Bucky from 3 Legged Thing, you can find it here: www.wexphotovideo.com/3-legged-thing-legends-bucky-carbon-fibre-tripod-1706409/
Thanks for watching! GJ
I'm still with A7s and deep into astrophotography, any advantages in this area to worth the jump? I have 20+ lenses for it, so it would be perfect upgrade ;)
i’m so on the fence because i love the a7s111 but i am amos eyeballing the fx3 which comes with xlr and grip. they are both around the same price and then there is the a7r v with 61 mp 8k 24 fps video. does rolling shutter only act up when your panning the camera or when it is still on a tripod and there is video movement is there no rolling shutter? thanks for the great review video what should you do with these three cameras your call and decision is appreciated
rob
An excelent video but you should also mention the lens you are using in the particular clip.
Can you please tell me which lens you used on 3:20
@@MOONLight-os2iu Hi there! So that would have been the Sony G Master 24-70 f/2.8 for this shot, I'm pretty sure. Either that or it's the G Master 70-200 f/2.8.
Hope this helps! - Shawn
Thanks buddy. And wish you luck for your next videos
it was a very useful video! Thank you!
Does auto focus and i stabilization work with anamorphic lense?
Yes and no - it works but it's not usually recommended
great video! what lenses did you use on this video? did all of them work good with the AF system?
Glad you enjoyed it! I used the 24-70mm f/2.8 G Master, the 16-35mm f/2.8 G Master and the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 G Master lens for this shoot. I was very impressed with how the AF worked with each of these lenses. Thanks for watching, GJ
great review, thank you! what's a good all around sony lens that I could should with that would work with the auto focus feature?
Hi Delta Lima! We're very glad you enjoyed our review. We would like to recommend the Sony GM 24-70mm f/2.8. We pretty much only use that lens for everything as you get a good wide angle along with something a bit more telephoto. It's also a 2.8 aperture so shallow depth of field is easily accomplished!
Hope this helps!
Thank you for watching - Shawn
First of all, 'Great review/comparison'..! I shoot video In extreme low-light with the a7sii. Mostly in (nature/wildlife) situations, at iso's often starting at +104200
So i'm wondering how the noise reduction is in the higher 104200+ iso's ... It's said to be cleaner than the a7a2..
---But is the s3 cleaning up the noise in the shadows at the cost of details in those high iso's..? ..just like the a73 does?
...if so, that would mean the s2 would still be better for me, as I can easily clean up the 'more' noise in post without loosing the details..
If in the s3 the noise at those high iso's is cleaned up at the cost of the details, ..it would be useless for me, as I cannot bring back lost details in post....
I'm really interested in that particular comparison... really high iso's and the noise vs details in shadows compared to the sii ...
I'm sold ... pre-ordered this bad boy. It's basically my FS700 + more in a tiny body.
Exactly! I was super impressed with this camera, I'm thinking of ordering one myself... Thanks for watching! GJ
Your video was helpful. Also, your link to your lenses aren't working...
Hi Calen Kennett. The links should be working. I just tried them for myself and they direct straight to the right pages.
Let us know if it still isn't working for you and we shall have a closer look into the issue.
Thanks for watching! - Shawn
Can you corroborate whether the a7s III records gyroscopic meta-data that, when processed through the Browse app of the Sony Creative Software Catalyst product, can yield superior image stabilization of the sort possible with the FX9? This was mentioned in a July 25 "tidbit" posted by Sony Alpha Rumors, and also in a recent P. Bloom video. But the feature is not explicitly promised in the "features" described at the primary Sony page for the a7s III. Nor have any reviewers, to date, confirmed that the a7s III video files presently contain the gyro meta-data or whether Browse can iron out the bothersome jogging that impairs tracking shots. Better that that tool were an in-camera option, but still important to know whether the Browse approach exists and works.
Which one final winner?
Thank you. Getting the 3. 🎥🎥🎥🎥❤️❤️❤️
Good review. Succinct. Informative.
Wif? what is Wif?
Great review ! Thank you ! We need more comparison footage between the sII and sIII !
@Cade Arthur Definitely, been using flixzone} for years myself :)
@Cade Arthur Definitely, been using flixzone} for months myself :)
@Cade Arthur Yup, I've been using flixzone} for since december myself :D
@Cade Arthur yup, I have been using flixzone} for months myself :)
@Cade Arthur Yea, been watching on flixzone} for since november myself =)
Maybe have more comparisons rather than just showing the a7siii footage….
Really loved this comparison. Very informative. I notice that in an outdoor situation when I am recording in SLog2 on my A7SII the monitor is so dim that I cannot see what I am filming. I understand the slog2 is very flat, but the monitor itself definitely has it's brightness ramped way down. I am curious how the A7SIII's monitor looks with slog2 video recording? Is it brighter and the A7SII?
Thanks for useful review of sony a7s 3
i feel like I cant do 1080 anymore after upgrading to a 4k monitor. everything looks so unbearably soft and missing detail. the 1080 240p looks unusable to me now
I spent that entire time watching the speck of dust in his hair.
lot of new features, but in terms of image quality i dont see 1500usd more
While maybe not more than 5 percent of the users dont use more than 1080p what more from 4k 120fps do you want?
i dont understand what sony do but the image quality of the FS5II is still better than this with 8bit. This camera have a super great image but still look videoish and really dont think u can match with the Fx9, i saw comparissons and FX9 is more creamy not so vibrance
You just be out of your mind lol
a7s iii one love 😍 😍
What files does it record in? mp4 or mov
Hi Max, the A7S III cannot record in .mov, but it can record in .mp4.
Thanks for watching! GJ
Wex Photo Video can it record in anything other than MP4 or do you know if it works with DaVinchi resolve please? Thanks for the reply
@@a.z2972 xavc
@@alguienmas2427 Ive been using it for two months already but thanks 🤣
@7:08 a7s3 got banding?
It's UA-cam that encodes all videos to 8bit.
Hi Nico,
It does appear the A7S III has some banding on the timestamp you mentioned. I believe this is for two reasons, firstly the UA-cam compression is severe, so some banding may be introduced.
Secondly, at that stage in the testing we were filming at over 100,000 ISO, so some banding is likely to appear when taking the camera to such extreme values.
I hope you enjoyed the video! GJ.
If you Film even some times with an gimbal the a7s2 is useless. I own this camera and like it really much but the AF makes nearly a useless toy cam on the gimbal. Scenes which has to AF are only usable when tried 30 times or if it is possible to speed up the af time. You nearly has no right focus while filming. Setting AF from 6m to 2Miners takes like 4-10 seconds. Awefull. But do not like the 12MP. I never thought I would miss MP. It’s consumer traplike marketing stuff. But with 12MP you do not have a small range of re framing the shot in post. No room for cropping. So die too am not willing to buy two cams, I think I have to pick the a7s4 because of the useless a7s2 AF. I would prefer the s if it only would have 20mp.
The purpose of the 12 MP in the "S" is the better low-light performance. If you can live with that, sure, get yourself an a7IV. It still has a good ISO performance and you can crop in as much as you want.
The talking head was hard to watch. Should’ve closed the windows behind you or picked a different spot
7:00 what?? the a7sII is brighter?
Hi, it does appear that the A7S II is brighter, but there is significantly more noise in the shot on the A7S II, so you can push the ISO higher more comfortably on the new body.
I did also wonder if the A7S II appears brighter due to the difference in colour science, and the orange hue in the image, rather than actually being brighter, but I will have to wait until I get the camera again to test that!
Thanks for watching, GJ.
10 bit has nothing to do with exposure
04:16 the worst focus pull ever
Hey ,it has focus sensitivity like 1-7 points, it's like managing speed of focusing of the object, current sony camera has standard,fast options in basic cameras but in this camera they changed to 1-7 points speed points based on the requirements. Did you get it now !?
i stopped watching at the 10bit exposure part.
Hi Petru,
You are correct, shooting in 10 bit will have no effect on the exposure of the image that comes out of camera. The reason I mentioned exposure is 10 bit video retains more detail and gives you more control to raise or lower the exposure when colour grading. I found this extremely useful, as on the A7S II the 8 bit video does not provide that level of control.
Thanks for watching! GJ
Best videos!)
I’m surprised the 2 is pretty junky of af! But I’m not a video guy just curious
4K 120 🥲
Why does nobody mention the fact that it only has 12mp sensor, will this take better images than a 61mp sensor ?
Hi Colin,
The Sony A7S III is primarily a video camera, and having a high mp count matters less in video than it does in photography. For example, you need around 8mp to record a video in 4k, once you have more mp than that the sensor will be cropped, so it will have no major impact on the image quality of the video.
For photography, having a high mp sensor will have a large effect on the quality of your photos and the size of the images, but when filming video it has considerably less of an impact.
I hope that clears it up! Thanks for watching, GJ.
@Type2 Tech Reviews getting the a7r series ,perfect for photography ,high resolutions
The photographer is responsible for the quality of a photograph, not the camera. If you're shit, a 61mp camera is gonna give you a massive shit image. Hope that helps.
Cant understand your accent
Same megapixel, not worth the upgrade