You’d Be Surprised How Smart (Or Dumb) You Are | The Dunning-Kruger Effect
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In this video, we explore the pervasive cognitive bias known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. What does this common phenomenon lead to, both individually and collectively? Can we overcome it? And if so, how?
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Thank you for explaining left-wing mentality. I finally understand how they can know that Hitler is bad but think acting like him is not.
Hey dude it’s “processes” not “process-EEZ”
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The violins, pianos, who are the artists please?
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Recognize that you will feel like the idiot at times. But simply recognizing that is a step that most don't take.
Honestly I think that's the easiest way to check for yourself if you're doing fine or not.
One cannot be enlightened without first stepping out of the "shell" of idiocy.
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” Charles Bukowski
I be feeling stupid like 10 times a day tho
The Earth is Flat.
I always say "The more I learn the more I realize how little I know".
Yup. Every time I learn something, it humbles me once again.
Very true. I came to that conclusion when I obtained my Engineering qualification many years ago.
People will learn a little piece of something and think they're an expert and expert is someone who knows everything of the area and knowing everything brings nothing
Same
I read somewhere that our knowledge is like a circle.
The more we mine out from the circle, the more we realize that the circumference is even greater
"In fact, thinking you're impervious to the Dunning-Krueger effect is itself an example of the Dunning-Krueger effect."
That hit hard.
There literally libraries full of books that have things I don’t know
Same with propaganda: If you think you're immune to brainwashing you're the easiest target for brainwashers.
I think I just entered the Matrix
It's not quite correct, though. Experience can make up for a lot of intelligence when it comes to knowing your boundaries. And there are certain rationales that will work on most subjects, so you can make some estimates even when you don't know much about the subject yet. In my job I'm dealing with both ends of the intelligence spectrum, and I have been repeatedly impressed by not overly smart technicians methodically working their way into new problems.
Looking at it from a psychological perspective, when you rank high in openness and conscientiousness, you actually can be fairly immune to Dunning-Kruger. The effect comes mostly from our subconscious drawing conclusions from a too narrow set of facts. Basically the pattern recognition in our brain running on autopilot. That is something that we can be aware of.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 good car.
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After watching a single 10 minute video on the Dunning-Krueger effect, I now consider myself an expert.
lmaooo
thats exactely the point
Hahaha
At least you're an expert in irony😂👌
Not me. After watching the video, I feel that my knowledge of it is VERY low. In fact, I agree that you are probably an expert on the subject. I feel that the matter is simply too complex to even discuss why I understand so little.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is so paradoxical, since you think you don't know anything and you feel dumb, but then you think you are actually not dumb because you are self-aware, then you think you are kinda smart, then you realize you are overstimating yourself and you feel dumb and the cycle repeats
Spot on ! I think 🤔
Also, it's almost a source of low self-esteem, in a way. If you understand the concept of Dunning-Kruger, then you'll immediately start doubting your own knowledge and abilities.
I look at someone like Roger Federer (I'm a tennis person, so that's the best example I can use... and also noting that I'm replying to a very familiar name ... not sure if this is the ACTUAL Mr Melo, but that would be cool! ) ... Federer once said "I'm one of the best players in the world". Was he wrong? Hell no! He IS one of the best!
Someone asked me once "so, how good were you at tennis?" and I said "well, there's no real answer to that. I was better than most players in my area, but I wasn't good enough to be a pro". Somewhere in between.
So, i think with some topics, you DO know roughly how good you are, although from the outside, to the average person it might have looked like I was a very talented player, I knew I wasn't anywhere near an elite level.
@@GlennSyndallius i'm not Mr. Melo
@@marcelomelo9977 oh well, can't blame a guy for asking! Cheers 🙂
nope =) why conclude you are smart after understanding you are dumb? makes no sense ... is just the dumb mans bitter search of self approval ... just realize a bit more, how dumb you really are, especially when not changing the overall attitude ...
As a man who is dumb of ass, I am slowly unlearning to overestimate my knowledge. But, you should always believe in your _capacity_ to learn & improve.
I realized that too, pretty late though, that I am stupid like a rock.
Took me til I was 28 to realize how much of an idiot I was... still make choices that make me shake my head sometimes (more than I would like to admit)
@@84knucks05 haha me too, same age, now it is a mix between improving the situation, it is pointless, watching self-help crap and procrastinating...
As a man who's ass is of dumb, I strongly agree!
You are learning not to overestimate yourself because you are actually bcoming more competent. Now you are underestimating yourself, still falling to the Dunning Kruger. You can never escape.
"Life is a continuous cycle of realizing how little you knew, how much you were wrong, and how complex things really are... And then realizing it again."
This hit hard.
... and having to endure those people who never realize it.
@@laaaliiiluuuThat indeed is what hurts the most sometimes
Why? I think it's fun. Just discovering how much shit there actually is to know, and then realizing that there was even more you just couldn't imagine previously... We live in amazing times.
Life is funny, let your time here be :)
Haha
Ending every claim with “idk though I’m not an expert” makes me immune to the dunning-kruger effect and also the consequences of anyone actually listening to my advice
No. Because if you are an expert and say you are not, you've still participated in the effect on the other end of the spectrum. lol
@@phillystevesteak6982 sounds complicated so not true.
@@Hawkenshmire Lol. This was discussed in the video. I don't know what to tell you. If denial is more appealing to you, then by all means
🤣🤣🤣
@@phillystevesteak6982
This isn’t reverse psychology so SHUT UP🤣
When i was in sixth grade i had an art teacher who was one of those super eccentric artsy types. He walked in the first day after we all sat down and said "You are all stupid. You dont know what you dont know."
He wasnt being an asshole, he was making a point and figuring out what type of children we were. Being close minded was a very good way to fail his class. Im in my mid thirties now and hes the only teacher i remember from that time, and hes easily my favorite teacher ive ever had.
That’s an awesome teacher! I think we all could have done with that fact of reality in our adolescence, thinking we know everything haha
We need both open and closed minded people
It seems he confused stupidity with ignorance.
Make sure you let that teacher know! People who take risks like that and deeply affect people should be encouraged that they're making a difference.
You werent stupid. You lacked knowledge.
“A fool believes themselves to be wise, a wise man knows himself to be a fool.”
What if wise person think he is wise then?
@@skyrisesenpaiii678 he becomes a fool until he acknowledges it
That's why we need each other. No single person is able to understand or know everything. Collaborating our knowledge and skills, instead of competing and tearing each other down for not knowing, is how society grows and gets better.
Thanks for making this great content!!
Exactly! We need each other as a group, and we need to respect that fact.
No. Not the 🥴folks lol they are too “heavy” to be around
You hit the nail straight on the bro! At my job even though I might know the answer I will still ask others for their point of view!: it's not about my ego it's about getting the job done right!👍 Good comment bro👌
Couldn't agree more In this one. Spot ON!
“After a certain point, the quantity of opinions one holds is almost always inversely proportional to the quality and accuracy of them”
So it then so again what yes or no who if that thing poor for actually bias competent abilities surface argue cause know scale right flip thus tend estimate rank drive work done can better reflect play zone thinking
@@mema7948Huh?
My friend says “the confidence in the answer exceeds the quality of the answer.”
@@mema7948 Well said.
@@ghostslikeme go then so you point if not why huh?
Narcissists, with their strange ability to genuinely believe they are always right, and superior, are the ultimate Dunning-Kruger club members. I've lived with one for many years and my advice would be to put as much distance as you can between yourselves and them. They severely damage your wellbeing.
The world is a mass competition: The ones who can overestimate themselves more believably are the winners.
Grandiosity and martyrdom, the two schools of narcissistic personality disorder nowadays are well payed by attention. They don't need to know something, they only need to make you believe they know something, in order to get what they want: narcissistic supply.
What if they are always right?
I did too. I felt more at ease once i distant myself from them.
@@mollykeane2571 impossible
As an aspiring npd who is healing themselves, I agree
We are complex creatures and recognizing our weaknesses is an actual strength.
"Inappropriate confidence...buoyed by something that feels like knowledge..." I love that quote, it describes so many people I know.
They all think it describes you lol joking. 😂
yes, probably@@mengmar1
@@mengmar1 You are actually correct. everyone thinks that everyone except themselves is full of shit.
I’m happy to realize how unremarkable I really am as I get older, it’s actually freeing because you don’t feel as bad about your achievements or lack thereof. If you think you’re a genius and better than everyone but your life is in shambles, you have to reconcile the two. I’m happy being average, the ego lost its power.
That's a really interesting point 🤔. Huh. I never thought about it like that before.
Wow, I should start thinking of myself from that point of view.
I'm probably dumber than I thought and I've just always thought of myself more highly than I should.
So basically you have no backbone and don't know your own power...
i’m scared i might be this kinda person without even realizing it..
You will experience lots of situations in your life where your work will get judged by external sources. When you always think they're doing you wrong, you might want to do a checkup on yourself😂
EVERYONE is this kinda person, that's the thing, it literally effects everyone, if you think it doesn't apply to you that is itself applying to you. do not be scared of it, merely recognise that you are incompetent like the vast majority (myself very much included)and stay silent in places that your voice is not needed and speak up in places that you are actually experted in.
@@jasonschuele115
How do you know if you're an "expert" in something?
What about situations where your logic tells you that so called "experts" are most likely to be wrong about something?
That fear will keep you ignorant. Coming to terms with it will open the door to escaping this predicament and truly growing. Do NOT be afraid if you truly desire to improve.
Indeed this in every person, but it depends on what we are talking about. If we are talking about beeing ''expertised'', i'd assume this means you know what you are talking about basically. But if we are talking about normal social situations where a conversation is happening in a group, and you are ''incompetent'' in the area they're discussing or whatever, you are absolutely not lost whatsoever. You can enter in the conversation with a clear head, and pose questions if possible and think trough about it. Most people don't listen anymore, if you are able to listen and pickup bits of information you can construct good responses and are able to interact and learn more etc.. love yourself, remove pessimistic thinking and actively look out for it, then you can enter, anxious you'll be but in the end you'll build a new routine and you'll feel free.
Idk that's just kinda my take on this topic.
My whole adult life I've been way too preoccupied with how smart or not smart I am in relation to others. One day it occurred to me that what I really was preoccupied with was my status in relation to others. The brains/no brains was just a hook to hang my thoughts on,
yea...as they say, intellectuals replaced the jocks
A huge amount of what motivates anyone to do anything is status.
It's true. When I was younger I used to look down on it, but now I understand that it's human nature to always be trying to triangulate where you are in relation to others. @@Pneumanon
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russell
"I only know that I don't know."
Socrates
Unfortunately the Socratic method doesn't work with the very people it's supposed to help the most.. ask me how I know 😞
PS: "People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do" Isaac Asimov 😉
Once you realise that the real problem is that money always controls everything, every agenda. And that those fanatics are just exploited... That's all you need to know. Look at covid.
Lol quoting Bertrand Russell is bad enough. He manipulated and believed humanity to be composed of idiots easily brainwashed.
@@joansparky4439 Asimov had 15 Ph.D.s (14 were honorary) so he had good reason to be able to say that.
One of the major problems of the society is that dumb people are confident, while smart people are full of doubts.
Einstein was the best example of the dunning krueger effect.
If dumb people weren't at least confident, there wouldn't be any jobs for them.
I put myself in between this... but more likely i know nothing
Yeah he was a showman and Had a brilliant mathematician Wife, not a physicist or inventor at all that was Tesla@@everythingisalllies2141
@@everythingisalllies2141Einstein thought he was a dummy?
Literally me. I used to think that I could pass an exam with just a little review, until the exam results came out...
I'd go into an exam unprepared and come out thinking I had passed, then retake it after having failed (and studied for months before the second take) and think that there's no way I passed that, only to learn that I did fairly well this time.
It seems that if you're bad at something, you focus and the parts you did well, while if you're good at the same thing, you focus on the parts where you messed up, which majorly skews your perspective.
What a razor sharp script. And incredible insightfulness. The ability to communicate so effectively, a relatively abstract and complicated subject, in a clear, concise and engaging way, is truly masterful. Subscribed.
This makes sence.. I often wonder why people who seem so vapid and unintelligible seem to get so far in life.. often I see very stupid people in high positions.. and on the other side, smart people wasting their lives and even hindering themselves..
🙄
Stupidity, as in lack of intelligence, is not the main issue with Dunning-Kruger. Look at the Big5 personality model, and play through some of the possible combinations of traits in your head, and you will understand. Plus, when it comes to careers, the difference between success and failure is actually doing things. Intelligence is just potential than someone can live up to or not.
@@Volkbrechtintelligent and creative people are not consistent. The flow of thoughts are varying a lot. Whereas not so intelligent people are not consistent and they do things
Many highly skilled and knowledgeable people end up nowhere because they are barely noticeable and lack confidence, whereas the less talented and less skilled people that have a strong self-belief and are loud about themselves tend to get to higher positions with half as much knowledge and talent.
@@anyaanya-gf6lz As popular wisdom has it: do good things and talk about them ;)
This video came up at the right time in my life. I just started a new nursing role on Monday. It's a management role. My job role is clinical supervisor. OMG! I am in training just now and feel like a dunce. The trainers are great but they are really going for it, very intense. Having to diagnose and triage patients based on what the clinical support worker has gained knowledge of from the patient.
Today we did mock Triaging. I had all my bits of paper and was a bag of nerves. I felt overwhelmed. The trainer was playing the part of the CSW and I had to get the patient synopsis and then use critical and clinical thinking to determine the urgency and outcome. I felt like I was useless! We have to pass every single assessment every day for 1 month or it's bye bye!!!!
Thankfully the trainer threw me a bone, told me to put the paperwork down and said " you are an experienced nurse. Go with what you know and don't over complicate it" It really helped me and I got better after 4 scenarios! I still feel like I'm floundering but I will keep trying.
This video made me realise that I think I am not good enough at times which has an impact on confidence etc. Definitely something I need to work on. Sorry for the blurb. It's been a mad day and just wanted to say thanks to the Chanel for this video. Stay humble and know your worth and know when you don't know?
You're going to be great! Discard that self doubt.
@@jouleskelvin Thanks for you positive words 🫶
If you ever doubt your ability to be an effective communicator, don't....
You comment is one one of the best composed and constructed writs I've read all today. It was joy to read.
@@JacquesMare thank you so much that is incredibly kind of you. Well I have completed my training and I passed everything. Today was my last day! So now I am all set to start out in my new nursing career. I really appreciate your lovely words.
I don’t know anything about nursing at all. That said, I know I would have CRUSHED your new job on day one. 😉
You’re about a month in now. Hope it’s all going well for you.
"It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance."
--Thomas Sowell
About a month ago, I had to say goodbye to a friend I've known since 1997. The results of his stupidity and Dunning-Kruger infected actions and ideas, had a nasty tendency to land on my desktop.
I finally had enough. My point is, that stupidity can be a huge problem, and the Dunning-Kruger effect is often a big part of it.
I got a 3d printer last fall and thought “I’m a mechanically inclined guy, I bet I’ll do new and exciting things with it that the ‘nerdy’ guys haven’t thought of” wow, I’ve yet to design anything that doesn’t already exist in much better form one hundred times over.
A 3D printer is just a tool that smart people can use to create their ideas.
You'll think of something.
Have you tried printing a 3D printer?
Shout out to all the people who heard the “quieter, harder to parse, or still looking for the right words and means to express themself” part and unironically thought “Omg that’s me”
Bro's roasting my ass😭😭
same💀
It’s not only about you. When he says you it’s to all the viewers, not anyone personally. It’s like the plural you.
@@SchgurmTewehr bro, there's always that one guy who doesn't get the joke!! And here it's you💀
@@poganlaul6484 how’s it a joke? The dunning Kruger effect is not about taking things personally so it’s not irony.
@@SchgurmTewehr judging by the way you are trying to be smart, for example-(when he says you, it's to all the viewers-🤡)I think you are the perfect example of dunning Kruger effect! Like I know it's not about me but I was only trying to make a joke out of it! But I don't think you found it very funny
The essence of wisdom is to know what you do not know.
The more you learn, the more you realize how much you do not know.
The better you get at something, the more you feel inadequate.
This is what drives people to keep pushing their limits whether be sports or academics or life skills.
I would like to announce that I am largely incompetent and ignorant. I hardly know anything, I'm often confused and aimless and I wish there were more often simple solutions to all kinds of problems in life.
You're pretty overconfident to assume you know that you are incompetent.
/sarcasm
And how do you know this?
@@toughenupfluffy7294 Life experience suggested this conclusion to me.
Recognizing when you are at that level of duning Kruger is pretty powerful as you understand the full depth and the full ignorance of both sides of the spectrum a true middle ground where your perspective is in touch with all levels in the field.
Now and after watching this video, I can say that I'm very experienced about the Donning-Krewger effect!
I'm happy knowing I'm smart enough to know that I'm not that smart😅
We have an idiom relating to the same effect in hindi that is,
'Adhajal gagari chhalkat jaye', meaning a half filled vessel spills water.
"The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are a member of the Dunning-Kruger Effect". Nice I See that these guys watched fight club. It's an interesting video. I think my government needs to watch this video and maybe also my ex from 2021. Anyway very thoughtful. Thank you for reading my comment. This comment was sponsored by my brother - Because he is paying for my Wifi. Thank you bro.
Thanks, bro!
The thing is, I cycle between the Dunning-Kruger Effect and the Impostor Syndrome. I think it's a rather toxic cycle to be in and I have to find a good alternative to this. In my field of work, confidence is the key to everything or else I might end up with no clients. I, of course, tell my clients that I am not as good as they think I am (which is true) and that I am merely good at pretending that I am. The only side-effect I can think of is that to pretend convincingly, I would have to convince myself that I am who I portray myself to be at that moment; the best lies are half-truths or lies that one believes in so much that it has become truth. I know that I am not the best at what I do; there are others out there who are better than I am, but to keep myself from feeling like an impostor, I also pat myself on the shoulder and tell myself that even though I am good, I still have a long way to go, there is always more room to grow, and that I will always be susceptible to making mistakes - they are inevitable.
And all of that is okay.
I think every single person goes through this. You always feel like an imposter at first. But slowly, you start to understand that even though you're not THE BEST, you know way more about your work than your clients do.
I'm a biologist, and I often feel inadequate when I come across something I can't quite understand or I have some math problem that I'm struggling with. There are absolutely better biologists out there, but I have a trustworthy set of hands, and I can still contribute a lot without understanding every single detail.
There's only one thing I can do that others can't, which is very likely why I got the job. Every day is an opportunity for you to improve and learn something new. If you sincerely put your heart into your work and do the best job you can, then I don't think anyone can complain.
You know what you know and you'll work on learning what you don't.
@@jakegerstein Aweee thank you for this. It's encouraging to know that I'm not alone. ❤️
@jdb6026 My father was an ER doctor, and he told me he felt like an imposter for years. He was a pretty good doctor, too. But I think every intelligent person understands there's a lot of things that they don't know.
Stupid people don't even know what they don't know. They're not even aware that knowledge exists. Imagine how little you would have to understand about the world to vote for Trump. You have to know absolutely nothing to support that guy.
I've incorporated this in my life. I compliment someone on their intelligence, and if they wholeheartedly agree, I secretly to myself question it. But if they demonstrate humility, then give them the benefit of the doubt.
as i always say: no one is perfect but everyone is special
"Life is a continuous cycle of realizing how little you knew, how much you where wrong, and how complex things really are. And then, realizing it again. "
-This has been my life philosophy since I was a child
Every college student should watch this video. The value of nuance and not being 100% confident in everything, and the difference between what trustworthy and untrustworthy voices sound like, is something so underrecognized.
And of course, I cannot say that I do these things perfectly, or even necessarily well either! All I can say is that I am trying to learn.
*"Fools (the incompetent) rush in where the wise (the competent) tread carefully." - Old Proverb*
"Wise men say, 'Only fools rush in,' but I can't help falling in love with you."-by Hugo Peretti, Luigi Creatore, and George David Weiss. Elvis only sang and performed it.
90% of the guys I know who have a little money and a good car fall into this category. They view their relative success as an indicator of their intelligence .
The ego is a big factor in their daily lives that they don’t even seem aware of it.
Ambition beyond ability is how I call it. Unfortunately today many politicians are cursed with it.
Most genuinely intelligent and successful people drive 5-10 year old basic and well maintained cars chosen for their reliability above all. There are the unicorn Uber rich but I’m talking about successful middle class folks
Werent there later more studies which found that the dunning Kruger effect is kind of not an actual thing, that it's much less pronounced than initially thought
Yeah, pretty much. The original paper is horribly misrepresented in pop culture, too. It's often thought to mean "incompetent thinks they're the real expert" when in reality the study was just showing that people's perception is skewed towards slightly above the mean as in "subpar thinks they're average" and "expert thinks they're merely above average"
Very well said. I have defenitly noticed our society mistakes confidence as ability.
Most especially when people have coin, connections, clout, crews, computer code, communities, and opportunities. Those people may actually lack talent, discipline, skill, experience, etc. But why would any of THOSE matter?! Wealth is health, might is right... and there is great power in numbers. Just look at any war of attrition, and you'll immediately realize that anyone with three-million dollars could outdo or outperform every single person with only three-thousand. #DUH Their lack of skills wouldn't even matter; they could immediately spend their way to "victory".
I love how some people tell the stories about "how i met these kind of people in my life" instead of looking at ourselves and introspect "hmm, maybe i'm the idiot?".
That is indeed a sign of the dunning-Kruger effect in real time...
Never really commented, but been on this journey with you since 2020. Bro your content feeds the very essence of my being. I am like a child excited to watch new episodes of their favorite series, every time I see that notification 😂. Man I wish you posted more regular.....
When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought, “On no, NOT another vid on the DK effect!” But I sat through it still, and found that it is still refreshing, indeed one of the best presentations on this topic: incisive & thought provoking.
I've been more frequently positively surprised about outcomes than negatively surprised. But that is no accident. I lack courage to 'swing for the fences'. And I'm usually more surprised when my feelings or expectations are off in either direction.
People tell me I'm very intelligent. I used to love hearing that until I realized the self defeat of the pride that reduced the ambition to improve. I have serious flaws and improvement would have helped a lot. I see mixed results in my history. I see that circumstance led to my gift(s) and also to my failings. We know about our choices, but circumstance limits them. I don't imagine anything special about my genetics aside from the fact that it is me. I suppose it also fits that I've had persistent feelings of incompetence in my line of work until more recent years. I have to admit that I'm fairly good at what I do. On the other hand, I get the idea that I lack a thing or two that are beyond my perception.
Recognizing you're incompetent is the first step, here we go.
I think people are all genius in their ways and that's what makes our competences as a collective
Not exactly genius but yea people are different, every individual can make use of himself/herself and excel in some areas and it doesn't have to be the same for like every 10 other people around you.
always be student and sometimes a teacher but never an expert learning never ends when you think you are expert you stop learning and this puts a limit on our potential
Being humble is a sign of meta cognition.
Love your videos, but a way to make them even sharper is by replacing “studies show” with “a study from ____ shows….” or “studies from researchers such as ____ show…”
Doing this or linking your studies to time slots would take your content to the next level! Keep up with the good work :)
4:45 I think the answer to that problem is for the individual and therefore the collective to learn how to understand the experts, rather than forcing the experts to become social masters. That way incompetent social masters don't tempt and trick people, because they stop placing value on the social competency, and therefore are better at identifying intellectual competency
Good idea
The "experts" are liars who most people blindly trust.
Weve been told nothing but lies. We dont know much at all. Admit that and exit the dunning club
There is so much out there. How we use our resources will ultimately determine our successes.
well this explains why i hate one coworker i have that just cant shut up and always talks about random things, i would not mind if he would talk while also acknowledge the things he doesn't know about a certain subject, but he always speaks like he knows 100% that what he is saying is the truth and talks like he is expert at it. Its soo exhausting talking to people like that even when i question something he says he always has (in his mind) the perfect answer making him look like an expert
Just dont listen to him
Knowing how not to do something helps one understand why it is done correctly. Therefore understanding the how-to if you will..
The more I know, the more I know what I don't know.
As seems to be the case in studies like these, the people who need to pay attention to messages like this are the ones most likely to ignore them.
Thanks go out to Dunning-Kruger and thanks to you for reminding us to remind ourselves about it. It's one of the phenomena that make experiencing life so amusing and humbling.
Look at the governments and these global bodies. This is so true.
The Dunning Kruger effect doesn’t exist. It’s a statistical error and plays into our own bias to be smarter than other people. The error got replicated in other studies that tried to debunk it. There is a paper about that.
Only became aware of this resently myself. The Dunning Kruger effect sure sounded legit to me. It made sense.
Can you provide a link to that paper, please
Keep it up pursuit of wonder! I’m always looking forward to your videos you are my favorite UA-cam channel. 👏
I've been heavily thinking about this. I don't feel as smart as I always thought I was. I mean, I'm not dumb, but IDK if I'm as good as I am.
I know for sure I’m a bigger fan of pursuit of wonder than most 🤔🙈
If you HAVE "Wonder", I believe the GOOD Lord hath made His face shine upon YOU!!😳😃😶🫡
Dunning-Kruger club 😂
9:07 I would add the title "On Second Thought" to this. It's about heuristics and how expertise can sometimes put us in life threatening danger.
The Dunning-Krueger effect is similar to our ability in the water. Most people can be in the water when it’s shallow, some can swim less,some can swim on the deeper end, and very few dive.
I'd be quite interested to see the original data around this as while this is catchy and interesting, there are a multitude of other reasons that could explain the results of such studies
the dunning-kruger affect has been well known for a long while, i'm surprised you haven't heard of it yet enough to be skeptical of it's actual methodology considering it's been at the forefront of a lot of academic-education awareness for about 15 years now. I mean, not saying it's not possible, you could've very well just learned of it from this summary, but i'm just genuinely surprised you've managed to evade it as long as you have. it'd be like not knowing that optical illusions are a thing, both are something not totally relevant to everyday life, but atleast the majority of people are aware of exist, you know what i mean?
In case you don't realize it, you are questioning the conclusions of the two foremost authorities in the world on this subject. A perfect example of DK.
@@jasonschuele115 I have heard of the Dunning Kruger Effect but this is the first time i've heard of the methodology and, as described in this video, it doesn't seem to be the best way to prove the hypothesis. In the 1999 study, they gave participants tests (including logical reasoning) and found that those who performed poorly thought they did much better than they did
1. It is not surprising that people who performed badly at reasoning poorly estimated their competency in relation to other people
2. There is tendency for people to assume that they are average - this would cause poor performers to think they are better and good performers to think they are worse. You said you're surprised that I hadn't heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect but i'd estimate that fewer 20% of people in Western countries and fewer than 5-10% of people worldwide know of this so i think you're showing this bias
To prove this thesis, a better study would be to have participants learn something gradually and then test them and to self report their understanding over time or compare it to a control group. You would expect a linear relationship between their understanding of the subject and their test results
@@RussClarkRocksI'm definitely not saying i know more about the subject, I'm just questioning the methodology
@@RFXZ67966 Just razzing you a bit. I read the paper a few years back. I'm no research expert, but it seems well reviewed. Have a great day and thanks for not getting bent out of shape. :)
they are talking about me
It's all about the balance. I currently have to learn that about my relationship to my friends. Am I a good friend by being there for them? At which point am I overbearing? What are my personal needs?
Thank you for producing this type of content!
But, holy crap, what a paradox! It is way too easy to fall victim to cognitive biases.
I am the human Horseshoe theory. I’ll occasionally have an idea so stupid that it works. Like taping my coffee cup to my wrist so I can drink while I drive.
That's a Sigma move, right there.
Does this apply to anti-vaxxers?
and flat earthers LoL
The narrative was written well. Good work.
I think it’s important to aim high regardless of your ability. Because by the time you might discover it, there may be no time left. At least test your self and find out knowing that you tried.
In my opinion you can never fail this way.
No bro I know I'm dumb
Stop eating paint chips.
tRump supporters be like:
And the Biden Dumpster Fire is so much fun! One is not better than the other!
@@marklarsen4424 one is better than the other,morally.
It means there is some hope for the future atleast.
The world became worse after tRump...the rise in neo n*zism was insane
Dwane johnson supporters: 🗿
@@jamueI ?
The worst thing I've run into with the dunning-Krueger effect is if you really are smart and/or knowledgeable in an area people reference this to disregard you...
I never knew that the effect can actually be about underestimating yourself as well.
I know when I'm incompetent, my problem is knowing when I'm competent
👏🏼Loved the vid, I needed it, you guys are awesome as always and I thank you for sharing your time and effort with us 😻✌️
“Knowledge is proud of all that it knows. Wisdom is humble before all that it doesn’t.” As proven by Dunning and Kruger.
"the quantity of ones opinions is almost always inversely proportional to the quality of them" saving that
Now finally there is a term for it, the Dunning-Kruger effect! Thanks for this video!
I like how this interpretation of the dunning kruger effect is an example of what it wrongly calls the dunning kruger effect.
If you feel guilty cause this kind of video is free on UA-cam, you are not alone feeling that.
Thank you Pursuit of Wonder !
It was stonishingly well narrated!
I feel like an expert on the dunning Krueger effect now
I’m glad it’s so many people on here in the middle of the night instead of watching shorts, I’ve watched the top comment change 3 times while watching this video. I guess it’s a more productive way to lose sleep.
The simplest change we can make with the most profound effect on society is for people to know that the loudest and most confident voices are usually wrong. That one awareness would transform all of politics.
I used to hate it when I didn't know something, especially when in college. But then I realized that learning is a lot of really really hard work, so I gave up. Now I'm stupid, but happy as a clam in silk.
Introspection is the key and seldom taught!
Thank you. I was first aware of my self doubt while playing a sport that I excelled at. I used it to drive myself against my competition but still felt like an imposter.
I always underestimate myself and then I either get a positive little surprise and do better than I expected or I fail, either way I don't get disappointed. I can't lose.
That makes 100% sense! Thats why it feels like you know less the more you get to know a language. The more you get to know the more you discover.