Canyon Torque:On Review | 2021 eMTB Shootout
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- The brand new Canyon Torque On was one of the bike our team was thrilled to test at our 2021 eMTB Shootout. After having so much fun riding the Canyon Torque and Sender during last year’s Bike Park Review Tour our team was thrilled to see if the new Torque On would just be a motorized version blending those two bikes together. Due to timing and COVID-19 issues, Canyon North America was unable to send us the American spec, Torque On 8, so instead we received the Torque On 9. Canyon felt comfortable with this as frame materials, geometry and drive units are the same, with the only major difference being suspension and some drivetrain spec. We will reference both bikes in our review below, but please note that we are riding the 9, which is currently not available in North America.
Before we threw a leg of the Canyon Torque On we spent some time on a Zoom meeting with their team where asked them lots of questions, like can we put a 29er up front, why did they chose to spec a 504Wh battery and why is it so low. Canyon Bicycles does not suggest or even hint at converting this bike to a mullet as it will have some negative effects on geometry. As far as the battery size and geometry are concerned, the Torque On is an eMTB designed for a pretty narrow application. In Europe, many bike parks have shorter operating hours, trail centers are all over and have easy up trails that lead to tons of awesome DH trails. The proximity to power, a backup battery and the groomed nature of the uphills meant that Canyon wanted this bike to do one thing above all else: Shred down hills! And to be fair, it does.
What it does not do well however is offer the ability to pedal on rugged, rocky and natural trails. We’ve seen so many comments poking fun at the “2008 seat tube geometry” but that was far less a concern than the bottom bracket height. Even since returning to Oregon after our testing in St. George, Utah, rides aboard the Canyon Torque On have been frustrating. In fact we also received the new Spectral On and were hoping the 29er front and more “trail” purpose eMTB would be better, and sadly, it’s not.
Moving on from the huge climbing hang ups we had with this bike, we’ll discuss where it excels. Any time your pedals are even and you’re going downhill! This makes sense since the bike was designed to shred bike park after all. When it came time to let this bike flow, fly and flick back down the trail, it started to make sense. The insanely short 430mm chainstays certainly don’t help on vertical hill climbs, but get the back end sideways and moving around obstacles with a little hip movement and a tap of the brake if needed. The 485mm reach and slack 63.5-degree head tube angle had our testers comfortably in the center of the bike, feeling relaxed and stable as we charged over huge rocks and loose boulders.
Aiding to the downhill composure and confidence, our testers all really loved the Canyon Torque On’s suspension platform. The 175mm of eMTB-tuned suspension was an absolute treat and blended many of our favorite traits together nicely. Canyon made the Torque feel light and lively while also progressive enough to handle big compressions while not being overly stiff off the top. When our testers were charging down high-speed sections of embedded rock, the rear end remained composed and quickly reacted to each undulation. We didn’t get a ton of feedback in the pedals or handlebars. When it came to some smoother trails where random square-edge rocks waited around blind corners, we were able to let the Canyon Torque On plow into them or give a nice preload and sky out of the corner and land both tires downtrail in the gnar.
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The production value on this channel is through the roof. Keep it up
Thanks very much
Got me locked in. Loam wolf taken the ebike to the next level . Awesome channel !
Haha yes!!! Stoked to hear it.
Are you guys going to do a Spectral ON review?
Yeah the idea behind this bike is more in the way to get you up the fire roads or service roads at bikeparks. Just like the non e version, you can get up, but it's not fun.
Horses for courses. It’s the best way to review ebikes. Keep that point guys!
Thanks Abel, this bike (or horse) is definitely suited to its course.
@@TheLoamWolf thats was i comment on other vídeo, if you take a heavy long 29er to a flowy trail is going to be the worst ebike ever. If you put this Canyon on those rock gardens same happens. People need to be careful when choosing bike.
Regards and death to all those technopharmacommies that are about to destroy your country.
Can’t believe they won’t send the bad ass bike to USA 🇺🇸
Is it just me or does anyone else find themselves humming or singing the opening song nearly all day?🤪
Haha. That means you been watching all our vids!! Thank you
Canyon intended it to be a bikepark bike?
It's analog brother is for bikeparks
I'm interested in when you drive it in trail mode. How far can you drive with that battery because I'm also thinking of ordering it because I ride an average of 40 km with a normal MTB here in Germany in the mountains every second day. 😅
Love this yt channel! Another good honest review. How would this bike compare to the kenevo comp or expert? Bummed specialized aren’t in it this year 👎🏻
Appreciate it. Thanks for watching.
Have you guys got the Scott Ransom Ebike on review?
What is the crank arm length? I switched to 160 on my Lego and pedal strikes are pretty much gone
160
I ride my torque 2 years long and you get used to climbing a lot, but it takes time and maybe shorter cranks
What about battery durability? What are your impressions? Thanks
its crazy yall only have 38.7k followers
Thanks Ben! Help spread the word to your friends and riding crew and that's all we can ask for! We believe in quality over quantity, and we're happy to have such awesome subscribers and fans.
Perfect bike IMO. Just need a shuttle up to the trailhead.
This will be in my stable once available to the public...
$100 for a 190 air shaft for the zeb and one offset bushing. Thatd raise the bb 8mm , head angle the same. With that reach no problem to slide the seat forward enough to make the seat angle 75+ . Hopefully canyon work out a way to bring their emtbs to their new canada distribution
190 Zeb will slacken the HT to 63.0. Offset bushings shorten the eye to eye thus slacken it and lower the BB further which you don’t want. Instead, I would run a 2.6” rear tire to bring the BB up or just run shorter 155-160mm cranks
@@mtbmike9866 turn the one offset bushing the other way. That gives you back steepness and raises the bb. All depends how you orientate the offset bushing
The air shaft is only like $40 isn't it?
Canyon's design choices are pretty frustrating on this bike. I really like Canyon and I would definitely put the Torque at the top of my list or at least tied at the top of my list but I want a "do it all" mountain bike, not a park bike. The Spectral:ON is a great bike but I think the Torque:ON could've been as good or better if they just made it an enduro bike. Mullet, 630 WH, good geo for climbing and descending. Tick all the boxes and people will buy it.
I don't understand why there isn't an enduro between the Spectral On (150mm) and this freerider Torque On (180mm)... Would be the one everbody wants with bigger battery und carbon frame :(
@@Downhill_Phil Agreed bro. That would be perfect.
I agree with you. But i think you can climb with the torque on.
@@MrHomer5012 I’m sure you can but the effective seat angle and bottom bracket height don’t do it any favours for climbing. In its current guise I wouldn’t even consider the torque. I’d go for the Santa Cruz Bullit or if you want something more affordable but still really well spec’d then the Commencal Meta Power.
@@The.JZA. Yes i agree with you ! Or scott ransom eride could be a good choice for downhill and climb !
Good points
How long did the battery last?
there’s no 29er option available?
Why no 29er
27,5?
EXACTLY!!!
No Levo? The best selling ebike of all time?
It’s because of availability as they have specified
@@alextokmakoff6521 It’s also likely to be replaced any time now...
Plus the new redesigned Levo comes out next week, they probably weren't allowed or had the new Levo to ride in time for the shoot out. But they have already hinted to stay tuned in for the new Levo, so maybe an independent review coming out in the coming weeks. I don't know, not really excited about any of the bikes in the shoot out to be honest. If I already owned a 2/3 year old emtb, I would absolutely see no reason to run out and buy a new bike based on any of these to be honest. So far the only new emtb that interest me is the Rise and the upcoming Levo, love the adjustable geo that will have, plus 700wt battery and under 50lbs. Not a Specialized fanboy by any stretch but they just seem light years ahead in engineering and foresight then anyone else. Also, if the rumors of the new Norco VLTs are true, that could be a killer option as well.
@@xfortysd40 Do you know if it’s just the Levo being updated or will it be the Kenevo & SL as well?
@@Mockle07 from what I've heard/read the Kenevo as well but don't think that's being released just yet, believe just the Levo next week and then the Kenevo down the road, no eta on that yet. The new Levo will be 160/150, mullet, carbon only at this time, based on the Stumpy Evo geo with adjustable hta/geo, same 700wt battery, brose motor update as far as being more efficient. This is going off people who have seen and even pre-ordeded through their LBS supposedly. The Kenevo suppos rumors are redesigned based on the Enduro, modular battery. Will see on that. Their supposed to be an announcement on Monday from what I've read about the Levo and official release on Tuesday. If what people are saying are true, I'm in on the new Levo.
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So much money and this thing CANNOT climb?
This channel's loam.
Nowadays, a 74 degree seat tube angle is just worthless.
Less expensive but there are better bikes for a little more money
Depends where/how you ride. For some riders this will be perfect, but it does seem to be a niche bike for sure.