Anyone curious of the umpire decision needs to look at Mozzy Sails vid on this. Explains the situation neutrally, and puts the focus on the umpire decisions here.
Love your passion on this Freddie - it's incredible as a viewer to watch these races, and just as impressive to see your excitement and love for races such as these in your brief cameo role as an "independent" viewer. Keep it up Bud, a glittering career awaits in sports punditry!! Go RITA!!!
Umpires primary focus and responsibility is safety of the competitors, it’s there in black and white. I don’t see how the natural conclusion to decisions not being close enough, to boats getting closer at massive speeds to prove the penalty, will not involve boats getting too close.
Mate today was an absolute banger of a race - well done despite the lack of a point. Edge of the seat racing all the way to the final mark. Great stuff!!
I would like to see the umpire analysis , I think we are entitled. This is a Multi million event here. I will accept the decision but the very unique rules need explaining . Cheers Warren
To me it looks like when Ben Ainslie shows up for interviews he has the attitude of a bully in the principal's office 🤣 really. You say “don't make him angry”, but to us it seems the opposite, that is, when he gets angry he loses clarity. Anyway, a great regatta and congratulations to the English for having put us under great pressure until the end.
A couple of times Jimmy on Luna has asked for more oil ? Have the Italians got a smaller tank than the British or are the cyclors on Ineos working harder and pushing the oil quicker to each side as needed
So it seems Ineos’ protest for the race 4 start was on the basis of rule 11 - on the same tack, overlapped. Why didn’t Ineos protest LR for gybing too close in the race 4 start - rule 15 - acquiring right of way? It’s pretty clear by Ineos’ high-speed crash gybe that LR didn’t give Ineos adequate opportunity to keep clear….
You can tell Ben was pissed off by the way he sailed the boat into the harbour at the end there, usually when you make him angry it doesn't go well for the opposition.
turns out that the AC is sailed by different racing right of way rules than normal racing!! Look at thr definition of right of way what tack you are on. Hard to believe a rule as primary as port starboard right of way but they are. Normal tack is defined by main being filled on one side or the other. NOT SO under A"""C rules! By AC rules Its defined by "true wind" on the yacht" Best determiner of that is actually the jib., when the jib starts to come across and is pointed at the mast the tack you are on changes. luna's drivers knew that, Ineos' did not. Who knew?
No, look carefully. Overlap was established (just) before transom went through TWA 0. Yes, we know the ‘sail filled’ part of the rule doesn’t apply, but nonetheless LR were overlapped upon with both on port. Clear penalty.
Yep these adjusted rules also came into play on the Aug 25th race between Prada and NZ, whereby NZ tacked onto port right in front of Prada on the last upwind leg. Normally rule 13 would be in play, but that rule has been completely scrapped for AC 37, so for the AC, a boat is on the new tack as soon as it passes head to wind (not when it’s on its new close-hauled course)……so in this case, for the 25 Aug race, NZ immediately became the clear ahead, stand-on vessel, and Prada, as the overtaking boat, had to keep clear. All of this despite NZ tacking right in front of Prada. Prada ended up getting penalized.
Just finished making my video... I calculated 0.5 seconds of overlap before LR went on to starboard
Onto port?
@@MozzySails I can believe it Mozzy. Looked stonewall penalty at the time.
@samnorth6893 sorry, starboard! Edited
Anyone curious of the umpire decision needs to look at Mozzy Sails vid on this. Explains the situation neutrally, and puts the focus on the umpire decisions here.
So put your Ump hat on and tell us what that means! It's VERY small time margins ate VERY fast speeds.
Best episode yet. Honest and full of info. You’ve got LR worried. Keep at it and all the best for the next 3 days racing.
Love your passion on this Freddie - it's incredible as a viewer to watch these races, and just as impressive to see your excitement and love for races such as these in your brief cameo role as an "independent" viewer. Keep it up Bud, a glittering career awaits in sports punditry!! Go RITA!!!
Umpires primary focus and responsibility is safety of the competitors, it’s there in black and white.
I don’t see how the natural conclusion to decisions not being close enough, to boats getting closer at massive speeds to prove the penalty, will not involve boats getting too close.
Great racing today. Yesterday was scary at 40+ knots of boat speed.
Ineos all the way.
thanks for all the videos. Great to hear some analysis, and a fair and reasonable assessment. Good luck for the coming races!
Mate today was an absolute banger of a race - well done despite the lack of a point. Edge of the seat racing all the way to the final mark. Great stuff!!
I would like to see the umpire analysis , I think we are entitled. This is a Multi million event here.
I will accept the decision but the very unique rules need explaining .
Cheers Warren
Do other teams have an Ian Williams equivalent? Love his insights!
To me it looks like when Ben Ainslie shows up for interviews he has the attitude of a bully in the principal's office 🤣 really. You say “don't make him angry”, but to us it seems the opposite, that is, when he gets angry he loses clarity.
Anyway, a great regatta and congratulations to the English for having put us under great pressure until the end.
Of course you all agree about that penalty. 😁 of course. But fortunately you are wrong and we won despite too many mistakes by LR crew.
A couple of times Jimmy on Luna has asked for more oil ? Have the Italians got a smaller tank than the British or are the cyclors on Ineos working harder and pushing the oil quicker to each side as needed
The sailors always want more, Brits ask the same "Big push here.."
So it seems Ineos’ protest for the race 4 start was on the basis of rule 11 - on the same tack, overlapped. Why didn’t Ineos protest LR for gybing too close in the race 4 start - rule 15 - acquiring right of way? It’s pretty clear by Ineos’ high-speed crash gybe that LR didn’t give Ineos adequate opportunity to keep clear….
with LRPP on a sub optimal main I think, if Giles was helm, Britannia would have been sailed less aggressively and won it on pure speed
I agree. LR didn't win it , Ineos lost it.
You can tell Ben was pissed off by the way he sailed the boat into the harbour at the end there, usually when you make him angry it doesn't go well for the opposition.
pom….blah blah blah
turns out that the AC is sailed by different racing right of way rules than normal racing!! Look at thr definition of right of way what tack you are on. Hard to believe a rule as primary as port starboard right of way but they are. Normal tack is defined by main being filled on one side or the other. NOT SO under A"""C rules! By AC rules Its defined by "true wind" on the yacht" Best determiner of that is actually the jib., when the jib starts to come across and is pointed at the mast the tack you are on changes. luna's drivers knew that, Ineos' did not. Who knew?
No, look carefully. Overlap was established (just) before transom went through TWA 0.
Yes, we know the ‘sail filled’ part of the rule doesn’t apply, but nonetheless LR were overlapped upon with both on port. Clear penalty.
Yep these adjusted rules also came into play on the Aug 25th race between Prada and NZ, whereby NZ tacked onto port right in front of Prada on the last upwind leg. Normally rule 13 would be in play, but that rule has been completely scrapped for AC 37, so for the AC, a boat is on the new tack as soon as it passes head to wind (not when it’s on its new close-hauled course)……so in this case, for the 25 Aug race, NZ immediately became the clear ahead, stand-on vessel, and Prada, as the overtaking boat, had to keep clear. All of this despite NZ tacking right in front of Prada. Prada ended up getting penalized.
Don't make Ainslie angry :(
It's his anger and lack of clear mind that cost them the race.
Ben is a dictator under pressure, Dylan was silent , no input or comms from anyone on the boat just Ben barking madly
forza italia ;-)
poms….blah blah blah
Love this, was wondering when the Italians were going to start calling us poms :-)
Does anyone know where can i see that virtual eye footage?
Ac37 website
poms…..blah blah blah