The reason Mrs Applebaum stresses the importance of social media, is because it IS so important. In my old days, you needed to be aware whether something your read or saw was true or not. Now we need to be aware WHY we see this content. That is a whole new level. Which humanity is not used to yet.
the thing is a year ago I would have agreed that fake content is a huge problem but the Gaza war just showed me how deeply entrenched our media is in propaganda and in touting government lines and social media was my only source of truth, at least if you have good media literacy. I think older people struggle more with fake news
@@berhanxoan interesting take. Although there is the counterargument that older generations would have a much better grounding in world history, and so would spot the incongruities typical of fake news easier.
hilariously Zelenkij is the President of the country which is much more CORRUPT ( by a magnitude of 10 ! ) than Orban's Hungary ... and while Applebaum is 'dumping' on Hungary's Orban as the 'evil doer' and she is totally blind to UKRaine's corruption ( mainly because since Zelenkij is the 'creature' of NATO/USA ... so anything is allowed ! 😞 )
yeh, no voting, marshall, law, no position parties, continuing in government after your allotted term has ended without further elections being granted - that's Zelensky for you
@@draculasneeze6681Yeah, let’s just ignore the elephant in the room about his country getting invaded by an evil empire with an autocrat at the helm. Of course there’s gonna be martial law when Ukraine is at - you know - *war*. I sure hope you don’t expect a potato for this thick attempt at propaganda, Ivan.
There are two different but connected problems: - degradation (corruption) of democracy in certain countries - the degradation of international institutions like UN, international courts Seing that tne international institutions don' t work well, people are ready to support strong leaders. .. So, the erosion of democracy started by the end of the cold war. .. As the US considered themselves winners - they started to destroy the international institutions (at least, by ignoring them).
@@rbitrossome No he's not - you can't even spell his name right, and he's "Distinguished Service Professor" (which I'd hazard is the US equivalent of Emeritus Professor) at Chicago University, in Political Science and International Relations, and is the developer of the doctrine of 'offensive realism' ; and for you to categorize him so lazily as an apologist for dictators just shows your utter ignorance. His view of these subjects is more complex and nuanced than it sounds like you're capable of understanding, so I'm far from sure it's worth recommending you to listen to what he has to say. The phrase "Pearls before Swine" springs to mind, though I'm sure you look nothing like a pig ('Not so sure about the popcorn freak tho').
If we nationally admit to ourselves that we are functioning as the money laundering capital of the world, that we are essentially creating the conditions which allow these people to do what they do, what then? Our idea of ourselves will be shattered and we shall be forced to develop a new one. I'm not opposed to this. In principle anything which can be destroyed by truth should be. A national myth which doesn't survive contact with direct sunlight should be discarded immediately.
with all due respect to your contribution to oligarch money laundering, but you will never beat Switzerland, Monaco, Cyprus or many others in this context 😀
To stop this needless ruSSia war against Ukraine payments for ruSSian oil and gas needs to be placed into an escrow account with the attachment payments is due when the ruSSian military has departed Ukrainian soil
Solid US and UK education, then decades of experience analyzing international politics, plus direct relationships with Poland (a country whose history showed how to get rid of Soviet imperialism) - a perfect mix for an expert on the subject of this discussion.
That was way too short. I could've listened to her for hours. Disappointed that both Rory and Alistair coulodn't bring themselves to condemn Johnson/Ledbedev more harshly and acknowledge just how corrupt the British political sysstem is. We have a Russian Oligarch in the House of Lords, FFS! Where is Starmer's 'reform' of the Lords?
I'm so delighted to know with confidence that the US political system isn't run by wealthy individuals or super powerful Industries and their money has no negative effects in the US or abroad. What a relief !
Are you that naive of not knowing that U S Corporations is the Person which was made by U S Government by Neo-Capitalism. Our economy is rented economy; they love you for your bliss of ingorance.
Anne probably wouldn't be the best guest to untangle how western far right became so pro-Russian, as it is not only a story of political influence, but also of culture war, and even though she mentioned Orban being good at addressing people's anxieties and was very poignant about fear of modernity, she doesn't seem to get into anti-establishment populist mind so easily. Perhaps good for her, but I think it would be great if somebody would tell Rory and Alistair to their faces in what ways, aside for global financial crisis, former political elites, them included, basically rolled out the red carpet for pro Russian populists of the future.
The shocking wealth inequality in the USA and Britain, the essential writing off of the less wealthy majority of the population, these are not due to some foreign influence (even if foreign oligarchs benefit from this-and in the case of housing costs-make the problem worse). "Democracy" has become a rather slippery term-and a relative one. Of course, while there are many examples of republics-good and bad- there are few examples of central government democracies-because, really, such a government has historically never existed. The only way Athens was "democratic" was by restricting the franchise to native born men who had served in the military- slaves, foreigners, women and those who never served in the military were not eligible. Is this kind of "rigged democracy" really the best form of government? The USA can be considered a "corrupted plutocratic republic" with (also!) some genuinely democratic features-as well as a military/industrial complex and a global empire (hey, that didn't stop the republican Romans!). Britain, if anything, is even further from a democracy-it is definitely not a republic at all, but rather this "constitutional Monarchy".
western far right does not want money to go for ideologies. Those who want to support they send THEIR money. If we say we are "democratic", or you are nothing but work through diktats
@@motherlesschild102 The biggest problem facing the West is a lack of consequence and accountability. Look at the migrant crisis in Europe with people blaming the migrants and refugees and not the policy and the people who started needless wars. If the war by Russia ends today, after 15 years (2039) there is no way in hell she would seat down for an interview by Putin's spokesman Peskov but she doesn't seem to mind doing the same for the architects for the 2003 Iraq war. Over the last 20 years hyper capitalism has stagnated wages, reduced corporate taxes and increased corporate power, schools, hospitals and infrastructure are collapsing while the economy somehow grows.
@@michaelotieno6524 I agree with you. And the USA is the #1 Imperialist power on Earth. But why would I be against American Imperialism, inequality, lack of accountability etc. and completely ignore (or be in favor of) when Putin's government does similar things?
I love you Anne Appelbpum. Wife of Radosław Sikorski. The Poland Minister of Foreign Affairs. You made him better man. Better Public Servant. Better Minister. Better Politician. Better Polish national. And member of international society who care for Peace for the World. Thank you. Emilia Olga Marion of Columbia, SC
No human being is completely objective. In analysing anything in this world we always need to be aware of our own personal perspective. This is by having multiple perspectives on the same issue is invaluable
@@sophitsa79 That is true. Nevertheles, you have said multiple perspectives - this lady brings more of the same: Putin bad, we good, we fight. That is what we are already getting from legacy media.
@@lahvancz maybe she comes from a different perspective (i.e. set of expectations, values and biases) and still came to the same conclusion? I don't know if that is true, but it would be interesting if it were true. I feel your frustration - it's difficult to keep searching and feeling like you're not any closer to the truth of things.
The demise of the Soviet Union merely replaced the old ideological conflict between East and West with an even older one, the conflict between nations and their national interests. So, we're back to the 19th century politics of land grabs but fought with 21st century economies and weapons. In this we must understand that the failure of Communism liberated Russia from its absurdities and restrictions allowing for more rational and better balanced growth. In effect, Russia today, allied closely with China, the largest manufacturing power in the world, is a more formidable opponent than the Soviet Union ever was. And this is substantially Putin's accomplishment.
17 millions russian without indoor toilet water, 25 percent russian man die before age 55, on potato cabbage vodka daiet , average mortality age 66 , economy on life support, infrastructure colapsing junk from 90s, hundred feet in the air , geyser of sewege shit in moscow , over 700.00 killed injured on front line putin wantes war criminal enterprice , gift to russian mothers , to russia expending nato , anemy of russia are russian .
There's so much to disagree with here from Applebaum, not least the presumption of superiority of the "democratic" system in the West. I think Alistair and Rory rightly pick up on the flaws in her arguments and conclusions at the end of the programme. 1. She never answers the observant question from Rory as to why Russia and China are getting support from the Global South. She effectively evades the question, going on about social media. 2. She says the Ukraine war can only end if Putin accepts failure of the invasion. Well that aged badly in pretty short order. By all reasonable assessments Ukraine is losing. She has no understanding of what is going to win the war. Logistics, Man power, Economy etc. Look up Jeffrey Sachs and John Merscheimer for a far more sober diagnosis of the situation. 3. She says that other countries are propping up the Russian war. No. It's because it's not their war, or because it's not in their interest to let Russia lose. I wonder if NATO and G7 foreign policy has anything to do with that, duh! I think Alistair and Rory's assessment of her arguments are if anything, lenient. She is very much politicised and unfortunately suffers from a very Western and US centric view of the world. The failure of the West in multiple wars in the Middle East, North Africa and instigation of coups etc don't seem to make any impact on her evaluations whatsoever.
@@johnrotten4871 Yes, most people in Russia are starving to death, while there are 200 million homeless in Russia, also Russia has lost 40 billion men in Ukraine, did you know that?
Regarding 2) a war only ends with a political solution or endgame. Russia will never conquer the entire country. In all likelihood Ukraine will eventually join NATO. The war is a strain on Russia on multiple levels. Yes, Russia makes slow progress and wins tactical battles but is far from any grand strategic victory. It also increases the chances of a revolution within Russia like we saw the start of with Prigozhin.
@@johnrotten4871 Unless you nuke every square inch of the earth, there is no chance, just think about it... how long ago was the 1990's? What is the Russian way of survival? What is the Russian Guarantee of survival? (yes, go to far and just perhaps the "Dr Strangelove" scenario becomes reality). Russia is practically able to keep going without an economy fueled entirely be Vodka, weapons and disgruntled soldiers. Unlike the west that falls apart the moment air support is out of the picture.
@@infostudy101 Why would Putin want to conquer the entire of Ukraine yet that was never his original goal. I don't know if Ukraine will join NATO if a real political solution is to be found. The Russian strategy to win the war should have been obvious from June/July 2022 it turned into a war of attrition, the objective is to defeat the enemy on the battlefield leading to a collapse then take the territory. The Ukrainian front lines are showing signs of this besides the kidnapping of people off the streets to send them to fight in the front.
@@StephenSeabird trillions dollars in swiss banks offshore accounts , 20 millions villas apartments in western europe 5 millions dollars skiing chalets , 200 millions yahts monaco saint tropez , billions stolen from ministry of defence, by military elite contractors , laundering money in new york los angeles real state , russia elite children educated living in western europe , not front line , on front line are poorest of the poor , putin gift to russian mothers, to russia expending nato.
Anne A. - - (and hosts) thanks for your illumination. Curious, many coinciding here, late 80's trip, Poland. Now, I an American Babyboomer, 40+ days older than the Donald, volunteer, teach and live in Central Ukraine. I am fascinated.
7:36 I don't think that the Germans had Angst to get confrontation with Russia. They simply needed cheap feedstock for their energy and Carbon-hungry industry. E.g. the German chemical industry needed cheap carbon feedstock.
I am glad I watched to the end because the hosts raise a point I was thinking: Why does Anne Applebaum only lay out scenarios in which Russia loses its war with Ukraine? She does not entertain the possibility that Russia might win. I think that that is so likely that any global planning for the future must take it into consideration.
@@annettemarshall4895 Crimea is already controlled by Russia. They took it to keep their shipping lanes out of the Black Sea after the US pushed a coup in 2014. We caused this problem in the first place. What this and learn. ua-cam.com/video/Sm8QfxZ3HHw/v-deo.htmlsi=B-K5XSg70NiXBixi
She speaks like a CIA media representative and somehow forgets to mention that Russian federation has so small budget for their army that it could invade central European countries only on foot. And they had a lot of benefits from making business with them , but occupying them would bring Russians only costs. And also there was a peace treaty that would have stopped the war between Ukraine and Russia, if Boris Johnson and CIA had not prevented it's conclusion, by pushing Zelensky to wage the war.
Amazing that Campbell can sit there and talk about foreign policy. He should qualify his opinions with the fact that he got everything wrong for the last 25 years.
For Rory to better understand Abramovich so let me explain to him how this worked: you surround yourself with gangsters with guns, kill a few people her and there and claim some oil and gas company as yours. Any objections? No? Ok good we understood each other then and a few years later you find yourself as a chairman in London as owner of Chelsea. Capito Rory?
The fact that she is still so sure the Russians will give up… Gives a hint of why the world is so fucked up if this kind of exceptionalism is how these people think.
@@richardvivian3665 First, Russians didn't give up in Afghanistan, the Soviets did (that includes Ukrainians). Second, the losses are just as high, maybe even higher now, on the Ukrainian side. It's not as simple as you say.
You're claiming to know what she thinks? I heard her say under what conditions that Russia would stop it's invasion of Ukraine. She did not say that those conditions were inevitable.
7:36 its a german problem not to want ww3? Am I in the twilight zone, why is every western leader and thinker so keen for ww3 there is not one person that says de-escalating is the right thing to do.
De-escalating in the face of an aggressor hands them a victory. Having established rules with stated repercussions for others breaking them and, crucially, following through on them, is the basis of geopolitical order. It’s amazing to me that people will see an autocratic expansionist state like Russia invading their neighbours and then criticise those who object for not de-escalating.
@@tiburongordo "The war will end when Russia stops fighting," she wrote on X two days ago. "Any plan to negotiate or 'trade land for peace' that doesn't explain how and why they will stop fighting is just more magical thinking."
Thank you for this interview. Anne Applebaum offers an incredibly brilliant well supported perspective on geopolitics. I'm looking forward to reading her latest book.
One would have thought that what Anne Applebaum is arguing, would be plain and simple knowledge to most ordinary folk in Western countries. However, I find it mindboggling how many people fail to realize that Putin is bad for the West 🙄.
And why is it, amigo, that Putin is bad for the West! What is it that Putin did that makes him "bad"? Well, nothing. In fact Russia by selling energy cheaply to Western Europe for decades was subsidizing the economic growth of the European Union. In fact, Russia under Putin has long wanted to be friendly with the West and even called Russia's mortal enemies (like the US) "partners." Let me ask again: what is it that Russia has done to the West that you consider bad? The war in Ukraine is a civil war, but most people in the West have no idea that ethnically there is no difference between Russians and Ukrainians. You have a lot to learn. It was the US and the EU that have long been threatening Russia by extending NATO military bases right up to the Russian border. Think about it.
They don't. What our side fails to realize there is no way Ukraine will win this war. They were at the table ready to sign a peace agreement 2.5 years ago. Did you know that? NATO and Biden are responsible for the destruction and carnage as much as Putin. This all started in 2014 with our CIA pushed coup of the Russian friendly government of Ukraine. Then came the corruption. Republicans and Democrats have been making bucks off this war.
The rise of Londongrad was under Johnson as mayor, who was a good friend of her husband, so she probably didn't want to get into too many details about how exactly Russian money got so easily into the city.
It is no coincidence that Henry Kissinger declared that "to understand Putin one should read Dostoyevsky and not Mein Kampf". Because today Putin is trying to realize Dostoyevsky's dream, as Slavists know, and not Hitler, as Europeans believe. Solzhenitsyn warned of the problems arising from the possible separation of Ukraine from Russia. Already in 1990 in the book How to restore our Russia? In 1994, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, he triumphantly returned to his homeland, but he criticized the capitalist and pro-Western drunkenness of the Yeltsin era. He saw the beginning of the era of Putin more kindly, with whom he met several times and in 2008 he defined him as a "true patriot" and wrote him a great dedication on the centenary of the country's birth. But a lady who is married to a Pole and defends brutal Western capitalism will never understand that.
Who cares about Solzhenitsyn right now? Nobody reads his books, the younger generations don't even know that he existed. After the fall of Communism he was totally useless to the West. Boris Pasternak was at least lucky: His book "Doctor Zhivago" was filmed and took a distinguished place in the history of cinema.
Of course not. That would have ended the war. Russia was to pull out. The Donbas region would have been granted autonomy. People against this war are not pro Putin. They are anti-war.
Yeah, kind of a strange format where they gossip about their guest they just had on rather than just press her with the follow-up questions that they would have liked to ask directly.
Anne says that things started to change in politics toward the negative in 2012-2014 with the advent of social media. Is that the time the vitriol for Obama started and did it start on social media? That was also the time that Pelosi was battling for the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare".)
I'd love to hear what she thinks about the increasing politicization of the media in the US and Europe. Is this also dangerous, even though they say that they are for democracy. Also, the weaponization of the legal branch in America - is it dangerous?
The media has always been political. It was just political advocacy for the credentialed class. The challenge to that old world is what upsets Applebaum.
@@stephenlight647 I get why they feel threatened by social media but the world has always survived as similar effect on the elite was felt with the introduction of the printing press, the radio and TV.
What a brilliant, grown-up, realistic yet decent woman Applebaum is. It’s so hopeful to see people say , “It’s complicated” and even better when they then go on to try to explain the issue. So tired of simple declarations about complicated issues.
Well, I think it's quite clear that she's wrong about how the war in Ukraine will end... we'll see soon enough... but her finish statement was strong and inspiring, I give her that.
Dealing with people you don’t like and facilitating a genocide are different things. Applebaum is a straight up neocon. Their ilk should be shunned, not lauded.
She's an eastern European historian, not a Middle Eastern expert. I, for one, think it's refreshing to have people stay in their area of expertise and not make fools of themselves talking about subjects they're ignorant about (glares at Jordan Peterson)
Thank you for finally addressing our ‘enabler’s’ in the city and their chums in parliament who oil the wheels of international dirty money and tax avoidance- indeed it makes our preaching on democracy and the importance of institutions look hypocritical- trickle down economics from an engorged elite will never pay the nations bills when extreme wealth is allowed to trickle out off shore-
“The only way for the war in Ukraine to end is that the Russians leave the country and go home; the same way the French left Vietnam, the Brits left Northern Ireland etc.”. What about the way NATO left Afghanistan? She is the most biased and extreme hater of everything Russian ever existed.
She's dangerously ignorant about the fact that in the Eastern regions of Ukraine, there is predominantly a Russian speaking population whom the Russian forces are protecting against the Ukrainian neo-nazis. There wasn't a single region in Vietnam with a population that was French or English. The comparison here is a show of absolute illiteracy.
@kawsuc6564 and why would you presume the Russian-speaking population would prefer living under Putin authoritarian rule rather than a democracy? and that was exactly what I heard in an interview: the guy said, "No way."
@@Charles-yq8vv You are truly ignorant, in the pure sense of that word.. Please - watch some independent journalists and commentators who actually know what they're talking about, because you haven't yet, obviously. Msm reporters only report what their bosses want them to know and tell them and their audiences. There are ways this is done. Please don't be so naive - there are plenty of people on this site, trying to communicate with those of you who don't watch a wide enough range of information, particularly about this subject, though not exclusively.
Before going to bed, my wife complained to me: "This Russia is such a bad country, if Ukraine wants to join NATO, that is their business and freedom, Russia has no right to intervene. This is just an excuse for Russia to attack Ukraine." I said nothing, got out of bed and went to the kitchen, before returning to bed with knife in hand. I said to my wife: "Let's go to sleep" When she saw the knife, my wife suddenly sat up and looked at me with wide eyes. "What are you doing? Sleeping with a knife?!" she exclaimed. I replied, "Don't worry, let's go to sleep. Besides, sleeping with a knife is none of your business and that's my freedom." My wife said to me: "You're crazy! How can I sleep when you're lying next to me with a knife? What if you accidentally cut me?" I answered: "Well, you don't even trust your own husband, how can you expect Russia to trust Ukraine?" Sleeping with a knife is like Ukraine joining NATO. its impossible to defeat Russia by a military forces.
If you were the Czar of all Russia where & how would your mind look? Would you be a taker or a giver? Would you kill all non-yes advisors? Would you look West with fear & doubt & an Austere mindset? Would you see Western neighbors who reluctantly buy weapons of defense not attack? Would you look East & see 12 time zones of possibility with an Abundant mindset?
Ukraine and Russia are not married, and to the extent that they were, under the USSR, it was a shotgun wedding. So maybe think of Ukraine as a battered ex-wife seeking protection, by joining NATO
@@TheEternalTravellerforget "not ever having been married"; the so-called "Ukraine" had never even existed until the commies formed it during the revolution, by carving off a big chunk of Russia. How can one "marry" something that is his own property?
Her husband was working in EU parliment as polish member and at this time was taking money from arab countries for lobbing in their intrest - it was made official he made tax declartion about it.
I really don't like the way this woman portrays diplomacy as intrinsically hypocritical. It definitely should not be. America has typically behaved in this way, that is 'keeping in mind that you are dealing with dictators', an attitude which poisons diplomacy and makes all bad outcomes the fault of the other party. Its part of their superiority complex. She concedes that the regimes of Erdogan and Chavez were democratic but justifies their destruction and undermining by asserting they are actively working to become undemocratic - this is nonsense and unprovable - just another American act of outrageous hypocracy. It is illuminating that she concedes all American foreign policy is intrinsically hypocritical - no-one should trust them because of this.
Absolutly NON sense what she is talking about , am astonished that such Historien LIES , Not One true story about , what She delivered . And l have so many exemples to show exactly thé contrat .
Now we have ABU LONDON SAUDI- there is no clear fair trade n politics here again- London just like money and we didn’t learn from East Europe- we just laundry money non stop!!!! Even worse! London says Human Rights but is invaded by Autocratic Arab Money- UK produces just London - that is laundryman.
The reason Mrs Applebaum stresses the importance of social media, is because it IS so important. In my old days, you needed to be aware whether something your read or saw was true or not. Now we need to be aware WHY we see this content. That is a whole new level. Which humanity is not used to yet.
I wonder how big an impact social media would have if people were genuinely happy with their life?
the thing is a year ago I would have agreed that fake content is a huge problem but the Gaza war just showed me how deeply entrenched our media is in propaganda and in touting government lines and social media was my only source of truth, at least if you have good media literacy. I think older people struggle more with fake news
@@berhanxowe have mossad and kgb funded social influencers in Australia. everyone know who they are but they go unchecked.
@@berhanxoan interesting take. Although there is the counterargument that older generations would have a much better grounding in world history, and so would spot the incongruities typical of fake news easier.
I've got the impression humanity learns fast.
Faking the democratic system is the ultimate hypocricy of autocrats.
hilariously Zelenkij is the President of the country which is much more CORRUPT ( by a magnitude of 10 ! ) than Orban's Hungary ...
and while Applebaum is 'dumping' on Hungary's Orban as the 'evil doer' and she is totally blind to UKRaine's corruption ( mainly because since Zelenkij is the 'creature' of NATO/USA ... so anything is allowed ! 😞 )
@@lexvangelder2525 The same can be said about the Western democracies: sheer illusions!
yeh, no voting, marshall, law, no position parties, continuing in government after your allotted term has ended without further elections being granted - that's Zelensky for you
@@draculasneeze6681Yeah, let’s just ignore the elephant in the room about his country getting invaded by an evil empire with an autocrat at the helm. Of course there’s gonna be martial law when Ukraine is at - you know - *war*. I sure hope you don’t expect a potato for this thick attempt at propaganda, Ivan.
@@Gryzor88 US had election during ww2.
So cry me a river.
There are two different but connected problems:
- degradation (corruption) of democracy in certain countries
- the degradation of international institutions like UN, international courts
Seing that tne international institutions don' t work well, people are ready to support strong leaders.
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So, the erosion of democracy started by the end of the cold war.
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As the US considered themselves winners - they started to destroy the international institutions (at least, by ignoring them).
So true, look at their reaction to the ICC today.
@draculasneeze6681 What is the ICC?
Would love to see a debate between this Woman and Professor Mersheimer.
It would be very interesting as i believe they would have different views.
Great idea! I'd watch that, giant bowl of popcorn next to me ;-)
Obviously since Mersheimer is an apologist for dictators
@@rbitrossome being a dictator is only bad when you're not a western ally
@@rbitrossome No he's not - you can't even spell his name right, and he's "Distinguished Service Professor"
(which I'd hazard is the US equivalent of Emeritus Professor) at Chicago University, in Political Science and International Relations, and is the developer of the doctrine of 'offensive realism' ; and for you to categorize him so lazily as an apologist for dictators just shows your utter ignorance. His view of these subjects is more complex and nuanced than it sounds like you're capable of understanding, so I'm far from sure it's worth recommending you to listen to what he has to say. The phrase "Pearls before Swine" springs to mind, though I'm sure you look nothing like a pig ('Not so sure about the popcorn freak tho').
Her husband, Radek Sikorski crossed his sabre with Mershaimer in a debate a year or two ago, and crushed him. ,
Anne Applebaum t....thoughtful, articulate, informed views. Well worth the listen.
Thanks
If we nationally admit to ourselves that we are functioning as the money laundering capital of the world, that we are essentially creating the conditions which allow these people to do what they do, what then? Our idea of ourselves will be shattered and we shall be forced to develop a new one.
I'm not opposed to this. In principle anything which can be destroyed by truth should be. A national myth which doesn't survive contact with direct sunlight should be discarded immediately.
Understatement considering the rise of groups like the Taliban and the success of AIPAC/USA in the Israel war on the ME.
with all due respect to your contribution to oligarch money laundering, but you will never beat Switzerland, Monaco, Cyprus or many others in this context 😀
I would hope, that we don't suffer from overly idealising ourselves, and are therefore able to respond to criticism constructively.
just promise me to keep the Farrage and Boris Johnsons types out of the new identity building. Please
not will be - but is being - shattered. People rise against the pain caused people...
Dont waste time asking historians to predict the future! Ask them to help you understand the present through their knowledge of the past.
To stop this needless ruSSia war against Ukraine payments for ruSSian oil and gas needs to be placed into an escrow account with the attachment payments is due when the ruSSian military has departed Ukrainian soil
Correct
Read or listen to Bill Browder.
@@smokingzen Yes
...and if you don't like the history, you can rewrite it, and substitute your own.
Solid US and UK education, then decades of experience analyzing international politics, plus direct relationships with Poland (a country whose history showed how to get rid of Soviet imperialism) - a perfect mix for an expert on the subject of this discussion.
That was way too short. I could've listened to her for hours.
Disappointed that both Rory and Alistair coulodn't bring themselves to condemn Johnson/Ledbedev more harshly and acknowledge just how corrupt the British political sysstem is. We have a Russian Oligarch in the House of Lords, FFS! Where is Starmer's 'reform' of the Lords?
Keep your enemies closer...
I'm so delighted to know with confidence that the US political system isn't run by wealthy individuals or super powerful Industries and their money has no negative effects in the US or abroad. What a relief !
Are you that naive of not knowing that U S Corporations is the Person which was made by U S Government by Neo-Capitalism. Our economy is rented economy; they love you for your bliss of ingorance.
Yeah, and you can take that to the bank. Not.
Great interview. Great questions. Very informative and thought-provoking. Thank you all.
Anne probably wouldn't be the best guest to untangle how western far right became so pro-Russian, as it is not only a story of political influence, but also of culture war, and even though she mentioned Orban being good at addressing people's anxieties and was very poignant about fear of modernity, she doesn't seem to get into anti-establishment populist mind so easily. Perhaps good for her, but I think it would be great if somebody would tell Rory and Alistair to their faces in what ways, aside for global financial crisis, former political elites, them included, basically rolled out the red carpet for pro Russian populists of the future.
The shocking wealth inequality in the USA and Britain, the essential writing off of the less wealthy majority of the population, these are not due to some foreign influence (even if foreign oligarchs benefit from this-and in the case of housing costs-make the problem worse). "Democracy" has become a rather slippery term-and a relative one. Of course, while there are many examples of republics-good and bad- there are few examples of central government democracies-because, really, such a government has historically never existed. The only way Athens was "democratic" was by restricting the franchise to native born men who had served in the military- slaves, foreigners, women and those who never served in the military were not eligible. Is this kind of "rigged democracy" really the best form of government? The USA can be considered a "corrupted plutocratic republic" with (also!) some genuinely democratic features-as well as a military/industrial complex and a global empire (hey, that didn't stop the republican Romans!). Britain, if anything, is even further from a democracy-it is definitely not a republic at all, but rather this "constitutional Monarchy".
western far right does not want money to go for ideologies. Those who want to support they send THEIR money. If we say we are "democratic", or you are nothing but work through diktats
Correct.
@@motherlesschild102 The biggest problem facing the West is a lack of consequence and accountability. Look at the migrant crisis in Europe with people blaming the migrants and refugees and not the policy and the people who started needless wars.
If the war by Russia ends today, after 15 years (2039) there is no way in hell she would seat down for an interview by Putin's spokesman Peskov but she doesn't seem to mind doing the same for the architects for the 2003 Iraq war.
Over the last 20 years hyper capitalism has stagnated wages, reduced corporate taxes and increased corporate power, schools, hospitals and infrastructure are collapsing while the economy somehow grows.
@@michaelotieno6524 I agree with you. And the USA is the #1 Imperialist power on Earth. But why would I be against American Imperialism, inequality, lack of accountability etc. and completely ignore (or be in favor of) when Putin's government does similar things?
I love you Anne Appelbpum. Wife of Radosław Sikorski. The Poland Minister of Foreign Affairs. You made him better man. Better Public Servant. Better Minister. Better Politician. Better Polish national. And member of international society who care for Peace for the World.
Thank you.
Emilia Olga Marion of Columbia, SC
Excellent conversation! Thanks so much!
You can not quit the existential war. And it's an existential war for Russia.
Born in America, spent a long time in UK, married to Polish politician... How many red flags regarding objetivity of this lady we need? 🤔
That's the very essence of how you become objective.
No human being is completely objective. In analysing anything in this world we always need to be aware of our own personal perspective. This is by having multiple perspectives on the same issue is invaluable
@@sophitsa79 That is true. Nevertheles, you have said multiple perspectives - this lady brings more of the same: Putin bad, we good, we fight. That is what we are already getting from legacy media.
@@lahvancz maybe she comes from a different perspective (i.e. set of expectations, values and biases) and still came to the same conclusion?
I don't know if that is true, but it would be interesting if it were true.
I feel your frustration - it's difficult to keep searching and feeling like you're not any closer to the truth of things.
@@lahvanczexactly, how well said...
Great conversation. Thank-U.
The demise of the Soviet Union merely replaced the old ideological conflict between East and West with an even older one, the conflict between nations and their national interests. So, we're back to the 19th century politics of land grabs but fought with 21st century economies and weapons. In this we must understand that the failure of Communism liberated Russia from its absurdities and restrictions allowing for more rational and better balanced growth. In effect, Russia today, allied closely with China, the largest manufacturing power in the world, is a more formidable opponent than the Soviet Union ever was. And this is substantially Putin's accomplishment.
17 millions russian without indoor toilet water, 25 percent russian man die before age 55, on potato cabbage vodka daiet , average mortality age 66 , economy on life support, infrastructure colapsing junk from 90s, hundred feet in the air , geyser of sewege shit in moscow , over 700.00 killed injured on front line putin wantes war criminal enterprice , gift to russian mothers , to russia expending nato , anemy of russia are russian .
"When the mafia is the State do you still talk about it as the mafia?" 🎯
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Thank you for creating this very good upload.
What they are doing, what the other party is not doing? One is “evil corruption”, the other is the “good and noble corruption”. Ridiculous.
There's so much to disagree with here from Applebaum, not least the presumption of superiority of the "democratic" system in the West. I think Alistair and Rory rightly pick up on the flaws in her arguments and conclusions at the end of the programme.
1. She never answers the observant question from Rory as to why Russia and China are getting support from the Global South. She effectively evades the question, going on about social media.
2. She says the Ukraine war can only end if Putin accepts failure of the invasion. Well that aged badly in pretty short order. By all reasonable assessments Ukraine is losing. She has no understanding of what is going to win the war. Logistics, Man power, Economy etc. Look up Jeffrey Sachs and John Merscheimer for a far more sober diagnosis of the situation.
3. She says that other countries are propping up the Russian war. No. It's because it's not their war, or because it's not in their interest to let Russia lose. I wonder if NATO and G7 foreign policy has anything to do with that, duh!
I think Alistair and Rory's assessment of her arguments are if anything, lenient. She is very much politicised and unfortunately suffers from a very Western and US centric view of the world. The failure of the West in multiple wars in the Middle East, North Africa and instigation of coups etc don't seem to make any impact on her evaluations whatsoever.
Russia is failing - Soldiers, Weapons and Economy
@@johnrotten4871 Yes, most people in Russia are starving to death, while there are 200 million homeless in Russia, also Russia has lost 40 billion men in Ukraine, did you know that?
Regarding 2) a war only ends with a political solution or endgame. Russia will never conquer the entire country. In all likelihood Ukraine will eventually join NATO. The war is a strain on Russia on multiple levels. Yes, Russia makes slow progress and wins tactical battles but is far from any grand strategic victory. It also increases the chances of a revolution within Russia like we saw the start of with Prigozhin.
@@johnrotten4871 Unless you nuke every square inch of the earth, there is no chance, just think about it... how long ago was the 1990's?
What is the Russian way of survival?
What is the Russian Guarantee of survival? (yes, go to far and just perhaps the "Dr Strangelove" scenario becomes reality).
Russia is practically able to keep going without an economy fueled entirely be Vodka, weapons and disgruntled soldiers.
Unlike the west that falls apart the moment air support is out of the picture.
@@infostudy101 Why would Putin want to conquer the entire of Ukraine yet that was never his original goal. I don't know if Ukraine will join NATO if a real political solution is to be found. The Russian strategy to win the war should have been obvious from June/July 2022 it turned into a war of attrition, the objective is to defeat the enemy on the battlefield leading to a collapse then take the territory. The Ukrainian front lines are showing signs of this besides the kidnapping of people off the streets to send them to fight in the front.
So Russians corrupt England oligarchy, one of the most corrupt oligarchies in the world? 😂😂😂😂
The corrupt ones would, and do, feel right at home here most of the time.
@@robertdavidson8028Russian soldiers make great fertilizer!
Who else can they blame? Russia's always been convenient for blame.
russia mount everest of corruption .
@@StephenSeabird trillions dollars in swiss banks offshore accounts , 20 millions villas apartments in western europe 5 millions dollars skiing chalets , 200 millions yahts monaco saint tropez , billions stolen from ministry of defence, by military elite contractors , laundering money in new york los angeles real state , russia elite children educated living in western europe , not front line , on front line are poorest of the poor , putin gift to russian mothers, to russia expending nato.
Anne A. - - (and hosts) thanks for your illumination. Curious, many coinciding here, late 80's trip, Poland. Now, I an American Babyboomer, 40+ days older than the Donald, volunteer, teach and live in Central Ukraine. I am fascinated.
7:36 I don't think that the Germans had Angst to get confrontation with Russia. They simply needed cheap feedstock for their energy and Carbon-hungry industry. E.g. the German chemical industry needed cheap carbon feedstock.
both East and West Germany had and still have a deep sense of trauma from the Russian overthrow of Hitler.
I am glad I watched to the end because the hosts raise a point I was thinking: Why does Anne Applebaum only lay out scenarios in which Russia loses its war with Ukraine? She does not entertain the possibility that Russia might win. I think that that is so likely that any global planning for the future must take it into consideration.
What people don't seem to understand is russia can NOT be allowed to win, so they won't. We will make sure..
I am terribly afraid that the new inhabitant of the White House is going to pressure Ukraine to surrender the Crimea (at the very least)....
russia is winning destroying self
@@annettemarshall4895 Crimea is already controlled by Russia. They took it to keep their shipping lanes out of the Black Sea after the US pushed a coup in 2014. We caused this problem in the first place. What this and learn. ua-cam.com/video/Sm8QfxZ3HHw/v-deo.htmlsi=B-K5XSg70NiXBixi
I knew what she would say the moment she said she lived in Poland and was married to a Polish politician
I always like to listen to her.
Great interview!
She speaks like a CIA media representative and somehow forgets to mention that Russian federation has so small budget for their army that it could invade central European countries only on foot. And they had a lot of benefits from making business with them , but occupying them would bring Russians only costs.
And also there was a peace treaty that would have stopped the war between Ukraine and Russia, if Boris Johnson and CIA had not prevented it's conclusion, by pushing Zelensky to wage the war.
Amazing that Campbell can sit there and talk about foreign policy. He should qualify his opinions with the fact that he got everything wrong for the last 25 years.
A bona fide war criminal ducking his role in mass murder. He reminds me of Speer.
Wow, what a very smart woman!!!
For Rory to better understand Abramovich so let me explain to him how this worked: you surround yourself with gangsters with guns, kill a few people her and there and claim some oil and gas company as yours. Any objections? No? Ok good we understood each other then and a few years later you find yourself as a chairman in London as owner of Chelsea. Capito Rory?
And it took Putin to sort out the oligarchs
@@PosterPeteTheBish to become richest man in the world , on 139.000 dollars salary per year . according to elon musk.
Very informative. Freedom for the neutral Press.
Thank you. Applebaum is one of the foremost observers of the world scene.
The fact that she is still so sure the Russians will give up… Gives a hint of why the world is so fucked up if this kind of exceptionalism is how these people think.
Russia gave up in Afghanistan.
They can’t continue with the current losses indefinitely. At some point they will give up.
@@richardvivian3665 First, Russians didn't give up in Afghanistan, the Soviets did (that includes Ukrainians). Second, the losses are just as high, maybe even higher now, on the Ukrainian side. It's not as simple as you say.
You're claiming to know what she thinks? I heard her say under what conditions that Russia would stop it's invasion of Ukraine. She did not say that those conditions were inevitable.
russia cant afford putin war usa can forever supporting nato.
@@richardvivian3665 This isn't Afghanistan. It's on their border. ua-cam.com/video/Sm8QfxZ3HHw/v-deo.htmlsi=B-K5XSg70NiXBixi
7:36 its a german problem not to want ww3? Am I in the twilight zone, why is every western leader and thinker so keen for ww3 there is not one person that says de-escalating is the right thing to do.
Theres a big jump from making sure ukraine wins and ww3
Germans have been weakened through russian influence and cultural naivity
We did that in the 1930s. It resulted in the overthrow of the Spanish government by Franco, the end of Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland.
You need to try other websites. This interview is very one-sided.
It’s no problem not to want WW3
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De-escalating in the face of an aggressor hands them a victory. Having established rules with stated repercussions for others breaking them and, crucially, following through on them, is the basis of geopolitical order. It’s amazing to me that people will see an autocratic expansionist state like Russia invading their neighbours and then criticise those who object for not de-escalating.
She is entire definition of what political correct is.
Blair has nearly destroyed. Grwat Britain with his conniving war clueless attenpt at federlism
38:00 "The only way the war ends …" Anne Applebaum's prediction (with Russia's withdrawal) is not moral but political, Rory.
She’s telling us the way she WANTS it to end
@@tiburongordo "The war will end when Russia stops fighting," she wrote on X two days ago. "Any plan to negotiate or 'trade land for peace' that doesn't explain how and why they will stop fighting is just more magical thinking."
Thank you.
Thank you for this interview. Anne Applebaum offers an incredibly brilliant well supported perspective on geopolitics. I'm looking forward to reading her latest book.
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@@monaliza3334 Ok, Russian bot.
One would have thought that what Anne Applebaum is arguing, would be plain and simple knowledge to most ordinary folk in Western countries. However, I find it mindboggling how many people fail to realize that Putin is bad for the West 🙄.
And why is it, amigo, that Putin is bad for the West! What is it that Putin did that makes him "bad"? Well, nothing. In fact Russia by selling energy cheaply to Western Europe for decades was subsidizing the economic growth of the European Union. In fact, Russia under Putin has long wanted to be friendly with the West and even called Russia's mortal enemies (like the US) "partners."
Let me ask again: what is it that Russia has done to the West that you consider bad? The war in Ukraine is a civil war, but most people in the West have no idea that ethnically there is no difference between Russians and Ukrainians. You have a lot to learn. It was the US and the EU that have long been threatening Russia by extending NATO military bases right up to the Russian border. Think about it.
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They don't. What our side fails to realize there is no way Ukraine will win this war. They were at the table ready to sign a peace agreement 2.5 years ago. Did you know that? NATO and Biden are responsible for the destruction and carnage as much as Putin. This all started in 2014 with our CIA pushed coup of the Russian friendly government of Ukraine. Then came the corruption. Republicans and Democrats have been making bucks off this war.
Well, I disagree with a lot of what she is saying, but I have to acknowledge she seems consistent in her views, which is rare now.
💥 I appreciate her mature, informed observations.
The rise of Londongrad was under Johnson as mayor, who was a good friend of her husband, so she probably didn't want to get into too many details about how exactly Russian money got so easily into the city.
That’s not true at all, it was many years before.
@@tropicaltrev1617 'Before' what? You mean, he didn't realise?
Her husband, establishment to its core.
Her husband is Polish not Russian!
Ty very vigorous and insiteful
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On the bright Side this is a lot of 50¢, or whatever the going Rate is, not spent on the War Effort.
It is no coincidence that Henry Kissinger declared that "to understand Putin one should read Dostoyevsky and not Mein Kampf". Because today Putin is trying to realize Dostoyevsky's dream, as Slavists know, and not Hitler, as Europeans believe.
Solzhenitsyn warned of the problems arising from the possible separation of Ukraine from Russia. Already in 1990 in the book How to restore our Russia? In 1994, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, he triumphantly returned to his homeland, but he criticized the capitalist and pro-Western drunkenness of the Yeltsin era. He saw the beginning of the era of Putin more kindly, with whom he met several times and in 2008 he defined him as a "true patriot" and wrote him a great dedication on the centenary of the country's birth. But a lady who is married to a Pole and defends brutal Western capitalism will never understand that.
"Brutal Western capitalism" that is really delicious. Contrary to the gentle Russian capitalism🤣 - just for the ruling mafia to profit.
Who cares about Solzhenitsyn right now? Nobody reads his books, the younger generations don't even know that he existed. After the fall of Communism he was totally useless to the West.
Boris Pasternak was at least lucky: His book "Doctor Zhivago" was filmed and took a distinguished place in the history of cinema.
She has not heard of Dostoevski 😅
Boy the Russian trolls are really out in force for this one. Just babbling nonsense for their sheckels, embarrassing.
LMAO. Putin is literally following the nazi playbook word for word.
Great quote!!
Some good analysis and many very keen observations were made by Anne Applebaum. More coverage should be given to her
Anne Applebaum is totally delusional.
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More lies?
any mention of the peace agreement between Zelensky and Putin that Boris Johnson warned Zelensky not to sign?
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Of course not. That would have ended the war. Russia was to pull out. The Donbas region would have been granted autonomy. People against this war are not pro Putin. They are anti-war.
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Funny how at he end they're complaining about her not answering the questions they failed to ask or pursue any further. I find it somewhat peculiar.
Yeah, kind of a strange format where they gossip about their guest they just had on rather than just press her with the follow-up questions that they would have liked to ask directly.
Thanks Anne for your great works!❤
Anne says that things started to change in politics toward the negative in 2012-2014 with the advent of social media. Is that the time the vitriol for Obama started and did it start on social media? That was also the time that Pelosi was battling for the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare".)
I want to remind everyone that this woman is at work.
Like yourself presumably, comrade.
like you spreading russian manure
These elites are really really frightened that things are changing.
…one set of elites will be replaced by other elites…the fantasy that non elites take over is a bit naive…
Excellent!
I'd love to hear what she thinks about the increasing politicization of the media in the US and Europe. Is this also dangerous, even though they say that they are for democracy. Also, the weaponization of the legal branch in America - is it dangerous?
The media has always been political. It was just political advocacy for the credentialed class. The challenge to that old world is what upsets Applebaum.
@@stephenlight647 I get why they feel threatened by social media but the world has always survived as similar effect on the elite was felt with the introduction of the printing press, the radio and TV.
What a brilliant, grown-up, realistic yet decent woman Applebaum is. It’s so hopeful to see people say , “It’s complicated” and even better when they then go on to try to explain the issue. So tired of simple declarations about complicated issues.
And because you are tired you fall into a simple one.
Well, I think it's quite clear that she's wrong about how the war in Ukraine will end... we'll see soon enough... but her finish statement was strong and inspiring, I give her that.
This Lady says she defends human rights however she does not criticize Gaza.
And Armenia
So you weren't listening, when she said foreign policy inevitably involves hypocrisy because you have to do deals with people you don't like.
Dealing with people you don’t like and facilitating a genocide are different things.
Applebaum is a straight up neocon. Their ilk should be shunned, not lauded.
She's an eastern European historian, not a Middle Eastern expert. I, for one, think it's refreshing to have people stay in their area of expertise and not make fools of themselves talking about subjects they're ignorant about (glares at Jordan Peterson)
Indeed, she should have criticized Hamas. ;)
Thank you for finally addressing our ‘enabler’s’ in the city and their chums in parliament who oil the wheels of international dirty money and tax avoidance- indeed it makes our preaching on democracy and the importance of institutions look hypocritical- trickle down economics from an engorged elite will never pay the nations bills when extreme wealth is allowed to trickle out off shore-
The power of money... plus power corrupts
I would very vehemently like to listen your views on Turkey, please. At what point are we in the process of " dismantling the state"? And our future?
so, this is the argument - „Stuff happens“ then Russia gives up and NATO wins.
“The only way for the war in Ukraine to end is that the Russians leave the country and go home; the same way the French left Vietnam, the Brits left Northern Ireland etc.”. What about the way NATO left Afghanistan? She is the most biased and extreme hater of everything Russian ever existed.
She's dangerously ignorant about the fact that in the Eastern regions of Ukraine, there is predominantly a Russian speaking population whom the Russian forces are protecting against the Ukrainian neo-nazis. There wasn't a single region in Vietnam with a population that was French or English. The comparison here is a show of absolute illiteracy.
@@kawsuc6564 who are these Ukrainian neo-nazis that you speak of?
@@kawsuc6564hahaha verbatim Kremlin propaganda! Look at you, Ivan. Your Furher would be proud.
@kawsuc6564 and why would you presume the Russian-speaking population would prefer living under Putin authoritarian rule rather than a democracy? and that was exactly what I heard in an interview: the guy said, "No way."
@@Charles-yq8vv You are truly ignorant, in the pure sense of that word.. Please - watch some independent journalists and commentators who actually know what they're talking about, because you haven't yet, obviously. Msm reporters only report what their bosses want them to know and tell them and their audiences. There are ways this is done. Please don't be so naive - there are plenty of people on this site, trying to communicate with those of you who don't watch a wide enough range of information, particularly about this subject, though not exclusively.
She is right
Why no mention of Israel, I guess that's am example of the hypocrisy she speaks about.
She is not slavic enough to care deeply about every jew, unlike you.
Huh, this is a discussion about Russia and Ukraine….literally
Before going to bed, my wife complained to me: "This Russia is such a bad country, if Ukraine wants to join NATO, that is their business and freedom, Russia has no right to intervene. This is just an excuse for Russia to attack Ukraine." I said nothing, got out of bed and went to the kitchen, before returning to bed with knife in hand. I said to my wife: "Let's go to sleep" When she saw the knife, my wife suddenly sat up and looked at me with wide eyes. "What are you doing? Sleeping with a knife?!" she exclaimed. I replied, "Don't worry, let's go to sleep. Besides, sleeping with a knife is none of your business and that's my freedom." My wife said to me: "You're crazy! How can I sleep when you're lying next to me with a knife? What if you accidentally cut me?" I answered: "Well, you don't even trust your own husband, how can you expect Russia to trust Ukraine?" Sleeping with a knife is like Ukraine joining NATO.
its impossible to defeat Russia by a military forces.
If you were the Czar of all Russia where & how would your mind look?
Would you be a taker or a giver?
Would you kill all non-yes advisors?
Would you look West with fear & doubt & an Austere mindset?
Would you see Western neighbors who reluctantly buy weapons of defense not attack?
Would you look East & see 12 time zones of possibility with an Abundant mindset?
Ukraine and Russia are not married, and to the extent that they were, under the USSR, it was a shotgun wedding. So maybe think of Ukraine as a battered ex-wife seeking protection, by joining NATO
@@TheEternalTraveller Very much like OP's wife, I would imagine
@@TheEternalTravellerforget "not ever having been married"; the so-called "Ukraine" had never even existed until the commies formed it during the revolution, by carving off a big chunk of Russia. How can one "marry" something that is his own property?
What a pathetic bullshit! The truth is that russians still see Ukraine as a wife who left his abusive husband.
I think the contest is never-ending.
Timothy Snyder next please 🙏
What about Aipac in America?
Interesting conversation! Human nature and how to best govern! No one has a monopoly on good ideas!
She is a brilliant mind, and we are fortunate to have her mind/views about the future of the world
Anne Applebaum is totally delusional.
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Extremely interesting woman with great knowledge. She reminds me of Helene Carrere d'Encausse in France.
It’s Anne Applebaum…the lady who never met a war she didn’t love.
Wow, I didn't know that
She goes to the war-front to be eye-witness of the crime. This lady is a modern time angel. 🍷🦍
One of the Best discussions on Ukraine and russia, I have ever herd. Congratulations ! Long Live the West! SLAVA UKRAINE! From Italy ❤❤
ua-cam.com/video/Sm8QfxZ3HHw/v-deo.htmlsi=B-K5XSg70NiXBixi Another good discussion.
A wonderful deep thinking lady.
THE USA has a donocracy... where political donors have a fair bit of leverage.
yes - a deNOcracy - make of that what you will
Her husband was working in EU parliment as polish member and at this time was taking money from arab countries for lobbing in their intrest - it was made official he made tax declartion about it.
Impressive
War criminals!
Somebody needs to write a book titled "How stupidity destroys empires".
Barbara Tuchmann did this with the "March of Folly"
Unfortunately the Book wasnt very good.
London banks have always laundered money from all over the world. Hong Kong ditto.
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I really don't like the way this woman portrays diplomacy as intrinsically hypocritical. It definitely should not be. America has typically behaved in this way, that is 'keeping in mind that you are dealing with dictators', an attitude which poisons diplomacy and makes all bad outcomes the fault of the other party. Its part of their superiority complex. She concedes that the regimes of Erdogan and Chavez were democratic but justifies their destruction and undermining by asserting they are actively working to become undemocratic - this is nonsense and unprovable - just another American act of outrageous hypocracy. It is illuminating that she concedes all American foreign policy is intrinsically hypocritical - no-one should trust them because of this.
BTW I gave up at 27 minutes, having learned nothing about the way the war is going to end in the Ukraine and losing hope that I was ever going to.
yeah, the media reports on elections in Russia and Iran, while at the same time calling them undemocratic dictators..
...the soft bigotry of low expectations. Excellent
She wrote "Gulag" the most detailed and interesting book about the USSR I have read.
Why do the Brits so hate Russia? Any historical reason? Pls let's know.
Oh boy, where do I begin...
They invade all their neighbours? They support strong man autocrats and they don't respect human rights?
ENVY - is the simplest explanation. And fear - real fear again
@@syl-brianskamara1850 They invade their neighbours', have a superiority complex, like strong men autocrats?
@@AnaMinMi envy? 10 million Russians have outside toilets. I don't think so !
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck and does duck things... It is Not something else.
VERY much enjoyed this conversation, thank you.
She understands russia well 👍 Im a russian btw living in the west for 16 years now
Radek, your taste for women leaves a lot to be desired... to put it mildly.
Привіт Baм з окупованої бандерівською сволотою Одещини.
Ты уже не русский.
So your view endorses your choice. She hates Russia. You too?
Troll farm alert: Approaching bridge. Use caution looking down.
You trigger easily?
Anne is foreign affairs / international relations Jedi
Talk about one-sided views and cherry-picking of facts. These "historians" write the story any way they want.
Russia invaded a sovereign state you paid babble mouth
@@ZoroasterIII For good reasons in their view. ua-cam.com/video/Sm8QfxZ3HHw/v-deo.htmlsi=B-K5XSg70NiXBixi
Absolutly NON sense what she is talking about , am astonished that such Historien LIES , Not One true story about , what She delivered . And l have so many exemples to show exactly thé contrat .
Ann was a speaker at an event in Volgograd former Stalingrad in June 1997.
Now we have ABU LONDON SAUDI- there is no clear fair trade n politics here again- London just like money and we didn’t learn from East Europe- we just laundry money non stop!!!! Even worse! London says Human Rights but is invaded by Autocratic Arab Money- UK produces just London - that is laundryman.