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After using the Ridgid R4560 for about 10 months now, I wanted to share my thoughts about the saw. The Ridgid 4560 is the newest 2021 professional 10 inch cast iron table saw offering from Ridgid. I got a pre-production model of the Ridgid R4560 and after using it for tons and tons of projects, I've got some in-depth details that will help you decide if this saw is right for you in this long term review!
Anyway, I hope you enjoy this one and as always, let me know what you'd like to see next! Tag me @SpencleyDesignCo on Instagram so I can check any of your builds!
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If you haven’t figured it out yet, the “flip down thing” on the fence isn’t for cutting on the other side of the fence. It’s so you can move the fence over the open area, the space next to the table surface but still reachable by the fence, and cut thin sheet goods without them bending and going under the fence; it perfectly matches the height of the table when flipped down.
PS. I'm sure someone has mentioned, and as per your test, that switch *CAN NOT* remain on when not powered. It's a powered-on magnetic switch. You're fine unplugging it.
Just commented on the other video. Pretty sure it has low voltage protection. In fact i think there is an electrical code rule about it.
Since this is a Delta clone, all the UA-cam videos on calibration and adjustment of the 36-725 and T2 are applicable. I have found a ton of useful info from these videos, especially on leveling the steel extension wings by attaching them to the rails only first, getting them level much easier, then attaching them to the cast iron. There is more stuff on squaring the blade to the miter slot by adjusting the set screws in the back of the saw. Stuff you will never find in the manual or on the website.
I wouldn’t call it a “Clone”, it is manufactured by Delta so it is the same saw with a different branding/color.
@@DownloaderVideo so…. A clone
Hey! Long time woodworker, and I love watching tool review videos in addition to your woodworking videos. It gives me insight to whether problems that may arise for you will be problems for me. I see tool reviews all the time and people mention problems they ran into, but we don't make the same types of things and there may use the same tool differently. In short, knowing what I want to make and how I want to make it will largely be determined by videos of things I see being made and the tools I see people using. YES PLEASE to to the tool review videos!
Found you because of this saw. You are a great tool reviewer. Very detailed and answered questions I didn't know I had. Please keep em coming.
Thanks Jason!
@@SpencleyDesignCo Do you know if this is an exact clone of the delta?
I’d assume it’s fairly close, but I don’t know for certain
I bought one of these a couple days ago and it lasted exactly one day. The belt was loose, and I didn't know. So the blade stopped cutting 2 inches into a douglas fir 2x4. Tightened the belt, started cutting, and got almost through ripping one board, and the motor just stopped. Maybe it was a lemon, but I never got the idea it was up to the task of cutting anything harder than pine or doug fir. And yeah, it took a LONG time to set up. My $200 job site saw is still going strong.
I think you should definitely do more tools reviews. I like this style where you've clearly given it some proper use and know all the aspects whether they are good and bad, and it all seems fair. You shouldn't put yourself down, though! You have built up a ton of skills, experience and peanuts so your reviews would carry some weight. I can't really lend too much credence to other reviews that are really no more than unboxing videos and a quick whirl of the tool along with a handy link to a 5% off.
I appreciate the feedback, Stephen!
Great update - thanks for sharing. I actually just purchased this and have yet to assemble and calibrate it. This will definitely give me lots of pointers and advice as I tackle that next weekend. !
My best advice is to set aside two days and just take your time getting things set up. It’s a major pain, but it needs to be done
Peanuts? After watching your first video I ordered this saw from THD. That was today, so I won’t have it for about 9 days. Also, from the first video, I cringed when you tossed your old saw. My 25- year old Ryobi BT3000 had a similar problem where the blade lift mechanism stripped out completely. It was actually a fairly simple fix with a Heli-coil. I would have tried this fix on your old saw before giving it the heave-ho. On a parting note…you do an excellent product review! I want my subscription to pay rewards in the future! Thank you, very much.
Thank you Bruce!
Peanuts, great video and thorough review. These have been available at home depot since early september or so, i bought one in early november last year after watching your first review. One thing worth mentioning about this saw is that while it does run on a standard 15 amp outlet, it needs its own dedicated circuit as it drains up to 16 amps when it starts up. If youre running dust collection or a shop vac, it has to be on a different outlet connected to a seperate circuit at the breaker box. I used it for about a month, not knowing there was a homeless guy squatting behind the building my shops in and running a mini fridge and microwave off the same circuit, and the motor completely burned out and wouldn't start up anymore. The reset button on the motor was stiff as a brick. I called ridgid and they said to just bring it back to home depot and get a new one. The staff at my local home depot were extremely friendly about the exchange and now ive got my 2nd one set up and ready to go. But im not even firing it up until i can have an electrician come out and set up a new circuit+outlet just for this saw. And like you said, dialing this thing in is a bit of a PITA, so setting up the new one was especially tedious after how long it took to dial in the first one. Not a problem everyone is going to have but its worth keeping in mind as ive read it was a common problem with the delta saw this one is a clone of too. Lots of people thought they had a defective saw, but they were really just overloading the circuit, starving the motor for power, and burning it out
Wow! That’s quite a story 🤣
Nice review. You should do more tool reviews. Regarding the switch on your new saw, this is the type of switch you will get with most higher power, higher quality saws. Only the cheaper jobsite type saws have the purely mechanical switch you had on your old saw. The switch on the new saw is a magnetic switch and is a big safety improvement. It prevents your saw from powering up after an unexpected outage, blown breaker, or other power interruption.
I appreciate your videos. Thank you for your open, honest, and up front comments on this saw.
Thank you for the positive feedback! 😀
My man you're too good when it comes to reviewing, you don't left the stone on top of the other. Keep up the good work, I'm appreciating you here from South Africa
Thanks for watching!
Peanuts, I just received my saw today and it is still in the box. I was thinking of returning. But after watching your review. I’m going to keep it. I just hope the blade is aligned properly. You spoke very clear and did a great job on reviewing this. Thank you.
Peanuts! Good review, only thing I disagree with is the power switch. I like having these magnetic safety switches. The fact that you can’t see if the saw is on is irrelevant because the saw is only on when you press the switch with it plugged in. With no power to the saw, the power switch doesn’t actually switch.
Thanks, for watching Stephen! I understand how the magnetic switch works, but I still don’t like it. I like that tactile feedback on tools. The button is super soft and mushy
@@SpencleyDesignCo Dude, you're just being picky! (Peanuts, BTW)
great vid thx...will this saw roll through a 36" door? Just need to take the fence off?
Thank you for sharing
Hey - great review! Helped me quite a bit as I’m in the market for my first table saw. Between this video and some other research I was all set to purchase only to find they are out of stock at Home Depot; so much so that I wondered if something was up. I found very little real information on this, but it appears the saw may have been discontinued. Do you happen to know anything about that (asking since it appears you may have some contacts having gotten an early beta version of the saw)? Thanks! Oh, and peanuts!
The switch is a magnetic switch meant to disconnect when the power fails or is disconnected to keep the motor from powering up when power is restored or plug back on, is a safety feature
Peanuts, I luv your honesty about the craft, your tools, and stance on sponsors. I own a 4520 and it has served me well for the money i paid, n thats a perspective alot of social media people forget. Im lucky in the fact that i come from a family with a professional woodworking shop but theres no way i could afford personally ANY of the machines we use. hell atm i cant even justify a bandsaw or drill press for my garage. I do totally think the fence on every ridgid ive ever used thou is close to crap. they really need to rethink their design.
Thanks for the long term review! I appreciate the follow up.
Sure thing! Figured this would be a popular topic
Peanuts... I appreciate the video,especially because I am in the market for an upgrade. I currently have the same saw you replaced (just an older version). I like some of the features that are extremely frustrating on the smaller construction saw (the fence!). I found your channel because of this video; and noticed that in your latest video featuring the floating end table, your saw was different than Ridged. What saw are you using now?
Peanuts - thank you for the update! Nice to know all of the pros and cons about it, and I appreciate the candor about potential issues and compromises that may be a deal breaker. I have an old Ryobi BT3000 from 1991, and the riving knife adjustment on it is a nightmare. This would be a very nice upgrade, but there are some items with the Ridgid that I don't have with the Ryobi. I might look at one of the other jobsite models instead.
Thanks for the continued support, Erik! What saw are you most looking at?
@@SpencleyDesignCo I've been looking at the DWE7491RS, Ridgid R4560 & R4550 and a couple of others. I'm doing less projects now, so there's no rush. i figure new models will be coming out this year too, how that many of the Sawstop patents have expired.
I’d avoid the 4550. I’ve heard horror stories about how cheaply it’s made
@@SpencleyDesignCo Good to know - thanks.
Sure thing!
Peanuts…great video… appreciate the perspective on whether or not the right saw or not and the pros and cons feedback. Sounds like after you get it dialed in, good be a great saw…. Setting up my own dedicated shop (for hobby still) and not want wanting to spend thousands but get away from job site saw, so this might be a good fit. Thx again!
Thanks, James! Based on your needs, this saw would probably be a great fit!
Peanuts...I went from a Ryobi jobsite saw to the Ridgid R4520. I'm super happy with my purchase.
Really enjoyed the review on this one. Not looking for a new saw, but I was interested in seeing this one. Yeah, keep doing reviews! Enjoy the channel, brother.
Thank you very much, Tony!
Bought a Ridgid 4510 Jobsite saw in a yard sale... I have a small Garage/Shop area. It was used for rough work framing and such... I changed the blade, added zero insert, Dado so I could do cabinet grade work. I also have a shop smith and have done a lot of projects over the years, its truly a very small shop tool for a hobbyist woodworker. Back to the 4510... the Fence sucks always checking it and rechecking it... I attribute it to technology, when the 4510 was introduced few were thinking rack in pinion fences.... kinda like when I was in the Marines... "Suck it up Marine it's just gunfire"... Now couple of decades latter we all of us have tinnitus and hearing loss! Yes, I do wear ear protection in the shop!!! Good review, I watch 2 to 3 You tubes on woodworking every morning with my coffee, started with the covid shut down so I know a good reviewer when I see one! You do a good job and I haven't turned you off... that's a good review... ***** five stars. For Christmas I got a Track Saw and a 4X8 Centipede so I can cut 4x8 sheets ... that is where wood working is headed. Table saw still important but for plywood work Track Saw is the way to go... Keep up the good work enjoy the videos!
Peanut - Try having the saw running and either pull the plug or trip a circuit breaker. Do not touch the power switch on the saw. Plug the saw back in or turn on the circuit breaker. The saw should NOT turn back on until you press the on power switch. I think that the power switch on the saw has a magnetic safety feature.
Here is some info for others that do not have a magnetic safety switch.
There is a brand of power paddle switch that has an internal magnetic connection that will break contact if there is a power interruption.
You have to push the ON button to turn on a piece of equipment in the event of a power outage, manual unplugging of the equipment or a tripped circuit breaker. The equipment will not turn on when power is restored until the on button is pressed!
The switch comes in 4 configurations.
The base switch (71054V - $12.99) is a 110V/16AMP 1/2HP version with 1/4 inch spade connectors and IS magnetic. I found out that this would not work because the Bosch table saw has a motor that is rated at 4HP. I ended up sending it back.
The next up is a 110/220 volt switch. It (71007V - $16.99) is rated for 2HP/35 amps 120V and 3HP/20AMP 230V. I believe this one does not have spade connectors already on the switch. I did find screw mount 1/4" male spade connectors so that I would not have to cut off the original female connectors on the wires. This might be a good choice for moving it to other equipment. Keep the original switch so you can reinstall it on the saw. This is NOT a magnetic safety switch!
The next up is a 230V switch. It (71577 - $12.90) is rated for 2HP/16AMP and has 1/4" male spade connectors This switch is magnetic.
According to Powertec tech support it is not supposed to work with 120 volt but videos show it working just as it should. It has the best specs for my table saw. I will be installing it, hopefully this week and testing it for safety function. The description on Amazon is confusing because it says 120V in one spot and 230V in another.
The fourth switch 120V, (71755 - $32.89) is a corded so you just mount it and plug the power cord from your equipment into the female plug and then the male plug into the wall or extension cord outlet.
However, this switch is a single phase switch, 120V smart switch, 1/2 HP/16 amps so for most power equipment it will be important to know your HP specifications.
You can recreate this switch configuration with one of the previous listed switches by using a deep box and cutting the ends off of a 14 gauge extension cord and wiring the male and female ends to the switch. Use a 12 gauge extension cord if your device is 20AMP. it is NOT a magnetic switch.
The switch body dimensions will be a consideration if you want to put it in the original saw switch box. You may need a deep box or extension ring to accommodate the deep switch body.
Peanuts! Great review! One thing, I just bought (ordered) this saw today.
You said that it’s only 1 3/4 hp. I purchased the R4560 (same saw) but it is 3.2 hp. Did they do an upgrade? Thanks again for the review.
Peanuts, When you use your thin kerf blade do you use the same riving knife?
I really like my R4560. I bought a 52in fence for a delta 5000 and retro fit it on. I was hoping it would just bolt on but I did have to drill some new holes but it works flawless
PEANUTS: Just watched this and your previous video about this saw in lead to to likely buying one of these.
20 years ago my first table saw was the equivalent of this from that time. Then i sold it and moved around the world for years. Just get back into woodworking, so I'm so stoked!
Peanuts. The fence is adjustable to remove the wobble you referred to when moving the fence. There are 2 adjustment screws on the inside toward the body of the saw. Once I made that adjustment, the fence was great.
The riving knife looks to use Allen (hex) bolts, with a ball end on the wrench (key), it should be accessible, as it doesn't look to be too steep an angle, but I would use a ratchet anyways, with a wobble extension or universal joint. It might make it easier for you than trying to get at it with a straight tool.
Great video. I have the Delta 36-725T2, which I have heard delta is the manufacturer of this saw and these are practically the same saw.
Because of that, I wanted to give you what I found for something I want to do to my saw as a future upgrade, which may make your use and enjoyment of your own saw more pleasurable.
Materials:
74” square steel fence post (2” x 2”)
72” steel angle iron (1.5” x 1.5”, 1/8” thick)
12’ Fastcap reversible stick on tape measure
What he did was buy some L stock and a 2x2 metal fence post, then drilled the holes as needed, that way to both extend out the saw and to make them a single piece. That seems like a great way to upgrade the saw as a DIY project after the initial buy in.
Loved the video, just wanted to share that idea with you.
Cool! Thanks for the upgrade ideas
Delta offered a version of this saw, based on the first 36-725, which came with one-piece rails, actually (and a slightly upgraded fence), the 36-5000.
The one piece rails would be a massive upgrade!
I got the soft start model last month and the riving knife adjustment was a pita.
Appreciate all the points you brought up. It definitely looks like an capable saw, for a mid-range price. I've been making do with a Ryobi jobsite saw for a few years now. Once I can scrape together enough PEANUTS, I'm looking for something in this price range.
Right on! I've used that ryobi saw and you would definitely appreciate the upgrade :)
This video has pushed me over the edge. I have been using a Ryobi BT3000 saw with extensions for almost 20 years and need a left tilting saw with a good fence. Can’t justify $3k for a SawStop and want a cast iron top. Thanks for the review! It’s on order and will arrive in about 2 weeks!
I built carts for my big tools with 6" castors. Makes rolling it so much easier.
Peanuts! Great video, I have the delta 36-725t2 which I think is basically the same saw. I really enjoy it and it works great! But when it is slowing down after a cut it squeaks a little bit, do you have something similar with this saw?
I have not experienced that. Perhaps spray the arbor down with a little lubricant?
I added a magnetic switch to my tablesaw. If the power goes out or you pop the breaker, the switch disconnects. When power is restored, the saw will not turn on. It's a great safety feature. You don't want your saw starting up when your are not ready.
peanuts! that was one of the best review videos i have seen in going over the saw and almost every aspect, from mechanical, design, functionality, to personal preference. i am interested in this saw, but i have googled it and have not been able to find it. i noticed in reading comments here that some of you said you have it so how do i find it.
Thanks for the feedback Brian!
I have the Delta. I'm going to remove that flip-down thing. I added JesssEm stock guides to my saw and that thing just sits to the side getting in the way when I go to move the fence. Delta has a few variations of the saw. One includes cast iron wings and 1-piece fence guides.
peanuts ~ decent review dude. How do you cut with your trac-saw without it slipping around? I haven't bought one yet and I can't even touch the prices Festool charges ... although they seem like a good product. Could you review Trac-saws rails and their compatibility with standard skillsaws? Thanks ... oh, by the way ... what is your day job?
Peanuts - excellent video! I’m a new sub and new to woodworking. I found you while looking for a mobile table saw stand. I downloaded your plans and just made mine this weekend. I modified the height (I’m short!) and I didn’t do the drawers because I put my mitre saw in the bottom instead. My job site saw is a super lame Ryobi that was given to me. I’d like to invest in a nicer table saw this year, but not sure I need something as big as the one you just reviewed. I may do something like the Rigid you used to have or the Dewalt. Anyway, keep doing great vids! I’d love to see some tool reviews too! I’d like to make furniture like you do eventually as well. My next project is a TV stand and I’m stressed out since it’ll be the first “furniture” I’ve ever made and needs to be good. Got any good TV stand plans? 🤣
Welcome aboard, John! I’ve got a tv stand way way way back in the archives. It’s pretty easy to build, the video quality isn’t great though 🤣 ua-cam.com/video/E39aDDQRryQ/v-deo.html
As far as the play in the fence, you need to adjust the 2 screws under the fence to stop the sloppiness. I have a Delta 36-725 T2 (same saw) and had the same issue.
I tried that and then it became impossible to lock down. Maybe I need to take another look at it
Peanuts. Thanks for all the good info! I'm interested in buying this saw for the exact reasons you mentioned in your last video about it. I need a bigger, sturdier saw but I'm not ready to morgage my house to get one. Just curious, is it belt driven or direct drive? If it is belt driven the motor could potentially be upgraded.
I’m glad to hear you found it helpful! I’m not sure if it’s belt driven
Really, really nice review! Thanks!
Thanks, Daniel! I appreciate the feedback
PEANUTS!!! Hello there, fellow ohioan lol, love the review on this table saw, have been going back and forth between this and the delta. However they are both roughly the same size and I want to build a rolling work table with the table saw built in.. do you think it would work out and or do you recommend that? thank you!!
Peanuts - Do you still use this as your primary saw? Has it held up? I am looking at this saw and its twin brother, the Delta 36-725T2. Also, did you ever replace the extensions with wood? If so, what did you use and if not, what would you have used? Thank you for great videos, I have watched a lot of your stuff and just subscribed, should have done it months ago.
Probably a good idea to use a box connector for the cord going into that handy box
I have the equivalent Delta and I agree the adjustment are a total PITA. I work in my basement (though it is a walkout) but also don't have room or the ability to move a 900lb sawstop
The adjustments on this saw are BRUTAL 🤯
"Peanuts" Just a quick thought on the switch when you are changing a blade, Cut a small dowel put velcro tape on the end to hold it to the side of the switch mech then using the lock out feature place the dowel ping into the lock out holes, there you have your visual conformation that the switch is off.
Peanuts - Very detailed video, well done. I was fortunate enough to buy the Delta 36-725T2 50% off over black Friday. It is essentially the same saw. I already have a cabinet style contractor saw - a 12 year old Hitachi - that works well for me, but doesn't have the Bessemer style fence and only a 24" rip. Unfortunately, I find the fence to be quite finicky. There's a lot of play and rocking when sliding it across the table and locking it down, despite adjustment, making it a little painful to set it precisely. I've since learned how to make it work and I'm OK with it because it locks down rock solid. The other complaint I had was that no matter what I did, I couldn't get the table extensions to set flush all the way across. The two piece rails were really difficult to align properly during install. I spent hours loosening and tightening them until I called it good enough. Again, for a MSRP $700 saw, not the worst thing in the world, but definitely not ideal. My old Hitachi was much easier to tune. Also, why 2.5" suction??? My Hitachi has 4".
Anyway, thanks for the video. I wish you luck in your woodworking journey! Go Blue! ;)
Thanks for much for watching, kristofer!
good video.. i been running hot for that saw.. glad i did some research
Thanks for watching, Doug!
Peanuts - Thanks Eric for the great content! I especially appreciate your tips on calibrating this saw, as I just purchases this model. I've completed the initial assembly, but now have to dial everything in. Do you find that you mostly stick with the stock throat plate, or do you mostly use your custom zero-clearance insert? When using the zero-clearance insert, is there a significant impact on dust collection?
Thanks, James! I typically stick with the normal throat plate and only use the others when necessary. Doesn’t seem to have much impact on dust
@@SpencleyDesignCo Have you found any issues with using blades other than the one it came with? I notice in the manual the that recommended blade tolerances don't seem to match blades you can actually buy - they list 0.102 minimum kerf with and 0.073 maximum body width. Thin kerf blades such as Diablo or CMT have 0.098 kerf width and 0.71 body, so slightly too thin of kerf. On the other hand, a CMT full kerf blade is 0.126 and 0.087, so too thick of body. Any suggestions from your experience? Thanks!
I haven’t had any issues with mine. I did notice that the paint wore off the riving knife very quickly though
Just ordered one at Home Depot.This is the same as the Delta at Lowes that I have been drooling over for 2 years now.Picking up March 15 2022.
Cool!
Ive had mine for 6 months and absolutely LOVE it. I went from a tiny jobsite skilsaw to this beast and it is amazing.
Nice! Experienced any issues so far?
@@SpencleyDesignCo no issues what so ever. It’s so nice to actually just set me fence and not have to double check it. With my job site saw I would have to measure from blade to fence haha
Trust me, I know that struggle 🤣
Peanuts. Great review, I would enjoy seeing more tool reviews. Also, it feels like you are reviewing my Delta #36-725T2. I mean it is the same. Does the motor have a Delta label?? The power switch is made that way for safety. Its not my favorite but I know it will never be in the on position when I go to plug it in.
They saw is made by their same parent company so I’m sure most (if not all) of the parts are similar
Great video, Eric!
Not sure if this relates to a peanuts type thing and I know this isn't really a specific tool in your shop. Do you find the woodpecker fence guide to your table saw works well and is a significant improvement?
Thanks, Matthys! I think if you are someone who routinely batches out repetitive cuts, it's nice to have. Full disclosure: I did not pay for it. If I were spending my own money, I do not think I would personally buy it since I do not bath out repetitive cuts very often.
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thanks. That makes sense.
Sure thing!
The saw I think has electronic soft start
Hence when power plug is pulled it is always off
That’s also probably why it isn’t a huge toggle switch like the old one
It’s more like a computer power button and less like a power strip power switch
I believe all the soft start saws are like that, but the green bit could be bigger 🙂
Yup, it’s a magnetic switch
Peanuts: Wing replacement, somewhere I can buy? Or are you making for sale a better solution? I am a beginner, just purchased this unit and still in the box. Setup tomorrow. Appreciate all your videos on this unit. Subscribed to learn more, Thank you.
Check out my recent videos. I’ve shown how I made them
Peanuts, your saw looks extremely similar to my Delta saw. I like my saw and i definitely agree it needs 4 leveling feet and an easier way to level it. What upgrades have you done to to date and any future upgrades?
Just picked the saw up, i huge upgrade from my jobsite saw.
Peanuts, I'd like to see more info on the dado capabilities. I am wondering if it would be ok for cutting 3/4 rabbets 3/8 deep on concrete form plywood
You can use a dado stack, but not 3/4”
I think most saw fences benefit from some positive pressure while adjusting. I have an older Ridgid saw with aluminum (one-piece) rails that pulls the head toward the saw and makes it easy to press lightly against it to keep the indicator accurate without really thinking about it.
Unfortunately this one doesn’t
I love this video and your channel.
Happy to habe found it.
Peanuts and greedings from an austrian carpenter
Thanks Jan! I appreciate the support! Any videos you’d like to see in the future?
Peanuts" Hello again, two more question, how is the dust collection in your opinion???? and how accurate is the fence?? thanks again.
They’re both fine, but not great
We delta owners know that saw as the delta 36-725T2. You can buy it in black and blue from lowes, while the home depot version is the ridgid, manufactured by the same company. The aluminum on that fence is wavy. That’s from all owners of that fence. We all usually change the aluminum with an extruded aluminum.
Thank for watching
Peanuts. There are screw adjustments to minimize the fence slop. I did mine and it's just about perfect.
Have you considered bolting the sawstop cast iron wings onto the table? Apparently they fit with just a couple new holes.
I have not. I’m working on a built in router table that should be out in a few weeks
Peanuts. I'm curious about your riving knife. It looks like the black paint has worn away. Did you grind down the knife to work with thinner kerf blades, or have you run that much wood through the saw that it wore off? I bought one of these back in September and I love it mostly (4 stars). I struggled with pretty much all the things you addressed in the video, but my number one issue with the saw is the specifications for the blade. The plate thickness and kerf to work with the riving knife. I was only able to find one blade that meets the manufacturer specifications of max plate thickness 0.073" and minimum kerf 0.102". Most blades have too thick a plate if they have a kerf greater than .102" or too thin a kerf if they are under 0.073" plate thickness, and the blade that comes with the saw is trash.
I did not do anything to the riving knife. Looks like the paint just wore off
Peanuts! Not because I have a question but just so you know I watched the whole video.
I can't wait to actually get mine, I have a 10 year old 13amp Ryobi contractor saw that actually scares me at this point. Blades dropped mid cut, shut off mid cut and honestly is way past its prime. While I can put a 220 in my location as a weekend hobbyist I can't validate the cost of a true cabinet saw. This is a nice middle ground and would love to see more tool reviews from you. Happy I found you. P.S I saw your review on the homedepot product page 😀
Thanks, Josh! I appreciate the support!
Peanuts 😉. Did you have a designated circuit for the table saw? And did you an extension cord and what gauge ? Thank you 🙏🏾
Unfortunately I’m quite limited with power in here. I use a 12 gauge extension cord. I talk more about those issues in my shop tour video here: ua-cam.com/video/jJ7h5z0OrKU/v-deo.html
Update…I got my Ridgid R4560 and assembled it today. If you recall, your video review is what sold me on this saw. Once assembled I went through all the checks and the only tweak it needed was the riving knife was a bit out of whack. Otherwise, it was just perfect. And, maybe we can attribute this directly to your video, the table extension wings are no longer “flimsy” as you described. A darn nice saw, offered to me by THD with a military discount! You should get a commission!
Nice! The riving knife was a real nightmare to get situated
Peanuts!! Great review. Keep them coming. I am subscribing to your channel today because of this review.
The only thing I might disagree with is the comment you made about going to a 3hp motor and only having 120v. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there are some 3hp 120v table saws out there. Thoughts?
Thanks for the support! I do not believe I’ve ever seen a 3HP 120v saw. If they do have one, it probably pulls a ridiculous amount of amps
Peanuts! Good review. I watch lots of reviews, and I prefer the ones made by someone who has used the tool for 6 mos. to a year-- always more honest, focused and aware of all the little quirks with the thing. I recently got my first table saw (at 66yo!). It's a jobsite saw, put out by Kobalt (yes, Lowe's ), but it's 10" and 15amps. I don't know the HP of the thing, but it must be about like yours-- 1 3/4hp. Certainly no more. The table top is aluminum, disappointing. But it was only $300.00, so there's that.
I owned the original saw with cast iron extensions and loved it but when they cheapened things by going with stamped steel, I would not buy another one. I sure miss the earlier version!
It looks like you can adjust blade to the slot with the two holes on top of the table. Looks like it attaches to the trunnions below
Those are used to set the positive stops at 0 and 45 degrees
Peanut.... Eric I enjoy watching your videos and hope you can make this a full time gig for you in the future. That is where this critique comes from. I get that as a content creator you sometime have to film content months prior to the release date. At the time of filming this saw was not on the market yet and there was not a lot if info about it. When you posted this video a lot of the things you said you had not idea about has been available for over a month. Could have made a couple of small updates to the video and take it from a 7/10 to a 10/10 and knocked it out of the park. Keep up the good work I look forward to what is to come.
Thanks so much for watching, Daniel
I have the delta version of this saw, and agree the wings are garbage, and I do wish the foot pedal made the wheel go further down because you have **any** threading out of the feet at all, they grab. You have to thread them basically all the way back in to use it.
Re: the fence... I just move the fence from the T end and all that worry goes away. I don't slide it from the fence body.
Peanuts - can you run the saw AND dust collection at the same time, off the same single circuit? I’m in the same 120 volt boat as you.
I’m only able to do it on really small cuts. If it’s 8/4 hardwood I can’t do both at the same time
I would like to see this saw with an ability to use 220v AC power vs just 110v AC. I have an RV outlet that I use with my 220v saw and welder. It works very well, and single phase saws notoriously are underpowered, even saws rated at 1.75hp seem to have much more power running on 220v
Btw, great review. It is very detailed and better than many of the sponsored reviews I've seen. For $700, I personally would buy a used unisaw or Grizzly/Shopfox/Jet etc on a 220v 2 phase.
peanut,,,do you still have this saw and are you happy with it,,or do you wish you had a different one,,like maybe a grizzly or jet
I unfortunately still have it and am seeing a lot of problems with it now
Eric, what are the dimensions of the cast iron portion of the saw. Specifically the front edge of the cast iron table to the rear edge, not counting the depth added by the front and rear fence rails.
I'm having difficult interpreting the specs on the Home Depot and Ridgid websites.
It’s about 27 or so
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thank you, exactly the info I was trying to verify.
I have a Delta 36-725 T2 and the Ridgid is nothing more than an "Orange Delta" saw. My question is did you have any issues with the motor??? I also agree with you on the wings ... they are bad. Once leveled did they stay in adjustment for you or did you have to at least check them weekly? I am waiting for someone to bring out a Cast Iron wing for this saw. I read about people who have bought the Saw Stop wings but had to drill some holes to make them fit onto the delta saw. I might try that at some point. $400 is not going to bankrupt me but that type of thing is a bit about my pay grade.
I have no had any motor issues with mine after a year
I'd like to see a more detailed video about making adjustments to the saw, particularly adjusting riving knife and blade. From what I can tell, this saw seems like a clone of the Lowe's Delta 36-725 T2, which is what I bought.
You can find a lot of videos about adjustments on the delta saw. They’re exactly the same
Peanuts-great review. I've been looking at this saw for a while now; however, I have one concern. Since this is an exact copy of the Delta t2, are they going to have the same issues with the motor, or have they worked the "bugs" out?
Thanks, Michael! Im not sure if the motor is exactly the same. I’ve had mine for just under a year and haven’t had issues yet
@Spencley Design Co. Yeah, it seems that most people who have an issue with the Deltas. Their motor goes within the first 6-8 months depending on use.
Well hopefully that doesn’t happen 🤣
Peanuts, great video. I think more tool review videos would be good.
I appreciate the feedback, Daniel!
Peanuts. What is the toggle switch at the front left side?
Peanuts ... any tips on how to increase rip capacity? Your vids rock by the way, funny too.
Peanuts: Thanks for your review, My question is does this Table Saw have a break?? I mean when you turn off the saw the blade stop spinning fast??
Check out the first video I did on this saw that shows how fast the blade stops
Peanuts! Nice review! That looks like a decent saw! I have an axminster craft 10 inch table saw and it comes with the same disappointing stamped steel wings. Currently building a stand for it and making the wings out of 3/4" black MDF supported on all sides. Should be much more stable! (And yes also putting a router in one of the sides :))
Thank sounds like a sweet upgrade! Never heard of that saw brand before. Is it European?
@@SpencleyDesignCo Yeah Axminster is a UK brand and their craft branded is really good affordable line of tools. As in, good value for money. The table saw I have is still about $1000 but it's so solid and for cabinet type table saw it's a really a very good option. I have no regrets and don't need to load it in a van, ever :) (I couldn't. It's 100kg). They have a professional line of machines as well that I believe are made by Harvey which you might be more familiar with.
Interesting! I’ll have to take a look at their offerings
“Peanuts” thanks for taking the time for such a thorough review. I am in a similar situation… I have a rigid jobsite saw. I love the portability but I cannot keep the fence or the blade consistently straight. In my job site site is very underpowered. I’m even having difficulty ripping 2x4’s. I want to upgrade and I don’t think I can justify jumping into the saw stop market at this point. . Even though you stated it would’ve been nicer to have a 3 hp saw… This current saw that you’re reviewing, still has more power than your job site, correct? Thanks.
Thanks for watching! It’s about the same amount of power but unfortunately the saw is falling apart now
@@SpencleyDesignCo I was looking into this saw but this comment has me scared. What happened to your saw?
Hey Spencley ... I own a production R4560 saw and probably have the benefit of a manual that's a little more refined than what you had available to you. I didn't have half the issues with saw calibration that you experienced. My riving knife was a bit out of alignment and it took me all of 5 minutes to correct the problem. First of all, (and I'm sure you are fully aware by now), the 4 boults that allow the alignment of the RK are hex and I found the alignment extremely easy to accomplish. The balance of my saw was spot on out of the box and I couldn't be happier about my purchase.
You brought up several items I too wish were better with this saw, but you also have to be honest in your assessment of the R4560, you can't find anything on the market, other than it's cousin, the Delta for $40 more, even in the same universe capable of competing with this saw. You would have to pay well over $1,000 to even think about cast wings or better dust collection.
The R4560 is the best deal, period ... of any serious saw on the market today within double its price.
It’s definitely a decent deal
100% agree! This saw is an amazing value and is the quarterback of my woodshop.
Mini splits are great for low noise when you get a place you can add that too. Wouldn't do it to a rental unless the landlord is willing to pony up some cash. Mitsubishi are the best but pricey. You get 12 year warranty if there's a trained diamond dealer in your area
Does it have plastic gears to raise and lower the blade?
They appear to be metal
Regarding the electrical 'mechanism' that keeps the saw from inadvertently operating when you don't want it to: it's called a NVR switch. No Voltage Release. The channel, Proper DIY, has a great segment within his latest video on powering his workbench which demonstrates how and why it works. He is in the UK so terminology may be a tad different for the same thing here in the States.
Yup, other folks refer to it as a "magnetic switch" too. I just prefer a mechanical switch as this one is very sloppy and mushy
@@SpencleyDesignCo That they are - but they're super safe and can be trusted. We've had them for years and years here in europe :)
That being said - my table saw has a little mechanical-ish electrical switch, one of those turn-to-lock-out red buttons in addition to the NVR switch so I guess it's to please all preferences :-)
Exactly, it’s all preference 😀
@@SpencleyDesignCo Yup. I still keep pulling out my lead personally though... bad time to accidentally hit any switch in some freak accident kind of way with my hands somewhere down in the machine.
Oh 100% I always unplug the saw just like I always unplug my router when I change bits
I posted this on your first video before I noticed this one.
Your saw has a magnetic switch. If it you disconnect it, or it loses
power it should not start when plugged back in or the power comes back
on.
Also, I had the Delta version of this saw and had 2 problems with it.
One issue was the table was not very flat. The big problem was the fact
that the arbor assembly had play in it and my zero clearance insert
looked like the one from your old saw. I could grab the arbor nut and
rock the assembly back and forth. I went to my local Lowes and the
display model did that same thing. I returned it and went with a
different saw. I bought a Fusion F2, had problems with that and
returned it. I then ended up with a Shop Fox W1837 and have been very
happy with it.
What should you buy? Well, I built a mobile base for my saw with built
in extension tables and storage. Got a real fence for it and all is
well. At the time I did not want to get another job site saw either.
The contractor version of the Saw Stop was a no go for me due to the
external motor. A full cabinet saw was a no go as I need it to be
mobile. The Delta, and then Shop Fox W1837 both work well with my
mobile table idea. However, now that I look at my table, I could have
easily built the able around the Saw Stop jobsite saw, and still used
the same fence setup that I have now. I have a Jet Xacta rail kit with
53" rip capacity and a Very Super Cool Tools fence. It is a great
setup. Anyway, just wanted to share this info. There are 3 big
drawbacks to jobsite saws. The stability of the saw on the stand, the
small table surface area and the bad fences. I could have resolved all
of those issues with my mobile stand and had the safety features of the
Saw Stop.
Yup, i know it’s a magnetic switch 😀
Peanuts! I used to have the delta version of this saw before I bought a saws contractor saw, and I loved it! One tip I’ll give though is to not have the riving knife perfectly parallel with the blade. I usually like to offset mine 1 or 2 thousandths toward the fence, so it’s not off too much, but it kinda acts like a featherboard on the rear side to keep the workpiece fully pressed up against the fence. Then I just use a featherboard on the front side. I do agree, stamped steel wings aren’t great, both the ones on my delta and my sawstop are really bad. I actually just upgraded to a 3hp sawstop that I found used, and i didn’t realize how much of a difference cast iron makes! This is a great video for anyone looking to buy this insanely affordable table saw!
That's an awesome tip! Thanks, Arpad!
@@SpencleyDesignCo I found out because my delta saw had the riving knife like that out of the box, I was going to adjust it, but ended up not doing it because it helped me get straighter cuts! Thanks Eric!
What I really need are those fancy Jessem guides that pull the piece towards the fence…but I’m not a millionaire 🤣
@@SpencleyDesignCo same here! I’m not made of money! That riving knife trick works really well for me! But i could use some of those jessem guides!
Maybe I’ll open my door one day and they’ll be sitting there for me 🤣
Peanuts (see I did watch the whole video!). My primary question is about your work space. I know you said it is a small one car garage.
I’m contemplating setting up a woodwork shop. My available space is approximately 12x24. Would you mind letting us know the actual dimensions of your space? I tend to think a ton of space is required until I see guys like you and others operating out of small shops. Thanks.
Thanks for watching, Randall! Here’s a shop tour video I did that answers your questions: ua-cam.com/video/jJ7h5z0OrKU/v-deo.html
Peanuts - Great review, I'll be hopefully picking up mine this weekend. What blade are you running on it? Is it a thin kerf? I've heard that a thin kerf saw is great option for saws with less than 3hp. But I've also read the riving knife is possibly to close in thickness to the thickness of a thin kerf blade which isn't very safe.
I’ve got a thin kerf on it. I’d honestly avoid getting this saw now. It’s falling apart on me and I need to replace it
@@SpencleyDesignCo Really, that's a bummer. Could you specify what areas are falling apart? I liked the price point so much bc the next best saw pushes me into $1200-1500 range.
The fence doesn’t stay square, adjustments handles have broken off, motor is failing, rails are bending, and many more things
Wow, I guess I'll return it and try for a Grizzly, Jet, Laguna or Rikon hybrid table saw. I read they fixed the issue with the motor but apparently not. Really appreciate the quick reply and honest opinion. Just got the email that it's ready to be picked up, you've saved me some trouble and headache. Really enjoy the videos, keep it up.
Thanks mike! You might have good luck with this saw, but I can only speak honestly about my experiences with it