@lee-lb9qh but you are also forgetting Brushless, Brushed and that they currently sell multiple generations in Brushless and Atomic. I think that is where the confusion comes.
The 800 is one drill that almost never get's put away at my house. I use that drill over most others both in my shop and around the house. It's the one that I recommend most to people and it's just because of how good it is for the size and money. The 1007 is really impressing so far and so for the coming month or two those are going to be the drills that I use and my Milwaukee's are going to ride the bench a little bit more.
The 1007 was designed around the new PowerPack battery. It needs the high current flow the tabless cells and pouch cells provide to get those big numbers. The 5Ah PowerStacks are really affordable right now, so I’m not sure how many $230 PowerPacks they’re gonna sell in the near future. The price would have to come down considerably for me to replace/upgrade the batteries I currently have.
I like the fact that the new PowerPack 8ah didn't increase in price over the older 8ah XR. Milwaukee did the same thing with their Forge batteries in the 8ah and 12ah capacities. I am have liked to see that even if they are still expensive.
Please help I’m not an expert but I use drill for most concrete and masonry works I see the 999 with 6amp flex battery at $230 and the 998 8amp battery at $280 not sure what to buy any recommendations?
I go back and forth. I really dislike driving Phillips head screws with a drill. But now i use mostly torx screws so it’s not that big of a deal anymore.
I hear ya rich. I bought a new 12 Volt DeWalt NiCd 1/4” impact driver, shortly after they released it, and it was a game changer for setting custom cabinets. My right elbow approved! Of course, I couldn’t use it in some situations where the noise bothered the customer, or the location, as in a Library, etc. Makita made a sweet 12 volt impact then, but place where I had an account, didn't sell Makita, so I went with DeWalt. Nice impact, let down by the batteries.
The reason is evident in the footage. Constant torque is WAY more likely to cam the bit out of the screw. It happened several times. Impacts are louder and more obnoxious though. I personally use smaller or medium 1/2 impacts for bigger screws as the 1/4 format isn't really strong enough and they drive them in with such absolute confidence. Eg DCF921 DCF891
Good testing. After a few weeks in the field, I love my 1007. Your results line up with my experience. For ordinary tasks it's impossible to see a difference but the tougher the job the more the 1007 seems to step up. I find that to be an admirable quality. So far for me it's really stood out drilling into concrete slabs. Everyone knows that an SDS drill is the right tool for large diameter holes or for stuff that has aggregate in it, or if you're drilling that kind of stuff all day. But I wonder if the 1007 is gaining ground on SDS drills. I wonder how an SDS drill would perform in your masonry drilling test versus the 1007.
I have a smaller Bosch SDS and I have been thinking about trying it against some hammer drills. But I know it’s not the top of the line SDS by any means.
@@TinkerWithTools I'd be curious to see. I know they say cordless circular saws are just as good now as corded. I know that a 1007 or any non SDS hammer drill will never replace an SDS. But with the power and run time of the 1007 with the great batteries we've been seeing I know battery non SDS hammer drills are improving. Coming from my 985 my 1007 with a new masonry bit COOKS. The results of your masonry testing shows significant improvement in the hammer function over the previous generations. So, yeah, I'd be curious to see if a battery non SDS can compete with a corded SDS or even a battery SDS in any way or if they're still just for a few small diameter holes in cement or brick.
I have the old 36v Dewalt hammer drill I think it is a 901 I have to say it is a beast I bought it new i have a 996 and 999 also but I've never done a comparison test between them.
Seems like a worthy successor. Pity that I have so many drills already to justify the purchase..Dewalt knows how to make drill-drivers, no doubt. I especially like their chucks, not always dead on straight, but they keep the bit quite steady and don't drop it easily.
Great review Tinker With Tools !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have had good results with the 5.0 PowerStack, and keep it on my planer. I’m not surprised it does well on the drills, and that is what I personally would run. The 8.0 XR batteries are solid dependable batteries, but I would go with the 6.0 XR ones. I know you said you didn't have them. They are great batteries, and I would argue, some of the best DeWalt has. @10:58, I think You meant to say the DCD805 was a DNF? Hammer drilling is best left to Rotary Hammers anyway. But in a pinch, light duty stuff can get done with any of these. Great test but I am disappointed You didn't include the little DCD799! 😯 🙄 🤣 I think it would have done well. It does NOT like to hammer drill either! Take care and enjoy your weekend!
@@TinkerWithTools No biggie, just making sure I was seein it right? Hey, on topic of drills, Do You like/ prefer the DCD 805, over the 800? And do You think the 805 has an edge on the 800, or about the same in performance? Have great weekend!
I can’t imagine anyone needing something more than a DCD99x so it almost doesn’t even matter how much better it does than the ones we already own. I do regret buying a DCD998 and never using it before the DCD1007 was announced. Now I can’t even say I got the “best” one “just in case.” ;)
My old 996 is very tired. I've thrashed it for a long time. Chuck is too bard to change. Good tests showing the ability to do jobs in high speed. Suggestion for clarity: test starting in each speed and award a DNF if stalling out. Then tabulate. The limitation has to be the bits themselves getting too hot and dulling when pushed that hard, right? Maybe an acceptable sacrifice for some.
I feel with most power tools getting smaller and more powerful I think it could hurt the overall sales of the dcd1007 the 998 and 999 are heavy enough I will probably get one and try it but whether or not I keep it will depend on the weight if I can bear with it all day or most of the day? I am excited to eventually get my hands on one
I think that personally I have settled on a compact and full size mentality for tools. if you only want one drill then I get that makes the decision but I like having a compact drill that I can use for the majority of stuff, but then when I need the extra power, I turn to full size.
Thanks for the video ,I would have loved to see the 805 tested a bit more against the big boys,btw if your worried about kickback it's only on long auger bits you get kick back imo.
I have run the 805 on both the 1-1/2" and 1-5/8" bits that I ran in this video before and both can get a little dicey on each of those bits. Running them on the 800 even more so simply because there is less to hold on to.
I have a comparison between this new DEWALT drill and other top hammer drills including the Milwaukee if you are interested. There are a lot of good drills out there to choose from.
Realistically none of these UA-cam reviews will address your use case. It’s not the initial performance you really care about, it’s durability and ease of warranty. From everything I’ve read, Milwaukee is the worst of the pro brands by far on the jobsite. I’d probably steer you towards Makita XGT or Metabo HPT 36V if their lineup meets your needs.
@markNakib you are right that long term durability is going to be something that is difficult to show. I try to report back when I have issues with drills and so far, I have had issues with several brands so I am not so sure that there is a magic bullet when it comes to picking one that will never have problems. I have had to do warranty repairs with Milwaukee, Makita, Flex (didn't register in time but I needed to do a warranty) and I have had a chuck start to fail on a Metabo HPT. But with each of those brands I have tools that are several years old at this point with no issues.
I am surprized Dewalt never made a 60 volt hammer drill driver. I have most of the Atomic tools in 20 volt. I have the 60 volt worm style circ. say. Can't deside with 60 volt drill to get?
I don’t know why they haven’t other than they just felt like the benefit wasn’t needed. I would be shocked if they didn’t have some prototypes kicking around somewhere though.
Unless they make huge motors, which will make the tool like an SDS drill and really uncomfortable to use one hand - there is no point. They have utilised the power of the more potent batteries, that is all they need. Higher voltage motor does not mean automatically more powerful tool. Look at Makita top tier 40V and 18V impact drivers, where they aim to make the body as small as possible - no difference in power at all.
HI im a fan from philippines. and also a dewalt user. been looking lately for some tools. just wondering if you consider giving away or selling one of your collection? 😊
I don't see them changing the 20v Max platform any time soon. If anything the recent changes of the branding on those batteries just further supports that opinion.
The 996 is rated at roughly 820 UWO depending on where you get your numbers. The 805 is at 850. But if you find torque figures for the two drills you will see the 805 at 90nm and the 996 at 95nm through some sources. I think that starts to support what I have witnessed in testing where on lighter duty stuff up to about 1" drill bits and may 6" fasteners or so, the 805 can beat the 996 but on the higher torque tasks, I find that the 996 pushes through a little better.
I love dewalt but you need to be Sherlock Holmes to decode their lineup.
Right, KGB makes DeWalt Model #’s
Agreed. At least this latest offering is a step in the right direction.
Not really, Atomic is the smallest 20 volt tool they make, then there is compact XR and full size all beans XR, 12 volt line is Xtreme
@lee-lb9qh but you are also forgetting Brushless, Brushed and that they currently sell multiple generations in Brushless and Atomic. I think that is where the confusion comes.
I don't really "need" the 1007.... but I sure do want one 😂. Gonna pick me up a dcd800 for a Christmas gift for myself this year.
Have had the 805 Since last Fall just got the 1007 LAST week love both of them if i had to go Down to two Drills these would be the ONES i would KEEP
The 800 is one drill that almost never get's put away at my house. I use that drill over most others both in my shop and around the house. It's the one that I recommend most to people and it's just because of how good it is for the size and money. The 1007 is really impressing so far and so for the coming month or two those are going to be the drills that I use and my Milwaukee's are going to ride the bench a little bit more.
The 1007 was designed around the new PowerPack battery. It needs the high current flow the tabless cells and pouch cells provide to get those big numbers. The 5Ah PowerStacks are really affordable right now, so I’m not sure how many $230 PowerPacks they’re gonna sell in the near future. The price would have to come down considerably for me to replace/upgrade the batteries I currently have.
I like the fact that the new PowerPack 8ah didn't increase in price over the older 8ah XR. Milwaukee did the same thing with their Forge batteries in the 8ah and 12ah capacities. I am have liked to see that even if they are still expensive.
Please help I’m not an expert but I use drill for most concrete and masonry works I see the 999 with 6amp flex battery at $230 and the 998 8amp battery at $280 not sure what to buy any recommendations?
20 some years ago I drove a screw with an 1/4" hex impact drive. I have never used a drill to drive a screw since then.
I go back and forth. I really dislike driving Phillips head screws with a drill. But now i use mostly torx screws so it’s not that big of a deal anymore.
I hear ya rich. I bought a new 12 Volt DeWalt NiCd 1/4” impact driver, shortly after they released it, and it was a game changer for setting custom cabinets. My right elbow approved! Of course, I couldn’t use it in some situations where the noise bothered the customer, or the location, as in a Library, etc. Makita made a sweet 12 volt impact then, but place where I had an account, didn't sell Makita, so I went with DeWalt. Nice impact, let down by the batteries.
@@georgedavall9449 The 12 volt was my first also added the 18 volt and now the 20 volt Atomic.
@@georgedavall9449Haha, same here. Not that long ago though. Only for small home stuff if there is not an impactor around.
The reason is evident in the footage. Constant torque is WAY more likely to cam the bit out of the screw. It happened several times. Impacts are louder and more obnoxious though. I personally use smaller or medium 1/2 impacts for bigger screws as the 1/4 format isn't really strong enough and they drive them in with such absolute confidence. Eg DCF921 DCF891
That drill combined with the dcd800 and one of the new impacts would be such a nice setup!
Coincidentally that’s the combination I have elected to run for the time being.
like the summary in the end about the battery.
Thanks!
Thank you for doing this comparison. It was quite interesting to see these guys go head to head.
Glad you liked it!
Good testing. After a few weeks in the field, I love my 1007. Your results line up with my experience. For ordinary tasks it's impossible to see a difference but the tougher the job the more the 1007 seems to step up. I find that to be an admirable quality. So far for me it's really stood out drilling into concrete slabs. Everyone knows that an SDS drill is the right tool for large diameter holes or for stuff that has aggregate in it, or if you're drilling that kind of stuff all day. But I wonder if the 1007 is gaining ground on SDS drills. I wonder how an SDS drill would perform in your masonry drilling test versus the 1007.
I have a smaller Bosch SDS and I have been thinking about trying it against some hammer drills. But I know it’s not the top of the line SDS by any means.
@@TinkerWithTools I'd be curious to see. I know they say cordless circular saws are just as good now as corded. I know that a 1007 or any non SDS hammer drill will never replace an SDS. But with the power and run time of the 1007 with the great batteries we've been seeing I know battery non SDS hammer drills are improving. Coming from my 985 my 1007 with a new masonry bit COOKS. The results of your masonry testing shows significant improvement in the hammer function over the previous generations. So, yeah, I'd be curious to see if a battery non SDS can compete with a corded SDS or even a battery SDS in any way or if they're still just for a few small diameter holes in cement or brick.
I'll see what I can come up with in a short in the next week.
What’s the main difference between the 998 and the 999.
I have the old 36v Dewalt hammer drill I think it is a 901 I have to say it is a beast I bought it new i have a 996 and 999 also but I've never done a comparison test between them.
I like my old DCD796 💛
never owned that one but I have been tempted to buy it at times just for comparisons.
Thanks for the video. I'll continue to use my DCD999 with the 9AH Flexvolt.
It’s a good drill.
@@TinkerWithTools I just have to continually remind myself to use the handle, which is an extra step, but a wrist saver.
Seems like a worthy successor. Pity that I have so many drills already to justify the purchase..Dewalt knows how to make drill-drivers, no doubt. I especially like their chucks, not always dead on straight, but they keep the bit quite steady and don't drop it easily.
I have loved my DEWALT DCD800. Hands down my favorite drill.
Great review Tinker With Tools !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have had good results with the 5.0 PowerStack, and keep it on my planer. I’m not surprised it does well on the drills, and that is what I personally would run. The 8.0 XR batteries are solid dependable batteries, but I would go with the 6.0 XR ones. I know you said you didn't have them. They are great batteries, and I would argue, some of the best DeWalt has.
@10:58, I think You meant to say the DCD805 was a DNF? Hammer drilling is best left to Rotary Hammers anyway. But in a pinch, light duty stuff can get done with any of these.
Great test but I am disappointed You didn't include the little DCD799! 😯 🙄 🤣 I think it would have done well. It does NOT like to hammer drill either! Take care and enjoy your weekend!
You are right... I got the label of the 996 and the 805 reversed.
@@TinkerWithTools No biggie, just making sure I was seein it right? Hey, on topic of drills, Do You like/ prefer the DCD 805, over the 800? And do You think the 805 has an edge on the 800, or about the same in performance? Have great weekend!
Sorry I missed this reply.
I can’t imagine anyone needing something more than a DCD99x so it almost doesn’t even matter how much better it does than the ones we already own. I do regret buying a DCD998 and never using it before the DCD1007 was announced. Now I can’t even say I got the “best” one “just in case.” ;)
the prior generations are going to still be solid drills for a while for sure.
I have the 996, works for what i use it for, no need to upgrade.....
If you're using it a lot the chuck will let you down at some point. Mine is toast. It's earned its keep though.
@@fredio54 I use mine every day, multi times a day.....chuck has been fine......I think five or six years now.....
hello, can you do a test between dewalt dcd800 and bosch gsr18v-800c?
I'll see what I can do!
My old 996 is very tired. I've thrashed it for a long time. Chuck is too bard to change. Good tests showing the ability to do jobs in high speed. Suggestion for clarity: test starting in each speed and award a DNF if stalling out. Then tabulate. The limitation has to be the bits themselves getting too hot and dulling when pushed that hard, right? Maybe an acceptable sacrifice for some.
Great point!
I feel with most power tools getting smaller and more powerful I think it could hurt the overall sales of the dcd1007 the 998 and 999 are heavy enough I will probably get one and try it but whether or not I keep it will depend on the weight if I can bear with it all day or most of the day? I am excited to eventually get my hands on one
I think that personally I have settled on a compact and full size mentality for tools. if you only want one drill then I get that makes the decision but I like having a compact drill that I can use for the majority of stuff, but then when I need the extra power, I turn to full size.
Thanks for the video ,I would have loved to see the 805 tested a bit more against the big boys,btw if your worried about kickback it's only on long auger bits you get kick back imo.
I have run the 805 on both the 1-1/2" and 1-5/8" bits that I ran in this video before and both can get a little dicey on each of those bits. Running them on the 800 even more so simply because there is less to hold on to.
I don’t know. I saw another video where the UA-camr was driving 6” ?? fasteners into predrilled holes with the 800 and it almost took her arm off.
Thank you for posting this video great work❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent comparison.
Thanks!
DCD1007 - “Shaken, not stirred “. 😝
I think it just about every time I say it.
@@TinkerWithTools Right? 😆👍
I love my 805 compact and powerful for its size ,but not a beast like my 999
Agreed
my 1 year old 999 chuck is failing... it's abused doing new construction. thinking of going milwaukee.
I have a comparison between this new DEWALT drill and other top hammer drills including the Milwaukee if you are interested. There are a lot of good drills out there to choose from.
Realistically none of these UA-cam reviews will address your use case. It’s not the initial performance you really care about, it’s durability and ease of warranty. From everything I’ve read, Milwaukee is the worst of the pro brands by far on the jobsite. I’d probably steer you towards Makita XGT or Metabo HPT 36V if their lineup meets your needs.
But you can also easily replace the chuck yourself for $50
@markNakib you are right that long term durability is going to be something that is difficult to show. I try to report back when I have issues with drills and so far, I have had issues with several brands so I am not so sure that there is a magic bullet when it comes to picking one that will never have problems. I have had to do warranty repairs with Milwaukee, Makita, Flex (didn't register in time but I needed to do a warranty) and I have had a chuck start to fail on a Metabo HPT. But with each of those brands I have tools that are several years old at this point with no issues.
It’s not a bad drill compare it with the other brands: Makita, Milwaukee and the other leading brands please.
I already have in a video a few weeks ago.
I am surprized Dewalt never made a 60 volt hammer drill driver. I have most of the Atomic tools in 20 volt. I have the 60 volt worm style circ. say. Can't deside with 60 volt drill to get?
I don’t know why they haven’t other than they just felt like the benefit wasn’t needed. I would be shocked if they didn’t have some prototypes kicking around somewhere though.
Unless they make huge motors, which will make the tool like an SDS drill and really uncomfortable to use one hand - there is no point. They have utilised the power of the more potent batteries, that is all they need. Higher voltage motor does not mean automatically more powerful tool. Look at Makita top tier 40V and 18V impact drivers, where they aim to make the body as small as possible - no difference in power at all.
HI im a fan from philippines. and also a dewalt user. been looking lately for some tools. just wondering if you consider giving away or selling one of your collection? 😊
You what mate? 😂
I hope DeWalt doesn’t change the batteries again so they won’t interchange? I am still trying to understand this Unit Watts Out thing? 😂
I don't see them changing the 20v Max platform any time soon. If anything the recent changes of the branding on those batteries just further supports that opinion.
Dewalt's been kicking but lately. Now they just need to steam line their damn tool lines. Cheap, Compact, XR and Power Detect.
Power detect is a thing of the past currently. The now basically have Brushed, Brushless, Atomic and XR with XR having both compact and full size.
I swear the 805 just does have the anti kickback thing
The 805 is not more powerful than the 996. Is it? Nooo. It isn't right?
The 996 is rated at roughly 820 UWO depending on where you get your numbers. The 805 is at 850. But if you find torque figures for the two drills you will see the 805 at 90nm and the 996 at 95nm through some sources. I think that starts to support what I have witnessed in testing where on lighter duty stuff up to about 1" drill bits and may 6" fasteners or so, the 805 can beat the 996 but on the higher torque tasks, I find that the 996 pushes through a little better.
@TinkerWithTools ya that's how i felt about it too.