For purposely doing the timestamps for the folks that want to skip around i am watching the full video. Thank you for including those and being real about the fact that some people like to skip around. You'll get my full watch for being real.👍
@@RiderXp I agree with above comment. Also CarBike nation copied your video word for word 1 month later. ua-cam.com/video/pAPLbE_WqbM/v-deo.html Copying is not cool, unless it's your 2nd channel. Thought u should know. God bless from Silicon Valley California
After never ending problems with Mv I bought the little Yamaha It never fails to put a smile on my face , it’s actually full of character Simple excellent engineering, after many Ducati , Guzxi, mv I’m now a Yamaha fan boy , who’d of thought it
I love the European passion for engineering and performance but just can’t ignore the peace of mind that comes with Japanese bikes. Have had Hondas, Kawasaki & just bought my first Yamaha 3 weeks ago and love it already.
Yeah i think that might've been the Honda approach too.. altough they've always been critized for being too conservative with their bikes that ends up making them least powerful in the class... and now that the CBR1kRRR is finally good.. it's way too expensive. I'm sure it's hard getting everything right.
I think there's also the price. If you think about it, most 650s make around 70-80 while prices play around 7-9k usd until the rs660 which has around 100 hp to the crank and of course there is also the tech.
@@luismariano8701 I think people might be willing to pay for the bells and whistles that the Aprilia has if they could be as certain of reliability as a Honda.
You are aware that Aprilia are famous for their engine reliability right? And they are also famous for doing a great job with totally new bike models. RSV Mille, RSV1000, RSV4 too, and especially their adventure bikes are damn near bulletproof. The only reason Yamaha doesn't increase power to the same level as the Aprilia, is because then they would have to invest into new r&d to improve the engine, and they don't want that. They want to keep printing money off of the engine they invented almost a decade ago. There is no incentive for them to increase power, when the lower cost will give them sales success anyways. Increased power will only let them hug more potential buyers from Aprilia - and Aprilia aren't going to make massive sales in the first place so why would Yamaha bother competing so harshly for so little potential return? This is just how the industry works. There are oversights with both the Aprilia and the Yamaha, but they each have their specific reasons why they exist. And reliability isn't a competing factor here. It's sad that people still believe in the old stereotypes, especially when they are addressed to a company's national stereotype, instead of just the company on its own. Every brand in the world has bad sheep, models with poor launches, bad service/customer care, etc. Sure for some companies it happens less often, but treat the specific bike model for what it is, not what your internal bias tells you to think.
Great comparison. I’m looking at both right now and I’m very much leaning towards the R7. Yamaha has the best reliability track record of any manufacturer and while I do have an Aprilia dealership nearby I’m thinking Yamaha is the way to go. The Aprilia looks better and has better electronics, but none of that is useful if it’s always at the mechanic and not on the road.
Yeah, R7 would definitely be fun and peace of mind at the same time! What bike are you riding currently... I'm just curious if R7 is more popular with first time riders or people coming from 300/400s.
@@RiderXp I’ve actually been riding a 2018 Harley Davidson Road King Special for the last 4yrs. Took a trip to Colorado to go riding with friends and while my bike was amazing for the open road portions of the trip it felt like a land yacht in the canyons. SO now I’m looking for more nimble bikes.
@@2WheelWeekendViking I'm sure you'll love the R7... the fact it's so much lighter would be such a refreshing change. I'm a bit skeptic about how comfortable it would be for longer rides though...
@@RiderXp Yeah I’m wondering that myself. It’s 1/2 the weight of my Harley lol. Other bikes I’ve been looking at are: KTM 890 R Kawasaki Z900RS Cafe Triumph Trident (for $8000 why not, right? Lol)
@@2WheelWeekendViking Among those, I love the Trident... I'm really tempted to buy one for myself. Triumph's not too bad when it comes to reliability.. riding position looks pretty good for street.. a windscreen will take care of the windblast.. You should try hopping on to those before you finalize one... best way to do it.
If Aprilia's dealer support was better this would be a no brainer. The nearest Aprilia dealer to me is 5 hours away, and I'm not willing to make that drive every time it needs service. However I'm also not willing to plop down 9K on a bike that Cycleworld just said. "it’s more relatable as an oversized YZF-R3 than a scaled-down YZF-R6."
This was a great video! I am very torn between these two bikes. I live in Canada (a large country). The nearest Aprilia dealer is very far away (approx. 12-14 hrs including a ferry ride). Yamaha is a 2 minute drive down the road from me. I have owned lots of Yamahas in the past (snowmobiles, snowblowers, motorcycles, generator). Love their products. However, the Aprilia RS 660 looks really, really nice, it makes more power, and has electronics that boggle the mind. My major concern has been upkeep. Aprilia has a mixed history. Gonna see what the reviews are like next spring before I make a decision. Could end up going back to my other option, Yamaha R6.
Thank you for the appreciation. I've felt exactly the same way about the Aprilia, but the recent recall news has added to the skepticism. Consider watching another video I made about the entire lead up to the actual recall ua-cam.com/video/H9a-g95nqkg/v-deo.html
If you are gonna only have the 1 sport bike to ride and you want it to be ready to go everytime you want to ride buy the Yamaha without a doubt. Aprils are great WHEN everything is working right but the reliability is not there. The maintenance and service will be much much more time consuming for the April. The other thing you never here about is that parts and things you nedd for the April if you want to do the work yourself can be a lot more expensive. As far as your other choices being R6 or R7, those are two different worlds all together. Im sure you would be happy with both but there is a night and day difference between the 2. I work at a powersports dealer and what i tell people when they ask (this question comes up more than you would think) is there are a lot of people that go from an R7 to an R6 but i have had no customers switch in the opposite direction if ya know what i mean. Yes, for sure there are lots of people happy with their R7 BUT i deal with a lot of people that wish they would have just bought the R6 to start with. The R6 is honestly a bike you could ride your whole life and be happy, i dont think i can say that about an R7. I know you didnt ask for it, but i have experience with all 3 and i like to see fellow bikers happy. Lol
Personally, i like better R7 looks. Sc project exhaust makes the sound better too. Aprilias advantage on electronics is irrelevant and in long run, a dissadvantage. Aprilia has better power, that makes it begginer un-friendly since R7 is barely okay for a begginer.
No one care about electronics when it comes for riding with pleasure. Electronics are just hype in shade of safety. well, a motorbike without unnecessary electronics is much more easier to afford, as well as maintain. And personally, I will defiantly like to own a bike of which i can do basic service myself( will definatly hesitate doing on when there are fragile electronic parts ). So, A clear verdict, avoid fancy electronics and ride safe. Yes Yamaha
That's one way of looking at it. People who like to hands on prefer this approach. and then there are people who just aren't very mechanically inclined, so then there's that.
I own a Tuono V4 and i prefer the electronics that comes with it. Quickshifter/autoblipper they are amazing on track. Super fun. 8 level of Tractioncontrol helps me a lot. As a beginner it keep me safe.
Here's what I would do... If you're concerned about the reliability... reach out to your local motorcycling groups and get feedback from Aprilia users about their experience with the local dealership... if that experience is generally better than the overall Aprilia perception (becasue it can be, some dealership might just be better than others).. go for the Aprilia.. otherwise... R7 is a great bike.. by the way.. have you thought about the ZX6R? I'm doing a video about how that compares to R7.. it's pretty tempting as well ;)
I'm gonna say what i've said in other comments: Modern aprilia does not have reliability issues like they did years ago. It's all internet hype from people who cant afford it. it's a shame people let that influence their decision. the rs660 is LEAGUES BETTER THAN THE R7
Hey man, very nice review. are you sure that the RS660 has reliability problems ? because I've watched many reviews videos and read review forms and a lot of people say that mordern bikes nowadays like aprilia (RS660) are now a lot more reliable, it's true that they WERE having reliability problems back then.
Let's say I'm unsure if they have managed to resolve the reliability issues based on 3 sources.. a friend who has an RSV4 and has had issues, RevZilla (Zach & Ari) both called out glitches in bikes they tested and a two Aprilia forums mentioning issues with new RS660/Tuonos. Try googling it, otherwise I'll look up links for you. I really hoped i was wrong coz i was very keen on buying myself the RS660
@@RiderXp hey so I got information about the Aprilia rs660 problems. The engine check light when it comes on its normal if there’s not any big warning message because the bike is in its first year of production and it’s just like a memory coding(or software glitches) which Aprilia has already have software updates for it. The exhaust valve only happens to some unfortunate owners, I asked a dozen of owners and all of them didn’t have no problems with the bike but they did told me that the dealers has told them that they’ve had the problems and recall for some rs660s before. Well just wanted to let you know, but anyways nice vid 👍
Nice job with all that research. So when are you getting one? I think sometimes the best way is to find out by first hand experience. It's a cool bike.. and do post feedback, maybe do an ownership review once you've had it and ridden for a while.. maybe I'll follow your lead.. Peace 🤙
Over the years I've owned 2 Aprilia's and never had a problem. I've owned many different bikes from Honda , Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki, KTM and others. Currently, I own an RS660 and is the best I've ever owned. Imho, Yamaha can never build a bike that handles and performs as good as Aprilia.
The Aprilia is definitely the superior bike! And it's good for riders who've had good experiences to come forward and talk about them. In hindsight, people usually goto forums to complain so at least that sample may have an inherent bias. Having said that, the small scale of service network is quite factual and it would be a real world practical problem for many.
@@jmr3858 si how was your experience ? Thinking about getting the 660 over the R7 considering the price are similar . I’m gonna wait another year so they can sort out the problems and recalls. But I agree 660 looks more better
Thanks! I wouldn't say it's the best beginner bike. That would be a 125-300 cc bike... There's a lot going on when you're riding a motorcycle and for someone new, it can be quite overwhelming... the power delivery of the middleweight supersports (no matter how streetable they claim to be) can be pretty overwhelming for a first time rider.
The Aprilia RS660 Had a Good Amount of Power but It has A Bad Power Delivery. If you watch Yammie Noob's Video Comparing the Aprilia RS660 and R7. You will see how R7 Pulls hard and Accelerates Faster than RS660.
I've ridden both myself. I liked the Aprilia better but I would never buy one because of it quirks. From a long term perspective, Yamaha is where it's at for me.
yhm dont take tp seriously yammie noob test he often left facts and merotorical part of equation behind door and start do and talk 💩😉👍🏻 yea r7 is steonger from 1 to 8 k rpm but if you setup on both bikes competent roder which dontmake some silly misteakes rs660 is 100 % faster bike here 👌🏻 it have 20 hp more at whell around it only need to hold its engine at higher rpm than r7 where rs 660 genersted more power and its game over for r7 😉👌🏻 6000 rpm in r7 vs 7000 rpm on rs660 and they go hesd to head once rom exceed 8000rpm rs660 start accelerate faster 👌🏻 on track you hold rs660 at statting point while take of cornerr on 8 k rpm and thers no way r7 can stay close with you 😉👌🏻 when you can offcorse use whole power at this rpm /open throtle to max wothout lost grip and crash in a tilt so from point when tilt be anough vertical offcorse anyway what ypu wrote is bull💩 but yea r7 have stronger lowend you dont need to rev it so high like rs660 but once ypu rev both to the max in theyr peak pwoer band rs660 100% beat r7 thers no other posibility 👌🏻
watch from 4 min roll race rs 660 each time left r7 in the dust 🤷🏻♂️👌🏻👉🏻 m.ua-cam.com/video/JNAdrzhmjUI/v-deo.html&pp=ygULcjcgdnNycyA2NjA%3D … power delivery 🤭 good joke 👌🏻 even despite dude on rs660 upshift slow like 💩🤭🫣 vs dude on r7 fast as 🌪️ so when dude on rs 660 will ups faster diffrences be even biger on rs660 advantage 👌🏻
The Aprilia is so beautiful and the price is worth it, but the closest two dealers are 4.5 and 5.5 hours away. I work on cars and bikes myself except for engines and sometimes transmissions, but the parts being so hard to find might be a deal breaker. We’ll see what I decide on in a few months I guess
The Area Which RS660 stands out is power and being more Premium. On the Other Hand The R7 Stands out in being perfomance Wise , reliable and Reasonable Price. when it comes to reliability the only answer yamaha wins. Because of its engine. From 2010 MT07 to 2022 R7.. So Durable..
That’s true. If you look at MotoAmerica twins cup though, the grid is full of rs660s & those are the ones winning. But for the streets, reliability & affordability go a long way in making the bike a commercial success.
@@RiderXp I guess, The Concept of The new R7 was also based on the twins cup racebike in moto america which is The FZ07R. I've seen it in norton motorsports the fz07R race bike was pretty sucessful though...
@@RiderXp i Forgot to Mention.If you watch Yammie Noob's Video In comparing Aprilia RS and Yamaha R7. You will observe how these bikes delivers its power.If youre interested go check it out
Cool. I’ve ridden both actually & liked riding both lol. I do watch Yammie, don’t particularly remember watching the r7 v rs660 though. But i guess we agree that R7 would make a lot more sense for most street riders. On twins cup grid, there are a few R7s but i can’t remember if i saw one make the podium. So it boils down to what is the buyer looking to do with the bike.
No doubt it would make me feel really good... but i wil always be concerned about the electronics failing on me.. especially with the feedback I've got from friends who own Aprilias
Your local dealer should (hopefully) be able to share the most accurate version of that information. But if I have to guess, Aprilia is already behind, so I would expect some real traction only in Q2, 2022.
The 660 looks like a 2011 RSV mille theyq havent changed the front look in a along time The 660 doesn't have compression on the front forks also you have to take the seat off and side cover to adjust the rear comp. Thw QS is clunky and the rear abs cuts in way to quick.. Yes it has tonnes of electronics... But you would only use 10% of it... The biggest disspointment is the Yamaha has no TC And 85 hp would be better You are correct about service in Australia not much. with Aprilia. I have R6 a R1 a R3 a R15 and soon a R7 Yamaha out of the box aren't great but with time and tweaking they can be awesome... The R7 will sell to newbies moving up from a 400 ninja or a R3 or older guys that love the R look that want to down grade from a R6 I want to know the top speed if the R7
Yeah, TC & 85 hp would've been nice... and there are mixed reviews about Aprilia i've been getting since posting this video.. some people have had Aprilias for years and never had an issue while others sold the bikes because it had too many. Japanese reliability and just enough power to entice riders from 300/400 to upgrade to the R7 is definitely a great strategy Yamaha has going for them. I do think that the ZX6R is also a great choice, good streetability, ample power and capable at the track!
@@RiderXp i think Yamaha needs to bring out a R9 based of the MT 09 which will fill the hole left by the R6 as going from a R7 to a R1 is light years apart
cycle world clock on dyno 89 hp at whell vs r7 66 hp …. yes r7 have more power down low on rpm feg at 5 k rpm 40 vs 35 hp + r7 have wider peak power though rs 660 still use more avg power for max accelerstionand will smoked r7 on drag strip and on truck with corners onthe same tire 👌🏻😉but yea for daily riding r7 from idlerpm to like 8 k rpm really is stronger 👍🏻
I did. I've actually made another video playing exhaust notes of the R7 & RS660 and two other bikes back to back for folks to be able to compare. You could watch that on the channel. Thanks for watching. :)
270 degree inline twin firing order actually sound the same note... Depends on what exhaust type they are using... There is various type of inline twin firing order.... The most popular one are 180degree like kawasaki ninja 650.... 90degree like husqvarna nuda and 360degree like benelli 502.... I've owned mt07 and aprilia rsv4 1100....
For purposely doing the timestamps for the folks that want to skip around i am watching the full video. Thank you for including those and being real about the fact that some people like to skip around. You'll get my full watch for being real.👍
Thanks for the positive feedback. This is what makes the effort worth it!
@@RiderXp I agree with above comment. Also CarBike nation copied your video word for word 1 month later.
ua-cam.com/video/pAPLbE_WqbM/v-deo.html
Copying is not cool, unless it's your 2nd channel. Thought u should know.
God bless from Silicon Valley California
I just got a r7 and I’m in love !
Awesome! I am seriously considering that engine in the XSR700. Its a hoot!
After never ending problems with Mv I bought the little Yamaha
It never fails to put a smile on my face , it’s actually full of character
Simple excellent engineering, after many Ducati , Guzxi, mv I’m now a Yamaha fan boy , who’d of thought it
I love the European passion for engineering and performance but just can’t ignore the peace of mind that comes with Japanese bikes. Have had Hondas, Kawasaki & just bought my first Yamaha 3 weeks ago and love it already.
R7 is good for me, it's gorgeous, smooth, fluid, light
Awesome! Do post up pictures/videos when you get one.. Cheers!
The exact reason I went for the Yamaha it’s will cost a Fortune just to maintain the April after a year of ownership
Exactly, the exact reason i dropped the idea of getting an RSV4 a couple years ago and went with a ZX6R for the track... best decision ever!
Indeed
Good review and comparison! 👍
Thanks!
Very well explained 👍
Thanks!
There’s a reason the Yamaha motor is down on hp it can make as much as the April’s if it was designed to but there goes it’s reliability
Yeah i think that might've been the Honda approach too.. altough they've always been critized for being too conservative with their bikes that ends up making them least powerful in the class... and now that the CBR1kRRR is finally good.. it's way too expensive. I'm sure it's hard getting everything right.
I think there's also the price. If you think about it, most 650s make around 70-80 while prices play around 7-9k usd until the rs660 which has around 100 hp to the crank and of course there is also the tech.
@@luismariano8701 I think people might be willing to pay for the bells and whistles that the Aprilia has if they could be as certain of reliability as a Honda.
You are aware that Aprilia are famous for their engine reliability right? And they are also famous for doing a great job with totally new bike models. RSV Mille, RSV1000, RSV4 too, and especially their adventure bikes are damn near bulletproof.
The only reason Yamaha doesn't increase power to the same level as the Aprilia, is because then they would have to invest into new r&d to improve the engine, and they don't want that. They want to keep printing money off of the engine they invented almost a decade ago. There is no incentive for them to increase power, when the lower cost will give them sales success anyways. Increased power will only let them hug more potential buyers from Aprilia - and Aprilia aren't going to make massive sales in the first place so why would Yamaha bother competing so harshly for so little potential return?
This is just how the industry works. There are oversights with both the Aprilia and the Yamaha, but they each have their specific reasons why they exist. And reliability isn't a competing factor here. It's sad that people still believe in the old stereotypes, especially when they are addressed to a company's national stereotype, instead of just the company on its own.
Every brand in the world has bad sheep, models with poor launches, bad service/customer care, etc. Sure for some companies it happens less often, but treat the specific bike model for what it is, not what your internal bias tells you to think.
This s what we want to hear. Nice vid!!
Thank you!
and what will you chose?
World class 🌏 review. KEEP GOING BUDDY💪🏻
Thanks man!
Great vide! Not sure which one to go with… I love Yamaha, but that Aprilia is sexy
Great comparison. I’m looking at both right now and I’m very much leaning towards the R7. Yamaha has the best reliability track record of any manufacturer and while I do have an Aprilia dealership nearby I’m thinking Yamaha is the way to go. The Aprilia looks better and has better electronics, but none of that is useful if it’s always at the mechanic and not on the road.
Yeah, R7 would definitely be fun and peace of mind at the same time! What bike are you riding currently... I'm just curious if R7 is more popular with first time riders or people coming from 300/400s.
@@RiderXp I’ve actually been riding a 2018 Harley Davidson Road King Special for the last 4yrs. Took a trip to Colorado to go riding with friends and while my bike was amazing for the open road portions of the trip it felt like a land yacht in the canyons. SO now I’m looking for more nimble bikes.
@@2WheelWeekendViking I'm sure you'll love the R7... the fact it's so much lighter would be such a refreshing change. I'm a bit skeptic about how comfortable it would be for longer rides though...
@@RiderXp Yeah I’m wondering that myself. It’s 1/2 the weight of my Harley lol. Other bikes I’ve been looking at are:
KTM 890 R
Kawasaki Z900RS Cafe
Triumph Trident (for $8000 why not, right? Lol)
@@2WheelWeekendViking Among those, I love the Trident... I'm really tempted to buy one for myself. Triumph's not too bad when it comes to reliability.. riding position looks pretty good for street.. a windscreen will take care of the windblast.. You should try hopping on to those before you finalize one... best way to do it.
If Aprilia's dealer support was better this would be a no brainer. The nearest Aprilia dealer to me is 5 hours away, and I'm not willing to make that drive every time it needs service. However I'm also not willing to plop down 9K on a bike that Cycleworld just said. "it’s more relatable as an oversized YZF-R3 than a scaled-down YZF-R6."
Oh man! that cycleworld comment is savage 😃
@@RiderXp They also let out that "acceleration is smooth and linear as it rips toward its 10,200-rpm redline, approaching speeds of 120 mph."
@@yzfr6i 😃
This was a great video! I am very torn between these two bikes. I live in Canada (a large country). The nearest Aprilia dealer is very far away (approx. 12-14 hrs including a ferry ride). Yamaha is a 2 minute drive down the road from me. I have owned lots of Yamahas in the past (snowmobiles, snowblowers, motorcycles, generator). Love their products. However, the Aprilia RS 660 looks really, really nice, it makes more power, and has electronics that boggle the mind. My major concern has been upkeep. Aprilia has a mixed history. Gonna see what the reviews are like next spring before I make a decision. Could end up going back to my other option, Yamaha R6.
Thank you for the appreciation. I've felt exactly the same way about the Aprilia, but the recent recall news has added to the skepticism. Consider watching another video I made about the entire lead up to the actual recall ua-cam.com/video/H9a-g95nqkg/v-deo.html
If you are gonna only have the 1 sport bike to ride and you want it to be ready to go everytime you want to ride buy the Yamaha without a doubt. Aprils are great WHEN everything is working right but the reliability is not there. The maintenance and service will be much much more time consuming for the April. The other thing you never here about is that parts and things you nedd for the April if you want to do the work yourself can be a lot more expensive. As far as your other choices being R6 or R7, those are two different worlds all together. Im sure you would be happy with both but there is a night and day difference between the 2. I work at a powersports dealer and what i tell people when they ask (this question comes up more than you would think) is there are a lot of people that go from an R7 to an R6 but i have had no customers switch in the opposite direction if ya know what i mean. Yes, for sure there are lots of people happy with their R7 BUT i deal with a lot of people that wish they would have just bought the R6 to start with. The R6 is honestly a bike you could ride your whole life and be happy, i dont think i can say that about an R7. I know you didnt ask for it, but i have experience with all 3 and i like to see fellow bikers happy. Lol
Modern aprilia does not have reliability issues like they did years ago. It's all internet hype from people who cant afford it.
loved your video, keep up the great work.
Thank you! It's a lot of work, your appreciation means and lot and keeps me going. I'm in the middle of shooting another video right now 😃
Personally, i like better R7 looks. Sc project exhaust makes the sound better too. Aprilias advantage on electronics is irrelevant and in long run, a dissadvantage. Aprilia has better power, that makes it begginer un-friendly since R7 is barely okay for a begginer.
Obviously you haven't even ridden an Aprilia to make that assumption lol, go back to sleep 😴 🤣
I rode the RS660 and concur with your take on that!
No one care about electronics when it comes for riding with pleasure. Electronics are just hype in shade of safety. well, a motorbike without unnecessary electronics is much more easier to afford, as well as maintain. And personally, I will defiantly like to own a bike of which i can do basic service myself( will definatly hesitate doing on when there are fragile electronic parts ).
So, A clear verdict, avoid fancy electronics and ride safe. Yes Yamaha
That's one way of looking at it. People who like to hands on prefer this approach. and then there are people who just aren't very mechanically inclined, so then there's that.
I own a Tuono V4 and i prefer the electronics that comes with it.
Quickshifter/autoblipper they are amazing on track. Super fun.
8 level of Tractioncontrol helps me a lot. As a beginner it keep me safe.
Everyone bashes electronics until they catch a bit of oil on the road, or some sand in the corner.
Im so torn between these 2 bikes
Here's what I would do... If you're concerned about the reliability... reach out to your local motorcycling groups and get feedback from Aprilia users about their experience with the local dealership... if that experience is generally better than the overall Aprilia perception (becasue it can be, some dealership might just be better than others).. go for the Aprilia.. otherwise... R7 is a great bike.. by the way.. have you thought about the ZX6R? I'm doing a video about how that compares to R7.. it's pretty tempting as well ;)
For me r7 is more fun to ride than the aprilia i dont know why
I'm gonna say what i've said in other comments: Modern aprilia does not have reliability issues like they did years ago. It's all internet hype from people who cant afford it. it's a shame people let that influence their decision. the rs660 is LEAGUES BETTER THAN THE R7
Hey man, very nice review. are you sure that the RS660 has reliability problems ? because I've watched many reviews videos and read review forms and a lot of people say that mordern bikes nowadays like aprilia (RS660) are now a lot more reliable, it's true that they WERE having reliability problems back then.
Let's say I'm unsure if they have managed to resolve the reliability issues based on 3 sources.. a friend who has an RSV4 and has had issues, RevZilla (Zach & Ari) both called out glitches in bikes they tested and a two Aprilia forums mentioning issues with new RS660/Tuonos. Try googling it, otherwise I'll look up links for you. I really hoped i was wrong coz i was very keen on buying myself the RS660
They already have a recall on the exhaust valves. And they were having problems with the cruise control after doing one of the software updates.
@@RiderXp hey so I got information about the Aprilia rs660 problems. The engine check light when it comes on its normal if there’s not any big warning message because the bike is in its first year of production and it’s just like a memory coding(or software glitches) which Aprilia has already have software updates for it. The exhaust valve only happens to some unfortunate owners, I asked a dozen of owners and all of them didn’t have no problems with the bike but they did told me that the dealers has told them that they’ve had the problems and recall for some rs660s before. Well just wanted to let you know, but anyways nice vid 👍
Nice job with all that research. So when are you getting one? I think sometimes the best way is to find out by first hand experience. It's a cool bike.. and do post feedback, maybe do an ownership review once you've had it and ridden for a while.. maybe I'll follow your lead.. Peace 🤙
In Sweden the Aprilia rs 660 has to change engine, the warranty covers it but anyway. I think the factory released the bike a bit to fast.
👍🏻Thumbs-up from India 🇮🇳
Thanks 👍
Instead of these two, just buy used a gsxr 750 which will smoke both of these
I will take the R7 all day for street or twin cup track.
Cool... You could post videos when you do get it... it's a pretty sought after bike now 👍
Over the years I've owned 2 Aprilia's and never had a problem. I've owned many different bikes from Honda , Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki, KTM and others. Currently, I own an RS660 and is the best I've ever owned. Imho, Yamaha can never build a bike that handles and performs as good as Aprilia.
The Aprilia is definitely the superior bike! And it's good for riders who've had good experiences to come forward and talk about them. In hindsight, people usually goto forums to complain so at least that sample may have an inherent bias. Having said that, the small scale of service network is quite factual and it would be a real world practical problem for many.
@@THEREALBELLÚ I've owned both, have you?
@@jmr3858 si how was your experience ? Thinking about getting the 660 over the R7 considering the price are similar . I’m gonna wait another year so they can sort out the problems and recalls. But I agree 660 looks more better
Ah a bullshiter, everyone knows Yamaha R6 makes mince meat of Aprilia.
@@durim187 lol do u even ride? 😄
Cool video. Well explained…do you think the R7 it would be a great beginner bike ? Thnx.
Thanks! I wouldn't say it's the best beginner bike. That would be a 125-300 cc bike... There's a lot going on when you're riding a motorcycle and for someone new, it can be quite overwhelming... the power delivery of the middleweight supersports (no matter how streetable they claim to be) can be pretty overwhelming for a first time rider.
The Aprilia RS660 Had a Good Amount of Power but It has A Bad Power Delivery. If you watch Yammie Noob's Video Comparing the Aprilia RS660 and R7. You will see how R7 Pulls hard and Accelerates Faster than RS660.
I've ridden both myself. I liked the Aprilia better but I would never buy one because of it quirks. From a long term perspective, Yamaha is where it's at for me.
yhm dont take tp seriously yammie noob test he often left facts and merotorical part of equation behind door and start do and talk 💩😉👍🏻 yea r7 is steonger from 1 to 8 k rpm but if you setup on both bikes competent roder which dontmake some silly misteakes rs660 is 100 % faster bike here 👌🏻 it have 20 hp more at whell around it only need to hold its engine at higher rpm than r7 where rs 660 genersted more power and its game over for r7 😉👌🏻 6000 rpm in r7 vs 7000 rpm on rs660 and they go hesd to head once rom exceed 8000rpm rs660 start accelerate faster 👌🏻 on track you hold rs660 at statting point while take of cornerr on 8 k rpm and thers no way r7 can stay close with you 😉👌🏻 when you can offcorse use whole power at this rpm /open throtle to max wothout lost grip and crash in a tilt so from point when tilt be anough vertical offcorse anyway what ypu wrote is bull💩 but yea r7 have stronger lowend you dont need to rev it so high like rs660 but once ypu rev both to the max in theyr peak pwoer band rs660 100% beat r7 thers no other posibility 👌🏻
watch from 4 min roll race rs 660 each time left r7 in the dust 🤷🏻♂️👌🏻👉🏻 m.ua-cam.com/video/JNAdrzhmjUI/v-deo.html&pp=ygULcjcgdnNycyA2NjA%3D … power delivery 🤭 good joke 👌🏻 even despite dude on rs660 upshift slow like 💩🤭🫣 vs dude on r7 fast as 🌪️ so when dude on rs 660 will ups faster diffrences be even biger on rs660 advantage 👌🏻
NIce video
Thank you 😊
The Aprilia is so beautiful and the price is worth it, but the closest two dealers are 4.5 and 5.5 hours away. I work on cars and bikes myself except for engines and sometimes transmissions, but the parts being so hard to find might be a deal breaker. We’ll see what I decide on in a few months I guess
The parts situation might be different in different areas so I'd definitely encourage you to get more feedback from the local Aprilia riders 👍
Nice... keep going
Thanks 👍
The Area Which RS660 stands out is power and being more Premium. On the Other Hand The R7 Stands out in being perfomance Wise , reliable and Reasonable Price. when it comes to reliability the only answer yamaha wins. Because of its engine. From 2010 MT07 to 2022 R7.. So Durable..
That’s true. If you look at MotoAmerica twins cup though, the grid is full of rs660s & those are the ones winning. But for the streets, reliability & affordability go a long way in making the bike a commercial success.
@@RiderXp I guess, The Concept of The new R7 was also based on the twins cup racebike in moto america which is The FZ07R. I've seen it in norton motorsports the fz07R race bike was pretty sucessful though...
@@RiderXp i Forgot to Mention.If you watch Yammie Noob's Video In comparing Aprilia RS and Yamaha R7. You will observe how these bikes delivers its power.If youre interested go check it out
Cool. I’ve ridden both actually & liked riding both lol. I do watch Yammie, don’t particularly remember watching the r7 v rs660 though. But i guess we agree that R7 would make a lot more sense for most street riders. On twins cup grid, there are a few R7s but i can’t remember if i saw one make the podium. So it boils down to what is the buyer looking to do with the bike.
YZF R7. Has the style and liability
Absolutely. It's the easier choice.
forget the specs - think about how it makes you feel. Italian beauty vs. just another Yamaha... Easy choice..
No doubt it would make me feel really good... but i wil always be concerned about the electronics failing on me.. especially with the feedback I've got from friends who own Aprilias
@@RiderXp totally with ya
Anyone have a good guess as to when they will likely release 2022 models in USA? If I order one for next Spring, it might as well be the latest gen.
Your local dealer should (hopefully) be able to share the most accurate version of that information. But if I have to guess, Aprilia is already behind, so I would expect some real traction only in Q2, 2022.
Looks - Aprilia
Performance - Yama
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They both look good, Aprilia has better colors
You meant, looks Aprilia, performance Aprilia, price Yamaha.
not really bro rs 660 100hp
R7 73.4hp
Zx6r is discontinued from India 🇮🇳😔
Really? Oh that sucks man!
The 660 looks like a 2011 RSV mille theyq havent changed the front look in a along time
The 660 doesn't have compression on the front forks also you have to take the seat off and side cover to adjust the rear comp.
Thw QS is clunky and the rear abs cuts in way to quick..
Yes it has tonnes of electronics...
But you would only use 10% of it...
The biggest disspointment is the Yamaha has no TC
And 85 hp would be better
You are correct about service in Australia not much.
with Aprilia.
I have R6 a R1 a R3 a R15 and soon a R7
Yamaha out of the box aren't great but with time and tweaking they can be awesome...
The R7 will sell to newbies moving up from a 400 ninja or a R3 or older guys that love the R look that want to down grade from a R6
I want to know the top speed if the R7
Yeah, TC & 85 hp would've been nice... and there are mixed reviews about Aprilia i've been getting since posting this video.. some people have had Aprilias for years and never had an issue while others sold the bikes because it had too many. Japanese reliability and just enough power to entice riders from 300/400 to upgrade to the R7 is definitely a great strategy Yamaha has going for them. I do think that the ZX6R is also a great choice, good streetability, ample power and capable at the track!
@@RiderXp i think Yamaha needs to bring out a R9 based of the MT 09 which will fill the hole left by the R6 as going from a R7 to a R1 is light years apart
@@RTK171 Agreed!
hmmm don't know man but i more like Rs 660... maybe just wait Ninja 700R😶
Guys tell me which one is better?
The Aprilia horsepower to the rear is 84 and u need to wring the shit out of it Yamaha rear wheel hp is 74 and power comes on @ 3500 rpm soo
Plus i think the gearing might be different too, didn't check that bit
cycle world clock on dyno 89 hp at whell vs r7 66 hp …. yes r7 have more power down low on rpm feg at 5 k rpm 40 vs 35 hp + r7 have wider peak power though rs 660 still use more avg power for max accelerstionand will smoked r7 on drag strip and on truck with corners onthe same tire 👌🏻😉but yea for daily riding r7 from idlerpm to like 8 k rpm really is stronger 👍🏻
What service issues?
Scarce service/workshop network. limited parts availability etc. etc.
Yamaha
They were sound the same... 270 degree crankshaft... Do some research bro.....
I did. I've actually made another video playing exhaust notes of the R7 & RS660 and two other bikes back to back for folks to be able to compare. You could watch that on the channel. Thanks for watching. :)
270 degree inline twin firing order actually sound the same note... Depends on what exhaust type they are using... There is various type of inline twin firing order.... The most popular one are 180degree like kawasaki ninja 650.... 90degree like husqvarna nuda and 360degree like benelli 502.... I've owned mt07 and aprilia rsv4 1100....
I see. Well thanks for educating me! Feedback taken... more research next time. Thank you for taking the time to watch and give useful feedback mate!
Alright my brother... Cheers...