Old Composer REACTS to MESHUGGAH - Born in Dissonance | Composer POV
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2020
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My cousin is the bassist ❤️😎 Dick Lövgren
Tell your cousin that I love him, please x
You have the coolest cousin
@@gibsoadstudios648 yeah, it’s in our 🧬😂😎🇸🇪
What a beast congrats
Tell him "Thank you for being so nice and welcoming towards my son and myself." I thought since it would be his first concert Meshuggah should be it
This song, and the entire album, were recorded live... it melts my brain just thinking about it honestly!
Didn't know that, definitely mind blowing!
No it wasn't. Their process to writing and recording this album was different than previous and more organic. On earlier albums, all the parts were written for each instrument then recorded and pieced together. This album had more input from all members and they came together and fleshed it all out together. They weren't performed live.
Yes it was.
@@mattbecker743 I've watched the documentary, it was recorded live.
@@mattbecker743 ua-cam.com/video/HrfYPXXLko4/v-deo.html
He talks about it at around a minute in.
Due to the rhythmic nature of the band, perhaps watching a drum playthrough would be most appropriate. Thomas Haake is an god damn machine
They're so, so much more than their genius drums. Incredible all time classic band.
Your bit about the 4/4 divining rod is exactly the thing that makes Meshuggah special! Listen to the rest of their catalogue and feel that 4/4 beat the whole time
What’s even better is when you learn to hear it all in cut-time (one-and-two-and). Nothing (the album) is the clinic on that listening technique. And once you hear it all THAT way, the Meshuggah oldies come to life in a different way.
DANCERS TO A DISCORDANT SYSTEM PLEASEEEEEEEE
Yes yes yes pls
My absolute favorite song from them
ua-cam.com/video/R3OeZma5jTE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Meshuggah-Topic
Heeeeelll yes!!
Yeah, one of their most essential musts
You will love all of Meshuggah’s discography. They have been doing this since 1987
They were so ahead of their time. I would’ve lost my damn mind if I saw them in the 90’s
@@gibsoadstudios648 They're still ahead of their time, lol. Even non metal heads are starting to get Meshuggah.
I've heard people say early 'Shuggah was "too Metallica ish" or some crap. Listening to Contradictions Collapse, you can hear the influence but Meshuggah was SOOO much better than Metallica, and not at all "copying" or whatever. I think it was just the superficial tones that sounded similar aside from the obvious influence Metallica played on pretty much ALL metal ever to come after them.
They are soooooo amazing. I love them since i was 13 man
@@ElectromagneDikk so, a couple of years? 😘
You'll be absolutely blown away by clockworks, by meshuggah as well! Really glad you reacted to this
Clockworks Drum Playthrough so you can actually see how amazing Haake is.
This!!
Pay attention to the tic tic tic of the high hat in the beginning. Resembles a clock, just amazing!
"In Life is Death/In Death is Death"
is still my favourite of theirs
that's the one with 33 seconds long scream
@@lopolik I think that is either Dehumanization. or SUM
@@panchoperfulcro8708 either way it's one of the songs on Catch 33.
@@lopolik That whole record is beyond belief
@@panchoperfulcro8708 yeah it is my favorite album from them.. that 33 sec long scream was incredible.
Tries to headbang to Meshuggah: dies
Almost! :)
Don't want to be "that guy" but with Meshuggah you can generally headbang with the main cymbal/hi-hat hit.
There are a couple exceptions like the intro to Pravus etc but even that has steady driving 8th notes on the kick to orient yourself.
@@jamesd7786 LOL yep! It's crazy how much of this music is actually in 4/4...
@@cheesebone82 you're not wrong, but I wouldn't call it right either. Meshuggah does A LOT of polymeters, and almost all have a 4/4 as the backbone - but the riffs and sections aren't based on the 4/4 meter.
More like transcends!
This whole alum was recorded as a full band "live" type thing. All the members are playing together as its recorded.
Pretty sure its not all the way through the album. Also i think some of Jens' parts have been clipped in. Along with solos, perhaps. I might be all wrong, as im not certain on all this, but i think its correct ;)
@@THERAMMSTEINFAN490 I think all the main rhythmic parts sound like they were recorded in a live room. I'm sure things like guitar leads and vocals were overdubbed.
Yeah, the harmonies and leads and vocals are recorded separately. But rhythm guitar, some leads, bass, and drums are all recording simultaneously in the studio. I think the guitarists are in different sound booths but the drummer and bassist are in the same room together. If you listen carefully there's a few mistakes they left in but you can't even notice since the energy is all there.
MESHUGGAH!! Ohhhh Yes! The mother of complex time signatures and insane rhythms. Please do "Clockworks" or "Bleed" next. The drum cams on both songs are absolutely gold
Clockworks is a work of art.
Meshuggah are playing in 4/4 all the time.
lol what? They literally play every song in 4/4 with no polyrhythms in any song ever. Just b/c they are djent godfathers and chuggy doesn't mean its complex time sigs. they are essentially groovecore.
@@gnarxy Trump is also a genius, right?
Corona is fake, global warming a hoax.
The World is so fed up with the inbred that understands nothing. So fed up😠
@@mattiasjansson733 While it's not surprising that Meshuggah's impressive musicianship and compositional skills would catch the ear of academics, the band themselves - none of whom had traditional musical training - took pains to demystify the perceived complexity of their music. "There is definitely more to our music than 4/4," Haake explained to the Miami New Times in 2008. "But the main thing is the 4/4 feel. For us, that's a very important aspect to it. It helps us in giving the music a certain amount of flow. You can actually - at least on a good night - get into a groove. If you want to translate it into being, 'here's this number of bars in 23/16 and this last part turns into 30 16th notes and starts over,' that's not how we perceive our music. It's just a matter of that last one flowing in an odd number over the 4/4 beat. Therefore, the 4/4 that we write and play around is the most important aspect. I usually play eighth notes on the hi-hat all the time, so everyone in the band can headbang."
Everybody's gonna steer you to Bleed, but I'm telling you now, listen to its album's title track, Obzen. That and Dancers to a Discordant System. Okay, now, the whole Obzen album. Finally, Catch 33 in one sitting, and you're golden.
Don't forget Chaosphere! :D
The bit in Obzen with the breakdown riff -> drum fill -> hardest riff ever -> insane extended fill. Makes me want to run through a wall every time.
@@jamesd7786 Chaosphere is screaming for attention, pitiful that not so many people know about their old albums. "Corridor of Chameleons", "The mouth licking what you've bled" and especially "SANE". Their best album in my opinion. That "I" Ep and "Nothing" (the original, not the remixed!) fighting for the next place.
@@darwinism14 Insane vocals on Sane!
I love me some Ivory Tower from the last album...Fuckin' monster!
Combustion, Bleed and Obzen are that album’s holy trinity for me. I love every second of them.
DANCERS TO A DISCORDANT SYSTEM PLEASE!!!! I've been begging reaction channels for years to do this song and nobody has done it. Would be SUPER fun having a composer review it. Chock full of super insane polyrhythms, polymeters and time signatures. Meshuggah's Magnum Opus. The godfather's of the genre itself.
So much yes
Def one of my favourite Meshuggah tracks
Remember Thordendal, when he plays live improvises into an alien chaotic chromatism solo
And please the album version
@@caosybrujeria6620 nah the ophidien trek version i better imo
Bleed is the natural next choice. But my personal favourite is Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion.
Amen brother!
I completely agree - one of my all time favorites!
Same. Or New Millennium Cyanide Christ
Man Marrow and Electric Red are so underrated
As an older metal head myself it warms my barbwire heart to see you gettin down to this.
Meshuggah Clockworks
The metal community has sensed fresh blood! Really enjoy your open, honest reactions. Your value for non-judgement and universal appreciation is refreshing! React to anything by Car Bomb to have your head proper spun. :D
If you are completely insane do "I" next. You'll understand.
I love I
Yes. Meshuggah is unique within "metal"...and 'I' is unique within Meshuggah
PS - many reaction video makers tend to waffle and say a lot without saying much, so this is refreshing to listen to someone who knows what they're talking about!
"I" is 20 something minutes of pure beautiful chaos
if he is even more insane he will do Catch 33
I heard a joke once, that three people at a Meshuggah concert could all be head banging at separate tempos yet still match the song.
The huge riff after the guitar solo is my EVER favourite metal moment, period. And they're playing it only twice, grrrrr.
You need to do TesseracT! I recommend doing a video on their vocalist, Daniel Tompkins. He has a bunch of live vocal videos of him singing through TesseracT songs
I like how he doesn’t say shit for like a whole minute
There is that classically trained composer, who tried to transcript one of theirs albums. Check out him on youtube.
channel name?
@@TheHellRanger ua-cam.com/video/V3ECIJGeGO0/v-deo.html
I watched that video on your recommendation. And it's fantastic! That guy is really something else.
Straws. Pulled. At. Random. is one of their greatest tracks, especially that outro. What a ride!
Meshuggah! Please react to their song "Straw Pulled At Random". The second half is amazing and gets melodic towards the end with the solo.
great song (which mix of NOTHING do you prefer? I gotta say I still love the original)
You get it my dude. Guide to meshuggah: listen to the snare and cymbals, feel that 4/4, groove out to the odd time signatures from bass drum and guitar! SUBBED
I'd be interested to hear your takes on Devon Townsend Project, "Deadhead". Live at Royal Albert Hall is fantastic.
Bleed or future breed machine next!
Campfire version? 🤟🏻😎🤟🏻
Haven't you seen enough Bleed reactions? lol
@@supermot34 Sort of, I think it would be fun to see him react to it tho.
@@TheOfficialMylo Of course, it's just that everyone always reacts to Bleed, while Meshuggah has dozens of sweet songs to choose from, that's all :)
You can never have enough bleed reactions! Lol
We need a Sleep Token reaction! All sorts of textures and layers going on with a bit of good old fashion mystery!!
Fuck yes man! Doing a track that gets no love from reaction channels. We need more than just bleed and clockworks
Great reaction.
MESHUGGAH!
Obzen
Clockworks
Swarm
The hurt that finds you first
Man what a monster of a band especially live they're in the studio we will be getting a new album in 2021
This band have inspired Justin Chancellor's parts in The Pot and Rosetta Stoned.
And Adam's riffs on Jambi.
I would love for you to do Mastodon's Oblivion
Or the Czar
do the complete song not the short edit!
That whole album is golden.
Or hearts alive would be sick
"Drunkship of Lanterns" by The Mars Volta. Amazing combination of songwriting and technical musicians, topped with Rick Rubin as producer! (Flea is on the bass also)
Keep up the wonderful work, it's great to hear someone with your knowledge explain things to us music enthusiasts.
You should really check out the band Car Bomb, they mess with time and tempo unlike any other band I've heard. Great video
This band man, this band... And no one talks about how good the lyrics are.
This is what I have been using to convert my friends! This vid not only has the lyrics, but it also dislplays the theme of the song quite well. The lyrics are what completely put them over another bands, as if they hadn't already done that by the Music alone hehe. Completely underrated.
EDIT: this below,is the "THIS" from the original comment - ua-cam.com/video/fhVv8-6-Cd0/v-deo.html
@@panchoperfulcro8708 Word
Facts, honestly some of their best songs are made 100 times more awesome by great lyrics. Dancers, Do Not Look Down, Perpetual Black Second, this one, Lethargica... Oof, just what a band, honestly
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic Lethargica is lovecraftian material, so good, so fucking goooooooood.
@@panchoperfulcro8708 100% agreed. Funnily enough, there's times in my study hall at school that I'll read Lovecraft while listening to Meshuggah. The rotation is normally Meshuggah, Morbid Angel, Revocation, Humanity's Last Breath, and sometimes some others, and it really causes a certain vibe hahah
I really liked this until the date for the album popped up and I realized it’s been four years since we’ve had a new Meshuggah album.
Facts, but apparently they're releasing a new one next year. If I remember correctly, Nuclear Blast announced it a little while ago. Either that or they were headed to the studio or something. Hyped either way! 🤘
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic will Fredrik be rejoining the band or is he permanently retired now?
@@richardharrold9736 Wait, did he leave at some point? It wouldn't really be Meshuggah without him, so I hope so
@@richardharrold9736 My bad, I forgot Per was touring with them a few years ago. I tried looking around for info, but I can't seem to find much. I'd presume that they wouldn't record without him, apparently he was working on a solo album last year, so maybe he's done now
Thank you for seeing these guys for what they are. Spectacular!! Their first album was in the late 1980’s. The genre they created is called Djent. Pronounced Jent.
As said before, MESHUGGAH is literally tailored for bobbing your head along principal 4/4 and along that having the listener feel something truly beautiful happening all around one's perception of time with such delicate choice of notes to build up the atmosphere 💙💚💛💜
I’d love to see you react to an Imperial Triumphant song. Preferably anything off of “Alphaville”. Avant Garde Jazz Black Metal 🤘🏻
Sounds interesting I'll check it out
Cool! Meshuggah is one of my favorite bands. If you like this track you should definitely check out Meshuggah's 2nd and 3rd LPs, Destroy Erase Improve and Chaosphere. Their 1994 EP None is worth checking out as well.
Meshuggah single-handedly opened my tastes to harsher vocals almost overnight. Their command of syncopation and groove is almost unmatched, very forward thinking band that have carved out their own niche. Devin Townsend - "We all rip off Meshuggah"
glad you listened to meshuggah! most of their songs are in 4/4, but the rhythms underlying that 4 can be very, very intricate. most of the patterns resolve naturally to 4, but in some they add or subtract from the pattern to resolve. the snare is usually always 2 & 4, which means the drummer has to internalize all of the rhythms with the kick (usually) against the straight 2 & 4 - it's absolutely amazing. listeners who don't know much about polyrhythms etc. might only hear the basic 2 & 4 and think the song is straightforward. but learning the patterns underneath everything makes it insanely more complex. i love the vocals being longer phrases juxtaposed with the shorter syncopated patterns.
a song i think that easily shows this concept is Do Not Look Down. you can take the intro as a basic odd time thing. but then that odd time is played under the 4/4 when the song kicks in and you'd have to learn how that pattern "morphs" around within the 4. it's amazing writing. it's a shame some people can't get over the vocals, but i think it's such an integral part of the music as a whole. as you said, powerful. i love meshuggah!
Funny thing about Meshuggah is before you figure out what they're doing rhythmically, and the song feels like odd time, you don't feel a groove at all; then once it clicks and you figure it out, you hear the groove and it just feels massive.
So relieving that this isn't a reaction to Bleed
This is kind of a headbanger. If you want something more interesting from them, "Nostrum" is an incredibly unique metal track with a lot of nuance, while still being technically impressive.
Yesssssssss MESHUGGAH!!!!!!!!! Let’s watch a composers mind melt.
I remember when these guys came out. You really had to be someone listening closely to get it. Killer video man!
LAMB OF GOD -engage the fear machine
if you listen to any other Meshuggah song, listen to Bleed.
And if you do, please check out the drumcam version of “Bleed”.
@@rmr5044 You speak the truth! All of your alternatives are superior.
How original...
@@rmr5044 so what? it's an incredible song that is a must listen.
@@matthewbehr5725 ha ha... yep, what we all need is another Bleed reaction to add to the other 5 million.
This video was great because Born In Dissonance is not Bleed. Ha. Imagine your first introduction to Meshuggah NOT being Bleed! It's a veritable miracle!
Hey ! If you liked this band, I HIGHLY advise you (and I can't stress this enough) to go give an ear to Car Bomb.
It is a math core band heavily inspired by Meshuggah, in a more bizarre, innovative and disconstructed way than the later. Scattered Sprite would be my go-to if you want something really... well, I have no words, really go check them. If you want to have some fun go listen to The Sentinel, they made almost the entire song in the same pattern but with different notes and time signature, it would be surely interesting for you anyway.
xenogardien I’ll second this. Car Bomb is the next evolution of what Meshuggah started IMO, maybe hybridized with a little Dillinger and Deftones. Interestingly as many Djent bands that sprung up after Meshuggah got big, Car Bomb is the only band that gives me that “Meshuggah feeling”, no other way to describe it. It’s also even stranger just given that Car Bomb do NOT play in common time generally and Meshuggah almost always do, so structurally their music is really quite different.
I remember seeing them I think in 2017. My only show ever (until they come next year. It's confirmed! Special London show they said!). I didn't know them much at all. But when I went and heard it. Omfg. I was up front too. I always feel I have to be up front, front row if possible. I love the energy. They blew me away, to say the least. I couldn't explain to myself why I loved it. I'm not even into this heavy music much. I'm slowly starting but the heaviest I heard before was Mastodon or Slipknot I guess. But this here? Wow. The grooves, the syncopation (didn't know this word before) and all while staying in 4/4 technically. It's amazing. Meshuggah have easily become one of my top 5 favorite bands ever. And the more I go back now, I love it even more. I take my time with music. I'm now with Chaosphere and Destroy Erase Improve.
Fascinating! Great format
I appreciate the reaction and breakdown. You seriously should look into Car Bomb. The song Dissect Yourself is a great place to start.. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on this artist?
Please please please share your analysis of an Opeth track! "The Drapery Falls" is my recommendation.
I'd have preferred Moonlapse Vertigo myself, but gotta love some early Opeth....
Their "Born in Dissonance (Live @ Graspop, Belgium 2018)
" video is even better - it has awesome visual component
Man, I love how well you explain all of this, and put into words how I feel.
Tesseract..
anything off Koloss, to be honest. That album is a masterpiece and IMO possibly the greatest metal album ever written.
Man check out “Clockworks” by Messuggah. Also this song is even more awesome when you listen to the lyrics, and the music. It’s pretty heavy subject matter as well, gives me chills.
His face says it all while listening....MESHUGGAH !
The Meshuggah song I'd like to see you review most would be "I".
No one is ready for that
Just listening to it takes you on an out-of-body Astral tour.
Grandmaster Tomas Haake on the drums!
Gotta checkout "Bleed", or "Dancers to discordant System", or "Demiurge", or "New Millenium Cyanide Christ", or "Clockworks" or... you get it :'D
it's all pure heaven
This was such an entertaining dissection of the track, I loved watching you grit your teeth and jam to it, your energy is contagious man!!!
Stumbled across your channel for the first time listening to/watching this. Great video!
Man love your reactions and insights, you need to react to Sepultura Dead Embryonic Cells, pretty sure you will love it cause is fucking 🔥
Gotta do Opeth & Gojira now.
Opeth-Bleak. Great song with really interesting composition. Anything by Opeth honestly is really interesting.
So glad I found your channel. Really enjoy your honest reactions and technical expertise. I'd love to hear your take on Unleash the Archers - Awakening. A lot for a composer to tease apart. You rock!
a bit out of the left-field, but would be interesting to have you react to DOOM ost by Mick Gordon. in this track there was a part that reminded me of it, maybe Mick took some cues
The guitar tone is also similar, and thats becouse the style of meshuggah kind of founded a sub genre called Djent or some weird shit like that, wich is basically overabuse of palm mute. And for some reason the mayority of metal producers who want to have a heavy punchy palm mute use basically the same guitar tone.
Mick is mates with Thordendal. They collaborated on Wolfenstein soundtrack. So definitely inspired haha
You should give Igorrr a try. Maybe the song Downgrade Desert.
Igorrr is dnb and band fusion. He wont really Know whats drummachine or drummer
@@deadhead2983 neither do i.
I enjoy watching people react to Meshuggah more than I enjoy listening to them
Great explanation! why I love their ambiance just impressive almost other worldly 🙌🏼🔥
One thing to note about Meshuggah is that the drummer never strays from that divining rod of tempo. In virtually every single song there's gonna be a cymbal or something in the background that you can nod your head to through the entire song.
React to Mr Bungle, anything off California
I love it keep up the great work of checking out new music much love from Australia ✊🤟
growing the channel nicely... well done, great content.
Brother, please react to ”TesseracT - Of Mind: Exile”. Super groovy progressive track. I would love to see you counting to that track :’D
Recommend: "Relentless Mutation" by Archspire
Human Murmuration as well would be one to check out.
an insightful reaction of meshuggah?? never thought of it. love your channel!
Really awesome breakdown and reaction
Throwing out Mick Gordon - BFG Division as something you should check out. \m/
Yay! Meshuggah! The founding fathers of Djent. I highly recommend checking out their other songs:
Bleed
Rational Gaze
Future Breed Machine
Clockworks
OR, if you want to try something REALLY OUT THERE, try their 21 minute track "I".
Keep up the great reactions!
One of the best reactions. Love your view as a composer. Subscribed brother.
Love checking in on your daily videos. Keep up the great work and branching out into the music outside of your wheelhouse.
Request - anything The Mars Volta
While i find meshuggah's sound to get a bit dull after a while, no other band has managed to even come close to repeating it, so when your in the mood for meshuggah, nothing else will do
Like sushi their is no substitute but when you are done, you're done.
4:20 Exactly! Thats the beauty of many of their songs. Check out Clockworks too. Cheers
Thanks Geebz ! Listening to Meshuggah 24/7 now thanks to your videos 🤘😆
wow you really got into it when it started playing, great video
yo man gotta say, just noticed ya started back up the youtube career..man im lovin your perspective, lots of joy pouring out in your reactions and its very inspiring to watch and hear the stuff you caught that I missed! cheers! new sub!
Bleed is like the essential Meshuggah Track for people that are starting listening
I love picking apart music like you do, I play a lot of guitar and that's why I love metal because its complexity and unique riffage, and virtually every band is different
Hey Sir you’re Diving into a lot of stuff I love DT TOOL N MORE KEEP UP YOUVE TAUGHT ME a Lot already about some things
Loved it! Though im not a consistent listener of Meshuggah, i really enjoy listening to people digest the songs for me so that i get a more nuanced image of the songs.
You must check out Dancers in a Discordant System. As a composer that is a fantastic Meshuggah song to analyze and listen to! Love the content!
You are amazing. Please do more vídeos of Meshuggah. Just right now i watch 8 vídeos of your análisis and Awesome. Keep do it please. Blessings lml
One interesting thing about this band is that they are collaborative composers. The vocalist often writes drum parts and the drummer writes all the lyrics, they write the vocal rhythms together after the structure of rest of the song is more or less set. Each song may start from a different origin point, like a drum track or a guitar riff, etc. and they’ll then either program drums or guitars in Qbase (yeah they still use qbase) and build the song digitally before they go off and learn and refine it. Half the time the drummer is learning drum tracks that were written by someone else in the band or the guitarists are learning guitars that were programmed by the drummer or vocalist. They’re truly a hive mind mentality in terms of working together to achieve a high quality composition and output, they then each specialize as players who play those roles in a recording and live capacity.
I enjoyed this!
I love this reaction you done a great job with this meshuggah is a lot to take in but you broke it down nicely lyrics and music 👍
It's interesting how you mentioned that that section made you envision a giant monster rising from underground. It seems like Meshuggah really tries to convey that sense in a lot of their more recent stuff. Just an immense powerful force crushing all in its path. They even have titles like "I Am Colossus" and "Monstrocity" (sic)
Animals as leaders - CAFO
Amazingly skilled musicians. Instrumental music gets me going and seeing you react to this song, or and other AAL, song would make my day.