Possibly a false positive but can't say that with 100% certainty. Windows generally doesn't like keygens/workarounds but they have been known to be malicious. There may be something on the forum about it but I haven't gone through the whole thread myself.
Works a treat. I ended up using an old 32gb SATA SSD instead of a usb stick to boot clover. Didn't want little hands taking my usb stick away! Works perfectly on a Lenovo Thinkstation P500.
@@JimSmith-ro8zc I was able to do it by cloning the clover usb onto a regular 2.5" ssd and setting the motherboard to boot from that ssd. Your mileage may vary though since computers are effing weird and also when I posted this video, Macrium Reflect had a free version, it seems now they have a Free Trial Version.
This really helped me. My mom has an ancient machine, and I thought I'd refresh one of my not-so-bad old machines. Asus M5A97 with FX-8350 @ 8 core, 16 thread, 4.0GHz, w/ 32GB RAM. This machine is totally below the required specs for Win11, but way better than a lot of new machines. CPU's too old. There is no TPM. But it definitely exceeds their minimums of 2 core 1GHz 64-bit, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage. I figured I'd swap out the old SATA drives for a new WD Blue 1TB NVMe. What's the worst that could happen? Oh, can't boot. BDU took care of it. It's actually working a lot faster than it did with Win7/8. I had run a SATA SSD in it for a while, but that was barely faster. I think I was hitting the SATA III limits. The NVMe via PCIe x4 is a lot faster. Totally worth the upgrade. This should last her for a few more decades. :) The only big change in my process was that I set up the USB drive on my main computer. I didn't want to spin up the old disks. That worked fine, as long as they copy the NVMe files.
Cool glad it helped! Check the pinned comment and description for caveats. Also the 8350 is still plenty for basic use, especially if you can get a preferred Linux distro on it without issue. I would add that there are "lite" versions of windows out there if you want to make it snappier. TechYesCity and a few others have videos on the process. Here's the TechYes link ua-cam.com/video/AmGk-AAo3EQ/v-deo.html which includes a link to the torrent file for the ISO he made. I would look through the video as there may be some things you want to keep and customize your own ISO.
@@syntehk I wanted her on a stock Windows install, so it wouldn't be too different, and online tutorials would be right. I have another almost just like it, as my home firewall. I just pulled most of the memory out and left it with an antique hard drive. As part of my Unix/Linux sysadmin work, I built firewalls for the datacenters with old servers. They can all do full line speed, so I don't really need much more than that. I use Slackware on those, and most of the servers I've built. I love recycling old gear into overpowered tools. It's easy, since I have the skills. This one was a little odd, since I hadn't needed to run a boot loader off something other than the boot drive, since like the 1980s or 1990s. I did have floppies doing basically the same thing occasionally. :) Before I found your video, I was going to just put a SATA drive to hold the boot loader. Your way is much cleaner.
Thank you so much guy by your sharing. I can confirm that I was able to run W10 in a Crucial NVMe (PCIe 3.0) installed via an adapter card in my old Desktop HP Pavillion P6-2003es (MB PCIe 2.0) slot PCIe x16. The MB Bios does not support NVMe and only with Clover in USB, the final process was success.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you. An absolutely life saving video for me trying to load windows off my NVME SSD at midnight from X1 Carbon 3rd gen which doesn't support NVME boot. I'd give this video a platinum award if i could lol. Thanks!!!
The software kept failing to format a thumbdrive. I even tried an internal SATA SSD. It didn't matter how the drive was formatted or its capacity. The error message said something about a missing ISO file. So I Googled that file name and somebody was actually hosting the file, so I downloaded it and used Rufus to create a bootable USB drive and it worked like a charm!
Interesting and thanks for the info, it may help someone else. That clover website does seem a lil sus. I'm planning on trying it again to see if it still works with the hardware I've tried it on and with other hardware I haven't. Clover is available on github too but I haven't gone that route. There's also another similar tool called Duet but haven't tried it myself.
thank you very much. really appreciate your help and easy way of explaining and most of all the way on how to creat the USB itself. god bless you. reporting success on my Dell T3600.
i've tried everything to get this custom boot loader manager program to work but it stays stuck on a black screen with a blinking courser for every item i try to boot any items from it
Thanks for this tutorial :-) It should work on a sd-card if the bios supports booting from it I suppose? Some workstation and server motherboards do have it directly on the board. I will try this out on an old machine someday.
I got this to work about a year ago to boot TrueNAS on an ancient Supermicro mini-itx Atom D510 board with a PCI-E nvme SSD adapter, however once it hits the Clover Boot screen it just sits there waiting for input forever. It's not a huge deal I just have to select the drive and it boots. But in order to autoboot I think I have to figure out what the UUID is for the PCIE nvme drive and set it as default in config.plist, I didn't notice an entry for a default one, the timeout is already set to 5 seconds.
Hah! Great video, still working on it. It boots up into a text mode interface and stuck there but still reading and following the win-raid instructions.
I have and old mobo (socket 1366) and i am trying to install windows 10 in expansion card with NVME M2 2TB. I received message that : "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure That the disk controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu." Can i bypass this using clover ?
Check the forum. Their instructions include doing it the way you describe : getting clover installed and using clover to get Windows installed onto the nvme if I'm not mistaken. I find it strange that you can't install Windows because I was able to install it (without clover, but not boot it), but any little thing can make all the difference when it comes to computers.
I was able to install Windows regularly the first time I tried this (before this vid). And on this vid I just cloned my windows installation using macrium reflect.
I have a problem with my hp z600. I have followed all steps but my menu is white and there is nothing to press. Please do you know what it is? It also displays a 6 when booting. Thanks
No idea sorry. I know this reply is late but I've been pretty busy. If you haven't resolved your issue yet you might find help in the forum for the tutorial linked in the description.
What if you don't want to use NVMe as a Windows OS drive? What to do if you just want to add an M.2 as a drive to install games/programs on but the BIOS doesn't support NVMe?
What you're asking worked for me a handful of times and I haven't seen it fail but that doesn't mean it would work for every single system. If I had to guess I would think it less likely to work if it's the very first gen(s) of pcie motherboard.
Thank you very much! I currently have Windows 11 installed on my Dell T3600 on the slow SATA SSD. Can I clone this to the nvme or clone Windows 11 from another newer machine?
Could be a number of issues. Read the video description and if you don't find the solution there I would advise reading through the forum and posting your issue if it hasn't already been brought up.
Formatted my USB with BDU & Clover is installed there by default, I copied the NvmeExpressDxe.efi to Clover/Bios & Clover/UEFI, And i create drivers32uefi & drivers64uefi copied NvmeExpressDxe.efi and pasted in both of these folder, restarted my pc selected boot from USB its showing blank black screen, Clover is not loading
Hmm. Who knows. Check the forum thread or comments here for similar issues. Also there's another similar tool called Duet, there's a couple how to vids on other channels.
I'm having the same issue. Did you ever find a solution? My MoBo is NOT EFI compatible. Video shows this being used on a EFI compatible computer. I have yet to find one of a non-EFI (BIOS) computer.
some people say if i try boot into nvme on a old motherboard that has no m.2 slot and use clover the usb with clover should never be removed so i can boot into nvme how can i still boot into my nvme drive without a usb always in my usb port?
With this method you can't. But as mentioned in the video you might be able to do what you're asking by using Macrium Reflect to clone the USB clover drive onto a regular sata ssd and set the motherboard to boot from there instead. YMMV
I need help. I'm trying to format my pendrive (IT IS GPT) but there is an error "Not Found standard Clover archive distribution file: Clover-NNN-X64.iso.7z". What I need to do?
Weird. Not really sure. I would try redownloading the file, reformatting the drive, moving the usb stick to another port or even using another drive. I'm not an expert on this, you might get better help on the forum linked in the description.
download minitool partition delete all partions then initialize gpt. then right create new partition called clover it choose next available drive letter automatically
Make sure you made the USB stick on the h61 and not on a different system. Check bios and disable CSM if the option is there (must boot uefi method if mobo supports it). That's all I can really think of. Check the forum, may find your answer there or someone more knowledgeable may chime in.
I DONT HAVE UEFI, HOW IS IT AN OLD MOTHERBOARD WHEN ITS UEFI. sorry, all the ones ive seen keeps saving UEFI when i have a legacy bios. I managed to get to the fake looking bios tab of clover buti cant change anything and nothing shows up. I can change the language but everything else is blank
OLD is relative; in this case old just means no built in support. I don't have a legacy board to try this out with. I'd say search/ask on the linked forum.
@@syntehk Thanks but unfortunately I've searched everywhere and the conclusion is it's impossible to do without a BIOS mod. You can't use a NVME boot drive on old legacy bios motherboards.
@@Aston3003 Dang sorry to hear that and it's good to know. Been wanting to grab a legacy board to try it myself for a while. Did you by any chance try both GTP and MBR partition type on the drive?
@@syntehk I tried both MBR and GPT. GPT does not boot and MBR boots into the clover Legacy Bios UI. I didn't get the Mac looking bios UI. I got stuck in the process of trying to get clover to run properly. I tried changing the mod/features and trying the one from the main site. But in the end I stood in defeat, Clover does not work and I'm stuck on sata 2.
Sorry to hear that. Might wanna go through or ask on the forum, it's more detailed. There's another utility called Duet that works similarly, there should be a few how to videos on this platform.
I don't know. Highly unlikely with this method since it uses a .exe to make the boot usb. Might be possible to create the drive in windows and then just have it boot into linux but that's not something I have tried. There also might be a linux version for clover but it's not something I've looked into.
i all ready install nvme ssd to my old mobo (HP 9800-LGA 779) i have device problem after settle win 10 PRO, the sound from PC don't came out. PCI Simple can't update and my solution use USB sound adapter to get sound. You have any idea bro?
If it worked with Win 10 before then idk, if I didn't then might have to hunt drivers down manually or do it through windows update > other drivers?. Or could be something else completely, not really sure sorry.
If I remember correctly, I simply used Macrium to clone from the old drive to the new. There was a hiccup where using "shutdown /p" in the console seemed to fix it. But the first time, I was able to install windows with the installer on the same motherboard, I just wasn't able to boot into it until I did the clover thing.
Hi. I have ordered SN570 Nvme SSD & Pi Plus nvme adaptor. My mother board is Gigabyte H87m D3H. My Pciex16is empty rite now. Can you pls suggest if i will be able to install windows in this? Pls help
Does not work on Asus Z87-A. I follow all step. Everything look good untill I select on NVME drive it wont boot to window. only dark screen with blinking cursor. Do u know y?
I do not know why. For me I didn't have to pick since it defaulted to the right choice. The forum linked in the description has much more info and may be of help.
It worked now. Maybe be due to my old window is on MBR. After I re-make USB window bootable to UEFI and reinstall window, all work like ur video. Thank
Is there any second method to do this.? Current setup MB: h97-d3h Processor: Intel i5 4440 Nvme: wd sn570 Pcie x16 Gen 3 port: engaged with pcie nvme adapter. BIOS: F5 didn't update till now
I followed this video and for some reason when it boots into clover it says boot windows 10 from legacy hd2 even tho i installed windows onto that m.2 using a acer nitro 5 that only supports uefi i couldn't install legacy anything on this laptop if i tried 😂 Ofc i now if i use windows on a diffrent drive i could change the drive to mbr make a small partition and put the windows 10 installer in that. But that isnt the point lol How do i make it boot in uefi Before u ask i already disabled legacy boot
You can try fresh install, but I think with this method you may need to run clover off drive natively supported. However, after making this video I grabbed clover off of github (by way of another YT vid) and I was able to use the same USB clover drive for a different machine.
As far as I can discern you wouldn't need clover to boot from a standard sata m.2 since it is essentially a sata drive in a different form factor. But it may depend on your motherboard so I really don't know. I once tried a mini sata to sata adapter and the motherboard didn't see the drive; maybe a bad adapter? Maybe a bad mini sata port? I never figured it out. Sorry to say but you won't really know unless you try. It's up to you whether or not the risk of failure is worth it.
Hi bro , Im from mexico and I stay treat installing the NVME in a dell optiplex 390 you believe . do you think it works? the processor is a core i3 2128. Same i have a dell optiplex 7010 thank you for la information for this model. the same way i treat with optiplex 390, optiplex 3020 and optipex 7040.
For me it automatically chose windows. It has to go through clover no matter what but you can reduce the time clover is displayed before it goes into windows as mentioned in the vid
This method will require clover boot no matter what. However I just tested cloning the usb stick to the old ssd and it worked. I used Macrium Reflect for cloning the stick to the old ssd. If you look over on the win raid forum there's also a guide on how to inject the motherboard bios with nvme support so that it picks it up automatically instead of having to boot into clover first. I haven't tried this method myself, If I ever do I will post a vid on it.
Addressed in a previous pinned comment. Furthermore the guide is now hosted on level1techs and although they didn't create the guide, they are a reputable name. Always proceed with caution. I think you can find clover from another source as well, and there's another boot tool which works similarly but I forget the name.
A video like this one should be for everyone, not just for geek people. A pace too fast, too many tech words not known by many people, please democratize your videos, don't do it for a minority of people.
You can slow the playback speed on youtube if the pace is too fast. If there's a word you don't understand you can google it. If you want a more in depth explanation then the guide I used to create this video is posted in the description
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Possibly a false positive but can't say that with 100% certainty. Windows generally doesn't like keygens/workarounds but they have been known to be malicious. There may be something on the forum about it but I haven't gone through the whole thread myself.
False flag, allow on device
Works a treat. I ended up using an old 32gb SATA SSD instead of a usb stick to boot clover. Didn't want little hands taking my usb stick away! Works perfectly on a Lenovo Thinkstation P500.
can you post details? this is the best idea yet
Lol especially if it's shiny red usb stick like I've used. Your comment and mentioning that it worked on a Lenovo P500 is much appreciated.
@@JimSmith-ro8zc I was able to do it by cloning the clover usb onto a regular 2.5" ssd and setting the motherboard to boot from that ssd. Your mileage may vary though since computers are effing weird and also when I posted this video, Macrium Reflect had a free version, it seems now they have a Free Trial Version.
This really helped me. My mom has an ancient machine, and I thought I'd refresh one of my not-so-bad old machines. Asus M5A97 with FX-8350 @ 8 core, 16 thread, 4.0GHz, w/ 32GB RAM.
This machine is totally below the required specs for Win11, but way better than a lot of new machines. CPU's too old. There is no TPM. But it definitely exceeds their minimums of 2 core 1GHz 64-bit, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage.
I figured I'd swap out the old SATA drives for a new WD Blue 1TB NVMe. What's the worst that could happen? Oh, can't boot.
BDU took care of it. It's actually working a lot faster than it did with Win7/8. I had run a SATA SSD in it for a while, but that was barely faster. I think I was hitting the SATA III limits. The NVMe via PCIe x4 is a lot faster. Totally worth the upgrade. This should last her for a few more decades. :)
The only big change in my process was that I set up the USB drive on my main computer. I didn't want to spin up the old disks. That worked fine, as long as they copy the NVMe files.
Cool glad it helped! Check the pinned comment and description for caveats. Also the 8350 is still plenty for basic use, especially if you can get a preferred Linux distro on it without issue. I would add that there are "lite" versions of windows out there if you want to make it snappier. TechYesCity and a few others have videos on the process. Here's the TechYes link ua-cam.com/video/AmGk-AAo3EQ/v-deo.html which includes a link to the torrent file for the ISO he made. I would look through the video as there may be some things you want to keep and customize your own ISO.
@@syntehk I wanted her on a stock Windows install, so it wouldn't be too different, and online tutorials would be right.
I have another almost just like it, as my home firewall. I just pulled most of the memory out and left it with an antique hard drive. As part of my Unix/Linux sysadmin work, I built firewalls for the datacenters with old servers. They can all do full line speed, so I don't really need much more than that. I use Slackware on those, and most of the servers I've built. I love recycling old gear into overpowered tools. It's easy, since I have the skills.
This one was a little odd, since I hadn't needed to run a boot loader off something other than the boot drive, since like the 1980s or 1990s. I did have floppies doing basically the same thing occasionally. :) Before I found your video, I was going to just put a SATA drive to hold the boot loader. Your way is much cleaner.
Outstanding! Clear, concise and I appreciate the help!
Got there in the end. Found the video helpful in getting to understand the instructions. Thanks.
Awesome, glad it helped. What hardware did you use it on btw? It could be helpful to others as it seems there have been mixed results.
Finally it's working, I've been looking for a solution all day to no avail until I found this video that solved the problem.
thank you .
Cool cool
Thank you so much guy by your sharing. I can confirm that I was able to run W10 in a Crucial NVMe (PCIe 3.0) installed via an adapter card in my old Desktop HP Pavillion P6-2003es (MB PCIe 2.0) slot PCIe x16. The MB Bios does not support NVMe and only with Clover in USB, the final process was success.
Awesome, posting your hardware is appreciated since it seems others have been unlucky with this method.
Thanks for the update. Really appreciate your time putting this together. Very useful.
Cool glad it helped.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you. An absolutely life saving video for me trying to load windows off my NVME SSD at midnight from X1 Carbon 3rd gen which doesn't support NVME boot. I'd give this video a platinum award if i could lol. Thanks!!!
Sweet! Thanks glad it worked. I know this is kind of a late reply but I've been kinda busy :p
In a world of "experts" saying, "You can't do that", the homie said,
"Watch this".
I appreciate the video.
Worked the first time. Very simple instructions. Thanks !!!
Cool glad it helped. Check the pinned comment and description for caveat added after making the video.
Simple tutorial with a lot of information. Thank you so much💌
Sweet!
thanks alote, i got it the way of boot delay option
for best choice just change it to "0" . perfect!
The software kept failing to format a thumbdrive. I even tried an internal SATA SSD. It didn't matter how the drive was formatted or its capacity. The error message said something about a missing ISO file. So I Googled that file name and somebody was actually hosting the file, so I downloaded it and used Rufus to create a bootable USB drive and it worked like a charm!
Interesting and thanks for the info, it may help someone else. That clover website does seem a lil sus. I'm planning on trying it again to see if it still works with the hardware I've tried it on and with other hardware I haven't. Clover is available on github too but I haven't gone that route. There's also another similar tool called Duet but haven't tried it myself.
Is it possible to get the file that worked and the method, thanks
hi,, my pc starts only from the us clover, how to create boot without usb? i cant open windows without usb
@@ToniLixSim The problem has been resolved and the installation has been completed successfully
Thank You!!!!! Worked I had to use the older Clover 4988 because it locked at loading boot64.efi
NICE... SIMPLE AND FAST... DID THE JOB. THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
Cool happy it helped! Check the pinned comment and video description for potential issue( s).
thank you very much. really appreciate your help and easy way of explaining and most of all the way on how to creat the USB itself. god bless you. reporting success on my Dell T3600.
Glad it helped!
Brilliant, very, very helpful!!!
Thanks!
It worked perfectly 👍❤️
Thanks 100% working. God bless you :)
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Awesome bro, you have saved my nvme adapter....
Sweet
i've tried everything to get this custom boot loader manager program to work but it stays stuck on a black screen with a blinking courser for every item i try to boot any items from it
Sorry to hear that, you might find a solution over on the forum linked in the description.
Thanks for this tutorial :-) It should work on a sd-card if the bios supports booting from it I suppose? Some workstation and server motherboards do have it directly on the board. I will try this out on an old machine someday.
I would assume it works if the bios supports booting from SD
I got this to work about a year ago to boot TrueNAS on an ancient Supermicro mini-itx Atom D510 board with a PCI-E nvme SSD adapter, however once it hits the Clover Boot screen it just sits there waiting for input forever. It's not a huge deal I just have to select the drive and it boots. But in order to autoboot I think I have to figure out what the UUID is for the PCIE nvme drive and set it as default in config.plist, I didn't notice an entry for a default one, the timeout is already set to 5 seconds.
I'm trying to do this now but it's not even seeing the usb drive as something it can boot to, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Why you does not put it boot fil to hdd to booting from Hdd first after read nvme without flash drive
Not in the video but I did that off camera. I used Macrium Reflect to clone the usb onto 2.5" ssd, results may vary.
Hey great video! Do you happen to be from Albuquerque? Sounds familiar.
Thanks. Nope. I'm on the West Coast closer to the beach than Albuquerque.
Hah! Great video, still working on it. It boots up into a text mode interface and stuck there but still reading and following the win-raid instructions.
nice tutorial, thank u
Sweet!
I have and old mobo (socket 1366) and i am trying to install windows 10 in expansion card with NVME M2 2TB. I received message that :
"Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure That the disk controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu."
Can i bypass this using clover ?
Check the forum. Their instructions include doing it the way you describe : getting clover installed and using clover to get Windows installed onto the nvme if I'm not mistaken.
I find it strange that you can't install Windows because I was able to install it (without clover, but not boot it), but any little thing can make all the difference when it comes to computers.
I was able to install Windows regularly the first time I tried this (before this vid). And on this vid I just cloned my windows installation using macrium reflect.
@@syntehk i install it , but you can not use as a boot drive because mobo is not uefi
I have a problem with my hp z600. I have followed all steps but my menu is white and there is nothing to press. Please do you know what it is? It also displays a 6 when booting. Thanks
No idea sorry. I know this reply is late but I've been pretty busy. If you haven't resolved your issue yet you might find help in the forum for the tutorial linked in the description.
after doing this wiil nvme boot without usb with clover on it?
What if you don't want to use NVMe as a Windows OS drive? What to do if you just want to add an M.2 as a drive to install games/programs on but the BIOS doesn't support NVMe?
What you're asking worked for me a handful of times and I haven't seen it fail but that doesn't mean it would work for every single system. If I had to guess I would think it less likely to work if it's the very first gen(s) of pcie motherboard.
Try it with xfx 790i ultra sli! That would be usfull!❤
Thank you very much! I currently have Windows 11 installed on my Dell T3600 on the slow SATA SSD. Can I clone this to the nvme or clone Windows 11 from another newer machine?
Only one way to find out, try it. I would say put the slow SSD into the machine you intend to do this on, and then run clover on it and clone it.
The boot disk utility isn't working for me. If I attempt to format I just get an error message.
you need to use a linux distro. boot it up. use gparted to remove any partition on the usb drive.
Could be a number of issues. Read the video description and if you don't find the solution there I would advise reading through the forum and posting your issue if it hasn't already been brought up.
Is there a way to move the USB boot disk with clover to a SATA SSD and make the SATA SSD the clover boot loader?
I was able to with Macrium Reflect, your results may vary.
USB pendrive must always be inserted?
Yes, unless you are able to successfully clone the pendrive to a hard drive that your mobo supports. I was able to, it's in the video description.
Formatted my USB with BDU & Clover is installed there by default, I copied the NvmeExpressDxe.efi to Clover/Bios & Clover/UEFI, And i create drivers32uefi & drivers64uefi copied NvmeExpressDxe.efi and pasted in both of these folder, restarted my pc selected boot from USB its showing blank black screen, Clover is not loading
Hmm. Who knows. Check the forum thread or comments here for similar issues. Also there's another similar tool called Duet, there's a couple how to vids on other channels.
I'm having the same issue. Did you ever find a solution? My MoBo is NOT EFI compatible. Video shows this being used on a EFI compatible computer. I have yet to find one of a non-EFI (BIOS) computer.
some people say if i try boot into nvme on a old motherboard that has no m.2 slot and use clover the usb with clover should never be removed so i can boot into nvme how can i still boot into my nvme drive without a usb always in my usb port?
With this method you can't. But as mentioned in the video you might be able to do what you're asking by using Macrium Reflect to clone the USB clover drive onto a regular sata ssd and set the motherboard to boot from there instead. YMMV
@@syntehk is editing the bips to allow nvme booting an option?
I need help. I'm trying to format my pendrive (IT IS GPT) but there is an error "Not Found standard Clover archive distribution file: Clover-NNN-X64.iso.7z".
What I need to do?
Weird. Not really sure. I would try redownloading the file, reformatting the drive, moving the usb stick to another port or even using another drive. I'm not an expert on this, you might get better help on the forum linked in the description.
download minitool partition delete all partions then initialize gpt. then right create new partition called clover it choose next available drive letter automatically
clover interface doesn't showup on asus h61 but booting on other devices it boots fine. help!
Make sure you made the USB stick on the h61 and not on a different system.
Check bios and disable CSM if the option is there (must boot uefi method if mobo supports it).
That's all I can really think of.
Check the forum, may find your answer there or someone more knowledgeable may chime in.
@@syntehk It didnt help. Same thing stuck on black screen with cursor on it.
I DONT HAVE UEFI, HOW IS IT AN OLD MOTHERBOARD WHEN ITS UEFI. sorry, all the ones ive seen keeps saving UEFI when i have a legacy bios. I managed to get to the fake looking bios tab of clover buti cant change anything and nothing shows up. I can change the language but everything else is blank
OLD is relative; in this case old just means no built in support.
I don't have a legacy board to try this out with.
I'd say search/ask on the linked forum.
@@syntehk Thanks but unfortunately I've searched everywhere and the conclusion is it's impossible to do without a BIOS mod. You can't use a NVME boot drive on old legacy bios motherboards.
@@Aston3003 Dang sorry to hear that and it's good to know. Been wanting to grab a legacy board to try it myself for a while. Did you by any chance try both GTP and MBR partition type on the drive?
@@syntehk I tried both MBR and GPT. GPT does not boot and MBR boots into the clover Legacy Bios UI. I didn't get the Mac looking bios UI. I got stuck in the process of trying to get clover to run properly. I tried changing the mod/features and trying the one from the main site.
But in the end I stood in defeat, Clover does not work and I'm stuck on sata 2.
Getting error "unsupported while loading Bootmgfw.efi"
Sorry to hear that. Might wanna go through or ask on the forum, it's more detailed. There's another utility called Duet that works similarly, there should be a few how to videos on this platform.
very useful information, I do not have Windows..., can this be done in linux machine (create usb stick with clover bootloader)?
I don't know. Highly unlikely with this method since it uses a .exe to make the boot usb. Might be possible to create the drive in windows and then just have it boot into linux but that's not something I have tried. There also might be a linux version for clover but it's not something I've looked into.
Is the whole boot process off the USB or does the USB just initialize and the nvme take over boot?
I believe it's the latter, check the winraid guide to confirm.
i all ready install nvme ssd to my old mobo (HP 9800-LGA 779) i have device problem after settle win 10 PRO, the sound from PC don't came out. PCI Simple can't update and my solution use USB sound adapter to get sound. You have any idea bro?
If it worked with Win 10 before then idk, if I didn't then might have to hunt drivers down manually or do it through windows update > other drivers?. Or could be something else completely, not really sure sorry.
Wow I'm not sure why but I chose the clover boot utility and every time i try to format the gpt disk it fails, or turns into something I can't open.
Nevermind, I fixed it eventually.
@@anon123214 Hi, how you fixed that?
How did you get Windows 10 to install on your NVME? Mine sees the drive but doesn’t want to write files and do setup.
If I remember correctly, I simply used Macrium to clone from the old drive to the new. There was a hiccup where using "shutdown /p" in the console seemed to fix it. But the first time, I was able to install windows with the installer on the same motherboard, I just wasn't able to boot into it until I did the clover thing.
Hi. I have ordered SN570 Nvme SSD & Pi Plus nvme adaptor. My mother board is Gigabyte H87m D3H. My Pciex16is empty rite now. Can you pls suggest if i will be able to install windows in this? Pls help
I would think so
Free for you guys, I can help u modding bios for windows bootable. Dont through by clover, too risk not secure
Does not work on Asus Z87-A. I follow all step. Everything look good untill I select on NVME drive it wont boot to window. only dark screen with blinking cursor.
Do u know y?
I do not know why. For me I didn't have to pick since it defaulted to the right choice. The forum linked in the description has much more info and may be of help.
It worked now. Maybe be due to my old window is on MBR. After I re-make USB window bootable to UEFI and reinstall window, all work like ur video. Thank
@@kheavmady8780 Oh very nice. Thank you for the update, it might help someone else.
Is there any second method to do this.? Current setup
MB: h97-d3h
Processor: Intel i5 4440
Nvme: wd sn570
Pcie x16 Gen 3 port: engaged with pcie nvme adapter.
BIOS: F5 didn't update till now
There's another tool similar to this on the forum but I forgot what it's called, you might be able to search and find it there.
I followed this video and for some reason when it boots into clover it says boot windows 10 from legacy hd2 even tho i installed windows onto that m.2 using a acer nitro 5 that only supports uefi i couldn't install legacy anything on this laptop if i tried 😂
Ofc i now if i use windows on a diffrent drive i could change the drive to mbr make a small partition and put the windows 10 installer in that. But that isnt the point lol
How do i make it boot in uefi
Before u ask i already disabled legacy boot
Bro acer nitro already has nvme support
what if u dont have old windows installation
You can try fresh install, but I think with this method you may need to run clover off drive natively supported.
However, after making this video I grabbed clover off of github (by way of another YT vid) and I was able to use the same USB clover drive for a different machine.
It's working thank you so much sir.
Can you please Make video same clover 🍀 but boot from HDD don't want to keep always plugged USB
Try Macrium Reflect to clone the USB to a standard hdd/sdd. Worked for me but can't guarantee it will for everyone.
@@syntehk ok I will try & thank you so much for response 😍
can it work to non nvme m2 ssd only?
As far as I can discern you wouldn't need clover to boot from a standard sata m.2 since it is essentially a sata drive in a different form factor. But it may depend on your motherboard so I really don't know.
I once tried a mini sata to sata adapter and the motherboard didn't see the drive; maybe a bad adapter? Maybe a bad mini sata port? I never figured it out. Sorry to say but you won't really know unless you try. It's up to you whether or not the risk of failure is worth it.
Hi bro , Im from mexico and I stay treat installing the NVME in a dell optiplex 390 you believe . do you think it works? the processor is a core i3 2128.
Same i have a dell optiplex 7010 thank you for la information for this model. the same way i treat with optiplex 390, optiplex 3020 and optipex 7040.
Pues yo creo que si por que el 390 es similar que el Dell 7010 y para mi me sirvio con un 7010.
@@syntehk Confirmo funciona en una Optiplex 3010, 3020, 7010, 7040 y 390
@@allancanales2867 Sweet!
Clover need for UEFI
Can still do that if the pc is uefi not supported
Haven't tried it myself but it looks like yes.
Can the selection method be automated, just to boot right to the windows?
For me it automatically chose windows. It has to go through clover no matter what but you can reduce the time clover is displayed before it goes into windows as mentioned in the vid
@@syntehk I tried this is working for now. Looking to try any other methods that would work too.
How to make it permanent so that it won't always require usb to boot
This method will require clover boot no matter what. However I just tested cloning the usb stick to the old ssd and it worked. I used Macrium Reflect for cloning the stick to the old ssd.
If you look over on the win raid forum there's also a guide on how to inject the motherboard bios with nvme support so that it picks it up automatically instead of having to boot into clover first. I haven't tried this method myself, If I ever do I will post a vid on it.
Someone posted a procedure to insert an nvme driver into the bios of Dell optiplex, which makes it permanent.
does the nvme ssd need to be gpt or mbr
Any works but gpt is better
boot utility download is a virus :/
Addressed in a previous pinned comment. Furthermore the guide is now hosted on level1techs and although they didn't create the guide, they are a reputable name. Always proceed with caution. I think you can find clover from another source as well, and there's another boot tool which works similarly but I forget the name.
Its working fine but everytime I boot the uefi pendrive gets more options or like it multiplys.
Oh that's not good. No idea but asking on the forum might get a solution
@@syntehk no worry now it is working fine after reinstalling it on empty hard disk
A video like this one should be for everyone, not just for geek people. A pace too fast, too many tech words not known by many people, please democratize your videos, don't do it for a minority of people.
You can slow the playback speed on youtube if the pace is too fast. If there's a word you don't understand you can google it. If you want a more in depth explanation then the guide I used to create this video is posted in the description