I think a big thing of note here is that you're not actually trying to land these hits. It's easy for your opponent to walk forward and grab you when they know theres no danger. Because you're not trying to land them with power they're being thrown and recovered pretty slowly giving them more opportunity to react and grab. I'd like to see what happens when full speed attacks are thrown. Legitimately impressed by his sweeps though. He applied it well and made me rethink my views on Aikido. Definitely an interesting video though and kudos to those practitioners. This was a good video thank you for making it!
Thank you for loading the video. I think the two styles were so vastly different. Your style was tournament (point) karate. With the kicks, snap punches, no contact with the head or knees. Your opponent’s style was aikido where he would receive your attack and counter by blocking and pushing you away. Comparing and contrasting the two your opponents was more suited to street self defence, as point karate is not for the street
@@gpon893 hello..... a question...have u ever gotten a pt karate punch to the head or gut at full speed and power without padding..... or a front kick or roundhouse kick to the head at full force or speed... there is no difference... in this case between sport or street.... a sport car or street car knocks u a 100mph..which will u survive?..
You could same the same if the aikidoka was not holding back on hard throws or finishing with pins or locks. Guillame is good at both aikido and daito-ryu.
@@trinidadraj152 Yes and no. Grabbing kicks and punches are a lot harder if the other guy is actually hitting you in the face. And yes, unless you have boxed a lot, you will get hit.
Kinda hard to compare the two martial arts like this when there’s such an immense difference in size. In order to gain any leverage at all, you’d have to be going for the K.O.
Yes man, like, an karate fighter can not do your punchs and kicks, without a K.O. Even if its an just a demonstration, when you kick someone without the hit, if you opponent its not a striker, its easy to grab us.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Although there's no question that the techniques are legitimate, it's way easier to catch the kick when you have a weight advantage along with a reach that makes it hard to close distance. Overreaching against someone who likes gripping, hand trapping or grappling is dangerous, and being a foot taller makes it hard not to overreach. That being said, I was very happy to see that in his second exchange he worked much harder to create an angle and attack from a stronger position, but I think the point karate has given the bad habit of not recovering properly from failed kicks. 2:47 made me cringe, as the kick was easily blocked and disrupted his balance for an easy back take.
@@sway71 so, in my karate shotokan, we always kick without let the leg in front of you. Just when we are doing "kihon". Sorry for my poor english! I am an Brazilian lol
@@sway71 yes, especially in kumite, because you can suffer an counterattack if you leg push foward. I do not know If you understand me lol. I will search a video
Tatsuya Naka would obliterate him if it was an actual sparring session. No offense to Yusuke, but there are black belt fighters and then there are BLACK BELT FIGHTERS and Naka is the latter. Aikido does have some things that are worth integrating, but we've all seen the videos of aikidoka sparring non-aikidoka and getting destroyed. By the way, most of the stuff that the aikido guy did I've seen it done in shotokan, shito-ryu, tang soo do and other styles already. A big issue that I saw in this video (and that others have also pointed out) was that both were basically just going through the motions. Both should have gone harder. I'm not saying go full out K1 or Glory, but actually try and make contact with a decent amount of force. We've all heard the famous Mike Tyson quote: "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" or Carlson Gracie: "Punch a jiu-jitsu black belt in the face, he becomes a brown belt. Punch him again a purple, etc." If the title is going to say "Karate vs ..." Its really gotta be a "vs" situation. This was more of a demo type thing I'd say.
It's obvious that your opponent had several advantages over you. He had a large size advantage, experience sparring a pure striker with a limited rule set, and had very good technique. The only way I could fight someone like him was to consider it a self-defense scenario. Meaning. no gloves, very low leg attacks, and targeting vital areas such as the eyes, nose, throat and groin. Your movement is very good, so if it was a real fight, you could easily get away and leave the area :-)
Guillaume Erard has more an Aïkido style than real Aikijujutsu. Anyway this fight is not relevent, no guard at all, huge size and weight differences, it would have been nice to see the Karateka going full speed and strength, it would have been totally different in the outcome. But it was still very interesting. Thank you for the video
Not that I want anyone hurt. But it's easy to throw an opponent that does not deal damage. If he can take your punch and counter you were at a strong disadvantage. I'd like to see protective gear and full contact sparring. That being said, a great demo of aiki techniques against a non complying opponent for a change.
Dear Yusuke I understand that "Karate Dojo waKu" is a commercial project and nothing more, but in this video you did nothing and looked like the beginner. Did you degrade your skils intentionally or you are really the beginner??? :)
It is obvious that we were not going full speed, and we are just trying out some parts of karate and aiki jujutsu. Whether you see me as a beginner or not is your choice! Haha Merry Christmas to you!
As either real fights or full contact competition goes neither would last long. The karate style fighter will get knocked out on a regular basis because his hands are down and the other guy is even more likely to get knocked out for the same reason and because he isn’t using any offensive attacks. At least the Karate style fighter has a chance to land a knockout.
Take it from the youngest of three boys. When the opponent is that much bigger then you, there's no sense in targeting the head and even the body. Your punches and kicks are just too accessable. If he puts his hands on the musubime of his obi, you have to reach up and really extend and he will get there first every time. The distance from the floor to his chest and groin might as well be the distance to the sun. You should be looking him in the eye but targeting their knees, ankles and toes. *Doren o hikaru* Break a toe and the spirit drains out
Thank you for your video. Have been waiting for this vdo for a long time. I practice aikido and never practice karate. My question might sound stupid but why karate move is so very linear?
Well the karate guy is trying to get the IPPON while the aj guy is trying to apply his techniques .not even close to a real fight.But both are very respectful martial arts with a big amount of history and heritage
Much respect for doing this. I feel he had confidence to walk through punches and kicks knowing you were holding back. its always difficult because a grappler can go 100% and have a lower chance of injuring partner as opposed to a striker who if he goes 100% the consequences to training partner are higher. Also would have liked to see more combinations in those punches and kicks. One off kicks in particular were too easy for him to pick. When I spar i adjust to how i know my opponents like to fight. if its a grappler im very conservative with the kicks as in if theyre too flashy they close the distance very fast which is what they want. my stance is a lot more squarer as well to defend take down attempts and movement is more kiba dach side to side think tekki shodan to take away the single leg take down attempts. Great video. more like this please. osu!
i totally get what you say, its not really "100%" tho... like... if you did a jujigatame with your 100% you could break the other guys arm... however... if you have enough experience, you can actually go as hard as needed just to win without having to break someones arm... and for throws, yeah, most of them you can go 100% and the mat+ the oponents ukemi does the job for you... at least that was my experience when i did shotokan, bjj, sanda, soo bahk do and bujinkan... throws you can go all out... jointlocks, you dont need to go all out but you can go hard enough to control the oponent without accidentally breaking something in most cases... however, my experience with striking in most of those arts is that light contact/pointstyle fighters can go as fast as full contact fighters and stop the strike before it causes any damage... but knowing the strike will not hurt makes it easy to go through them... but the consecuences of hard sparring and or sparring harder than light contact(like... strike full contact to body protected by one of those sanda style chest protectors but light contact to the head) can make the fight even(even if it will not hurt you badly, getting a knee strike to the chest when wearing one of those makes you want to stay away from knees) i like your strategy tho.. my strategy is usually to be in a side stance when they are far enough for me to kick and in a "sumo stance" if they get to close... from there i either box or grapple...
@@DisegnoSb As I see most strikers vs grapplers the usual plan is to hit hard legs to reduce mobility and go in for the kill when suitable. Basically chipping away mobility till proper moment. It isvery hard to spar properly with such different styles but I feel a lot of traditional martial arts are heavily lacking ANY sparring. This has been widely acknowledged now and it is heartwarming to see the humbleness of TMA trying to cover for this weaknesses.
@@Ilethsamael yeah, if your only tool is striking, then thats the best strategy, i have a bit of striking and a bit of grappling... however, i have my weaknesses in both... in striking, my kicks are my best tool, once we get to punching distance, i can manage to do some damage and avoid getting hit, but my chances of knocking my oponent out are basically 0(my kicks are my only tool for knock outs) and in grappling, im kinda good at avoid getting thrown, kinda good at throwing, but my ground game is a bit lacking... even if i did bjj, i admit my ground game is not at the level other bjj practitioners have... more than enough to deal with non grappler, but any wrestler would beat me on the ground... not so much on my feet tho, im confident i can beat them to the throw... my advice to any martial artist is... even if in the end you plan practicing a single martial art... at least dip your toes in everything you can try... you never know what you might learn...
Every art have their own strength and weaknesses that we need to learn and develop... That's why its really nice of you to try and practice some of the art to show the viewers the beauty of learning and exchanging of ideas/techniques. I hope that every practitioner are open to this kind of collaboration not only to learn but also to gain friends.😅 I had fun watching, especially that your opponent's taller and bigger than you😁 Merry Christmas!
video about aikido exists. MMA fanboy mob: NOOOO YOU JUST CAN'T FIGHT USING SOFT TECHNIQUES AND REFLEXES AS YOUR MAIN TOOL, JUST SPAM LOW THAI KICKS AND GO FOR A BJJ JOINT LOCK BROOOOOHHHHH!!!
I love this. An aikido sensei that does free sparring. That's great. It shows that aikido people can free spar safely. Also, it makes me interested in MMA/kickboxing footwork. Have you ever thought of doing a video with Ramsey Dewey?
I have to look into that person! As for this sensei, he does cross-training with other martial arts. That's why he can spar! You will see more in the upcoming videos!
@@KarateDojowaKu He's awesome. Ramsey Dewey is an MMA coach teaching in China. He's kind of a martial arts polymath. I've always found his videos, like yours, to be highly informative. I'd love to see a collaboration between you two. Merry Christmas to you and your friends and family. Merry Christmas to everyone at Karate Dojo Waku
@@davidbarnwell_virtual_clas6729 Again this is a stupid of me to ask this question. How is wing shun control the opponent movement if your opponent try not to engage and get out of line of attack?
Come on, man! You are cooperating with the Aikido practitioner! You pulling your punches & kicks, might as well just draw your attacks on paper, give them to the dude & have the dude react! It’s demos like these that have folks doubting the effectiveness of Aikido!
Well, excuse me, for I'm not one of your subscribers, youtube just recommended me this video and I decided to take a look, and now I see people pointing the fact that the karate fighter is not actually trying to land the hits, the height difference and etc. While I agree, well, it is a sparring and you don't wanna hurt your partner. So, could I suggest something? I think that the Aiki-jujutsu fighter could spar with a muay thai fighter. I mean, the muay thai practicioners normally have a hard stance, so they don't fall easily (they even use some of those sweeps), and they have movements that help them keep the opponent at distance, such as the teeps, which doesn't have to necessarily hit the face to keep distance. Anyway, his sweeps were well applied and nice. And, I think i should point out that I don't have anything against aikido neither karate, and i'm not trying to demean neither of you.
This is such an interesting sparring session. Especially since Aikido has a "bad reputation" of it being ineffective, but I've never understood why can't it incorporate more pressure testing. This looks like a fascinating evolution of the discipline. Thanks for sharing.
There is and should be its called randori, but only trained at higher levels and its requirement for grading from 2kyu and up to 2 dan. That said its there are a lot of rubbish schools and poorly trained aikidokas and since it takes a lot of time to get good at Aikido by the time they are either to old or to wise to go for a mma/ufc match. Since that takes only half a year to get results in the ring most pick mma over Aikido which takes year of not a lifetime. But i rather pick Aikido maybe to as effect as mma but in my opinion more fun.
@@Smokeywolf64 I'm familiar with randori [I'm a judo and jiujitsu practitioner]. And we start doing it at lower degrees, at very slow pace and with lots of care for our partner, but still, it's a gradual introduction to more complex forms of sparring. Good to know that it actually has, but it's just very removed from beginners. Thanks for sharing.
I believe the Tomiki line of aikido has randori from early levels. Tomiki studied when Ueshiba was younger and more ... combative. And most importantly, Tomiki was an advanced judoka trying to bring aikido insights into the judo teaching format, so of course he carefully worked out a way to do randori.
Aikidokas don't do pressure testing because "the techniques are too dangerous/deadly to be used in full power, it would injure the opponent during the sparring" Which is complete bullshit
Wow. I'm surprised. I have tried Aikijujutsu myself but I never expected it can work in its pure form against trained fighters. I gotta hit up my Sensei again... from beyond the grave.
It worked for my sensei when two bastards wanted to steal his gun. He didn't shooted them but he put those guys into a hospital using Daito Ryu. That's actualy much more complicated than a MMA fight because it was a life or death situation.
I've studied Aikido off and on for over twenty years. I cannot imagine a world-class boxer or cage fighter moving so poorly as the karateka we see here. Every movement to "strike" is on the same line, like a fencer or something. Why? Every move laterally is never to strike or throw, but to just find another line to "attack" on. Why? There is some truly awful Aikido out there, but what Erard-Sensei is showing is that good-to-excellent Aikido always involves moving off the line of attack and timing your response (then maybe Ten-Chi-Jin...Oshikiuchi...Kokyu), and kuzushi. Why is it that Okinawan Karate emphasizes careful movement to the inside with triangle footwork and balance, but Karate like this has all this hopping around? Japanese Koryu fencing--like Itto-ryu--has timed triangle movement that diffuses the attack. Why is Karate like this so far away from such beautiful and effective technique? Is it because Karate tournament matches don't allow movement that might actually defeat a real opponent? Please have a look at what effective movement can look like. Both of these champions learned from Muhammad Ali, but developed different styles using his movement. ua-cam.com/video/3qz5Ke2Ln2w/v-deo.html
Actually , Erard is not using his hand skill or jujutsu skill, he only try to over power you, you should push to the limit than you see the kansetsu waza at work
Hi! I really likes your videos,but I thing you need practice more contact sparing... I trained karate 4 years (And Ive got 2.kyu and I was good in kumite) Then I start with MMA and Ive got beat up lots of mouth And I thing this is big mistake in lots of karate schools. They dont go full contact. Then I learned grappling,wrestling and more contact stand up (kickboxing rules) and now I feel more complex and stronger. I recommend to all karatekas. this is my opinion and i'm interested in yours oss!
Has Guilaume ever tried sparring with other martial artists closer to his own size? And with some head gear perhaps to allow for strikes to the face? That would be more interesting to watch .........and rewarding for him. As many have already mentioned, the size difference and lack of contact here made it a very one sided unrealistic match up. I'd like to see him really test himself.
My Sensei teach me various technics of ¿grabbling is the english word? To get the opponent down an what we call "reduction" or so. And this is shotokan too. Is very important when you must take a guy to jail. (and he resist, if course). Merry Xmas and a better new year!
I like the example of humble sparring. There was no sense of trying to prove style over style, just helping each other to learn. Outside of the youtube world of "challenge matches" this is what it usually looks like in real life when martial artists are learning from each other. Less drama, more learning. When both martial artists have a lot of experience, either they stalemate (which is what happened here by end of 2nd round) or it goes until someone gets lucky or loses focus before the other person. I've noticed that many masters, as they get older, they keep getting better not because of physical ability but because they learn how to control the space better than others.
I was a little late to watch this video but I have to say I told you when I was talking about skilled Aikidoka being able to counter kicks. It's good that you've finally experienced Aiki firsthand and know what lessons to learn, which is the same as I did being an Aikidoka experiencing Judo and Karate the first time. Keep it up!
I love the concept of both art, but I don't see any transparency in this video, we clearly see that in this video aikido are more dominant added the fact that aikido guy is bigger than karate sensei 😅,in reality aikido doesn't work that much in a real fight. In my perspective karate is more powerful if used correctly. Still respect both arts and other Martial arts,OSU!!
A small little guy like that, with no contact, and with technique so weak, unfocused and flimsy, any person, martial arts or not, should be able to walk right through his "attacks" and push him over.
Most people think aikido is useless in a fight and this won't change their minds. Aikido guy is a foot taller and 100 lbs. heavier. Put an mma fighter in the same weight class against aikido guy.
First off I'm seeing a weight disadvantage for the Karate guy, also there's not enough power behind his attacks to be useful against a bigger opponent. The only viable strategy would be a stick and move, short combo into K.O. head kick. Buuuuut you gotta stick real hard otherwise a skilled opponent like this just eats the strike more or less closes the distance and does a whoopty doo. This point style Karate is really a horrible matchup and it's made worse by the weight difference between the two.
It’s always about the practitioner and how serious you are with your practice. In the Aikido world there are plenty of fake masters that destroy its reputation, but when Aikido is trained correctly and seriously, it can be as effective as any other martial art. But effectiveness is a relative concept, you can be super effective and finish in jail, or you can be effective enough to control and de escalate a dangerous situation. Aikido looks for the second option.
If what I saw was right, Aikido Man never caught a karateman's fist attack. The Aikido Man counterattacked skillfully after the karate fist strike his body. It remains unclear whether Aikido's technology can captch the striker's punch.
Really nice video! Guillaume Erard is one of the most famous budo researchers on UA-cam, he does a really nice job promoting aikido, aiki-jujutsu and budo in general. I really enjoyed this video and the sparring, and never imagined Erard sensei in a sparring! Thanks for the video! 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️
Any stryker with a touch fighting style tends to have serious difficulties against a grappler or a contact style stryker in a sportive sparring under MMA or Kickboxing rules. Especially if we consider a big weight diference.
@@michaelterrell5061 theres a lot of good fighters in MMA that came from touch style combat sports but they have to adapt all the game to focous on power without lost the speed. In this case we can see only a touch style karate against a biger grappler. If the karate guy put more power on the strikes and use more combinations maybe the tecniques of the aiki fighter did not work.
Aiki-jujutsu is not aikido. aikido is derived from aiki-jujutsu. Aikijujutsu is older than Aikido. The founder of Aikido was an Aikijujutsu practitioner, who, without going into too much detail, basically eliminated the combative applications of of Akijujutsu to make something more spiritual/aesthetically beautiful. The full name of Aiki-jujutsu was Daito-ryu aikijujutsu, or just Daito-ryu. Japanese Jujutsu, Shorinji kempo, hapkido, Kodokan judo and Aikido are all branches that have sprung from what was originally just Daito-ryu. Really interesting history! I just started Aikijujutsu myself, and was very fortunate enough to find a teacher nearby. Super cool stuff for anyone who loves martial arts and martial arts history.
Aikido pratictioner Is way bigger than the karate fighter, and the First of our contenders here Is doing nothing than use his weight Advance! Serius guys respect for everyone but there are weight classes for a reason. If the karateka was the same weigth of aikidoka and the karate was not the shotokan/point sistem but kyokushin or Simply a tough kickboxer with a right full contact conditioning, well.. things were gona be differtent. However big rispects for everyone! Osu !
Way you do karate is too soft, there is not strong hits at all. Why you don’t use chudan keri (mawashi, mae, ushiro)? Doing like this you verry, very easy target becouse you can not do any demage. Please, try to do karate as martial art and you’ll become better sports karateka as well
Thanks for your insight! I should've said it in the video, but we are both not going full speed :) I hope you can objectively see it from that perspective.
If you're striker and no contact is allowed you are a toothless tiger. The aikido guy has nothing at all to fear and is happy to just walk and throw you around at will. Plus he looks 20kgs heavier. Pointless experiment.
good technique by the Aiki-Jujutsu guy. But, as others have said, he is able to walk in a little :) I wonder, if Aiki-Jujutsu practioners added Boxing's theories of 'riding and slipping punches'. It might add to its effectiveness
This seems like a handicap match for the Karateka. The Karate guy is controlling all his attacks while the grappler is not. This makes the grappler confidently grab the karateka knowing very well that the punches will be controlled. If it was full contact perhaps there could have been a different result. @2:15 the karateka lunged with a controlled cross punch before being sweeped @3:20 the same. This is the problem behind a grappler having a friendly sparring match with a striker is that the odds will always favour the grappler.
The fact that he is nearly twice your size has a lot to do with this. If you were against an Aiki-jujitsu-ka of similar skill, but a match to your size, my guess is the results would have been different. Another thing is - and this is no insult to you - from what I've seen, your experience and training is 90+% orientated toward WKF style sport kumite, and you likely haven't trained (and this is just an assumption) with the "Shinken Shobu" attitude that old-school JKA karate-ka used to. It is my guess (and a relatively certain assumption) that if this gentleman went against the likes of Toshihito Kokubun in his prime, or going back further, Masao Kagawa, Mikio Yahara, Tomio Imamura, Frank Brennon, Elwyn Hall, and so, so many others, things would not go so well for this man. He was sweeping you here with relative ease - not because he is so skillful or because Aiki-jujutsu gives him some sort of advantage, but because he has some skill and understanding of "Irimi" (something few sport karate-ka understand) and (mostly) because he has size, strength, and weight on his size - factors that have nothing to do with any superiority or advantage in his art.
Would this work in a fight where someone was ACTUALLY trying to hurt you? This is obviously play fighting, but when we ask if something is effective, we don’t mean “can you score points in a sparring match,” we mean, “can you survive someone coming to cave your teeth in and break your damn neck?”
This video is awesome and I don't agree with people who are complaining about the difference in sizes: I think the difference in sizes is very good for both artists: -The karateka can improve his skills fighting against a grappler bigger than him (he cannot make a mistake or he will be quickly projected). -The aikijuju-doist can improve his skills by fighting a faster, smaller and more elusive striker (more difficult to apply grappling techniques).
@Wills Pram There was randori at this dojo, many of the people studying also studied other empty hand arts, and pressure testing was actually fun - there were Judoka, Kenpo, Tae Kwon Do, Aikidoka and a few Karateka mixed in. The same training partner was also a shodan in Okinawan karate, with full, pressure tested sparring. Even at a considerable size disadvantage, my Tori was hesitant to just come in and wring my neck - although my build would make it look easy - Hakko ryu was/ is great for break locks and grabs with respect to the Judoka that also worked out with us. In the end, for me, martial arts is about Rei - building relationships and learning things in a respectful manner. At the outset, the circle was huge, and all the arts looked waay different; at this point in my journey I've discovered my path, and found that the more I train, the smaller that circle seems; and the more similar the arts become. As a karateka and student of battojutsu, I am happy with what I am learning, and how it's applied. Thanks!
Haha its absolutely unfair test. Put any big grappling or mma guy with small "only kicks" style on LOW speed (no face contact) and you will get the same result every time. (small guy have only chance to ko you to the face and he losing that chance by "slow fight"). But if this aikido guys try to test any grappling guy of their size they would have problems and it would be absolutely another style of fight)))
U r not able to fight with this tall guy with ur jumping techniques .. cazz u r not stable and technically too week .. stop practicing 10% Karate i.e (Jumping Karate,)..
You stance are that of a typical Shotokan point sparring match. Your hands are low, you don't know how to cut angles and you don't know any grappling techniques. That Aiki Jujutsu guy is actually a walking punching bag. Very easy to beat even though he's way bigger and taller than you. His hands are low, his chin are way expose and his stance are so bad which makes it easy for a leg kicks or taking him down to the ground. Anyways, great video mate. Keep it up.
Just my thoughts observing both exchanges. Firstly, the karate guy is chronically unstable. His movement destabilises his posture and prevents him from generating force. Secondly, the karate guy has no commitment or follow through on his attacks. This makes him pensive further adding to his lack of force generation. I don't think it's his karate but rather his application of it which causes him to come up short.
Can't say Aikido is any better just basing on this sparring. Because the Aikido guys in this match up are almost 6" taller and 20 KGs heavier than the karate guys. The size difference has a huge impact here.
Mr. Waku, strike hard!, too light for an acceptable comparative. I understand that you are appliying control, but, if will be like this, then it's pointless.
The Karate blows are stopped with proper control while the techniques of Aikijutsu are applied right after the tsuki or keri. If the strikes were actually landed (or a referee stopped the fight at any strike on target) the Aikijutsu guy wouldn't have had any possibility to deliver a technique. Another important point is the different in bodyweight of the two opponents which makes it so easy for the Aikijutsu guy to throw the opponent. I think the Aikijutsu guy is actually a very good practitioner, but the sparring result doesn't reflect reality at all!
It's interesting how both of you don't cover your head. Would be interesting to know how both of you would fight, if there would be a real danger to get hurt. At 1:28 you could easily knock him out with your right, if you had the intention to. And the hight difference makes it hard to compare. Maybe the aikido-ka were a bit more careful if you were 20cm taller :P But I am curious to see what an aikido-ka makes different to us karate practitioners.
To me this looked less like solid technique and more like further proof for why weight classes exist. There was a legit sweep at 1:29, but again, I’m not convinced that would work reliably if there wasn’t a 25kg or more weight difference.
Everyone's gangsta against someone half their size who's just doing a single-striking fencing and extremely passive "sparring" Also that's the only way you can actually win a fight using aikido
Dude.... he's like literally almost 100 lbs heavier than you, and literally almost a foot taller than you... Get a 115 lbs aikidoka vs a 200 lbs karateka and it would look ridiculous.
Piggy backing on some comments... size difference, no danger of actual physical harm, and no true intent on hitting. Swith the roles with size and intent and there may be a huge difference. Please stop misrepresenting your arts. The karate guy is not even trying and failing. The aiki guy is very underwhelmed and not taking the precautions he normally would if a more fierce opponent was avail. Just my opinion.
Perfect, Sport karate vs a grappling style such as aikijujutsu/aikido.... and against a much bigger guy ..... real Karate is more like krav maga-mma than this kids game known as sport karate
not a very fair demonstration. you were clearly holding back while he was free to proceed forward and hold/grab/throw/counter you. aikido has a very bad reputation in the west, despite the style clearly having very effective practitioners. it is because of its methodoloy of training. and videos like this --> ua-cam.com/video/PLP_DInpPHE/v-deo.html and this ua-cam.com/video/0KUXTC8g_pk/v-deo.html the west seems to respect and believe in judo more than aikido.
Nonsensical... sport karate rules vs someone not following the rules??? Surely they should both follow same rules or the karate practitioner should be using all his karate skills and not the very limited sport karate techniques???
Looks kinda silly, like dad play fighting with his kids .... lets get big dude out of his pajamas and matched with equally sized MMA fighter. I suspect we'd be looking at something quite different.
The only way you can really test anything in striking vs grappling with light sparring is if the grappling guy is respecting the moves and back away when he’s touched realizing that he should be hurt when that happens. This is not what happened here. You attack and pull back your moves , he doesn’t care, keeps going forward like nothing happened and throws you.... obviously, when tested this way, the grappling tech will seem to be far stronger than it actually is.... he needs to respect the strikes that hit him or else this is worth nothing really
Such a crap, karate guy is trying to make points and aikido guy, who's much bigger, going all the way down. Aikido guy has no chance against a kickboxer of the same weight
I'm not that impressed tbh I feel like your opponent is so much larger he could do anything and it would probably still work especially when u consider it's a friendly sparing match with no real risk. Interesting video tho 🙂
His face & head are wide open. If you're not going to train with punches & kicks to the face, how are you going to execute punches & kicks to the face or defend punches and kicks to the face? Which is especially important with an opponent who is bigger than you, where delivering a fight stopping blow to the body is far less likely than a fight stopping blow to the head.
Practical application of Aikido requires a sense of timing and a control of range few appreciate and far fewer possess. Most Aikido dojos/schools/etc do very little to provide students opportunities to develop these.
If a guy is that much bigger than you he can dictate the pace of the sparring. If you were big like him he'd have been much more cautious of how he use is Aiki-Jitsu. I mean common that guy looked a giant compared to you.
That weight /size difference makes it ridiculous. The aiki guy just took you out with his bulk every time, there was very little technique to speak of.
There is confused comments here. This is not aikido but Aiki Jutsu which is very different. Sure size matters and since the karate attacks are not full of commitment this has a big effect. However the reality is that of a grappler can cross the range then he is in his element. This kind of video don’t demonstrate superiority of one art over another but distance control. I’m in awe of the karate instructor who keep exploring other arts with an open mind. Real martial spirit right there
I think the comment about not trying to land real hits is a good one. Another point is that fighting a taller bigger opponent is difficult, especially if the bigger person knows how to use his reach advantage. I think if the smaller guy was the one doing the aikijutsu and the bigger guy did karate, the result would be the same: The bigger guy would win, in this case, because he knows how to use his reach.
this was not an equal comparison with the height and weight disparities which also had an impact on the reach advantage as well. The Karate-Ka used a very limited skill set with the much bigger Aiki practitioner who maintained his skills with out any apprehensions as the Karate Ka presented no threat at all. We are taught as Martial Artist we use our minds and skills to break an opponent down regardless of the height, weight, age or gender, This exhibition worked to the opposite meaning with this it showed a smaller person need not even Practice Martial Arts to which I know from practical experience a small person can develop the skill set to break down even a skilled Martial Arts that may be a foot shorter and a hundred pounds lighter as I have seen it and lived it on many different occasions.
@@AikiTom76 No to the contrary Real Karate teaches us to use our entire body as a weapon. I was disappointed as to how this exhibition was staged, the Karate-Ka deployed a very limited skill set that never garnered any respect from his opponent. one of my closest friends stands at 5 foot 2 inches and my Dojo classmate of more than 35 years has taken down senior Blackbelts from many different Martial Arts disciplines with ease to include a skill set widely respected by all as he has mastered the ideology of Karate and the spirit Karate-Do. If you believed that the Karate-Ka provided a good representation of Karate you are sadly mistaken he fought to survive not to control his opponents weakness as the Aiki practitioner had plenty. In closing with more than 40 years as a Karate-Ka I will never believe that size is the overwhelming factor for any Martial Arts discipline. Skills are developed through quality teaching using theory and hands on applications to understand body alignment, speed, reach, timing, angles, body language are some of the elements that will contribute to success or failures in sports Martial Arts, or more importantly real life combat.
@philosophiz0r Clearly you either have very limited Martial Arts education or absolutely no eat all. If you think that the Karate-Ka presented a decent representation of Karate you are sadly mistaken. Allow me to help you understand if one is afraid at a season Blackbelt level to put his or her skills against another and even more so at a controlled level they are not worthy or that Dan (Blackbelt) plain and simple. By the way we all should live life with Honor.
To those that want to see how aikido is applied to street conditions instead of sparring/kumite, watch the videos aikidoflow. ua-cam.com/users/AikidoflowLondonvideos The host is a bouncer/doorman at a club.
2:15 is ippon. I mean it’s fun to watch you being tossed around by someone twice your size who has great balance but it seems somewhat pointless when your strikes land and you get taken off your feet in response.
I think a big thing of note here is that you're not actually trying to land these hits. It's easy for your opponent to walk forward and grab you when they know theres no danger. Because you're not trying to land them with power they're being thrown and recovered pretty slowly giving them more opportunity to react and grab. I'd like to see what happens when full speed attacks are thrown.
Legitimately impressed by his sweeps though. He applied it well and made me rethink my views on Aikido.
Definitely an interesting video though and kudos to those practitioners. This was a good video thank you for making it!
Thanks for your opinion!
Thank you for loading the video. I think the two styles were so vastly different. Your style was tournament (point) karate. With the kicks, snap punches, no contact with the head or knees. Your opponent’s style was aikido where he would receive your attack and counter by blocking and pushing you away. Comparing and contrasting the two your opponents was more suited to street self defence, as point karate is not for the street
@@gpon893 hello..... a question...have u ever gotten a pt karate punch to the head or gut at full speed and power without padding..... or a front kick or roundhouse kick to the head at full force or speed... there is no difference... in this case between sport or street.... a sport car or street car knocks u a 100mph..which will u survive?..
You could same the same if the aikidoka was not holding back on hard throws or finishing with pins or locks. Guillame is good at both aikido and daito-ryu.
@@trinidadraj152 Yes and no. Grabbing kicks and punches are a lot harder if the other guy is actually hitting you in the face. And yes, unless you have boxed a lot, you will get hit.
Kinda hard to compare the two martial arts like this when there’s such an immense difference in size. In order to gain any leverage at all, you’d have to be going for the K.O.
Yes man, like, an karate fighter can not do your punchs and kicks, without a K.O. Even if its an just a demonstration, when you kick someone without the hit, if you opponent its not a striker, its easy to grab us.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Although there's no question that the techniques are legitimate, it's way easier to catch the kick when you have a weight advantage along with a reach that makes it hard to close distance. Overreaching against someone who likes gripping, hand trapping or grappling is dangerous, and being a foot taller makes it hard not to overreach. That being said, I was very happy to see that in his second exchange he worked much harder to create an angle and attack from a stronger position, but I think the point karate has given the bad habit of not recovering properly from failed kicks. 2:47 made me cringe, as the kick was easily blocked and disrupted his balance for an easy back take.
@@sway71 so, in my karate shotokan, we always kick without let the leg in front of you. Just when we are doing "kihon". Sorry for my poor english! I am an Brazilian lol
@@pedrobrandt7115 Boa noite! So you always pull the kick back? Like you always bring it back to it's starting position?
@@sway71 yes, especially in kumite, because you can suffer an counterattack if you leg push foward. I do not know If you understand me lol. I will search a video
I'd like to see this aikido guy fight against Naka Sensei and see if he could stop his oi tsuki!
That would be interesting!
@@KarateDojowaKu ...yes it would indeed
Tatsuya Naka would obliterate him if it was an actual sparring session. No offense to Yusuke, but there are black belt fighters and then there are BLACK BELT FIGHTERS and Naka is the latter. Aikido does have some things that are worth integrating, but we've all seen the videos of aikidoka sparring non-aikidoka and getting destroyed. By the way, most of the stuff that the aikido guy did I've seen it done in shotokan, shito-ryu, tang soo do and other styles already.
A big issue that I saw in this video (and that others have also pointed out) was that both were basically just going through the motions. Both should have gone harder. I'm not saying go full out K1 or Glory, but actually try and make contact with a decent amount of force. We've all heard the famous Mike Tyson quote: "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" or Carlson Gracie: "Punch a jiu-jitsu black belt in the face, he becomes a brown belt. Punch him again a purple, etc." If the title is going to say "Karate vs ..." Its really gotta be a "vs" situation. This was more of a demo type thing I'd say.
It's obvious that your opponent had several advantages over you. He had a large size advantage, experience sparring a pure striker with a limited rule set, and had very good technique. The only way I could fight someone like him was to consider it a self-defense scenario. Meaning. no gloves, very low leg attacks, and targeting vital areas such as the eyes, nose, throat and groin. Your movement is very good, so if it was a real fight, you could easily get away and leave the area :-)
Lol it wasn't a "fight", but an exchange of techniques :)
Loved it! That last sweep in the first exchange was beautiful. Also, merry Christmas!
Good job!
Guillaume Erard has more an Aïkido style than real Aikijujutsu. Anyway this fight is not relevent, no guard at all, huge size and weight differences, it would have been nice to see the Karateka going full speed and strength, it would have been totally different in the outcome. But it was still very interesting. Thank you for the video
Not that I want anyone hurt. But it's easy to throw an opponent that does not deal damage. If he can take your punch and counter you were at a strong disadvantage.
I'd like to see protective gear and full contact sparring.
That being said, a great demo of aiki techniques against a non complying opponent for a change.
Nice sparring!!
This was awesome!💯💯💯💯💯
Nice leg sweep
Sensei from aikido is very good fighter
Why did you not punch him in the head? Maybe and overhand right or something.
Dear Yusuke I understand that "Karate Dojo waKu" is a commercial project and nothing more, but in this video you did nothing and looked like the beginner.
Did you degrade your skils intentionally or you are really the beginner??? :)
It is obvious that we were not going full speed, and we are just trying out some parts of karate and aiki jujutsu. Whether you see me as a beginner or not is your choice! Haha Merry Christmas to you!
@@KarateDojowaKu Merry Christmas to you,too!
He sux. No other way to say it. Another martial arts fraud has been exposed.
As either real fights or full contact competition goes neither would last long. The karate style fighter will get knocked out on a regular basis because his hands are down and the other guy is even more likely to get knocked out for the same reason and because he isn’t using any offensive attacks. At least the Karate style fighter has a chance to land a knockout.
Take it from the youngest of three boys. When the opponent is that much bigger then you, there's no sense in targeting the head and even the body. Your punches and kicks are just too accessable. If he puts his hands on the musubime of his obi, you have to reach up and really extend and he will get there first every time. The distance from the floor to his chest and groin might as well be the distance to the sun.
You should be looking him in the eye but targeting their knees, ankles and toes.
*Doren o hikaru*
Break a toe and the spirit drains out
Thank you for your video. Have been waiting for this vdo for a long time.
I practice aikido and never practice karate. My question might sound stupid but why karate move is so very linear?
This is Mishima Kazuya vs Kazama Jun/Asuka
Lol Thanks!
Well the karate guy is trying to get the IPPON while the aj guy is trying to apply his techniques .not even close to a real fight.But both are very respectful martial arts with a big amount of history and heritage
Much respect for doing this. I feel he had confidence to walk through punches and kicks knowing you were holding back. its always difficult because a grappler can go 100% and have a lower chance of injuring partner as opposed to a striker who if he goes 100% the consequences to training partner are higher. Also would have liked to see more combinations in those punches and kicks. One off kicks in particular were too easy for him to pick. When I spar i adjust to how i know my opponents like to fight. if its a grappler im very conservative with the kicks as in if theyre too flashy they close the distance very fast which is what they want. my stance is a lot more squarer as well to defend take down attempts and movement is more kiba dach side to side think tekki shodan to take away the single leg take down attempts. Great video. more like this please. osu!
I love your objective analysis! Thanks!
i totally get what you say, its not really "100%" tho... like... if you did a jujigatame with your 100% you could break the other guys arm... however... if you have enough experience, you can actually go as hard as needed just to win without having to break someones arm... and for throws, yeah, most of them you can go 100% and the mat+ the oponents ukemi does the job for you... at least that was my experience when i did shotokan, bjj, sanda, soo bahk do and bujinkan... throws you can go all out... jointlocks, you dont need to go all out but you can go hard enough to control the oponent without accidentally breaking something in most cases...
however, my experience with striking in most of those arts is that light contact/pointstyle fighters can go as fast as full contact fighters and stop the strike before it causes any damage... but knowing the strike will not hurt makes it easy to go through them... but the consecuences of hard sparring and or sparring harder than light contact(like... strike full contact to body protected by one of those sanda style chest protectors but light contact to the head) can make the fight even(even if it will not hurt you badly, getting a knee strike to the chest when wearing one of those makes you want to stay away from knees)
i like your strategy tho..
my strategy is usually to be in a side stance when they are far enough for me to kick and in a "sumo stance" if they get to close... from there i either box or grapple...
@@DisegnoSb Thanks for your great input. I also think there was a bit of a height/weight disadvantage. Osu!
@@DisegnoSb As I see most strikers vs grapplers the usual plan is to hit hard legs to reduce mobility and go in for the kill when suitable. Basically chipping away mobility till proper moment.
It isvery hard to spar properly with such different styles but I feel a lot of traditional martial arts are heavily lacking ANY sparring. This has been widely acknowledged now and it is heartwarming to see the humbleness of TMA trying to cover for this weaknesses.
@@Ilethsamael yeah, if your only tool is striking, then thats the best strategy, i have a bit of striking and a bit of grappling... however, i have my weaknesses in both... in striking, my kicks are my best tool, once we get to punching distance, i can manage to do some damage and avoid getting hit, but my chances of knocking my oponent out are basically 0(my kicks are my only tool for knock outs) and in grappling, im kinda good at avoid getting thrown, kinda good at throwing, but my ground game is a bit lacking... even if i did bjj, i admit my ground game is not at the level other bjj practitioners have... more than enough to deal with non grappler, but any wrestler would beat me on the ground... not so much on my feet tho, im confident i can beat them to the throw...
my advice to any martial artist is... even if in the end you plan practicing a single martial art... at least dip your toes in everything you can try... you never know what you might learn...
And not for nothing, but it looks like David vs. Goliath! Lol
Lol!
Great Video!
Oh hey Seth, I thought I'd find you here
If you get around SoCal we can do it at my dojo. C'mon! Let's have fun
Every art have their own strength and weaknesses that we need to learn and develop... That's why its really nice of you to try and practice some of the art to show the viewers the beauty of learning and exchanging of ideas/techniques. I hope that every practitioner are open to this kind of collaboration not only to learn but also to gain friends.😅 I had fun watching, especially that your opponent's taller and bigger than you😁
Merry Christmas!
Thank you so much 😀
video about aikido exists.
MMA fanboy mob: NOOOO YOU JUST CAN'T FIGHT USING SOFT TECHNIQUES AND REFLEXES AS YOUR MAIN TOOL, JUST SPAM LOW THAI KICKS AND GO FOR A BJJ JOINT LOCK BROOOOOHHHHH!!!
I love this. An aikido sensei that does free sparring. That's great. It shows that aikido people can free spar safely. Also, it makes me interested in MMA/kickboxing footwork. Have you ever thought of doing a video with Ramsey Dewey?
I have to look into that person! As for this sensei, he does cross-training with other martial arts. That's why he can spar! You will see more in the upcoming videos!
@@KarateDojowaKu He's awesome. Ramsey Dewey is an MMA coach teaching in China. He's kind of a martial arts polymath. I've always found his videos, like yours, to be highly informative. I'd love to see a collaboration between you two. Merry Christmas to you and your friends and family. Merry Christmas to everyone at Karate Dojo Waku
Second Coach Ramsey. He is cool. Collaborate with him might be very hard due to travel restrictions though.
@@jimnirat8199 Also Sifu Greg from Greenville Academy Martial Arts. He does Wing Chun. He makes Wing Chun hella practical.
@@davidbarnwell_virtual_clas6729 Again this is a stupid of me to ask this question. How is wing shun control the opponent movement if your opponent try not to engage and get out of line of attack?
Merry Christmas!! And love watching style vs style exchanges for educational purposes.
Merry Christmas to you too! Thanks!
Come on, man! You are cooperating with the Aikido practitioner! You pulling your punches & kicks, might as well just draw your attacks on paper, give them to the dude & have the dude react! It’s demos like these that have folks doubting the effectiveness of Aikido!
Big difference between aikido and aiki jujutsu
Well, excuse me, for I'm not one of your subscribers, youtube just recommended me this video and I decided to take a look, and now I see people pointing the fact that the karate fighter is not actually trying to land the hits, the height difference and etc. While I agree, well, it is a sparring and you don't wanna hurt your partner. So, could I suggest something? I think that the Aiki-jujutsu fighter could spar with a muay thai fighter. I mean, the muay thai practicioners normally have a hard stance, so they don't fall easily (they even use some of those sweeps), and they have movements that help them keep the opponent at distance, such as the teeps, which doesn't have to necessarily hit the face to keep distance.
Anyway, his sweeps were well applied and nice. And, I think i should point out that I don't have anything against aikido neither karate, and i'm not trying to demean neither of you.
This is such an interesting sparring session. Especially since Aikido has a "bad reputation" of it being ineffective, but I've never understood why can't it incorporate more pressure testing. This looks like a fascinating evolution of the discipline. Thanks for sharing.
ITS A 6 FT 2 GUY VS A 5FT GUY COMON.
There is and should be its called randori, but only trained at higher levels and its requirement for grading from 2kyu and up to 2 dan. That said its there are a lot of rubbish schools and poorly trained aikidokas and since it takes a lot of time to get good at Aikido by the time they are either to old or to wise to go for a mma/ufc match. Since that takes only half a year to get results in the ring most pick mma over Aikido which takes year of not a lifetime. But i rather pick Aikido maybe to as effect as mma but in my opinion more fun.
@@Smokeywolf64 I'm familiar with randori [I'm a judo and jiujitsu practitioner]. And we start doing it at lower degrees, at very slow pace and with lots of care for our partner, but still, it's a gradual introduction to more complex forms of sparring. Good to know that it actually has, but it's just very removed from beginners. Thanks for sharing.
I believe the Tomiki line of aikido has randori from early levels. Tomiki studied when Ueshiba was younger and more ... combative. And most importantly, Tomiki was an advanced judoka trying to bring aikido insights into the judo teaching format, so of course he carefully worked out a way to do randori.
Aikidokas don't do pressure testing because "the techniques are too dangerous/deadly to be used in full power, it would injure the opponent during the sparring"
Which is complete bullshit
Wow. I'm surprised. I have tried Aikijujutsu myself but I never expected it can work in its pure form against trained fighters.
I gotta hit up my Sensei again... from beyond the grave.
Hope you go back to practicing Aiki Jujutsu!
@@KarateDojowaKu My Sensei is dead. 😭
It is about user not style. But people dont trust styles that dont look flashy and agressive.
@@Vatras888 that
It worked for my sensei when two bastards wanted to steal his gun. He didn't shooted them but he put those guys into a hospital using Daito Ryu.
That's actualy much more complicated than a MMA fight because it was a life or death situation.
I've studied Aikido off and on for over twenty years. I cannot imagine a world-class boxer or cage fighter moving so poorly as the karateka we see here. Every movement to "strike" is on the same line, like a fencer or something. Why? Every move laterally is never to strike or throw, but to just find another line to "attack" on. Why? There is some truly awful Aikido out there, but what Erard-Sensei is showing is that good-to-excellent Aikido always involves moving off the line of attack and timing your response (then maybe Ten-Chi-Jin...Oshikiuchi...Kokyu), and kuzushi. Why is it that Okinawan Karate emphasizes careful movement to the inside with triangle footwork and balance, but Karate like this has all this hopping around? Japanese Koryu fencing--like Itto-ryu--has timed triangle movement that diffuses the attack. Why is Karate like this so far away from such beautiful and effective technique? Is it because Karate tournament matches don't allow movement that might actually defeat a real opponent?
Please have a look at what effective movement can look like. Both of these champions learned from Muhammad Ali, but developed different styles using his movement.
ua-cam.com/video/3qz5Ke2Ln2w/v-deo.html
After seeing this video, I ask, WHO TF SAID AIKIDO DONT WORK?
I agree! But don't forget, he does cross-training with Kyokushin
Actually , Erard is not using his hand skill or jujutsu skill, he only try to over power you, you should push to the limit than you see the kansetsu waza at work
True intellectual humility. I've done the same with many different styles
Hi!
I really likes your videos,but I thing you need practice more contact sparing...
I trained karate 4 years (And Ive got 2.kyu and I was good in kumite) Then I start with MMA and Ive got beat up lots of mouth
And I thing this is big mistake in lots of karate schools. They dont go full contact.
Then I learned grappling,wrestling and more contact stand up (kickboxing rules) and now I feel more complex and stronger.
I recommend to all karatekas.
this is my opinion and i'm interested in yours
oss!
Has Guilaume ever tried sparring with other martial artists closer to his own size? And with some head gear perhaps to allow for strikes to the face? That would be more interesting to watch .........and rewarding for him. As many have already mentioned, the size difference and lack of contact here made it a very one sided unrealistic match up. I'd like to see him really test himself.
Looks fun!!
Question: do you have any grappling experience at all, like judo or the like?
Nothing serious!
Also, the theme of this exchange was using karate movements against Aikido, so I didn't think anything about grappling!
My Sensei teach me various technics of ¿grabbling is the english word? To get the opponent down an what we call "reduction" or so. And this is shotokan too. Is very important when you must take a guy to jail. (and he resist, if course). Merry Xmas and a better new year!
I'd like to see him do the same against someone the same size and weight as he is.
I like the example of humble sparring. There was no sense of trying to prove style over style, just helping each other to learn. Outside of the youtube world of "challenge matches" this is what it usually looks like in real life when martial artists are learning from each other. Less drama, more learning. When both martial artists have a lot of experience, either they stalemate (which is what happened here by end of 2nd round) or it goes until someone gets lucky or loses focus before the other person. I've noticed that many masters, as they get older, they keep getting better not because of physical ability but because they learn how to control the space better than others.
I was a little late to watch this video but I have to say I told you when I was talking about skilled Aikidoka being able to counter kicks. It's good that you've finally experienced Aiki firsthand and know what lessons to learn, which is the same as I did being an Aikidoka experiencing Judo and Karate the first time.
Keep it up!
I love the concept of both art, but I don't see any transparency in this video, we clearly see that in this video aikido are more dominant added the fact that aikido guy is bigger than karate sensei 😅,in reality aikido doesn't work that much in a real fight. In my perspective karate is more powerful if used correctly. Still respect both arts and other Martial arts,OSU!!
A small little guy like that, with no contact, and with technique so weak, unfocused and flimsy, any person, martial arts or not, should be able to walk right through his "attacks" and push him over.
Exactly
Most people think aikido is useless in a fight and this won't change their minds. Aikido guy is a foot taller and 100 lbs. heavier. Put an mma fighter in the same weight class against aikido guy.
who gives a shit?
Naw the karate ka isn't good at sparing it shows
Better than All Rokas videos
First off I'm seeing a weight disadvantage for the Karate guy, also there's not enough power behind his attacks to be useful against a bigger opponent. The only viable strategy would be a stick and move, short combo into K.O. head kick.
Buuuuut you gotta stick real hard otherwise a skilled opponent like this just eats the strike more or less closes the distance and does a whoopty doo.
This point style Karate is really a horrible matchup and it's made worse by the weight difference between the two.
Is that daito ryu?
awesome Vid! Kudos to Guillaume for crossing the sparring veil
I agree!
Pretty good display of skill, I'd like to see Guillaume Erard grappling with a wrestler or a judoka
Brother?
@@MansMan42069 Brother
It’s always about the practitioner and how serious you are with your practice.
In the Aikido world there are plenty of fake masters that destroy its reputation, but when Aikido is trained correctly and seriously, it can be as effective as any other martial art. But effectiveness is a relative concept, you can be super effective and finish in jail, or you can be effective enough to control and de escalate a dangerous situation. Aikido looks for the second option.
Mario Seoane yep, I would've said similar to you.
If what I saw was right, Aikido Man never caught a karateman's fist attack. The Aikido Man counterattacked skillfully after the karate fist strike his body. It remains unclear whether Aikido's technology can captch the striker's punch.
Wtf ? XD
Nice video. To much respect involved.
Merry Christmas!
He is taller than you too much haha 😆
That's a fact for sure! Haha
Merry Chirstmas!
You may be fast but you should check out Aikido or jujutsu
Thanks!
Really nice video! Guillaume Erard is one of the most famous budo researchers on UA-cam, he does a really nice job promoting aikido, aiki-jujutsu and budo in general.
I really enjoyed this video and the sparring, and never imagined Erard sensei in a sparring!
Thanks for the video! 🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️
Any stryker with a touch fighting style tends to have serious difficulties against a grappler or a contact style stryker in a sportive sparring under MMA or Kickboxing rules. Especially if we consider a big weight diference.
LYOTO THE DRAGON MACHIDA!!! My point is
That he used his point sparring skills effectively in mma.
@@michaelterrell5061 theres a lot of good fighters in MMA that came from touch style combat sports but they have to adapt all the game to focous on power without lost the speed. In this case we can see only a touch style karate against a biger grappler. If the karate guy put more power on the strikes and use more combinations maybe the tecniques of the aiki fighter did not work.
@@MarinhoRFilho Then I agree.
Aiki-jujutsu is not aikido. aikido is derived from aiki-jujutsu. Aikijujutsu is older than Aikido. The founder of Aikido was an Aikijujutsu practitioner, who, without going into too much detail, basically eliminated the combative applications of of Akijujutsu to make something more spiritual/aesthetically beautiful.
The full name of Aiki-jujutsu was Daito-ryu aikijujutsu, or just Daito-ryu. Japanese Jujutsu, Shorinji kempo, hapkido, Kodokan judo and Aikido are all branches that have sprung from what was originally just Daito-ryu.
Really interesting history! I just started Aikijujutsu myself, and was very fortunate enough to find a teacher nearby. Super cool stuff for anyone who loves martial arts and martial arts history.
Aikido pratictioner Is way bigger than the karate fighter, and the First of our contenders here Is doing nothing than use his weight Advance! Serius guys respect for everyone but there are weight classes for a reason. If the karateka was the same weigth of aikidoka and the karate was not the shotokan/point sistem but kyokushin or Simply a tough kickboxer with a right full contact conditioning, well.. things were gona be differtent. However big rispects for everyone! Osu !
Way you do karate is too soft, there is not strong hits at all. Why you don’t use chudan keri (mawashi, mae, ushiro)? Doing like this you verry, very easy target becouse you can not do any demage. Please, try to do karate as martial art and you’ll become better sports karateka as well
Thanks for your insight! I should've said it in the video, but we are both not going full speed :) I hope you can objectively see it from that perspective.
@@KarateDojowaKu
Ok, I understand. Good luck and wish you the best in your journey
If you are both going slow ie. not at full speed, then you’re much worse at karate than I thought. Please hand your blackbelt back.
If you're striker and no contact is allowed you are a toothless tiger. The aikido guy has nothing at all to fear and is happy to just walk and throw you around at will. Plus he looks 20kgs heavier. Pointless experiment.
good technique by the Aiki-Jujutsu guy. But, as others have said, he is able to walk in a little :)
I wonder, if Aiki-Jujutsu practioners added Boxing's theories of 'riding and slipping punches'. It might add to its effectiveness
This seems like a handicap match for the Karateka. The Karate guy is controlling all his attacks while the grappler is not. This makes the grappler confidently grab the karateka knowing very well that the punches will be controlled. If it was full contact perhaps there could have been a different result. @2:15 the karateka lunged with a controlled cross punch before being sweeped @3:20 the same. This is the problem behind a grappler having a friendly sparring match with a striker is that the odds will always favour the grappler.
The fact that he is nearly twice your size has a lot to do with this. If you were against an Aiki-jujitsu-ka of similar skill, but a match to your size, my guess is the results would have been different. Another thing is - and this is no insult to you - from what I've seen, your experience and training is 90+% orientated toward WKF style sport kumite, and you likely haven't trained (and this is just an assumption) with the "Shinken Shobu" attitude that old-school JKA karate-ka used to.
It is my guess (and a relatively certain assumption) that if this gentleman went against the likes of Toshihito Kokubun in his prime, or going back further, Masao Kagawa, Mikio Yahara, Tomio Imamura, Frank Brennon, Elwyn Hall, and so, so many others, things would not go so well for this man.
He was sweeping you here with relative ease - not because he is so skillful or because Aiki-jujutsu gives him some sort of advantage, but because he has some skill and understanding of "Irimi" (something few sport karate-ka understand) and (mostly) because he has size, strength, and weight on his size - factors that have nothing to do with any superiority or advantage in his art.
Would this work in a fight where someone was ACTUALLY trying to hurt you? This is obviously play fighting, but when we ask if something is effective, we don’t mean “can you score points in a sparring match,” we mean, “can you survive someone coming to cave your teeth in and break your damn neck?”
This video is awesome and I don't agree with people who are complaining about the difference in sizes: I think the difference in sizes is very good for both artists:
-The karateka can improve his skills fighting against a grappler bigger than him (he cannot make a mistake or he will be quickly projected).
-The aikijuju-doist can improve his skills by fighting a faster, smaller and more elusive striker (more difficult to apply grappling techniques).
I cross trained in Hakko Ryu, and my partner was 6'4" and waay bigger, and that's how I know it works, because it worked on him!
@Wills Pram There was randori at this dojo, many of the people studying also studied other empty hand arts, and pressure testing was actually fun - there were Judoka, Kenpo, Tae Kwon Do, Aikidoka and a few Karateka mixed in. The same training partner was also a shodan in Okinawan karate, with full, pressure tested sparring. Even at a considerable size disadvantage, my Tori was hesitant to just come in and wring my neck - although my build would make it look easy - Hakko ryu was/ is great for break locks and grabs with respect to the Judoka that also worked out with us. In the end, for me, martial arts is about Rei - building relationships and learning things in a respectful manner. At the outset, the circle was huge, and all the arts looked waay different; at this point in my journey I've discovered my path, and found that the more I train, the smaller that circle seems; and the more similar the arts become. As a karateka and student of battojutsu, I am happy with what I am learning, and how it's applied. Thanks!
@Wills Pram Daito ryu does have randori, just not as much as judo
@@TNTTestificate they actually have some type of sparring in aikijujutsu?
Haha its absolutely unfair test. Put any big grappling or mma guy with small "only kicks" style on LOW speed (no face contact) and you will get the same result every time. (small guy have only chance to ko you to the face and he losing that chance by "slow fight"). But if this aikido guys try to test any grappling guy of their size they would have problems and it would be absolutely another style of fight)))
U r not able to fight with this tall guy with ur jumping techniques .. cazz u r not stable and technically too week .. stop practicing 10% Karate i.e (Jumping Karate,)..
You stance are that of a typical Shotokan point sparring match. Your hands are low, you don't know how to cut angles and you don't know any grappling techniques. That Aiki Jujutsu guy is actually a walking punching bag. Very easy to beat even though he's way bigger and taller than you. His hands are low, his chin are way expose and his stance are so bad which makes it easy for a leg kicks or taking him down to the ground. Anyways, great video mate. Keep it up.
Just my thoughts observing both exchanges. Firstly, the karate guy is chronically unstable. His movement destabilises his posture and prevents him from generating force. Secondly, the karate guy has no commitment or follow through on his attacks. This makes him pensive further adding to his lack of force generation. I don't think it's his karate but rather his application of it which causes him to come up short.
Can't say Aikido is any better just basing on this sparring.
Because the Aikido guys in this match up are almost 6" taller and 20 KGs heavier than the karate guys.
The size difference has a huge impact here.
Mr. Waku, strike hard!, too light for an acceptable comparative. I understand that you are appliying control, but, if will be like this, then it's pointless.
The Karate blows are stopped with proper control while the techniques of Aikijutsu are applied right after the tsuki or keri. If the strikes were actually landed (or a referee stopped the fight at any strike on target) the Aikijutsu guy wouldn't have had any possibility to deliver a technique. Another important point is the different in bodyweight of the two opponents which makes it so easy for the Aikijutsu guy to throw the opponent. I think the Aikijutsu guy is actually a very good practitioner, but the sparring result doesn't reflect reality at all!
It's interesting how both of you don't cover your head.
Would be interesting to know how both of you would fight, if there would be a real danger to get hurt. At 1:28 you could easily knock him out with your right, if you had the intention to.
And the hight difference makes it hard to compare. Maybe the aikido-ka were a bit more careful if you were 20cm taller :P
But I am curious to see what an aikido-ka makes different to us karate practitioners.
To me this looked less like solid technique and more like further proof for why weight classes exist. There was a legit sweep at 1:29, but again, I’m not convinced that would work reliably if there wasn’t a 25kg or more weight difference.
Everyone's gangsta against someone half their size who's just doing a single-striking fencing and extremely passive "sparring"
Also that's the only way you can actually win a fight using aikido
Dude.... he's like literally almost 100 lbs heavier than you, and literally almost a foot taller than you... Get a 115 lbs aikidoka vs a 200 lbs karateka and it would look ridiculous.
Piggy backing on some comments... size difference, no danger of actual physical harm, and no true intent on hitting. Swith the roles with size and intent and there may be a huge difference. Please stop misrepresenting your arts. The karate guy is not even trying and failing. The aiki guy is very underwhelmed and not taking the precautions he normally would if a more fierce opponent was avail. Just my opinion.
Perfect, Sport karate vs a grappling style such as aikijujutsu/aikido.... and against a much bigger guy ..... real Karate is more like krav maga-mma than this kids game known as sport karate
not a very fair demonstration. you were clearly holding back while he was free to proceed forward and hold/grab/throw/counter you. aikido has a very bad reputation in the west, despite the style clearly having very effective practitioners. it is because of its methodoloy of training. and videos like this --> ua-cam.com/video/PLP_DInpPHE/v-deo.html and this ua-cam.com/video/0KUXTC8g_pk/v-deo.html
the west seems to respect and believe in judo more than aikido.
Nonsensical... sport karate rules vs someone not following the rules??? Surely they should both follow same rules or the karate practitioner should be using all his karate skills and not the very limited sport karate techniques???
Looks kinda silly, like dad play fighting with his kids .... lets get big dude out of his pajamas and matched with equally sized MMA fighter. I suspect we'd be looking at something quite different.
The only way you can really test anything in striking vs grappling with light sparring is if the grappling guy is respecting the moves and back away when he’s touched realizing that he should be hurt when that happens.
This is not what happened here.
You attack and pull back your moves , he doesn’t care, keeps going forward like nothing happened and throws you.... obviously, when tested this way, the grappling tech will seem to be far stronger than it actually is.... he needs to respect the strikes that hit him or else this is worth nothing really
Such a crap, karate guy is trying to make points and aikido guy, who's much bigger, going all the way down. Aikido guy has no chance against a kickboxer of the same weight
Yusuke went so easy on him. I guess because those were his guest. You would of won.
the fact that your saying aiki is weak makes me laugh, even the aiki guy went easy on him
@@chrisdanny5180 I never said Aiki was weak.......I said Yusuke was not barely trying and would of won of he did.
I'm not that impressed tbh I feel like your opponent is so much larger he could do anything and it would probably still work especially when u consider it's a friendly sparing match with no real risk.
Interesting video tho 🙂
His face & head are wide open. If you're not going to train with punches & kicks to the face, how are you going to execute punches & kicks to the face or defend punches and kicks to the face? Which is especially important with an opponent who is bigger than you, where delivering a fight stopping blow to the body is far less likely than a fight stopping blow to the head.
Practical application of Aikido requires a sense of timing and a control of range few appreciate and far fewer possess. Most Aikido dojos/schools/etc do very little to provide students opportunities to develop these.
If a guy is that much bigger than you he can dictate the pace of the sparring. If you were big like him he'd have been much more cautious of how he use is Aiki-Jitsu.
I mean common that guy looked a giant compared to you.
Click bait video, so you get a downvote.
It's Aikido vs Karate .
Not Aiki Jujutsu.
That weight /size difference makes it ridiculous. The aiki guy just took you out with his bulk every time, there was very little technique to speak of.
There is confused comments here. This is not aikido but Aiki Jutsu which is very different. Sure size matters and since the karate attacks are not full of commitment this has a big effect. However the reality is that of a grappler can cross the range then he is in his element. This kind of video don’t demonstrate superiority of one art over another but distance control. I’m in awe of the karate instructor who keep exploring other arts with an open mind. Real martial spirit right there
I think the comment about not trying to land real hits is a good one. Another point is that fighting a taller bigger opponent is difficult, especially if the bigger person knows how to use his reach advantage. I think if the smaller guy was the one doing the aikijutsu and the bigger guy did karate, the result would be the same: The bigger guy would win, in this case, because he knows how to use his reach.
excuse me sir, but I think bullying is bad.. especially if he's 20 years younger than you XD
Though I call it "Tai Jitsu" the principles of Ju-Jutsu or Aikijustu are always present in my Karate training.
this was not an equal comparison with the height and weight disparities which also had an impact on the reach advantage as well. The Karate-Ka used a very limited skill set with the much bigger Aiki practitioner who maintained his skills with out any apprehensions as the Karate Ka presented no threat at all. We are taught as Martial Artist we use our minds and skills to break an opponent down regardless of the height, weight, age or gender, This exhibition worked to the opposite meaning with this it showed a smaller person need not even Practice Martial Arts to which I know from practical experience a small person can develop the skill set to break down even a skilled Martial Arts that may be a foot shorter and a hundred pounds lighter as I have seen it and lived it on many different occasions.
100% agree. Quite a pointless video.
Are you saying karate is useless against bigger opponent? Nonsense...
@@AikiTom76 No to the contrary Real Karate teaches us to use our entire body as a weapon. I was disappointed as to how this exhibition was staged, the Karate-Ka deployed a very limited skill set that never garnered any respect from his opponent. one of my closest friends stands at 5 foot 2 inches and my Dojo classmate of more than 35 years has taken down senior Blackbelts from many different Martial Arts disciplines with ease to include a skill set widely respected by all as he has mastered the ideology of Karate and the spirit Karate-Do. If you believed that the Karate-Ka provided a good representation of Karate you are sadly mistaken he fought to survive not to control his opponents weakness as the Aiki practitioner had plenty. In closing with more than 40 years as a Karate-Ka I will never believe that size is the overwhelming factor for any Martial Arts discipline. Skills are developed through quality teaching using theory and hands on applications to understand body alignment, speed, reach, timing, angles, body language are some of the elements that will contribute to success or failures in sports Martial Arts, or more importantly real life combat.
@philosophiz0r Clearly you either have very limited Martial Arts education or absolutely no eat all. If you think that the Karate-Ka presented a decent representation of Karate you are sadly mistaken. Allow me to help you understand if one is afraid at a season Blackbelt level to put his or her skills against another and even more so at a controlled level they are not worthy or that Dan (Blackbelt) plain and simple. By the way we all should live life with Honor.
To those that want to see how aikido is applied to street conditions instead of sparring/kumite, watch the videos aikidoflow. ua-cam.com/users/AikidoflowLondonvideos
The host is a bouncer/doorman at a club.
Clear as pure water Aiki-jujutsu guy does not know how to fight,with someone wanting to land the punches and kicks he was out in less than a minute.
Master merry cristmas master pls make video about shotokan karate tutorial video. I am waiting for tekki sandan tutorial video 🙏
The aikido guy was too big. I wonder if there may be difference if the opponent would be about your size.
2:15 is ippon. I mean it’s fun to watch you being tossed around by someone twice your size who has great balance but it seems somewhat pointless when your strikes land and you get taken off your feet in response.