that is so cool! first i thought there is anyway no subtitel.. so i was still watching in japanese like everytime 'xD. Great thing is that materialarts is an own language which i know! :) .. Thank you for all your work, i enjoy it so much. You feel like a part of my family, far away..
I hear you but I'd like to add my humble opinion that Karate (as it's popularised in the West) such as Shotokan is simply a branch of Jiu Jitsu as is Aikido as is Judo. I would consider them an advanced 'school' of Jiu Jitsu but I appreciate all martial arts for what they may bring and what you may learn. Pax
@@conmcgrath7174 Karate comes from Okinawa, having its' roots in White Crane Chinese martial art. It was developed as a Okinawan self-defense, for they had forbidden to carry weapons. Jujutsu, on the other hand, developed on mainland Japan as a softer martial art of Samurai, to disarm, hit vital points, dislocate... From Jujutsu; Judo, Jiu Jitsu and Aikido had birth - the latter also influenced by Daito-ryu.
@@theoldleafybeard Cheers 'Beard' (if I may call you that?). You are probably better informed than I. I made a broad statement and should have recognised the distinction between Okinawan Karate and the more mainstream styles so popularised in the west; Shotokan being a good example (there is a case made by some, that Shotokan is little more than an evolved military drill? I apologise now to practitioners of Shotokan everywhere, it's not my intention to cause offence). I do know of the historical ties between Okinawan karate and mainland China, that it is specific to the White Crane style exclusively, well, I'm just not qualified to give any reasonable opinion though I do believe it is likely. If I had my 'do-overs' I would love to explore both? It would be more than interesting to see where the separate styles merge and where they differ (and why?). Alas my misspent youth is, well, spent! Thanks for the reply and the gentle correction. Martial arts in general is a fascinating subject and so very much more if you engage with a pure heart. To all practitioners, my respect. I have a question relating to styles and an all too frequent 'blinkered approach' (like this is the only style and everybody else is wrong), it's this; is it the vehicle, is it the journey or is it the destination that is most important? Meantime, enjoy the trip! Respect and Pax vobiscum.
@@conmcgrath7174 Shotokan is a traditional Okinawan style 🙏⛩️. Many Karate schools today barely teach traditional Shotokan , it's all some watered down derivative mix of styles with a basic "Shotokan" base or other karate style. When I trained Shotokan in the 80s it took years and years to achieve belts. These days , you can be a black belt at 8-10 years old after a few years , which in my opinion is ridiculous. As mentioned previously , Jiu Jutsu has its roots based from the Samurai period as a method of close quarters and disarming methods . Both are beautiful and incredibly strong arts when used in combination. Cheers mate 😉🤘
I absolutely love these cross art exhibitions! The amount of control and respect between these two is paramount! They have a smile the entire time. They are both having fun and learning at the same time. This is what it's all about! There is no ego here. Both Sensei could easily go all out and risk injuring one another, but then there would be no winners. Another excellent video by this channel! Also, I appreciate the subtitles.
Congrats from Argentina. Respect, no ego of grand master or superiority involved, just two guys respectfully reviewing their form of fighting. Nice video. We need more of this type of attitude.
Depends.... Karate have it's roots deep in the chinese Martial Arts, specially about striking, while Ju-jitsu and it's "descendants" (like Judo and Aikido) are mainly throwing or submission moves. Yes, they're all japanese but their influences are different.
All of them are originally from china Judo as we know it Is Japanese judo Aikido jujitsu are also from china to The training methods are exactly what the shaolin monks used to practice B4 it bcame a tourism machine In china some still practice the style's that created these style's Mongolian wrestling still exists
Kara-Te is from Okinawa, not Japan. The Japanese didn't even know about it until it was introduced in 1922...700 years after it was developed in Okinawa (Uchina).
@@mactherealestateman Okinawa represent Japan or am I wrong?? Okinawa Mother Language are Japanese ?????Everything created in Okinawa is propriety of Japan if Karate are born in Okinawa is a Japanese Martial Arts.
@@mactherealestatemanKarate it's not Mainstream in Japan like Sumo, Jiu Jitsu or Judo tradicional martial arts Japanese until 1922 but is a Japan Martial arts too.
I am pretty impressed by how precise and accurate he is with his strikes. He can go pretty hard and fast and stop right before contact. Great control. 👍
that's actually a super important karate aspect, we spar at full speed with no protective gear, and most of the time everyone goes home without any serious injuries because every single move is controlled.
The problem for a Karateka sparring a Jiu-Jitsu guy is that the Karateka has to pull his strikes while the grappler can go full strength. In this kind of sparring, to make it more even, the grappler must respect the strikes potential to do damage and back off when strikes are thrown. This Jiu-Jitsu Sensei is pretty good at respecting the strikes which makes the sparing beneficial for both of them.
And every time a Jiu-Jitsu guy gets on his butt spreading his legs wide open is an invitation to give him a punch. This will never happen in a sparring of course. But will happen in a street fight. Karate guys however also have issues. Just like in any martial art which is practicing extensive leg strikes (Karate, Thekwondo), Karate guys often end up on the flow after trying to do a spinning hock kick. It is okay if the strike was successful and the opponent was knocked down. But it makes you a simple pray if you missed or if the fight is not one on one. Karate guys also keep their hands low leaving their head unprotected. This is not an issue in a spar with JJ guys, but is a serious flaw in a spar with another striker like a boxer or a Muai Thai practitioner.
@@Alex-kr1eg Karate guys can hold that hands low because of the extended distance between opponents. With a closer distance, the hands should go up. Mr. Machado is a Karate guy, but for a long time fighting in the UFC, he was hit fewer times than anyone else.
@@donelmore2540 This is actually a great point. A large part about styles that use a lot of kicks is that the ideal distance would be further and make a lower guard necessary. It's funny actually, in older bare knuckle boxing, they so used lower guards since body shots were typical compared to head hits.
@@skyereave9454 Thanks! Back in the day, I would do Jiyu Kumite with my middle level, Chudan, well protected and over the course of sparring I would slowly open up a Chudan target. When my opponent went for the opening, I would counter before they got their attack off. People thought I was really fast, but really they just took the bait I dangled in front of them. LOL
Says every karate guy ever. But the thing is, punchers rarely land hard strikes on a grappler. They always try to hit them as they close, but as any grappler will tell you, those strikes rarely hurt very much, because for a punch to hurt it has to extend, and it will never extend to the right distance because the grappler is closing too fast for that to work. Every puncher thinks he is going to just knock out a grappler when the grappler closes, but every time the puncher ends up on his back, getting choked out or submitted. If MMA has proven anything, it's that you can't get by on just one set of techniques: every grappler should learn to strike, and every striker needs to at least learn the basics of grappling and submissions. Otherwise you're just begging to get choked out or submitted.
I love these videos. It's refreshing to see respect between masters of different disciplines. We never stop learning. Everyone should be happy with our contribution to our chosen art.
I find it absolutely amazing how these two "exchange pointers" and it's like two kids sharing candy. I also love how Tatsuya Naka always smiles when he gives instructions to his students (in other videos). It must be awesome to learn from this man. What a wonderful talent!
I love these videos. I am also a shotokan practitioner (JKA). In my dojo we also spar with other martial arts like judo, ju jitsu & taekwondo (their dojos are in the same building). It’s very important for karatekas to know what techniques to use against each of the art.
They make some great (valuable teaching) points on how you adjust your standard technique when you get in close, especially against another experienced fighter. I love the comments about Kata. So many people today dismiss the value of it ( a whole discussion in & of itself). Going hard for long periods of times, doing multiple Kata one right after another makes you a better martial artist & if nothing else keeps you in shape.
I can't really understand this "f*** the kata" attitude that is so prevalent nowadays. One of the main reasons I love Karate is because the katas and the bunkai and history behind them. It's just plain frickin' awesome.
I agree. Kata are terrific as a library of moves. Which techniques someone gets good at and uses for sparring will depend on experience, body type, and even who they have been training against. I liked how Tatsuya Sensei comments that he realized an application for a kata movement that he didn't see earlier. When you study kata this relationship becomes fairly common.
Whatever you think about the karate, he's very well controlled too. He's someone you could spar with pretty heavy without really worrying about too many accidents, if he did that. I'm a Kyokushin guy, we do it a bit differently but he's VERY controlled, VERY responsible - incredibly respectful.. lovely to see this is still around.. OSU
Vídeo incrível. Dois verdadeiros Mestres que deixaram os seus egos lá fora, que se respeitam e se admiram mutuamente. Uma verdadeira lufada de ar fresco! Muito agradecido!
I really enjoy comparing how this karate sensei reacts to the jiu jitsu sensei with how other styles of karate might respond to the same situations. It's very interesting that you can have so many similarities in the art between the karate styles, but the different mindsets/approaches/strategies to the fight make the styles distinct.
@@drowjack karate na verdade tem influencia do kung fu chines em okinawa acho que samurais so fariam ju jitsu que é tipo aikido, judo e jiu mas devia ter uns socos e chutes
Most in this comment section have no earthly idea who he is. They're talking about "just jab the BJJ guy in the eye". LMAO. Oh, how truly ignorant they are...
The respect and sincerity is very humbling and a feel-good vibe. They are genuinely interested in learning and exploring and trading and sharing ideas. Not just trying to dunk on each other.
I train both and would say the combination is best. Karate for stand up striking and jiu-jitsu if the fight goes to the ground. Like Yin and Yang the two complete each other.
I like this very much. Excellent sportsmanship and technical discussion. You don't see too may pure striker vs. pure grappler matchups anymore, because historically the grapplers always won and the sport of Mixed Martial Arts has grown into what it is because of that. Now everyone is proficient in both striking and grappling techniques.
It's really amazing to watch the evolution of MMA. It started out with pure grapplers dominating the sport. Then you've got the strikers with good take down defence dominating after that. And then you've got guys that are well rounded at everything (which IMO got a bit boring). Now it seems you've got to be both well rounded AND a master at one aspect.
@@anastasiya256 There is more japanese ju-jutsu outside of Japan than in it. It is much bigger in Europe than in Japan. In Japan they train judo or BJJ.
I always thought traditional Okinawan karate would be a good all-around base, Shotokan for distance management and explosive movement, and Jiu-Jitsu for grappling and ground fighting.
@@davida.rosales6025 That isn't true at all. You can do submissions staying as well. Karate on the other hand is pretty much useless. I did both for 3 years.
"Karate is pretty much useless" are words spoken by someone that has either trained at a poor dojo, hasn't trained hard enough, or simply not trained long enough. It's not the art to blame. BJJ is a sport that is not one of the best for self-defence. Judo is far superior for the street. @@scmsean
@@Kthomasritchie If you are doing striking then you have to practice striking. That means hitting someone and getting hit. How many karate studios aren't just kicking and punching air? 1 on 1 there is nothing better then BJJ. MMA has proven that. No one enters the cage without training in BJJ. Almost 0 of them enter with karate. Again multiple people, you are pretty much screwed with any of them.
Excelente video. La verdad que la velocidad las técnicas el respeto y ambas disciplinas me parecieron excelentes. Felicitaciones tienes demasiado profesionalismo. 👏👏👏💪💪💪. Literalmente están muy entrenados. Mis respetos desde Argentina.
What an excellent video and the answer is one on one in a fight situation the BJJ athlete will most likely grab on and submit even the best karate fighter, but in the street where there could be multiple people involved the last place you want to finish up is on the ground, getting a sucker punch or kick to the head. Karate is the better defence in a scramble, there are some beautiful fast techniques in this video and as always the best strategy, throw 100% and run away, absolutely no shame in surviving and not getting hurt. Young people today don't specialise in a single combat sport, if you learn BJJ as a child go join a boxing or kick boxing club and feel what it is like to get punched and kicked and vice versa.
I think that doing some sparring with taekkyeon rules as a drill would help fighters kick without being taken down. They win with a kick to the head or a takedown, and they aren't allowed to retreat while facing their opponents. This makes them able to fight up close, and they have to kick and rechamber quickly or the opponent will catch their leg and take them down.
Great video. This a really to share experience and knowledges, between two different martial arts. I really like the respect between the two increidibles masters. Two legends. Osu!!
Back in my time as a Jiu jitsuka, practicing floor fight, either from standing or kneeling to ground fight, i would often do as this guy. Take a defensive "submissive" posture by lying down. It may seem as a vulnerable position (and it can be) but it can also have it's benefits.
I'd say that would be 50/50. If Nakai manages to grapple Naka, the fight is quikcly over. But I can see Naka delivering a lot of powerful punches and front kicks to Nakai so fast he cannot react.
@@wallyllaw haha! Not a chance. Nakai is a world class striker. He’s fought some of the greatest legends of MMA and won. He’s not just a Jiu-Jitsu guy, he’s a respected, well rounded fighter in the class of the most elite.
Frankly, I wouldn't underestimate the timing/distance management of accomplished orthodox karate guys. It's easy to say Nakai would win for sure, but actually fighting is another thing entirely. Besides that, it's not about "real" or not, and those distinctions aren't necessarily helpful as they are overly vague. What is real? In a ring, with rules, referees, and a commonality of training principles? Because friendly sparring also occurs in reality, it simply has a different context which has other limitations and goals. In a bareknuckle, violent fight (Say, over a woman's love) with no rules, it's almost impossible to say who would "really" win, and it's not even a particularly valuable question.
😎👍 so you did face a JJ master. Nice video, it shows the strengths and weaknesses of karate and JiuJitsu. And to eliminate them you just need to practice both striking and grappling. Very educational video my friend.
This was my same experience when I first began studying jiu jitsu 15 years ago. I came in as a 3rd degree TKD black belt and my skills were of no help. I just got taken to the ground and that was the end of me. I have the utmost respect for Tatsuya Naka as a martial artist. He is honest and always wants to learn.
that moment at 2:46 I was grinning because that's the setup for 1 of the few takedowns from the ground I know, not many ground techniques in Chinese martial arts, but that's 1 of them.
Some of the monkey (mine happens to be one) and ape styles have full complements of ground grappling. There is a python system. Some branches of chin na are ground based. Shaio jaio is of course a full on throwing system like judo. Fukian has a complement of throws and take downs from the ground though mostly a ground and pound, it gave rise to the "rising and falling" style which is was similar to jujitsu. It is rarer these days, some of the reasons are cultural, some nationalistic (to avoid looking like Japanese methods), there was the great lose of styles around the cultural revolution and Japanese occupation. Much like Karate and TKD which had a complement of ground skills up to the mid 1900's when it's focus shifted mostly to stand up, these sunsets have mostly been ignored or forgotten. BJJ it self is something of an anomaly with it's extreme focus ground submissions even among grappling arts. Most Chinese grappling is going to be closer to Judo, catch or sambo.
It's not a matter of who wins in a 1 vs 1 (most times it'll be jiu jitsu), but a matter of what each style has to offer. Jiu jitsu does not by any means provide everything karate does combat wise
Japan culture is so advanced. impressive how they respect each others. we westerns dont show that at arena combat. we just want to see who is the strongest and bla bla.
He is not using Judo. He is only using Judo's newaza which now is marketed as 'jiujitsu' , if Judo was used as soon as a Karateka comes close then they would get thrown easily then submitted in newaza. No self respecting Judoka uses the Inoki vs Ali technique.
@@rangelo8908 Judokas are too afraid to even train anything other than their funny little form of japanese wrestling (which is marketed as "judo") so there really isn't any chance that any judoka is going to a real fight.
I feel like one reason that BJJ guys have the advantage because every guy can throw a haymaker but most people don't know grappling beyond a rugby tackle. Give a good BJJ guy a month of striking and he's pretty dangerous... Or give a karate black belt a couple months of grappling and he's not bad either. As a karate black belt, I've been training in BJJ for the last 2 months. Today I just beat a 4 stripe white belt in points (if you know the main positions that's enough). But then I had to tap cuz my ear started bleeding (got a small tear from the scrambles).
Exactly why I enjoy the. Combined practice of taekwondo and judo combined with Hapkido. But without full contact, Karate is at a disadvantage, and if any grappler goes to the ground, well in real world, just walk away….
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that is so cool! first i thought there is anyway no subtitel.. so i was still watching in japanese like everytime 'xD. Great thing is that materialarts is an own language which i know! :) .. Thank you for all your work, i enjoy it so much. You feel like a part of my family, far away..
Is it possible to come to you for training
Estoy muy agradecido con ustedes.
Gracias!!
A Karate vs oldschool Judo take could be very interesting too, with a lot of standing work.
Thanks for your enormous work!
One can easily notice they're not only masters, but utterly noble and respectful warriors.
I can notice the heartfulness here.
One of them is former MMA fighter
@@malakatan3235 Nonsense. neither of them is treating this as a 'survival situation', so what you see is pure ART, not reality.
I practice both styles and love them equally. Both styles are great to learn together. Striking + Grappling = a better martial arts.
I hear you but I'd like to add my humble opinion that Karate (as it's popularised in the West) such as Shotokan is simply a branch of Jiu Jitsu as is Aikido as is Judo. I would consider them an advanced 'school' of Jiu Jitsu but I appreciate all martial arts for what they may bring and what you may learn.
Pax
@@conmcgrath7174 Karate comes from Okinawa, having its' roots in White Crane Chinese martial art. It was developed as a Okinawan self-defense, for they had forbidden to carry weapons.
Jujutsu, on the other hand, developed on mainland Japan as a softer martial art of Samurai, to disarm, hit vital points, dislocate... From Jujutsu; Judo, Jiu Jitsu and Aikido had birth - the latter also influenced by Daito-ryu.
@@theoldleafybeard Cheers 'Beard' (if I may call you that?). You are probably better informed than I. I made a broad statement and should have recognised the distinction between Okinawan Karate and the more mainstream styles so popularised in the west; Shotokan being a good example (there is a case made by some, that Shotokan is little more than an evolved military drill? I apologise now to practitioners of Shotokan everywhere, it's not my intention to cause offence).
I do know of the historical ties between Okinawan karate and mainland China, that it is specific to the White Crane style exclusively, well, I'm just not qualified to give any reasonable opinion though I do believe it is likely.
If I had my 'do-overs' I would love to explore both? It would be more than interesting to see where the separate styles merge and where they differ (and why?).
Alas my misspent youth is, well, spent!
Thanks for the reply and the gentle correction.
Martial arts in general is a fascinating subject and so very much more if you engage with a pure heart.
To all practitioners, my respect. I have a question relating to styles and an all too frequent 'blinkered approach' (like this is the only style and everybody else is wrong), it's this; is it the vehicle, is it the journey or is it the destination that is most important?
Meantime, enjoy the trip!
Respect and Pax vobiscum.
@@conmcgrath7174 Shotokan is a traditional Okinawan style 🙏⛩️.
Many Karate schools today barely teach traditional Shotokan , it's all some watered down derivative mix of styles with a basic "Shotokan" base or other karate style.
When I trained Shotokan in the 80s it took years and years to achieve belts.
These days , you can be a black belt at 8-10 years old after a few years , which in my opinion is ridiculous.
As mentioned previously , Jiu Jutsu has its roots based from the Samurai period as a method of close quarters and disarming methods .
Both are beautiful and incredibly strong arts when used in combination.
Cheers mate 😉🤘
@@GUARDIANA01 I hear you, the days when a black belt actually meant something have been spoiled by 'mc-dojo's' and belts for sale.
Respect and Pax
The respect between them is more powerful than their techniques.
良いこと言うねぇ〜
The Founder of Yoseikan did all Japanese styles and some Chinese Kung fu aswell as Western boxing.
FACTS 💯
🙊🙊
it's more politeness than respect
Yuki Nakai was one of the best fighters I've ever seen for his size back in his day. A true legend!
Indeed. The guy fought heavywheights, truly brave
I absolutely love these cross art exhibitions! The amount of control and respect between these two is paramount! They have a smile the entire time. They are both having fun and learning at the same time. This is what it's all about! There is no ego here. Both Sensei could easily go all out and risk injuring one another, but then there would be no winners.
Another excellent video by this channel! Also, I appreciate the subtitles.
The amount of respect between them is proportional to their martial arts skills.
Congrats from Argentina. Respect, no ego of grand master or superiority involved, just two guys respectfully reviewing their form of fighting. Nice video. We need more of this type of attitude.
Karate, Judo, Jiu Jitsu, Aikido are all Japanese martial arts and they are like brothers it's nice see these Masters training together.
Depends.... Karate have it's roots deep in the chinese Martial Arts, specially about striking, while Ju-jitsu and it's "descendants" (like Judo and Aikido) are mainly throwing or submission moves.
Yes, they're all japanese but their influences are different.
All of them are originally from china
Judo as we know it
Is
Japanese judo
Aikido jujitsu are also from china to
The training methods are exactly what the shaolin monks used to practice
B4 it bcame a tourism machine
In china some still practice the style's that created these style's
Mongolian wrestling still exists
Kara-Te is from Okinawa, not Japan. The Japanese didn't even know about it until it was introduced in 1922...700 years after it was developed in Okinawa (Uchina).
@@mactherealestateman Okinawa represent Japan or am I wrong?? Okinawa Mother Language are Japanese ?????Everything created in Okinawa is propriety of Japan if Karate are born in Okinawa is a Japanese Martial Arts.
@@mactherealestatemanKarate it's not Mainstream in Japan like Sumo, Jiu Jitsu or Judo tradicional martial arts Japanese until 1922 but is a Japan Martial arts too.
I am pretty impressed by how precise and accurate he is with his strikes. He can go pretty hard and fast and stop right before contact. Great control. 👍
everyone can punch hard controll takes skill
that's actually a super important karate aspect, we spar at full speed with no protective gear, and most of the time everyone goes home without any serious injuries because every single move is controlled.
he's a master not a mere practitioner :)
The problem for a Karateka sparring a Jiu-Jitsu guy is that the Karateka has to pull his strikes while the grappler can go full strength. In this kind of sparring, to make it more even, the grappler must respect the strikes potential to do damage and back off when strikes are thrown. This Jiu-Jitsu Sensei is pretty good at respecting the strikes which makes the sparing beneficial for both of them.
And every time a Jiu-Jitsu guy gets on his butt spreading his legs wide open is an invitation to give him a punch. This will never happen in a sparring of course. But will happen in a street fight. Karate guys however also have issues. Just like in any martial art which is practicing extensive leg strikes (Karate, Thekwondo), Karate guys often end up on the flow after trying to do a spinning hock kick. It is okay if the strike was successful and the opponent was knocked down. But it makes you a simple pray if you missed or if the fight is not one on one. Karate guys also keep their hands low leaving their head unprotected. This is not an issue in a spar with JJ guys, but is a serious flaw in a spar with another striker like a boxer or a Muai Thai practitioner.
@@Alex-kr1eg Karate guys can hold that hands low because of the extended distance between opponents. With a closer distance, the hands should go up. Mr. Machado is a Karate guy, but for a long time fighting in the UFC, he was hit fewer times than anyone else.
@@donelmore2540 This is actually a great point. A large part about styles that use a lot of kicks is that the ideal distance would be further and make a lower guard necessary. It's funny actually, in older bare knuckle boxing, they so used lower guards since body shots were typical compared to head hits.
@@skyereave9454 Thanks! Back in the day, I would do Jiyu Kumite with my middle level, Chudan, well protected and over the course of sparring I would slowly open up a Chudan target. When my opponent went for the opening, I would counter before they got their attack off. People thought I was really fast, but really they just took the bait I dangled in front of them. LOL
Says every karate guy ever. But the thing is, punchers rarely land hard strikes on a grappler. They always try to hit them as they close, but as any grappler will tell you, those strikes rarely hurt very much, because for a punch to hurt it has to extend, and it will never extend to the right distance because the grappler is closing too fast for that to work. Every puncher thinks he is going to just knock out a grappler when the grappler closes, but every time the puncher ends up on his back, getting choked out or submitted. If MMA has proven anything, it's that you can't get by on just one set of techniques: every grappler should learn to strike, and every striker needs to at least learn the basics of grappling and submissions. Otherwise you're just begging to get choked out or submitted.
I love these videos. It's refreshing to see respect between masters of different disciplines. We never stop learning. Everyone should be happy with our contribution to our chosen art.
I find it absolutely amazing how these two "exchange pointers" and it's like two kids sharing candy. I also love how Tatsuya Naka always smiles when he gives instructions to his students (in other videos). It must be awesome to learn from this man. What a wonderful talent!
Always one of my favorite UA-cam channels.
"This is known as the Inoki vs. Ali form."
Lol, good sense of humor on that guy.
Agree. Great reference to a classic fight! Of course, it was only the restrictive rules that made Inoki fight that way.
The classic striker vs grappler matchup, seen it a thousand times but its still somehow so interesting to watch
I love these videos. I am also a shotokan practitioner (JKA). In my dojo we also spar with other martial arts like judo, ju jitsu & taekwondo (their dojos are in the same building). It’s very important for karatekas to know what techniques to use against each of the art.
They make some great (valuable teaching) points on how you adjust your standard technique when you get in close, especially against another experienced fighter. I love the comments about Kata. So many people today dismiss the value of it ( a whole discussion in & of itself). Going hard for long periods of times, doing multiple Kata one right after another makes you a better martial artist & if nothing else keeps you in shape.
I can't really understand this "f*** the kata" attitude that is so prevalent nowadays. One of the main reasons I love Karate is because the katas and the bunkai and history behind them. It's just plain frickin' awesome.
I agree. Kata are terrific as a library of moves. Which techniques someone gets good at and uses for sparring will depend on experience, body type, and even who they have been training against. I liked how Tatsuya Sensei comments that he realized an application for a kata movement that he didn't see earlier. When you study kata this relationship becomes fairly common.
Whatever you think about the karate, he's very well controlled too. He's someone you could spar with pretty heavy without really worrying about too many accidents, if he did that. I'm a Kyokushin guy, we do it a bit differently but he's VERY controlled, VERY responsible - incredibly respectful.. lovely to see this is still around.. OSU
Vídeo incrível. Dois verdadeiros Mestres que deixaram os seus egos lá fora, que se respeitam e se admiram mutuamente. Uma verdadeira lufada de ar fresco! Muito agradecido!
That was a lot of fun to watch. Great experts at their styles having fun with each other!
こういう立ち会いは組技側はタップされるまで本気出せるけど、立ち技側はケガさせる気で打ち込むわけにいかないというのが難しいですよね
お二方が本気で仲悪かったらより興味深い対決になりそうです
Yuki Nakai and Sensei Naka!! Two legends!! BJJ and Karate are unstoppable together!! Osu!!
As duas artes marciais são incríveis, tanto o karatê como o jiu-jitsu são sem igual, a eficiência existe nas técnicas de ambas as lutas
Concordo
I really enjoy comparing how this karate sensei reacts to the jiu jitsu sensei with how other styles of karate might respond to the same situations. It's very interesting that you can have so many similarities in the art between the karate styles, but the different mindsets/approaches/strategies to the fight make the styles distinct.
Sem dúvida ,essa apresentação de técnicas de estilos de lutas diferentes nos traz uma visão de respeito de cada modalidade. Oss
Falou tudo,osu...
The real way to compare the 2 of them. I cannot stop comming back to rewatch this
Such a good video! What a constructive and insightful comparison. One of my favorite parts about martial arts is that there is always more to learn.
Sou praticamente das duas artes, Karate e Jiu jitsu. É uma combinação perfeita!
Oss
So falta o Kendo pra voce se tornar um Samurai
@@drowjack karate na verdade tem influencia do kung fu chines em okinawa acho que samurais so fariam ju jitsu que é tipo aikido, judo e jiu mas devia ter uns socos e chutes
Sakuraba solved the Inoki situation back in Pride when fought Royler Gracie. Just kick his legs to the point he can't maintain his open guard anymore
Yuki Nakai the legend who fought in a last man standing tournament with one eye and made it to the finals
Exactly!! This guy is a samurai!
Yuki Nakai fight with Rickson Gracie cemented BJJ here in Japan.
Yuki Nakai! Never going to be a balanced fight if Yuki Nakai is on the other side. He's a true martial arts fighting master.
Most in this comment section have no earthly idea who he is. They're talking about "just jab the BJJ guy in the eye". LMAO. Oh, how truly ignorant they are...
The respect and sincerity is very humbling and a feel-good vibe. They are genuinely interested in learning and exploring and trading and sharing ideas. Not just trying to dunk on each other.
I train both and would say the combination is best. Karate for stand up striking and jiu-jitsu if the fight goes to the ground. Like Yin and Yang the two complete each other.
I like this very much. Excellent sportsmanship and technical discussion.
You don't see too may pure striker vs. pure grappler matchups anymore, because historically the grapplers always won and the sport of Mixed Martial Arts has grown into what it is because of that. Now everyone is proficient in both striking and grappling techniques.
It's really amazing to watch the evolution of MMA. It started out with pure grapplers dominating the sport. Then you've got the strikers with good take down defence dominating after that. And then you've got guys that are well rounded at everything (which IMO got a bit boring). Now it seems you've got to be both well rounded AND a master at one aspect.
Amazing demeanor showing humbleness, respect for each others discipline and that their still students in life
Many thanks about 25 lnaguages subtitles, now can understand and learn with your videos.
Imagine if Karate and BJJ practioners interacted like this more often in other parts of the world.
It's nice knowing it's at least possible though!
Lyoto Machida 😁
Fearless Martial Arts in west grove pa teaches this.
It’s not Brazilian Jiu-jitsu … this is from Japan, so it’s gotta be Japanese Jiu-jitsu…
@@anastasiya256 There is more japanese ju-jutsu outside of Japan than in it. It is much bigger in Europe than in Japan. In Japan they train judo or BJJ.
I'm a big fan of Yuki Nakai. Much respect sir!
this was one of the best videos ive ever seen, thanks for this what a fun experiment by two pros
What a compilation, mind-blowing theories and thought! Grand manner of improving to occasions 🙏🕊️☯️
👍👍True Budo. They not want to hurt but learning from each other. No ego, no ill intention, no politics. True martial spirit.
Nakai-sensei is truly an inspiring jiujitsuka.🙏
I always thought traditional Okinawan karate would be a good all-around base, Shotokan for distance management and explosive movement, and Jiu-Jitsu for grappling and ground fighting.
You are spot-on! I’ve trained in Shito-Ryu for over 15 years.
Except BJJ is only good on the floor, completely on the floor lying on top of one another, but it sucks in all other grappling positions and angles.
@@davida.rosales6025 That isn't true at all. You can do submissions staying as well.
Karate on the other hand is pretty much useless. I did both for 3 years.
"Karate is pretty much useless" are words spoken by someone that has either trained at a poor dojo, hasn't trained hard enough, or simply not trained long enough. It's not the art to blame.
BJJ is a sport that is not one of the best for self-defence. Judo is far superior for the street.
@@scmsean
@@Kthomasritchie If you are doing striking then you have to practice striking. That means hitting someone and getting hit. How many karate studios aren't just kicking and punching air?
1 on 1 there is nothing better then BJJ. MMA has proven that. No one enters the cage without training in BJJ. Almost 0 of them enter with karate.
Again multiple people, you are pretty much screwed with any of them.
Beautiful video. Two masters playing and showing off their styles.
I like as they are talking and explaining..
they're like
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😂😉👍
Excelente video. La verdad que la velocidad las técnicas el respeto y ambas disciplinas me parecieron excelentes. Felicitaciones tienes demasiado profesionalismo. 👏👏👏💪💪💪. Literalmente están muy entrenados. Mis respetos desde Argentina.
Obrigado por colocar legenda em português 🇧🇷
Two experts in their chosen arts, sharing knowledge. I enjoy it, well done.
What an excellent video and the answer is one on one in a fight situation the BJJ athlete will most likely grab on and submit even the best karate fighter, but in the street where there could be multiple people involved the last place you want to finish up is on the ground, getting a sucker punch or kick to the head. Karate is the better defence in a scramble, there are some beautiful fast techniques in this video and as always the best strategy, throw 100% and run away, absolutely no shame in surviving and not getting hurt.
Young people today don't specialise in a single combat sport, if you learn BJJ as a child go join a boxing or kick boxing club and feel what it is like to get punched and kicked and vice versa.
I think that doing some sparring with taekkyeon rules as a drill would help fighters kick without being taken down.
They win with a kick to the head or a takedown, and they aren't allowed to retreat while facing their opponents. This makes them able to fight up close, and they have to kick and rechamber quickly or the opponent will catch their leg and take them down.
This is great, I love this. All respect and a genuine desire to experience each other's style.
Great video. This a really to share experience and knowledges, between two different martial arts. I really like the respect between the two increidibles masters. Two legends. Osu!!
Easily the best video on UA-cam
Back in my time as a Jiu jitsuka, practicing floor fight, either from standing or kneeling to ground fight, i would often do as this guy. Take a defensive "submissive" posture by lying down. It may seem as a vulnerable position (and it can be) but it can also have it's benefits.
Yuki Nakai is an absolute legend. No doubt he would dominate this fight if it were for real.
Probably. Nakas only chance would be by knocking him out in timing like Lyoto did sometimes.
I'd say that would be 50/50. If Nakai manages to grapple Naka, the fight is quikcly over. But I can see Naka delivering a lot of powerful punches and front kicks to Nakai so fast he cannot react.
@@wallyllaw haha! Not a chance. Nakai is a world class striker. He’s fought some of the greatest legends of MMA and won. He’s not just a Jiu-Jitsu guy, he’s a respected, well rounded fighter in the class of the most elite.
The real issue here is not about style or skills, but actual fighting knowledge
Frankly, I wouldn't underestimate the timing/distance management of accomplished orthodox karate guys. It's easy to say Nakai would win for sure, but actually fighting is another thing entirely.
Besides that, it's not about "real" or not, and those distinctions aren't necessarily helpful as they are overly vague. What is real? In a ring, with rules, referees, and a commonality of training principles? Because friendly sparring also occurs in reality, it simply has a different context which has other limitations and goals. In a bareknuckle, violent fight (Say, over a woman's love) with no rules, it's almost impossible to say who would "really" win, and it's not even a particularly valuable question.
😎👍 so you did face a JJ master. Nice video, it shows the strengths and weaknesses of karate and JiuJitsu. And to eliminate them you just need to practice both striking and grappling. Very educational video my friend.
Wow! I love this. Thank you guys!
やはり圧倒的に空手ですねー🥳
Sensei good stuff....Thank you.
Nice channel Nice sparring
I love it!!
良い動画ですね😂 フォローさせていただきました！
Parabens dois mestres incriveis karate e jiu jitsu
Fantastic gentlemen 🙌🙏
This was my same experience when I first began studying jiu jitsu 15 years ago. I came in as a 3rd degree TKD black belt and my skills were of no help. I just got taken to the ground and that was the end of me. I have the utmost respect for Tatsuya Naka as a martial artist. He is honest and always wants to learn.
that moment at 2:46 I was grinning because that's the setup for 1 of the few takedowns from the ground I know, not many ground techniques in Chinese martial arts, but that's 1 of them.
There is fully array of ground techniques in CMA. Just not as well known as the stricking arts.
@@ehisey in which style please?
Some of the monkey (mine happens to be one) and ape styles have full complements of ground grappling. There is a python system. Some branches of chin na are ground based. Shaio jaio is of course a full on throwing system like judo. Fukian has a complement of throws and take downs from the ground though mostly a ground and pound, it gave rise to the "rising and falling" style which is was similar to jujitsu. It is rarer these days, some of the reasons are cultural, some nationalistic (to avoid looking like Japanese methods), there was the great lose of styles around the cultural revolution and Japanese occupation. Much like Karate and TKD which had a complement of ground skills up to the mid 1900's when it's focus shifted mostly to stand up, these sunsets have mostly been ignored or forgotten. BJJ it self is something of an anomaly with it's extreme focus ground submissions even among grappling arts. Most Chinese grappling is going to be closer to Judo, catch or sambo.
quanta riqueza em um só vídeo, bom demais! oss.
ほんとそれな！
@@ichiromurata9054 oss!
Nice video, thanks
Всегда приятно видеть работу двух Мастеров!
それな！
Was a fun video to watch. That said, the question of Karate vs Jiu Jitsu, is one that's been effectively solved for decades now.
It's not a matter of who wins in a 1 vs 1 (most times it'll be jiu jitsu), but a matter of what each style has to offer.
Jiu jitsu does not by any means provide everything karate does combat wise
Japan culture is so advanced. impressive how they respect each others. we westerns dont show that at arena combat. we just want to see who is the strongest and bla bla.
A questão é a rapidez de cada lutador, esse mestre de karatê é muito bom, muito rápido, os golpes dele são fortes
Un saludo desde México, muy buena enseñanza en ambos estilos.
muito bom... obrigado 👏👏👏
グラップラー対ストライカーは誰もが想像した事ある夢の戦い
amazing, two killers sharing information to spread love and knowledge
And that's why both skills are needed in a real fight. Very nice guys. Great video.
번역 감사합니다
흥미로운 영상이에요😊
The guy writing around on the floor gets stomped between the legs in the groin by the guy standing up, game over...
I think we all already know "what will happen", so I'll pass on watching thank you 👌
Nakai grande lenda do jiu jitsu e o karateca é muito inteligente
Witam was dużo czasu pracy i wysiłku poświęciliście by nabrać takich umiejętności jakie macie gratuluje wam 🤝
A truly interesting exchange. Thanks.
Muito bom o vídeo.
Karatê e Jiu-jtsu são duas artes marciais eficazes.
Osu!
10:43 絞め技に喜ぶ中先生かわいいww
2:56
Nuts are wide open for a trampling!
Дякую Вам шановнi майстри!)))
中井先生が「じぶんより優れたストライカーには打てない」ってサラリと言っていたのが印象的でした。
そこでぶつかっては勝てないので、ちゃんと認めることで勝機を見出すわけですね！勉強になります！
Thanks for the translation but would be nice
To see them try
You can only train this with full protection… and then push together… 🔥✌️😎✌️🍀
The cameraman seemed to *really* enjoy that one.
It would be good to see Sensei Naka's fighting stance on a judoka.
He is not using Judo. He is only using Judo's newaza which now is marketed as 'jiujitsu' , if Judo was used as soon as a Karateka comes close then they would get thrown easily then submitted in newaza. No self respecting Judoka uses the Inoki vs Ali technique.
@@rangelo8908 he’s also a Judo black belt.
@@reefhog Who? Nakai? I know but he's not using his Judo at all here.
@@rangelo8908 Judokas are too afraid to even train anything other than their funny little form of japanese wrestling (which is marketed as "judo") so there really isn't any chance that any judoka is going to a real fight.
@@JoriMikke78 You're obviously the casual of casuals.
Naka actually knows some basics of grappling. That was a nice sprawl he did
I feel like one reason that BJJ guys have the advantage because every guy can throw a haymaker but most people don't know grappling beyond a rugby tackle. Give a good BJJ guy a month of striking and he's pretty dangerous... Or give a karate black belt a couple months of grappling and he's not bad either. As a karate black belt, I've been training in BJJ for the last 2 months. Today I just beat a 4 stripe white belt in points (if you know the main positions that's enough). But then I had to tap cuz my ear started bleeding (got a small tear from the scrambles).
Exactly why I enjoy the. Combined practice of taekwondo and judo combined with Hapkido. But without full contact, Karate is at a disadvantage, and if any grappler goes to the ground, well in real world, just walk away….
damn thats a really big and nice dojo
Never thought I'd see grappling legend Yuki Nakai on here
ESO HACE LO BELLO DE LAS ARTES MARCIALES SUS DIFERENTES TÉCNICAS Y CONOCIMIENTO EN LA PRÁCTICA.
FELICITACIONES 👍👍
凄い世界ですね🤩🤩🤩