Both receive the biggest fund of the exact same group. The vanguard group (don't believe me, google it). Instead of giving ur money in the left hand, u now give it in their right hand. You actually think these companies are competing? If they actually were, then 1 would buyout the other, or 1 would go bankrupt after such a loss, but they don't. This way they can control the market with a duopoly. Why do u think 99% of the wealth lies with 1% of the people?
@@ike789125 AMD has far from “perfected” the 7nm architecture. You could probably squeeze like 2x more performance out of it, but they’re going to see huge diminishing returns on time spent vs IPC improvements. This is what Intel is currently doing with their 14nm and 10nm chips, but look where that’s got them. They’ve spent so long on 14nm that they forgot they can get the same IPC improvements faster by moving to a smaller node. AMD realized this so they jumped the gun on 7nm (and are about to go to 5nm), and they’re really reaping the benefits right now.
@@stairfall12345678900 They didn't forget they just can't figure out how to get past 14nm. I also agree with you about AMD not perfecting 7nm. I mean they've only just now beat intel even though intel is still a node behind.
For real. This is the first time I've seen people crediting a CEO with a company's success, and thought it was actually warranted. Dr Su saved that company damn near single handedly
@@HotShame0 Technically, it is safe to say that Lisa Su's own grandfather is actually Jen-Hsun Huang's uncle. Although they aren't really niece and uncles, they are very close relatives. taken from www.techtimes.com/articles/253736/20201030/fact-check-nvidia-ceo-uncle-amds-dr-lisa-su.htm
Scalpers out in force on eBay £510 CPUs for £850. And they are putting things like "high in queue will despatch when it arrives" and "order accepted at retailer". They don't even have a guaranteed delivery let alone a date. These people make me angry.
@@darthvalkyr scalpers piss me off too. Especially with stuff like this. Peoples livelyhoods can quite often depend on them getting these parts as soon as possible. When the nintendo switch launched, I checked every retailer within 200 miles of my house, and no one had it. I ended up paying $430(the cheapest I could find. Most were asking around $550) to a scalper that was also trying to scalp copies of Breathe of the Wild, which didn't even have stock issues. With a game console it's not the end of the world. It's still scummy as all hell, but whatever. You can always just wait for stock to come in. With serious hardware like this, it's infuriating. Someone's ability to effectively do there job can be seriously hindered by these assholes.
Me too We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry
Best to wait to see what next year brings before you make that statement. Pc building is always here and now. Next year intel can slam amd with a comeback and price slash.
Good on AMD! I will show my age here, but I remember the good old days in early 2000s when AMD had the most powerful processors for PC gaming. I just had to get my hands on an AMD + GeForce 3 combo...
ah yes, those WERE the days! motherboard mods too. Hell, a group of assembler coders that I belonged to even were modifying BIOS code to improve performance, etc... we even had a couple of big name manufacturers approach us... Oh hell no, get yourself some real wizards... ABIT had the best known BIOS engineer back then
Yeah, she is legendary. Wasn't she just a stand in while they found someone to take over long term? AMD sure struck it lucky, had they found someone who knows if they would have match her greatness. A great example of an executive woman too, in a traditionally male dominated role.
@@navyvet84 Well, there's wives and there's other kind of wives. My mom can clear any cash at 8.5TB/s. Don't think there's enough money in the entire world to overload her ability to spend. At the end of the day she got only a few little things but she is able to spend billions. Are you familiar with the "black hole" concept? I'll explain it to you: my mom creates a whole vortex of money sucking energy that made all the world become poor by the end of the year 2030. She is this mighty. And there's my wife.... I'll take a moment now but you must know that she's the little black hole vortex that's sitting right next to my mom's vortex. You might be one in a million lucky guy. I know I am not. Cheers!
@@PilotTed Dictators can get elected as well. A certain german man from the 1930s came to power completely legally though democratic elections. The dictatorship came afterwards.
Intel really needs a new marketing department. Their entire naming scheme is a wreck. What the hell is a i7 1065 G7? What the hell is a LGA 1156 or a LGA 1366?
@@Cloudmaster1511 U mean expensive crap and more expensive crap? Cause Intel looks more focused on making more chipsets than upgrading their CPUs 😂 Long life to AMD sockets and their MB BIOS update 👌🏼
Lol as soon as I seen the videos drop I made a small happy sound at work, didn't know how to explain my emotional outburst to everyone in the lunchroom.
Yeah rn it's probably sold out almost everywhere. One of the biggest online shops in Germany where I instantly bought a 5800x still had it and the 5600x in stock for quite a few hours. 5900x and 5950x were gone almost instantly though.
Yeah the 5900x and 5950x were gone in 5 min When i placed my order for 5900x i saw the window go from in stock to more than 10 days delivery date in an instant
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We are gathered here to remember the dead! Intel will be remembered for being a dedicated and steadfast believer in the process. The 14 nanometer process! 💀
Even though I get what you are trying to say Intel will most likely do a comeback. Probably when they reach 7nm but I would expect a comeback atleast within 3-5 years since we already know that the upcoming is 14nm and wont win their throne back. AMD was afterall behind them for how many years and was almost bankrupt but here we are.
@@MrFasho123 Absolutely correct!! Intel better rise from the ashes for our sake. It's only a matter of time till AMD starts to feel they're own success and transform into what Intel is now.
@H W What does ARM have to do with this video, Dumb-o? Respectfully, your comment was the worst, most useless factoid you could have added to this conversation. Respectfully, of course.
I haven’t owned a desktop in 15+ years. But watching your channel and getting back into gaming I’m inspired to try and build one! And a first AMD system too, thanks for the videos!
Jokes on you, Honda is faster than the Ferrari right now in Formula One. It's more like Intel did some cheats to claim 10nm but then they were caught to be 14nm+ all along.
@@xavhow yup, they're facing a lot of harsh hurdles. That's why they started targeting 7nm and even that's already facing delays, much like 10nm did years ago. So unless they really figure something out, they're in a lot of trouble.
@@ArtisChronicles is it true that one of the reasons why Intel is having a hard time transitioning to 10nm is due to their monolithic die design which give rise to yield issues?
@@blvck.8197 They were referring to how the ryzen 5000 cpus are out of stock everywhere. Newegg literally went from no listings to sold out listings of all models in a single refresh for me.
"10nm ported back to 14nm" means original design goals were to design for 10nm, but there was no competitive and/or profitable reason to use 10nm, cost benefit analysis says 14nm was better for profits.
Not entirely true, 10 nm means More Chips per Wafer also Less power Per Watt which are Both Selling points and can increase Profits OVER 14 nm its why AMD moved to it and Why Intel Has been trying and failing to hit that goal which they set for themselves Years ago.
Also, it's not a straight backport, part of the architecture have to be removed to fit on 14nm. Intel had to backport to 14nm from 10nm, it wasn't a choice.
If we're talking about Intel, the far more likely cause it that yields on the 10nm process have been sub-par and not enough to meet target goals for all markets. It's partially why Intel has only, for the most part, targeted low power chips/laptop chips for the 10nm chipset.
Well if you remember, way way back in the day AMD used to be more powerful even without being clocked the same as intel. That's been so long now that a lot of people may not know about it anymore. Most people now just remember how poor AMD performed right around the time of the multi core revolution with the fx line
I absolutely love my 5900x its an absolute monster and doesn't really perform that much worse than the 5950x Ryzen has only impressed me more as time marches on, great review!
Very Funny. We have real situation like this in my country. You can get into jail for nothing. If you were on a street while were was meeting you can get 15 days in jail for f#$%^ick nothing. You can check Belarus protest. But about intel i hope they will make good processor and everyone wins. Cause in that case AMD will make same as intel before - increasing prices.
I really wanna see you go full john madden with a red marker. "You got ccx here but there being blocked by latency. But moving the core here really changes the game, pat"
i wanted the 5800x but decided to get the 3800x instead a few weeks ago due to a catastrophic failure and I now feel cheated :( I didn't think that I'd be able to snag a 5800x either on launch day
@@davidpugh8772 damn, that sucks. They sold out, but it wasnt as bad as the nvidia launches. Site was stable, and I hopped right on at 6AM PT when they went on sale and was able to get it easily. Going to be a beast with my 3900! :)
Idk how. I was going for the 5900x and it literally went from not on the site to out of stock. The 5600x lasted for like 30 minutes but that’s it. I do have a plan to get one but we will see. I’m building a brand new system so it seems that with all the new tech it won’t be built until next year. I can’t really wait either, I’m on a GTX 970 and a i7-4770k.
Impressive on both sides: AMD delivering such a good product on one side and Intel being totally clueless on the other side. For some reason I still thought Intel might have something up their sleeve, they really have nothing, very strange coming from such a huge company...
Same here brother! My FX-8350 while not very flashy has served me pretty well but was showing its age when I bought it in 2013! I just got back from waiting in line for a Ryzen 7 5800x and I couldn't be more excited for my new build!
my 8350 just give up on me 2 weeks ago after serving me wonderfully for 6 years plus..wat i do believe for AMD last time finally arrived..intel being defeated..im gonna get 5900X with crosshair viii dark hero n some juicy high CL rams in the new build hail AMD loyalist!! 👏💪
Hey Jay, love your videos. Small headsup, after the benchmarkcharts you start to talk about those numbers which is great! BUT when you refer to specific benchmarks i'd love to have a small windows showing that chart again, like @12:35 u startet to go on about the FarCry benchmark. Do I still have those numbers in my head? Of course not, there were way too many of them. So I think that would be a really small thing, but a huge improvement to follow your talks.
@@Khazandar He's not, language updates constantly and now the a Oxford English Dictionary has one of the definitions of literally as meaning figuratively. This kind of thing happens all the time in languages. Just gotta roll with it. Except for an emoji winning word of the year. Fuck that.
Intel is just biding their time until they get their next generation architecture out there. I still remember the Pentium 4 vs Athlon 64 FX, everybody said Intel was down for the count, than tada Core 2 Duo shows up and it was over.
@@ascissordollynamedgwen9409 Hahaha! You're the second person to catch it. There's actually 6 but 2 didn't work how it's supposed to. It's just a quick bot I made for fun to promote user engagement with channels. It was supposed to like and comment in all of them. I first watched Paul's video then decided to try it so technically 7 but it only liked half of them and the last 2 made the comment but didn't send it. I fixed it then did the last two. Good catch tho! I didn't think anyone would notice.
@@ascissordollynamedgwen9409 They say theyre crackin down on em but i got a 5950x using one so its possible. newegg did reject my attempt tryin to get a 3080. they didnt tell me why. i assumed they caught it cuz my purchase went thru and was later refunded with a canceled order email but it couldve been due to stock too. i only use em to get one of the thing i want tho. i dont use them to resell.
"10nm ported back to 14nm" sounds like the architecture was designed for the 10nm process that Intel still can't get to work, so they had no choice but to redesign it for 14nm.
@@dalehammers4425 The way AMD defines "## nm" is not the same that Intel defines it's own "## nm". I've hear that Intel 14 nm is comparable to AMD 10 nm, but how much "'true" is that statement? And what about Intel's 14+++nm vs AMD's 7 nm? This is a pretty limited industry, i.e. all players and talent know each other. So I kind of find it hard to believe that Intel is having super duper mega ultra trouble "finding & applying" the next batch of fab tricks for its next shrinking process, while AMD seemingly and "magically" would have clear coasting blue skies with strong back wind? come on, both companies are fighting against the same physics limitations, and using from the same "pool" of engineering science. In other words: both have to buy their sailboat from the same store (fabbing scientific advances), and are more or less on the same spot in the ocean (same problems to face). If one is facing a storm, so does the other. Intel's problem though is that it's chips are now so incredibly complex, this slows down dev time a lot. Yay for bureaucracy! but that is CPU design. For the "base" ## nm process, both companies are facing around the same physical limits. I wonder if there is a detailed article or video that explains in depth all the differences between all these "## nm" sizes.
thats not true, it took, the combined weight of th e3 companys to finally beat Intel. And its not like their that far ahead. If Intel uses TSMC to get to 7nM, its a tick/tock one faster than the other, like AMD and NVDA.
Over the past 20+ years, I've bought nothing but AMD for my main desktop. I always wanted to support the underdog to keep the competition. Does this mean I need to switch to Intel?
nah....I've been using AMD since Duron.... yeah... Intel was better than my FX8350, but I already had the motherboard with the Phenom II.... Glad I stuck around, like others. If not for "us", we would still be using 4 core CPU's.
My friend stood up all night and couldnt get one. I just gave up and went with a 10700k since i only use pc for games. It's 120 euros cheaper and only 2% slower than 5800x. It is hot as hell tho.
Waited in line for 16 hours. Disappointed when my local micro center only got 5 5900x’s in total. I was #36 in line out of 220 people. Luckily I got a 5800X, unlucky but still grateful! My first PC ever is gonna have some great parts!
@@sogetsu60 depends on the game. 5800x gets 25% higher FPS in heavy cpu-bound games like Valorant and CSGO but only gets 5-10% in most other titles. But I mean, who’s really gonna notice the difference between 600 and 750 fps anyways...
Pentium D way back in 2005 was 'glued' together into the same package, but rather than having a fast interconect like Infinity Fabric they just shared the FSB..
Me to Intel: I will remember you, will you remember me? Don't let your life pass you by Weep not for the memories Remember the good times that we had? I let them slip away from us when things got bad How clearly I first saw you smilin' in the sun Want to feel your warmth upon me I want to be the one I will remember you, will you remember me? Don't let your life pass you by Weep not for the memories
@@darklight8675 thanks best buy isn't really an option outside the US. only the large international stores shipping here are Newegg (out of stock), and Amazon (which charges ridiculous shipping fees). and local stores usually sell at a 40-50% markup so yeah... Newegg is pretty much the only reasonable option.
@@MrThirumalar that sucks! UK websites were pretty bad, most crashed, I didn't see any stock on Amazon before it went "out of stock" but scan UK did a pretty good job!
@@escarretada I don't believe consoles have access to all cores for gaming last I read, could be wrong. That being said, if later down the road you need to go 8 cores for whatever reason there are clearly options to upgrade. A lot more flexibility on an AM4 socket vd LGA 1200 right now.
@@MalazanTheFallen atm it looks like amd could have that competition as well although it atleast looks like a much tighter race and it really could come down to if either is willing to budge on price
Hey. I am aiming at that level of hardware next build. I can tell you I am happy with a 1080p monitor. I will eventually go to 1440p, but on things to do, it isn't all that high on my list. Getting new peripherals is higher on the list, as is getting stuff done around the house. Upgrading my monitor to 1440p is a minor concern for me.
I'm kinda the same way. I've never been able to play a modern game at max everything even right back to the original Half Life, had to turn stuff down on the family computer. With the way my current build is slowly evolving I would rather comfortably run 1080p with maximum everything on a higher refresh rate monitor than run 1440p with settings turned down.
Getting a 4k monitor was the best upgrade ever since I build my first PC in 2002, and I am still using a 750ti that can't play anything but Factorio at this resoluiton. Any use outside games greatly benefits a better monitor if you do use it for things outside gaming.
Do not worry, AMD just finally caught up again, happened before, Intel will hit with their true next gen and will pound AMD into the floor boards. Lest We Forget the Core 2 Duo.
"don't put that against the 1950... cuz the threadripper owner will just cry themselves to sleep for a week straight" - That's me! Got my order in this morning. I've been happy with the 1950 for years, so no regrets.
I'm a 1950 owner too and I'm fine with it. Gotten years of solid work out of this machine, it's kind of silly to compare price or performance to a product that came out so much later. Besides which, one of the main reasons I went Threadripper in the first place was for the extra PCIe lanes, which I actually am using. So this wouldn't really be an upgrade in that regard...
It's amazing that AMD has come back that far, took them a while to beat intel at gaming but they did it, at least with low resolution which is sadly less current with the new vga better at supporting 4k, just can't wait to see what intel will do to compete with that, I have no dedication for any companys i just love competition and its looking good for next year.
Intel crying out please give me mercy amd is like sorry I am all out of mercy but amd vs nvida thye are both getting very close even tho nvida can easily make a gpu a slap it across amds face both companys have technology to make a dual gpu like the titan z that cane out could we see dual cards come back from both company's
Intel INVENTED the micro-processor, They are the reason any of you even know wtf a computer is 😂 “got what was coming to them” what in the actual fuck does that even mean
@@OneLovePsych Yes totally, because inventing something makes you the best. Next you'll say Ford is the best car company. You'd have to be a complete simpleton to deny AMD is spanking Intel in most categories even if you had your tongue on Intel's nuts.
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@@OneLovePsych if they hadn't done it some one else would have. Being first only means so much. Most originators actually go out of business so....
You gotta test these new cpu's with a new amd videocard's when you get your hands on before you build a workstation, or you might regret again but I digress
@@trent4439 the mental gymnastics is hilarious. Intel had one advantage... Game fps. Now that amd has overtaken or leveled on that front, you say gains are minimal. Gtfo
AMD is winning so hard that they’re using “at least” instead of “up to” now
Thats winning marketing if you ask me
Both receive the biggest fund of the exact same group. The vanguard group (don't believe me, google it). Instead of giving ur money in the left hand, u now give it in their right hand. You actually think these companies are competing? If they actually were, then 1 would buyout the other, or 1 would go bankrupt after such a loss, but they don't. This way they can control the market with a duopoly. Why do u think 99% of the wealth lies with 1% of the people?
they've basically perfected an architecture Intel hasn't even hit yet. I bet AMD launches a 3.5nm process before Intel even figures out 7
@@ike789125 AMD has far from “perfected” the 7nm architecture. You could probably squeeze like 2x more performance out of it, but they’re going to see huge diminishing returns on time spent vs IPC improvements.
This is what Intel is currently doing with their 14nm and 10nm chips, but look where that’s got them. They’ve spent so long on 14nm that they forgot they can get the same IPC improvements faster by moving to a smaller node.
AMD realized this so they jumped the gun on 7nm (and are about to go to 5nm), and they’re really reaping the benefits right now.
@@stairfall12345678900 They didn't forget they just can't figure out how to get past 14nm. I also agree with you about AMD not perfecting 7nm. I mean they've only just now beat intel even though intel is still a node behind.
I have said it once I’ll say it again, This is what happens when you put an engineer at the CEO position.
For real. This is the first time I've seen people crediting a CEO with a company's success, and thought it was actually warranted. Dr Su saved that company damn near single handedly
@@spaceduck413 amen 🙏
Same with Nvidia since Lisa Su and Jensen are siblings!
@@HotShame0 Stop spreading lies. They are distant cousins at best.
@@HotShame0 Technically, it is safe to say that Lisa Su's own grandfather is actually Jen-Hsun Huang's uncle. Although they aren't really niece and uncles, they are very close relatives. taken from www.techtimes.com/articles/253736/20201030/fact-check-nvidia-ceo-uncle-amds-dr-lisa-su.htm
The only thing Intel can do is cut down their prices.
Up them, they gotta up the prices
Not even that will help Intel.
@@royvice666 Not even upping the prices? Then I have no idea. What about.. Upping the prices AND lowering the quality?
@@istachi Now that could really work, AMD is in real trouble now! ROFL
@@royvice666 Exactly! Checkmate, AMD!
All: Gaming or productivity?
AMD: Why not both?
it's not only amd but as well intel, they woke up just now
This would / will be true once I see some power usage comparisons .
why not Zoidburg?
@@Robotrik1 amd is same power draw is the 3000 series which is awesome
You missed the opportunity to make the right joke:
All: Gaming or productivity?
AMD: Yes.
"911, what's your emergency?"
"Yes, I would like to report a murder."
Who or what is a muder
@@7rixee wow. I can't believe autocorrect didn't catch that.
Scalpers out in force on eBay £510 CPUs for £850. And they are putting things like "high in queue will despatch when it arrives" and "order accepted at retailer". They don't even have a guaranteed delivery let alone a date. These people make me angry.
@@darthvalkyr not sure why I'd replace my 2600 so guess I'm lucky. Not the seller fault someones offering to be ripped. 🤔
@@darthvalkyr scalpers piss me off too. Especially with stuff like this.
Peoples livelyhoods can quite often depend on them getting these parts as soon as possible.
When the nintendo switch launched, I checked every retailer within 200 miles of my house, and no one had it. I ended up paying $430(the cheapest I could find. Most were asking around $550) to a scalper that was also trying to scalp copies of Breathe of the Wild, which didn't even have stock issues.
With a game console it's not the end of the world. It's still scummy as all hell, but whatever. You can always just wait for stock to come in. With serious hardware like this, it's infuriating. Someone's ability to effectively do there job can be seriously hindered by these assholes.
Dr. Lisa Hsu: This isn't even my final form!
You mean ultra instinct is on the way 😁
Ha.
_Transforms to SSJ 5nm_
that's fire!
Lisa is not not a real woman BTW
Rip 14nm++++ Mark III Revision V2.04 Ultra-mode
Intel is like Tick-Tock-Tock-Tock-Tock-Tock-Tock
Intel need to get their ish together like bruhhhh start packing more cores for cheaper
@@kilianortmann9979 on their CPU side, but everything else they're fine...for now.
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Lmao way too accurate
When I build my new PC next year I'm going AMD for CPU and GPU, didn't think I would say that a few years ago.
It has been 15 years since I last said that
Me too
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
(Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Best to wait to see what next year brings before you make that statement. Pc building is always here and now. Next year intel can slam amd with a comeback and price slash.
Same
@@escrimatics4894 if you think their 11th gen will do that to amd I think your going to be very depressed after they come out.
Good on AMD! I will show my age here, but I remember the good old days in early 2000s when AMD had the most powerful processors for PC gaming. I just had to get my hands on an AMD + GeForce 3 combo...
Oh yeah! That K6 was amazing, and when AMD dropped the Athlon64 it was over for Intel, at least until the dual-core years started.
I recently bought a AMD Athlon64 3500+ to display on my desk. It was the CPU of my first gaming build.
ah yes, those WERE the days! motherboard mods too. Hell, a group of assembler coders that I belonged to even were modifying BIOS code to improve performance, etc... we even had a couple of big name manufacturers approach us... Oh hell no, get yourself some real wizards... ABIT had the best known BIOS engineer back then
LOL I still have my 3200+....I have to admit that was the last AMD CPU I owned. My replacement was the Intel i7-920 in a MSI Eclipse SLI..
I had a k6-3, and a t bird, Intel since
I love the Red vs Blue RGB lights in the background.
Ok, but I have a feeling the lights are not on these sides, intel is on the red side and amd is on the blue side ??
Rip rooster teeth
Looks like Tenet.
All credit to Dr.Lisa T. Su.... she took charge of a sinking ship and turned AMD's fortune around
A talented engineer running an engineering company. who woulda thought
@@dattau56 McLaren isn't doing good yk. So yea really props to her for pulling AMD out upside
Yeah, she is legendary. Wasn't she just a stand in while they found someone to take over long term? AMD sure struck it lucky, had they found someone who knows if they would have match her greatness. A great example of an executive woman too, in a traditionally male dominated role.
Intel put a mba in charge and he is carving intel up and selling it off piece by piece.
Hardly think one manager can do that, its a team effort.
my wife has full access to the entire cash.
Underrated!
@@ParasiteQueen1 totally agree but you need a wife to appreciate it.
And you gotta talk to the wife before accessing the cash, which increases latency.
And she can clear the cash at 6TB/s
@@navyvet84 Well, there's wives and there's other kind of wives. My mom can clear any cash at 8.5TB/s. Don't think there's enough money in the entire world to overload her ability to spend. At the end of the day she got only a few little things but she is able to spend billions. Are you familiar with the "black hole" concept? I'll explain it to you: my mom creates a whole vortex of money sucking energy that made all the world become poor by the end of the year 2030. She is this mighty. And there's my wife.... I'll take a moment now but you must know that she's the little black hole vortex that's sitting right next to my mom's vortex. You might be one in a million lucky guy. I know I am not. Cheers!
**something in the alley exploded**
Intel fanboys bulging forehead vein
I watch the whole vid because I'm tired of hearing this Election day and I need tech talk...that means you Jayz😊
You don't enjoy a new Dick Tater = POTUS
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 What? Do you even know what a dictator is? It isn't someone who gets elected.
@@PilotTed
Dictators can get elected as well. A certain german man from the 1930s came to power completely legally though democratic elections. The dictatorship came afterwards.
@@PilotTed yes. Hitler got elected. Kim Yong Ill was elected.
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 You mean Mango Unchained?!
"don't put it against 1950 because threadripper owner will just cry themself to sleep for a week"
I'm laughing harder than i should for this 😂😂
Amd: we need better performance we can increase the clock sped and optimise the cores
Intel: lakes!
And today we show you the all new Slow Lake Intel i9 with 8 cores and no HT at 4.9 GHz starting at 999USD :D
Intel really needs a new marketing department. Their entire naming scheme is a wreck. What the hell is a i7 1065 G7? What the hell is a LGA 1156 or a LGA 1366?
@@rudrasingh6354 well as a former intel owner i can tell you: its okay. 1156= consumer 1366= extreme
@@Cloudmaster1511 U mean expensive crap and more expensive crap? Cause Intel looks more focused on making more chipsets than upgrading their CPUs 😂
Long life to AMD sockets and their MB BIOS update 👌🏼
@@OutlawXplosive true. i didnt say its good by the way. just that a could endure it while it lastet for my i3-550 and i5-6600k XD
"What are you watching, honey?"
"Chip porn"
All morning. Tired but happy.
Jay doesn't make CPU porn he makes CPU romance movies
Wtf is this comment. Then again imma finish the video for context
Lool yah
All my circuits
Lol as soon as I seen the videos drop I made a small happy sound at work, didn't know how to explain my emotional outburst to everyone in the lunchroom.
I'd love to see a benchmark using factorio. This is an almost totally CPU single core and memory bound game.
I was going to say the same. Lets check that UPS on megabase
Minecraft is also single core lol. Really interesting how many frames I'll reach with my 5600x once I finish my build
And BeamNG,Drive for a CPU all core bound game.
Dwarf Fortress Benchmark!
I actually thought of getting a 5950x just so I can scale my base bigger with playable FPS. Lmao
2020 be like: “out of stock”
cpus/gpus are like neckbeard toilet paper
my local store is in stock
@@archdukepc102 I wish I had a local store.
Yeah rn it's probably sold out almost everywhere. One of the biggest online shops in Germany where I instantly bought a 5800x still had it and the 5600x in stock for quite a few hours. 5900x and 5950x were gone almost instantly though.
Yeah the 5900x and 5950x were gone in 5 min When i placed my order for 5900x i saw the window go from in stock to more than 10 days delivery date in an instant
"Now that I'm done with this ad"
UA-cam: "Here's another ad for you."
Look up Vanced Manager if you have a Android Phone.
Just buy premium finally, $13 per month is really nothing
@@random_birch_forest Nah, they already have enough money. Would much rather donate directly to the pockets of the creators.
@@random_birch_forest no.
Totally Free and 100% Works instantly:
At the beginning of the video, immediately Drag the slider to the end of the video. And wait about 5 seconds, it will drop every Ads from being fetched and Cached and Played.
AMD: "CALL THE AMBULANCE! CALL THE AMBULANCE!!"
"But not for me. 😏"
did you really have to use that emoji at the end as well
Intel be like : "I need a ALBALAM! ALBALAM!"
Bring da amber lamps!
remove emoji
We are gathered here to remember the dead! Intel will be remembered for being a dedicated and steadfast believer in the process. The 14 nanometer process! 💀
intel will be remembered for being stubborn and lazy and cheesy and going against the law to cheat out AMD many times
Well said......
Even though I get what you are trying to say Intel will most likely do a comeback. Probably when they reach 7nm but I would expect a comeback atleast within 3-5 years since we already know that the upcoming is 14nm and wont win their throne back. AMD was afterall behind them for how many years and was almost bankrupt but here we are.
@@MrFasho123 Absolutely correct!! Intel better rise from the ashes for our sake. It's only a matter of time till AMD starts to feel they're own success and transform into what Intel is now.
Memento Mori
14:40 Phil: "What'd you get in for?"
J2C: "Enabling XMP"
I want an old school pair of 3D glasses with that background to see if it pops
3:30 That was someone throwing their Intel stock in the dumpster.
lol
@Hank T copied
😂
Underrated comment :D
"Giving Intel a digital version of a prison yard beatdown" should be printed on the Ryzen retail packaging 🤣
BAHAHAHAHA
@H W wtf is “arm” lmao
@H W ARM is irrelevant when it comes to the desktop PC market since they don't make anything in that space.
@H W What does ARM have to do with this video, Dumb-o? Respectfully, your comment was the worst, most useless factoid you could have added to this conversation. Respectfully, of course.
The thing I like about Jay and Linus is they don't speak in a mundane monotone voice like other tech reviewers do
Why you gotta call Steve out like that? gaw... ;p
Even Paul's hardware
Remember remember the 5th of November, the day that Intel was forgot ;)
V 🤣🤣
int how?
"intel was forgot"
Whats an Intel ?
Really? How? Intel is now the ONLY CPUs people can buy. Im forgetting about AMD much quicker considering the 5900x is a myth at this point
Either something blew up in the alley or Jay just doesn’t want to say excuse me XD
Yeah, I was curious as to what happened there o_o
OP, did we really fart at the same timestamp? That's creepy.
Maybe they did a cut there to see what it was? From the sound to when he continues to talk might be 10 mins apart.
Sounded like a dumpster being interacted with in some way.
Intel's ego exploded due to AMD sneaking up with a nail.
I haven’t owned a desktop in 15+ years. But watching your channel and getting back into gaming I’m inspired to try and build one! And a first AMD system too, thanks for the videos!
Just don't love in Brazil! This processor costs 5k easy here! It's horrible this tech is not accessible to us!
"10nm ported back to 14+" oh yeah my car is a Ferrari but stripped down to Honda.
Jokes on you, Honda is faster than the Ferrari right now in Formula One. It's more like Intel did some cheats to claim 10nm but then they were caught to be 14nm+ all along.
this is alarming. Intel can't even stay on 10nm.
@@xavhow yup, they're facing a lot of harsh hurdles. That's why they started targeting 7nm and even that's already facing delays, much like 10nm did years ago. So unless they really figure something out, they're in a lot of trouble.
@@ArtisChronicles is it true that one of the reasons why Intel is having a hard time transitioning to 10nm is due to their monolithic die design which give rise to yield issues?
@@ganbareshamiko1730 only in Formula One....
AMD is fighting at two battle fronts and they’re doing pretty damn well.
And then the fire nation (scalpers) attacked
Germany 1941
Then in a few years Germany will get absolutely raped by the two giants
USSR: Nvidia
USA: Intel
Never fight a 2 front war
So did Nazi Germany. For a while. Edit: Oi, Basil, didn't see you beat me by 2 minutes.
@@Mp57navy great minds think alike ;)
@@Mp57navy aye but they weak link was Hitler.
"Intel needs a Miracle to stay relevant"
Intel -"We are gonna release Skylake++++++++ in 2021"
in 14nm
@@TatsuZZmage nono 10nm scaled up to 14nm
@@Hun73rdk no, its 14nm in desktop
@@Hun73rdk What does that even mean?
Its double speak.
If you 'scale up' a 10 inch model Car to 12 inchs its now a 12 inches model Car lol
@@bigdaz7272 its intel ways to keep them self in the talks
"like a prison yard beatdown"
Not like in the prison yard. More like in the showers...
They be droppin the soap
@@Inphase. soap lake?
@@mrrolandlawrence finally a name that makes sense!
Fun fact, the reason you dont want to drop the soap is because THE FLOORS ARE FUCKING COVERED IN MOLD AND STAPH I SWEAR TO CHRIST
desgustaing.
My name is Ben Dover, Glad to meet you Ben :p
Their miracle: AMD pulled an Nvidia
50 dollars more is nothing compared to 500 dollars more that nvidia charges for the 3090 vs the 6900xt lol
@@blvck.8197 They were referring to how the ryzen 5000 cpus are out of stock everywhere. Newegg literally went from no listings to sold out listings of all models in a single refresh for me.
@@commerov it's launch day, of course it's gonna sell out.
@@blvck.8197 He's talking about amd having a paper launch. The cpu's sold out right away... And no local stock sent to best buy locations near me.
First intel, then nvidia, then amd. That would actually be hilarious
Benchmarks look like digital version of prison yard beat down. ~JaysTwocents 2020
Well.. that was good one.
lol, good one
The thing 'exploding in the alley' was an Intel system someone just threw out.
More likely someone trying to get an Intel chip to run at the same performance as these.
@@MushVPeets more like someone's first gen threadripper system
@@dadjokes8963 The saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt
Intel: *exist*
Amd: Take Zen3 you peasant
Zen
Intel: no longer exists
why i read this with azula's voice
@@eveangreen1871 intel: tries to win people with rocket and alder lake (looks kinda promising, alder lake)
"10nm ported back to 14nm" means original design goals were to design for 10nm, but there was no competitive and/or profitable reason to use 10nm, cost benefit analysis says 14nm was better for profits.
Not entirely true, 10 nm means More Chips per Wafer also Less power Per Watt which are Both Selling points and can increase Profits OVER 14 nm its why AMD moved to it and Why Intel Has been trying and failing to hit that goal which they set for themselves Years ago.
Also, it's not a straight backport, part of the architecture have to be removed to fit on 14nm. Intel had to backport to 14nm from 10nm, it wasn't a choice.
If we're talking about Intel, the far more likely cause it that yields on the 10nm process have been sub-par and not enough to meet target goals for all markets. It's partially why Intel has only, for the most part, targeted low power chips/laptop chips for the 10nm chipset.
@@tryintech839 you're spot on
I like the IPC comparison!
all at 4ghz... 25% faster than intel.
crazy
Well if you remember, way way back in the day AMD used to be more powerful even without being clocked the same as intel. That's been so long now that a lot of people may not know about it anymore. Most people now just remember how poor AMD performed right around the time of the multi core revolution with the fx line
@@ram89572 I have K6 and a Thunderbird... Awesome CPUs
@@ram89572 I used to have Athlon 64 that time, it was much better, but intel paid some pocket money for companies no to sell them....
@@Mark__A well, they can't do it anymore, AMD has never been as big as it is now.
“Intel wasn’t ready” neither was amd’s website lmao
@ He, like I. probably got "503 Not Available" when trying to by one of the 5k series cpu's this morning.
I absolutely love my 5900x its an absolute monster and doesn't really perform that much worse than the 5950x Ryzen has only impressed me more as time marches on, great review!
especially when 5900 is 90+% of performance and half the cost of the 5950...
Should I upgrade from 5800x to 5900x?
yes you should big difference in anything else then FPS, but everythign gonna be smoother cuz more cache and cores especially ;)@@geeker9545
*talking about prison*
"What did you get in for?"
"Buying intel"
Made my day :D
Very Funny. We have real situation like this in my country. You can get into jail for nothing. If you were on a street while were was meeting you can get 15 days in jail for f#$%^ick nothing. You can check Belarus protest. But about intel i hope they will make good processor and everyone wins. Cause in that case AMD will make same as intel before - increasing prices.
Surely it should have been dealing Intel.
Friends don't let friends buy Intel
CAN'T WAIT TO GO BROKE UPGRADING!
You didn't need that kidney anyways
@@JackPecker911 Honestly he didn't need it
@@JackPecker911 that comment should have more likes than the main comment
You will have to wait its sold out everywhere but ebay botters
Tell me about it. I haven't been this excited since 1080
Intel: Now the real fight can begin!
AMD: HA...this isn't even my final form!
I really wanna see you go full john madden with a red marker. "You got ccx here but there being blocked by latency. But moving the core here really changes the game, pat"
Most underrated comment sir, I'm fucking dying lmao
That loud bang in the alley was some Intel fan boy coming to defend it.
Jay talking about Intel "The most recent announcement said..."
*Advert kicks in* "Look at you ignoring the signs!"
"Intel needs a Miracle to stay relevant"
Intel -"We are gonna release Skylake++++++++ in 2021"
2022 AMD: "We made a CPU with 16 GB of unified L3 cache."
and loaded crsys on the cache
and the power cable will run minecraft alone.
I think they will end up with some kind of hbm stacked on the io die for sure in a couple of years
Soon it will connect to Spacex satellites and bam your computer connects to universe...
Ryzen 6900X CPU & RX 6900XT
GPU 😏
Insert "Stop he's already dead" Simpsons clip.
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@AquaLion GG our office did a machine refresh this year and they were all AMDs. AMD's popularity will grow.
Can't wait for The Blues: The Intel Movie, so I can find out who made the decisions and why.
This joke is underrated... the blues. Team blue. Oh god, I love puns
"I wish intel would glue something together..." - burn unit is on the way jay!
Was able to get a 5950x from new egg when they went on sale this morning. Gets here in 5 days! Can’t wait!
i wanted the 5800x but decided to get the 3800x instead a few weeks ago due to a catastrophic failure and I now feel cheated :(
I didn't think that I'd be able to snag a 5800x either on launch day
@@davidpugh8772 damn, that sucks. They sold out, but it wasnt as bad as the nvidia launches. Site was stable, and I hopped right on at 6AM PT when they went on sale and was able to get it easily. Going to be a beast with my 3900! :)
Lucky bastard...
Idk how. I was going for the 5900x and it literally went from not on the site to out of stock. The 5600x lasted for like 30 minutes but that’s it. I do have a plan to get one but we will see. I’m building a brand new system so it seems that with all the new tech it won’t be built until next year. I can’t really wait either, I’m on a GTX 970 and a i7-4770k.
@@davidpugh8772 I got a 3800x a few months ago for $220 so i'm happy with it, though the 5800x looks amazing!
Impressive on both sides: AMD delivering such a good product on one side and Intel being totally clueless on the other side. For some reason I still thought Intel might have something up their sleeve, they really have nothing, very strange coming from such a huge company...
Okay Jayz, you win...
I'm upgrading from my FX8350!
Same here brother! My FX-8350 while not very flashy has served me pretty well but was showing its age when I bought it in 2013! I just got back from waiting in line for a Ryzen 7 5800x and I couldn't be more excited for my new build!
8320E here.
Welcome to the new millennium
I upgraded from a 8350 2 months ago to a ryzen 5 2600 and it feels great. FX is a stuttering hot mess.
my 8350 just give up on me 2 weeks ago after serving me wonderfully for 6 years plus..wat i do believe for AMD last time finally arrived..intel being defeated..im gonna get 5900X with crosshair viii dark hero n some juicy high CL rams in the new build
hail AMD loyalist!! 👏💪
"Wait, it was the 5900X?"
"Always has been"
**cocks gun**
this doesn't even make sense
jayz is like a grandpa of pctech - keep forgetting stuffs, derailed talking about the main topic and keep bringing up very old tech stories
@@harrisonclark3799 Did you finish watching the video? Do you remember when he said they were accidentally testing the 5900x instead of the 5950x?
It's like watching a comedy show Lol🤣😁😁😁...Love it
Hey Jay, love your videos. Small headsup, after the benchmarkcharts you start to talk about those numbers which is great! BUT when you refer to specific benchmarks i'd love to have a small windows showing that chart again, like @12:35 u startet to go on about the FarCry benchmark. Do I still have those numbers in my head? Of course not, there were way too many of them. So I think that would be a really small thing, but a huge improvement to follow your talks.
Intel: Mercy please!
Lisa: Nah
Skunk works with the slant hard-line tube from the rad to the reservoir is taking all my attention.
3:30 literally hearing Intel's labratory explode Looney Tunes Style trying to get anything under 14nm to work properly.
Please stop using "literally" wrong -.-
@Audigear Do you know what literally means?
@Audigear literally means it’s actually happening
@@Khazandar He's not, language updates constantly and now the a Oxford English Dictionary has one of the definitions of literally as meaning figuratively. This kind of thing happens all the time in languages. Just gotta roll with it.
Except for an emoji winning word of the year. Fuck that.
Intel is just biding their time until they get their next generation architecture out there. I still remember the Pentium 4 vs Athlon 64 FX, everybody said Intel was down for the count, than tada Core 2 Duo shows up and it was over.
AMD just gave me a chub in a way i didnt know a piece of technology could actually physically do.
ok buddy
Welcome to the Cult Mechanicus my friend
@@ascissordollynamedgwen9409 Hahaha! You're the second person to catch it. There's actually 6 but 2 didn't work how it's supposed to. It's just a quick bot I made for fun to promote user engagement with channels. It was supposed to like and comment in all of them. I first watched Paul's video then decided to try it so technically 7 but it only liked half of them and the last 2 made the comment but didn't send it. I fixed it then did the last two. Good catch tho! I didn't think anyone would notice.
@@ascissordollynamedgwen9409 They say theyre crackin down on em but i got a 5950x using one so its possible. newegg did reject my attempt tryin to get a 3080. they didnt tell me why. i assumed they caught it cuz my purchase went thru and was later refunded with a canceled order email but it couldve been due to stock too. i only use em to get one of the thing i want tho. i dont use them to resell.
"10nm ported back to 14nm" sounds like the architecture was designed for the 10nm process that Intel still can't get to work, so they had no choice but to redesign it for 14nm.
Which is probably exactly what happened. 7nm is off to a great start as well, delays even earlier than 10nm.
@@ArtisChronicles while AMD is happily working on their 5nm...
@@dalehammers4425 The way AMD defines "## nm" is not the same that Intel defines it's own "## nm". I've hear that Intel 14 nm is comparable to AMD 10 nm, but how much "'true" is that statement? And what about Intel's 14+++nm vs AMD's 7 nm? This is a pretty limited industry, i.e. all players and talent know each other.
So I kind of find it hard to believe that Intel is having super duper mega ultra trouble "finding & applying" the next batch of fab tricks for its next shrinking process, while AMD seemingly and "magically" would have clear coasting blue skies with strong back wind?
come on, both companies are fighting against the same physics limitations, and using from the same "pool" of engineering science. In other words: both have to buy their sailboat from the same store (fabbing scientific advances), and are more or less on the same spot in the ocean (same problems to face). If one is facing a storm, so does the other.
Intel's problem though is that it's chips are now so incredibly complex, this slows down dev time a lot. Yay for bureaucracy! but that is CPU design. For the "base" ## nm process, both companies are facing around the same physical limits.
I wonder if there is a detailed article or video that explains in depth all the differences between all these "## nm" sizes.
@@patrickrannou1278 I always thought a nanometer was a nanometer
@@patrickrannou1278 do you have a source for the differing nanometers? I haven’t heard of that before
AMD actually did it. AMD is actually taking on both Intel and Nvidia. Classic underdog story. Well deserved win for AMD. Consumers won!
thats not true, it took, the combined weight of th e3 companys to finally beat Intel. And its not like their that far ahead. If Intel uses TSMC to get to 7nM, its a tick/tock one faster than the other, like AMD and NVDA.
@@raiderx7410 If Intel used TSMC node then i can give my arm that AMD would be in real trouble even with Zen 3 cpus.
but dont have the manufacturing capacity to do both
Over the past 20+ years, I've bought nothing but AMD for my main desktop. I always wanted to support the underdog to keep the competition. Does this mean I need to switch to Intel?
nah....I've been using AMD since Duron.... yeah... Intel was better than my FX8350, but I already had the motherboard with the Phenom II.... Glad I stuck around, like others. If not for "us", we would still be using 4 core CPU's.
Yes.
@Noel Pytlik huh... yeah..... I spent money. What have you done?
@Noel Pytlik yes.. yes we did...
@@Zulfi0198 he's trolling and doesn't have reading comprehension....
1:05 Darn it,UA-cam! Don't interrupt Jay's ad with one of your own!
Just to say as someone who couldn't ever afford Intel but I could afford AMD and it always got the job done. This is just great and cool to hear.
Same here. Now I want a new system so bad even considering my Ryzen 5 2600 system isn't really that old.
@@less5406 lol I just finished my first build all last gen don't have a lot of money to spend but ryzen 1600af , gigabyte b450 , 16gb
was able to order a 5800x this morning before they sold out!
My friend stood up all night and couldnt get one. I just gave up and went with a 10700k since i only use pc for games. It's 120 euros cheaper and only 2% slower than 5800x. It is hot as hell tho.
There are still 5600X chips available at my local retailer. Almost 4h after they went on sale.
Yeah it was nice to have at least a few minutes to get one and not 0.000016 seconds
Waited in line for 16 hours. Disappointed when my local micro center only got 5 5900x’s in total. I was #36 in line out of 220 people. Luckily I got a 5800X, unlucky but still grateful! My first PC ever is gonna have some great parts!
@@sogetsu60 depends on the game. 5800x gets 25% higher FPS in heavy cpu-bound games like Valorant and CSGO but only gets 5-10% in most other titles. But I mean, who’s really gonna notice the difference between 600 and 750 fps anyways...
Pentium D way back in 2005 was 'glued' together into the same package, but rather than having a fast interconect like Infinity Fabric they just shared the FSB..
Me to Intel: I will remember you, will you remember me?
Don't let your life pass you by
Weep not for the memories
Remember the good times that we had?
I let them slip away from us when things got bad
How clearly I first saw you smilin' in the sun
Want to feel your warmth upon me
I want to be the one
I will remember you, will you remember me?
Don't let your life pass you by
Weep not for the memories
Nicr
*Intel as Tony Stark*
Spider-man: "Everywhere I go I see his face"
Na
"subscribe ported back to like button"
Love that. Except I think you're telling us to unsubscribe. LOL
Came back from work, Already out of stock. its like RTX 3000 all over.
I had luck to buy from a german site a 5900x in the first minute after release, 2 min later out of stock
Friend got 2 5950X's and a 5900X he knew I wanted one so he got two and is just gonna sell me the 2nd at retail price + shipping. :)
@@MrZerk815 What a lad, gz
Check bestbuy and other places once a while. Just got a 5600x few minutes ago on bestbuy. They restocked a couple
@@darklight8675 thanks best buy isn't really an option outside the US. only the large international stores shipping here are Newegg (out of stock), and Amazon (which charges ridiculous shipping fees). and local stores usually sell at a 40-50% markup so yeah... Newegg is pretty much the only reasonable option.
Thanks Jay! So hyped for these, the value proposition is insane! Just picked up a 5600x for my first upgrade in 10 years!
Nice to see someone got their hands on a 5600X... Newegg started with 'Out of Stock' right off the bat...
@@MrThirumalar that sucks! UK websites were pretty bad, most crashed, I didn't see any stock on Amazon before it went "out of stock" but scan UK did a pretty good job!
@@MrThirumalar keep checking best buy! I got mine nearly an hour after launch. Theyre supposedly releasing stock in waves
6 cores for next 10 years? Would be better if you get a cpu with 8 cores will be the next minimun like consoles
@@escarretada I don't believe consoles have access to all cores for gaming last I read, could be wrong. That being said, if later down the road you need to go 8 cores for whatever reason there are clearly options to upgrade. A lot more flexibility on an AM4 socket vd LGA 1200 right now.
I had to hit my inhaler when you slammed those boxes together. O_O
At this point it aint AMD vs INTEL anymore. Its more like AMD vs AMD.
Amd vs nvidia
@@MalazanTheFallen atm it looks like amd could have that competition as well although it atleast looks like a much tighter race and it really could come down to if either is willing to budge on price
10 years later AMD acquiring Intel. And watch how AMD turned into the evil corp intel, and the cycle repeats.
@@ainouta123 thinking the same thing
intel is in line to COMPLETLY ADOMINATE the garage/yard sale market in the spring. Do not forget that, the market needs to be prepared to react!
If I see that showing up in yard sales, I'll definitely be all over that.
Intel: “Put everything on sale! We can’t have them beat us at the high end AND at the budget end!”
If only I could actually get one! 6 am today. Refresh. Refresh. Sold out. 🤦🏻♂️
I got 3 already sold them on ebay and i m in profit of 30%
I even dobt have a pc but i kbow that can sell in good prices
I'm lucky then. Got my ryzen 7 hope you got it 👍
@Xai That's what he is capitalizing on :))))
@Xai idk but they bought from me
AMD: Infinity Fabric!
Thanos: I'm standing over there with them
The benchmarks are starting to come out. Looks like everyone's "Gaming king" was a false heir to the throne.
YUP lol
It's actually hilarious to see how bad AMD really did when you look at the benchmarks overall. They even had to go back on false statements.
and most ppl in the comments are too busy sucking off AMD
5000 series is better in gaming and productivity than 11th gen. Cry about it
I like how the background is an AMD vs Intel-esk theme
Red vs Blue
"Esque"
Wow... I had to pause the vid halfway through the results to go get a breath of fresh air, b/c I was not expecting those results. Good gravy.
Looking forward to the overclocking results video.
You should make a Phoenix themed rig with it, showing how AMD has reborn out of the fire and is ready to take on Intel
Ashes
@@matthiasschuster9505 haha oh yeah that makes more sense
Hey. I am aiming at that level of hardware next build. I can tell you I am happy with a 1080p monitor. I will eventually go to 1440p, but on things to do, it isn't all that high on my list. Getting new peripherals is higher on the list, as is getting stuff done around the house. Upgrading my monitor to 1440p is a minor concern for me.
I'm kinda the same way. I've never been able to play a modern game at max everything even right back to the original Half Life, had to turn stuff down on the family computer. With the way my current build is slowly evolving I would rather comfortably run 1080p with maximum everything on a higher refresh rate monitor than run 1440p with settings turned down.
Agree 1080p with high refresh rates more than sufficient for me.
Aside from gaming, 1440p is totally worth it.
Getting a 4k monitor was the best upgrade ever since I build my first PC in 2002, and I am still using a 750ti that can't play anything but Factorio at this resoluiton. Any use outside games greatly benefits a better monitor if you do use it for things outside gaming.
I remember when my RAM was 16MB. Now the cache is bigger than that. 😁
This is what happens when your intel and you sit on your ass "inovating" for years.
Intel literally held quad-core gaming back almost a decade.
Hey, Intel has been doing great at innovating new ways to extract more money our of their chips without improving anything.
@@MichaelPohoreski Thanks God it finished already...
Do not worry, AMD just finally caught up again, happened before, Intel will hit with their true next gen and will pound AMD into the floor boards. Lest We Forget the Core 2 Duo.
Over the last 25 years I've seen AMD have the lead a couple of times. Intel will be back, that you can be sure of.
"don't put that against the 1950... cuz the threadripper owner will just cry themselves to sleep for a week straight" - That's me! Got my order in this morning. I've been happy with the 1950 for years, so no regrets.
I'm a 1950 owner too and I'm fine with it. Gotten years of solid work out of this machine, it's kind of silly to compare price or performance to a product that came out so much later.
Besides which, one of the main reasons I went Threadripper in the first place was for the extra PCIe lanes, which I actually am using. So this wouldn't really be an upgrade in that regard...
@@kevadu Yeah a Zen 3 Thread ripper at this point gonna gonna be an untame-able monster
It's amazing that AMD has come back that far, took them a while to beat intel at gaming but they did it, at least with low resolution which is sadly less current with the new vga better at supporting 4k, just can't wait to see what intel will do to
compete with that, I have no dedication for any companys i just love competition and its looking good for next year.
Intel is like that bragging, only child that finally got what was coming to them.
Intel crying out please give me mercy amd is like sorry I am all out of mercy but amd vs nvida thye are both getting very close even tho nvida can easily make a gpu a slap it across amds face both companys have technology to make a dual gpu like the titan z that cane out could we see dual cards come back from both company's
Intel INVENTED the micro-processor, They are the reason any of you even know wtf a computer is 😂 “got what was coming to them” what in the actual fuck does that even mean
@@OneLovePsych Yes totally, because inventing something makes you the best. Next you'll say Ford is the best car company. You'd have to be a complete simpleton to deny AMD is spanking Intel in most categories even if you had your tongue on Intel's nuts.
@@OneLovePsych if they hadn't done it some one else would have. Being first only means so much. Most originators actually go out of business so....
Someone in the alley opened their IFIXIT! *explosions*
I think this just might be your greatest video ever Jay.
Pardon my mistake this video is Legendary.
You get a like AND a subscribe.
Welcome back Jay.
Broke: intel is researching their hardest for the next generation
Woke: GTA 6 is gonna have a mission where intel steals blueprints from AMD
But you are working for amd and retrieve them, so you make 36gb cache and a 128 core cpu
Intel need to do that in real life. They seem lost
“It would go to waste so I’m just gonna leave my intel in there.......”
Ouch, intel got demoted to his machine he plays solitaire on.
Waste?... has a wall of unused and probably never get used parts....thats a waste. lol
IIRC Linus discussed on the WAN show that "Glued together" is actually a technical term used in the industry, not an insult
Well Intel actually used it as an insult. The term might be technical, but not Intel's use of the term.
You gotta test these new cpu's with a new amd videocard's when you get your hands on before you build a workstation, or you might regret again but I digress
Of course they will as I'm sure they're curious if nothing else about smart memory access.
That crackling sound you have when showing the benchmark results is giving me the shivers big time XD
Intel, standing right back up: WhO wAnTs SoMe 14+++++?????
Intel Fanboys Be Like
*Next gen Intel is going to destroy AMD*
AMD: *Ryzen 6000, see you then*
6000 might be mobile cpus like the 4000 Series tho
AMD has 10% gains in gaming fps lol which is what 90% of gamers actually care about, its a minimal gain most gamers wont care about workstation speed
AMD: Zen 4, 5nm, I'll see you
@@trent4439 the mental gymnastics is hilarious. Intel had one advantage... Game fps. Now that amd has overtaken or leveled on that front, you say gains are minimal. Gtfo
next gen ryzen will be stupid fast.