FAKE KNIVES FROM ALI - HEAT TREAT RESULTS
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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you've seen the fakes...they're out there...but have you ever wondered how bad the heat treats actually are on those things? They arecmost definitely a waste of money....you'll never get your money back if you should ever decide to get rid of them..
and one day you will want to get rid of them...regardless of the heat treat...but the heat treat is what we are testing today. play along as we test 5 fake knives from Ali or some other store of the liking.
the fakes are copies of :
Strider SMF Performance Series
Strider SMF full ti
Strider SNG/ PT
Demko AD 20.5
Hinderer Project X
Maybe the real HRC is the friends weve made along the way
@@duuuude3208 most definitely 🤜🤛
Thanks for the great video sir. Found you straight from my recommended page FYI. Cheers from south central KS. 🍻 Y'all sound like my friends and family in Kentucky and Oklahoma it's familiar and comforting. Can't believe these tested so high. Makes me feel bad for these big companies
@@WyattWillis88 Nice to meet you and glad you're here! We're in TN. Yeah...I kinda figured they'd be softer myself. Welcome dude, make yourself at home.
Maybe do some lateral cutting on some hard burl with these knock offs to see what happens. Interesting. Thanks for the content.
Interesting, better results than expected. You know how I feel about this topic, but Interesting.
@@rustyknifelover4463 absolutely 💯
I've been looking forward to this. Assuming these are D2, 440C, 8 or 9 Cr, Aus8, or even AUS 10 that still isn't bad for cheap. I'd still buy "about as cheap" from a real brand that said what they were doing- like TwoSun, or even Ganzo. And tbh my favorite cheap knife is Opinel. I'm actually pretty OK with a knife that "cuts shit." :)
@@andrewfournier8817 that's about the best you can expect from a knife anyway unless it's an investment. Thanks for watching.
I would guess these are probably a CR series steel like 5cr, 7cr, etc or maybe d2 or 440 since they produce versions of them there. That said, I’m not surprised these days that they are heat treated to an “acceptable” hardness, 5-10 years ago I would’ve guessed otherwise. The entire industry is in one city over there and from my understanding it’s similar to how the Japanese knife industry was built up. It’s much more of a concerted effort with many shared services. So these blades probably went through the same heat treat facility that all the other knives made in yangjang went through as well as some of the other services. Plus who knows who’s making them in the first place, just sayin.
Kind of off topic but what I’ve always been quite surprised of is how cheap they can offer a milled titanium framelock. Also in turn how huge of a mark up some of these brands must be charging that get Ti frame locks OEM’d over there. Not my thing anyways and to each their own but I think some people would be surprised how cheap some of the OEM work is.
@@poncho151 dude you're spot on. I've heard a designer at kershaw say he can get a box of 40 knives at cost...for 8 bucks each. That's a 75 dollar msrp and probably a 60 dollar street price kershaw. Not titanium frame locks obviously but ...$60 liner lock kershsws with speed safe and a d2 steel.
@@apex_alchemy_knives that’s wild and a great example of massive profits! What’s even crazier that there’s a profit being made by the OEM on that 8 bucks too!
I’ll always have respect for and some forgiveness to the pricing of a brand like Benchmade which only has a USA made product line. It’s not a knock on brands like kershaw or even spyderco but I imagine it’s a lot easier to keep your stateside manufacturing going and prices down when you also have that sweet 500% markup OEM profit coming in as well lol.
Wow, I'm surprised those fakes were heat treated that well. Anyway great video, I really enjoy watching you guys hrc test knives.
@@paulmills426 thanks, you and me both
Glad I caught this one so soon. Good to know they are knives at least not just knife shaped objects.
Still not ordering any.
@@tombrown4683 right, be careful on the secondary market
He probably did buy these from the same seller id guess or if he bought it off of one of the big sellers on aliexpress the heat treat will be good or at least decent.
@@Shifftymking quite possible 💯
Very interesting results! Have y'all hit 2k?
@@BolsteredBlades we have , I believe it's around 2010 as of right now
@@apex_alchemy_knives 🎉🎉🎉 CONGRATS 🎉🎉🎉!!
Yeah they tested ok but it’s kinda like an old man using the little blue pill we all would prefer the real thing😂😂😂😂
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So, will these copycat blades hold an edge worth a darn or not?
@@nealjohnson8309 couldn't tell you, never used one long enough to find out but the numbers were better than expected...still we don't know the steel type. They could say it's anything...so we don't have a clue what the ideal number is for the unknown steel for edge retention.
My WarHorse clone was built better, the blade was ground far more evenly and it deburred and held an edge better than my legit WarHorse in CruWear.
There are some amazing values out there.
@@CNYKnifeNut that's a little sad ain't it
It seems you were upset because the fakes didn't show themselves to be so bad.😂
@@Warsmith_Honsou well I just kinda figured they would be , but you got my live reaction...good , bad or embarrassing...we ain't editing nothing round here 🤪🤣💯
so fakes are soft
@@kathleensmith370 some of them surely have to be...I'd imagine the inconsistency has to be worse but it's getting weird out there Kathleen.
Hi, interested in knife steels.
Australia
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@@merlingeikie me too but you know they aren't telling us the truth on the blade. The striders are claiming 154 cm , the demko is claiming aus10a , the hinderer is claiming magnacut ...no clue what any actually are unless we somehow could scan the metals.