Excellent video! Some good advice. I have a wide range of watches, my most luxury if I can use that term is Grand Seiko, Omega Seamaster and the Speed master. As my hobbies are scuba and mountaineering I have Orient and Seiko divers and G-Shocks for the mountains. Completely agree with not going for copies of originals from Ali Express but do strongly disagree with not buying from them at all. Examples, I have the original Seiko Tuna and Seiko 2nd gen Monster, both with mineral crystal and not great bracelets. I saw and bought a Steeldive Tuna homage with yellow dial, Seiko never made one and loved the colour. Same with a red dial Heimdallr Monster! Seiko never made one. On top of that both AE watches have sapphire crystals, original Seiko movements and far superior bracelets. Seiko isn't luxury of course so unlikely to be mugged for that. And even though I'm an Omega owner and I bought a Uranus Moonswatch, loved the colour scheme, great summer watch but....... total rubbish, got my money back after a pusher fell off and I got a blue stained wrist. Just trash. Anyway as I loved the colour I got on Ali Express a Pagani Design homage, except instead of being made of recycled ceramic toilet bowls and vegetable oil with a $2 one tick per second chronograph movement, the Pagani has a sapphire crystal, 316l Stainless Steel, 100m water resistance with screw down crown and a high beat Seiko mecaquartz movement, for $100 including import tax! And it doesn't look like a toy that came out of a Christmas cracker! Honestly I still cannot forgive Omega for allowing the brand name to be used on that 💩💩. So. We should not be quiet luxury watch snobs either. There are some good alternatives that are quite unique coming from Chinese watch makers, plus they do make very nice homages to watches by bigger brands that were discontinued way back in the 1960's and 70's. Most microbrands are actually doing the same thing, and have the watches manufactured in China, probably by the same factories that made mine. However I will never buy something that looks exactly like a Rolex from a distance for example, because it would be embarrassing if someone said "nice Rolex" and then realize it's not. Lol. Anyway I hate the cyclops,, it's the ugliest idea ever conceived. My friend who is a real enthusiast and has Patek, AP etc, calls the cyclops a pimple on the arse of horology. Excuse the colourful term! 😂
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Brian! I do agree on the embarassing faux pas risk with a Rolex clomage. I agree as well on your Moonswatch sentiments. And agree with the anti-watch snobbery sentiment when it comes to Aliexpress, that's why in the intro of the video, I mentioned it's for educational purposes only and I don't even follow them all myself. It's just my interpretation on the Quiet Luxury Trend, which is still in itself rooted in snobbery and classism. 😄
P.S. I wasn't feeling 100% when doing the voice overs on Friday night. You might hear me on the verge of coughing or my voice becoming very nasally towards the end. 🤧Turns out, I tested positive for the C-virus on Saturday morning! 😅 After taking some meds and vitamins, I'm a bit better but still coughing a lot. Hopefully, it goes away soon!
Great video and regardless of where we live or the environment we live in, being conservative in style has always seemed a bit more classy than a more flashy stance. I'm sure for the right occasion being "louder" in a fashion sense is appropriate at times. However reserved confidence, in my opinion, will always show refinement. We appreciate the content especially under the circumstances. I know we all hope you feel better soon Eve.
This was a timely video. I'm into a high-quality minimalist lifestyle. I live near Philadelphia in the US, where everyone is being robbed and killed daily. There is more sympathy for the criminal than the victim. People who defend themselves against the criminal have criminal charges against them. I'm sure this is how it is all around the world today. It's not a time to flaunt what you have, not even on social media, because someone will find where you are and go there to rob you.
I like what you said about vintage watches, though I'm still plucking up the courage to go that way. Thanks for your great ideas, Eve. Get well soon! 👍
@@juniorjohnson5961 For some time when it was new, it was kind of an affordable-luxury but quickly afterwards i guess it went too mainstream, that it's not seen as an affordable luxury anymore. 😅 As for the quiet part... Crocs have never been considered quiet. So... im going to say, not quiet luxury.
I am so jealous of that 70s date KS Hi-Beat! This is my "affordable grail" dress watch but still a bit too expensive to justify at this stage of my watch collecting journey. I know, it will only become more expensive the more I wait... 😥
Great video! Completely agree about self-worth and inner self-belief being the foundation of all things including a healthy attitude to watches. I'm a fan of small vintage dress watches where you can find some lovely examples from the likes of Omega and Longines for very little. Also think that vintage women's watches in general are spectacularly undervalued for the quality they represent.
There are also a lot of vintage watches for men that get overlooked because of the old sizing (too small for modern taste), which women can snap up. 😆 Thank you so much for watching and you made it to point 5! 🥳
🥰😅 great video, totally agree 🤗 there's been a lot of incidents in the UK recently with luxury watches being stolen 😢 the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and that all adds to more crime I guess 😢 you're totally right Eve😎👍
I'm going to push back a little. If it has to qualify for all three criteria "Quiet", "Luxurious", and "Budget", it is going to be difficult to avoid the Clomage space. Some micro-brands (yes, I am going to call them microbrands) coming out of Southern China over-deliver on value like very few others do. That said, I wouldn't include a Sub, a Speedy, or a GMT Master clomage in the list for exactly the reasons you mentioned. On the other hand, the Proxima on my wrist is an homage to a relatively less-known Seiko MarineMaster 300. It is a beautifully built, reliable, watch made by a dedicated one-man business. At €200, it feels far more luxurious than a Seiko 5. Same goes for the Sugess homage to the Zenith Chronomaster Heritage or the Seestern homage to the Doxa Sub 300T. Tool-watch divers that don't look flashy or instantly recognizable.
I accept the push back. 😁 The criteria for Quiet Luxury Budget is certainly very constraining but I think homages of lesser known watches do meet the "Quiet" criteria. For sure, the sub, speedy, GMT master is going to be hot on the eyes for sure and will certainly be not Quiet. 🎯 Thanks for bringing up this point and thanks for watching the video!
Regarding the microbrand term, I do think of some of the Chinese brands as microbrands (like Merkur) but not all them and I haven't really examined why I think that way. I want to get your opinion on this.
@@AliasEveWatches Cheers!🍮. The "Microbrand" definition seems to be pretty vague when it comes to specifics. Here's how I would break it down. "Micro" meaning small-scale - in terms of volumes of production, revenue or size of operations. What is the size threshold? I don't really know. "Brand" meaning a name, symbol or marker which represents some quality which separates the products of one maker/seller from their competition. so brand "Lamborghini" would stand for sexy aesthetics, desirability, and absolute performance (speed, acceleration, etc) and that would be significantly different from brand "Honda". By this logic, SteelDive stands for reasonable quality and unbeatable value, Underd0g Studios stands for colour and pop. Similarly, Stephen Yi's brand Proxima stands for quality, value, and creative engineering design IMO. I know what you are thinking 😁 "Where is the creativity in copying watches?". I'd recommend watching the below review by The Watcher to see their approach to modular case design: ua-cam.com/video/1gdgqHoANCs/v-deo.html
I do a similar thing with my watches since in South Africa violent crime is quite high and I do not want to make myself a target necessarily. The only watches I wear when I am out and about is black ones. They look like plastic and don't draw any attention. Having been stabbed in the past I really don't want to take the risk. 😅
Oh my gosh, stabbed! I'm glad you survived it. 😰 Regarding black, that's really stealthy for sure. They look like plastic from afar. I should have added that in the video. 🖤
@@AliasEveWatches Yeah... Crazy times we live in. Happened more than once actually haha. The last one was the worst, Got 9 stab wounds and they nearly severed my thumb. wasn't even wearing a watch at the time... Just walking to the shop to buy some stuff which was like 200m away from my home at the time. But what doesn't kill us makes us wiser or so the saying goes haha.
@@AliasEveWatches I am much more aware of my surroundings and have gone for training to better handle such situations. I also don't put myself in situations where the likelihood of a dangerous encounter could occur. I am also armed in most circumstances as attacks typically happen with more than one attacker. Those 9 wounds were done by two guys who I had to fight off.
what i love about my watches are that many of them are precisely NOT luxury, but very much working watches, often dive watches that are a perfect fit for my job on the water.
I remember you mention that they're all robust watches because of the nature of what you put them through 😄 Definitely high quality and maximizing cost per wear for sure!
For me, the SNKL45 because of the case shape and the simplicity of the dial! But more people are saying the SNXS dial looks more like a Rolex OP. It's tough, but I really liked the case of the SNKL45. 😄
I see some Seiko SRPE's (40mm case diameter) available for less than $200 on Amazon. They've got a better movement with the 4R36 vs. the 7S26 of the old Seiko 5's. 😁
Quick Tipp: Get yourself 1-3 suede leather straps in neutral colors like anthracite ore beige! It turns you’re watch feeling quick in more luxurious and sophisticated!
That's a great tip! I don't own a lot of suede but I do have 1 green strap in 18mm that I haven't opened yet! Which reminds me, I have to use it soon. 😆
I would not agree. I have a San Martin, model 6200. This is a clomage from the 1950s Rolex. I like it a lot. I dont think its loud, there are zillions of people who wear diver watches. What does the average robber know about watches to think im wearing a Rolex? I do like buying stuff on a budget. 400-500 usd for a watch is not the pocket budget for me but 200 USD is manageable. Why not buying a good specifications watch with no "history" ? Its a good value - not as a brand value or reselling value but as the wearing watch value. It will keep going for years. If it stops forever in 10 years im ok with it and could buy something else.
As mentioned in the pinned comment, this video isn't about clomages being good or bad -- just if it's "quiet luxury" or not, which is the latest trend on the internet. 😁 I've heard that San Martin watches are excellent quality watches.
@@AliasEveWatches I'm proud to say I have not purchase a watch since last year. I will make my first purchase of the year when the Tissot Powermatic 35mm comes out though. What do you think?
@@AliasEveWatches The 40mm is too big for my wrist, so the 35mm is perfect. It is rumored to be release this or next month. By the way, the Baltic MR-01 is back in stock! 😱
Excellent video! Some good advice. I have a wide range of watches, my most luxury if I can use that term is Grand Seiko, Omega Seamaster and the Speed master. As my hobbies are scuba and mountaineering I have Orient and Seiko divers and G-Shocks for the mountains. Completely agree with not going for copies of originals from Ali Express but do strongly disagree with not buying from them at all. Examples, I have the original Seiko Tuna and Seiko 2nd gen Monster, both with mineral crystal and not great bracelets. I saw and bought a Steeldive Tuna homage with yellow dial, Seiko never made one and loved the colour. Same with a red dial Heimdallr Monster! Seiko never made one. On top of that both AE watches have sapphire crystals, original Seiko movements and far superior bracelets. Seiko isn't luxury of course so unlikely to be mugged for that. And even though I'm an Omega owner and I bought a Uranus Moonswatch, loved the colour scheme, great summer watch but....... total rubbish, got my money back after a pusher fell off and I got a blue stained wrist. Just trash. Anyway as I loved the colour I got on Ali Express a Pagani Design homage, except instead of being made of recycled ceramic toilet bowls and vegetable oil with a $2 one tick per second chronograph movement, the Pagani has a sapphire crystal, 316l Stainless Steel, 100m water resistance with screw down crown and a high beat Seiko mecaquartz movement, for $100 including import tax! And it doesn't look like a toy that came out of a Christmas cracker! Honestly I still cannot forgive Omega for allowing the brand name to be used on that 💩💩. So. We should not be quiet luxury watch snobs either. There are some good alternatives that are quite unique coming from Chinese watch makers, plus they do make very nice homages to watches by bigger brands that were discontinued way back in the 1960's and 70's. Most microbrands are actually doing the same thing, and have the watches manufactured in China, probably by the same factories that made mine. However I will never buy something that looks exactly like a Rolex from a distance for example, because it would be embarrassing if someone said "nice Rolex" and then realize it's not. Lol. Anyway I hate the cyclops,, it's the ugliest idea ever conceived. My friend who is a real enthusiast and has Patek, AP etc, calls the cyclops a pimple on the arse of horology. Excuse the colourful term! 😂
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Brian! I do agree on the embarassing faux pas risk with a Rolex clomage. I agree as well on your Moonswatch sentiments. And agree with the anti-watch snobbery sentiment when it comes to Aliexpress, that's why in the intro of the video, I mentioned it's for educational purposes only and I don't even follow them all myself. It's just my interpretation on the Quiet Luxury Trend, which is still in itself rooted in snobbery and classism. 😄
@@AliasEveWatches 🤣🤣👏👏👏
P.S. I wasn't feeling 100% when doing the voice overs on Friday night. You might hear me on the verge of coughing or my voice becoming very nasally towards the end. 🤧Turns out, I tested positive for the C-virus on Saturday morning! 😅 After taking some meds and vitamins, I'm a bit better but still coughing a lot. Hopefully, it goes away soon!
hope u’ll get well soon….🫶🏻
@@reezevlog Thanks Reeze!
Hope you feel better soon!
@@johanvandersandt8904 Thanks Johan! 😷
I hope you feel better!
Interesting topic and one that needs to be discussed more in our world. Really happy to see another video from you 👏
Thank you so much! I feel like this is such a Debbie-downer topic, just when Watches and Wonders just concluded last week. 😅
@@AliasEveWatches In the contrary, this is a reality check for a lot of us 👍🏼
Similar to Point 5, the watches we buy should compliment us, not be used to try and complete us.
AE, feel better and get well soon.
Thank you so much! Well-said. 😄
I like going for the low class look. I can really pull it off. 😁
Good for you to know your style very well! 😁
This was a fun episode Eve! well done. Hope you are feeling better!
Thanks Levi! Huge improvement from Friday night/Saturday morning. :)
Great video and regardless of where we live or the environment we live in, being conservative in style has always seemed a bit more classy than a more flashy stance. I'm sure for the right occasion being "louder" in a fashion sense is appropriate at times. However reserved confidence, in my opinion, will always show refinement.
We appreciate the content especially under the circumstances. I know we all hope you feel better soon Eve.
Thank you James! Definitely less flashy is more classy. Great point as well with the refinement.
This was a timely video.
I'm into a high-quality minimalist lifestyle.
I live near Philadelphia in the US, where everyone is being robbed and killed daily.
There is more sympathy for the criminal than the victim. People who defend themselves against the criminal have criminal charges against them. I'm sure this is how it is all around the world today.
It's not a time to flaunt what you have, not even on social media, because someone will find where you are and go there to rob you.
It's a scary world today. It's crazy-unfair that there's more sympathy for the criminal and there's no respect in general.
Great video, Eve, thank you 😊👍. Number 5 was especially good and did not know about the leather names.
Thanks for watching, Scott! 😁 I'm glad you learned something new with the leather names. 😄
I like what you said about vintage watches, though I'm still plucking up the courage to go that way.
Thanks for your great ideas, Eve. Get well soon! 👍
Thanks for watching! I hope you find a really affordable vintage watch you like so you can dip your toe in the vintage world. 😁
Are Crocs quiet luxury
Crocs the footwear or crocs the pattern on straps? 🤔
@@AliasEveWatches Footwear 👞
@@juniorjohnson5961 For some time when it was new, it was kind of an affordable-luxury but quickly afterwards i guess it went too mainstream, that it's not seen as an affordable luxury anymore. 😅 As for the quiet part... Crocs have never been considered quiet. So... im going to say, not quiet luxury.
I am so jealous of that 70s date KS Hi-Beat! This is my "affordable grail" dress watch but still a bit too expensive to justify at this stage of my watch collecting journey. I know, it will only become more expensive the more I wait... 😥
I'm lucky I got mine in 2019! 😅 The dial is in such a great shape too. I'm seeing some on ebay now with a nice near-mint condition for $449.... 😆😆😆
Enjoyable video, the whole watch mugging in the UK is way out of hand, fortunately I'd never be a target with my budget....🏴⌚🏴⌚
Still, be very careful! The more people get desperate, the higher the likelihood of anyone being targeted. 😔 Thanks for watching!
@@AliasEveWatches I have eyes in the back of my head....
@@briancolyer8483 👀
Great video! Completely agree about self-worth and inner self-belief being the foundation of all things including a healthy attitude to watches. I'm a fan of small vintage dress watches where you can find some lovely examples from the likes of Omega and Longines for very little. Also think that vintage women's watches in general are spectacularly undervalued for the quality they represent.
There are also a lot of vintage watches for men that get overlooked because of the old sizing (too small for modern taste), which women can snap up. 😆 Thank you so much for watching and you made it to point 5! 🥳
Ok, this is a unique and refreshing video
Thank you so much! I'm glad you stumbled upon this video. :)
I came from Ross Wristwatchlove
@@Trapvision3D Woohoo, thanks to P Ross and his recent video!
@@Trapvision3D Oooh I hope you've seen my video from a few years back where I interview P Ross in memoji format. :) It's in the #WatchFamChats series!
I'm going to watch it for sure. I really dig the overall vibe of your channel.
That’s why my next purchase will be a Nomos! Understated watches that have loads to offer for enthusiasts but are not flashy.
Chuck @theonetruewatch has loads of great photos of nomos which has gotten me pining over nomos too!
Get well sooon bruvv!!
Thank you! 😁 I'm all better now!
Awesome 👌 job, Eve. I need to add a godly gold watch to my collection in the future
Thanks for watching! If picking a gold watch, be sure to pick a subtle one. More classy, less flashy! 😆
🥰😅 great video, totally agree 🤗 there's been a lot of incidents in the UK recently with luxury watches being stolen 😢 the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and that all adds to more crime I guess 😢 you're totally right Eve😎👍
I hope you stay safe where you are! Thanks for watching! 😁
I'm going to push back a little. If it has to qualify for all three criteria "Quiet", "Luxurious", and "Budget", it is going to be difficult to avoid the Clomage space. Some micro-brands (yes, I am going to call them microbrands) coming out of Southern China over-deliver on value like very few others do. That said, I wouldn't include a Sub, a Speedy, or a GMT Master clomage in the list for exactly the reasons you mentioned.
On the other hand, the Proxima on my wrist is an homage to a relatively less-known Seiko MarineMaster 300. It is a beautifully built, reliable, watch made by a dedicated one-man business. At €200, it feels far more luxurious than a Seiko 5. Same goes for the Sugess homage to the Zenith Chronomaster Heritage or the Seestern homage to the Doxa Sub 300T. Tool-watch divers that don't look flashy or instantly recognizable.
I accept the push back. 😁 The criteria for Quiet Luxury Budget is certainly very constraining but I think homages of lesser known watches do meet the "Quiet" criteria.
For sure, the sub, speedy, GMT master is going to be hot on the eyes for sure and will certainly be not Quiet. 🎯
Thanks for bringing up this point and thanks for watching the video!
Regarding the microbrand term, I do think of some of the Chinese brands as microbrands (like Merkur) but not all them and I haven't really examined why I think that way. I want to get your opinion on this.
@@AliasEveWatches Cheers!🍮. The "Microbrand" definition seems to be pretty vague when it comes to specifics. Here's how I would break it down.
"Micro" meaning small-scale - in terms of volumes of production, revenue or size of operations. What is the size threshold? I don't really know.
"Brand" meaning a name, symbol or marker which represents some quality which separates the products of one maker/seller from their competition. so brand "Lamborghini" would stand for sexy aesthetics, desirability, and absolute performance (speed, acceleration, etc) and that would be significantly different from brand "Honda". By this logic, SteelDive stands for reasonable quality and unbeatable value, Underd0g Studios stands for colour and pop. Similarly, Stephen Yi's brand Proxima stands for quality, value, and creative engineering design IMO. I know what you are thinking 😁 "Where is the creativity in copying watches?". I'd recommend watching the below review by The Watcher to see their approach to modular case design:
ua-cam.com/video/1gdgqHoANCs/v-deo.html
I do a similar thing with my watches since in South Africa violent crime is quite high and I do not want to make myself a target necessarily. The only watches I wear when I am out and about is black ones. They look like plastic and don't draw any attention. Having been stabbed in the past I really don't want to take the risk. 😅
Oh my gosh, stabbed! I'm glad you survived it. 😰
Regarding black, that's really stealthy for sure. They look like plastic from afar. I should have added that in the video. 🖤
@@AliasEveWatches Yeah... Crazy times we live in. Happened more than once actually haha. The last one was the worst, Got 9 stab wounds and they nearly severed my thumb. wasn't even wearing a watch at the time... Just walking to the shop to buy some stuff which was like 200m away from my home at the time. But what doesn't kill us makes us wiser or so the saying goes haha.
@@johanvandersandt8904 WHAAAAAATTTTTT 9 TIMES?!?!
@@johanvandersandt8904 So after that experience so close your house, what have you changed?
@@AliasEveWatches I am much more aware of my surroundings and have gone for training to better handle such situations. I also don't put myself in situations where the likelihood of a dangerous encounter could occur. I am also armed in most circumstances as attacks typically happen with more than one attacker. Those 9 wounds were done by two guys who I had to fight off.
quiet luxury is one thing…. for me, stealth wealth is the way to go…🤐🤫 keep it low key
I agree! In the end, Stealth Wealth is the goal rather than Quiet Luxury in itself. :)
what i love about my watches are that many of them are precisely NOT luxury, but very much working watches, often dive watches that are a perfect fit for my job on the water.
I remember you mention that they're all robust watches because of the nature of what you put them through 😄 Definitely high quality and maximizing cost per wear for sure!
@@AliasEveWatches absolutely! and maybe in a sense, having a tool that fits the purpose is the best luxury one could have!
@@punkypink83 I love your way of thinking, Emily! 😁
My 'if you know you know' watch brand of choice is Credor. Personally, I only wear dress watches, which are by nature discrete.
Great choice! I've got the affordable vintage Credor ones so i was happy when you said Credor. 😁
Can u tell me which was i more appealing in b/w seiko snxs79 and seiko snkl45?? I am confused b/w these two🥹🥹
Also any other suggestions below 200$ would be appreciated👉👈
(Wrist size-> 6.25 inch)
For me, the SNKL45 because of the case shape and the simplicity of the dial! But more people are saying the SNXS dial looks more like a Rolex OP. It's tough, but I really liked the case of the SNKL45. 😄
I see some Seiko SRPE's (40mm case diameter) available for less than $200 on Amazon. They've got a better movement with the 4R36 vs. the 7S26 of the old Seiko 5's. 😁
@@AliasEveWatches thanks for the reply and sucha suggestions!!!!
@@deepanshusharma9173 You're welcome!!
Quick Tipp:
Get yourself 1-3 suede leather straps in neutral colors like anthracite ore beige!
It turns you’re watch feeling quick in more luxurious and sophisticated!
That's a great tip! I don't own a lot of suede but I do have 1 green strap in 18mm that I haven't opened yet! Which reminds me, I have to use it soon. 😆
I would not agree. I have a San Martin, model 6200. This is a clomage from the 1950s Rolex. I like it a lot. I dont think its loud, there are zillions of people who wear diver watches. What does the average robber know about watches to think im wearing a Rolex? I do like buying stuff on a budget. 400-500 usd for a watch is not the pocket budget for me but 200 USD is manageable. Why not buying a good specifications watch with no "history" ? Its a good value - not as a brand value or reselling value but as the wearing watch value. It will keep going for years. If it stops forever in 10 years im ok with it and could buy something else.
As mentioned in the pinned comment, this video isn't about clomages being good or bad -- just if it's "quiet luxury" or not, which is the latest trend on the internet. 😁 I've heard that San Martin watches are excellent quality watches.
Owning Bitcoin is the ultimate quiet luxury.😛
True but there are those who are not quiet about it! 😂
@@AliasEveWatches I'm proud to say I have not purchase a watch since last year. I will make my first purchase of the year when the Tissot Powermatic 35mm comes out though. What do you think?
@@Jammi354 Is it the Tissot PRX Powermatic 35mm? 😮 Great choice!
@@AliasEveWatches The 40mm is too big for my wrist, so the 35mm is perfect. It is rumored to be release this or next month. By the way, the Baltic MR-01 is back in stock! 😱
@@Jammi354 Which one would you prefer? The Baltic or the Tissot? 😜
Hey Eve I have bad news for your wallet. CW just released the 12 on 36mm!
I've been seeing it all over my youtube feed and instagram feed and it is beautiful!!!