Benioff & Weiss Confirm Their "3 Body Problem Series" Is Not a Strict Adaptation of the Books
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Benioff & Weiss Confirm Their "3 Body Problem Series" Is Not a Strict Adaptation of the Books
You THRONE and CROWN grapplers really should LEARN how to let go when it comes to a SCIENCE FICTION SPACE OPERA. Even James Kirk had to learn to LET IT GO when it came to ENTERPRISE. These two writers have ALL THE DEVICES IN THE STORY TO GET TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION. Not trying to QUOTE Hellboy 2 The Golden Army here, but if it is OUR SPECIES TIME to fade away? Then LET US meet that Final Destination on OUR TERMS.
We _will not_ “fade”! I call upon all of us to rage against the dying of the light! The good, the bad, and the _worst!_
Dear God, Cixin Liu should have talked to GRRM before giving D&D his blessing to “adapt it however [they] see fit”. 🤦♀️😢
At least this will likely sink their careers as showrunners so they won't be able to do this to any other IP's ever again.
@@needsanameedit4982 👍🙏 We can only hope.
I swear it's like these two idiots heard the phrase "actors make the roles their own", didn't understand what it meant, and thought it meant that actors make characters more like themselves or something.
Even when the actors begged them not to
As I figured. We going to get Samwell Tarly as the protagonist with minimal Chinese representation. It's not even a -political thing for me. It's just Dumb & Dumber being inadvertently disrespectful. They can't help themselves and the show will suffer for it.
he's not even one of the alleged "Oxford Five"...but they use him so prominently
Squid Game is the most watched series on Netflix and that's an all Korean cast.
…yeah
Writing characters specifically for the actors can be done well, that's what Lost did but if you want to do that don't sign up to do an adaptation, that's just shows that you can't actually write.
As a fan of the series I'm not gonna put my faith onto the Netflix D&D adaptation, i'm still gonna watch it tho but will treat it like a fanfic rather than an actual adaptation.
The Chinese series from Tencent is what I would call a proper adaptation and I really enjoyed every moment of that show, you can tell this is a labour of love and these people behind the camera really care about the source material, and I'm really looking forward to see what they would do with the 2nd season which will be a direct adaptation of book 2, cuz I know the show is in good hands.
D&D+Rian Johnson, a three body problem indeed.
Me seeing TDD posting a 30 minute video : Is this the full video or is this just the short summary? 🤔
Well it's one big two hour report I split into multiple videos by subtopic
They will ruin it somehow, you watch the characters teleport across the solar system or something in an instant, they really will be faster than light. They will put the teleporting Greyborn fleet to shame.
Seeing as it's Netflix they'll probably cancel it after three seasons and never finish it.
I think Netflix paid too much for 3BP for that. It's like how Amazon has to keep making ROP even though it had a less than 50% completion rate.
Hmm, Where have we seen this before… 🤔
poor summer children, yet to face the ruin these hacks bring about... production reports are going to be entralling, fire burns pretty from a distance
ok maybe i went too flowery there. sad situation we are in in fairness, but for our niche viewers of yours, not so bad. similar vibe to Littlefinger watching consequences of Cersei's ruling. only question left is if someone carries the show despite them
you can see the same pattern happening to them in slow motion: first comes the denial and projection, then the rationalization.
I also wonder if "we re-conceived the character to be worthy f the actor's talents" is also partly because they need to imagine the actual actor that they have met reacting to the situation when writing because they can't write characters or hold a character in their mind. The reason that they then right a 2 dimensional character anyway is because they don't even view the people they actually know in 3d, because they lack empathy or theory of mind.
Even in his books, the main character is always obviously an author insert of Benioff himself, with blatant physical similarities. He’s not very imaginative. Compare to how GRRM can write a wide range of characters very well. What this says about “theory of mind”…
They know the actors don’t match up the characters in the books so this is why they need to rewrite everything.
Typecasting actors. Exactly what all good actors want right 😂
I wish all the main characters where Chinese just like the book :/
The only reasom Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum fooled people, the press, and the public for as long as they did at HBO was because HBO provided them with a solid safety net of the most talented TV directors, cinematographers, costume designers, armorers, visual effects artists.
I seriously doubt the two bozo’s personally hired and assembled the crew that was needed to prop them up and veil their incompetence.
HBO did because I have no doubt they were fully aware they would have to after the notoriously disastrous pilot.
Is Netflix also coddling these guys with a safety net of all the top TV directors, costume designers, special effects crew, and set designers?
Does Netflix have the money and experience to coddle and cover for these two as HBO did?
Do you know any production stories about the other projects that appear on Benioff and Weiss's IMDBs? Metal Lords, The Chair and Benioff's screenplay on Gemini Man. None of them seem particularly good, but i'm not sure where they sit on the chronology between end of Thrones and this show. They seem like they would've been in development or written pre season 8, but that seems like yet another distraction instead of focusing on GOT.
If Ye Wenjie has no daughter, and Wang Miao has been erased, then it would seem that the writers have taken the characters and turned them into archetypes, then in casting have gone one further to create lite versions to carry the plot and themes without much substance... and invented some nonsense characters bc they think they're cool and relatable and there's a hokey Oxford Five dynamic to make everything as multi-culti as St Pancras Station, then yeah, it's loose. Just saw today's final trailer. Tends to reinforce my assumptions - I've seen the Tencent version, it has flaws, but speaks to people, place, world.
I think in a few years when this show is done if the consensus is positive I will check this out. I’m not investing anytime on the front end. I have no doubt that with help they can produce some entertaining episodes of tv. The first season of Lost had a lot of entertaining episodes. I don’t trust these two to actually tell a good story over the life of the show. The way they destroyed every character arc in GoT makes it very hard to go back and watch the early seasons knowing how they screw it all up. I’m not investing anytime in anything they do until they prove they won’t completely ruin it.
I really hope this "international" approach backfires and people criticize this for whitewashing the story.
I knew it. The trailers confirm this. They are gna f**k this up, just like they did GOT. Another beloved book series bites the dust. I know Ye Wenjie isn't gna be the main character in S1 and that is bad.
What do you mean by her being the main character? I thought Wang Miao was the mc of book 1. Of course in Wenjie’s backstory we will have her point of view and that is included in the show.
@@guitarplayer-wx9hi half of b1 is Ye Wenjie and half is Wang. From what I've seen and heard from the show, Ye Wenjie isnt in it much, the focus is on 'the Oxford 5' and Wang miao has been replaced by either 1 or all of the 'Oxford 5'.
It isn't going to be a faithful adaptation, at all, but a version for 'the normies'. Just my take on what I've read / seen / heard/ watched.
There's nothing wrong with not doing a line-by-line adaptation of a book. When it comes to an adaptation of a book to scene you have to know that some things that work on the page don't necessarily work on scene. The main thing with an adaptation is to keep the *heart* of the story. The problem when it comes to D&D is that they have ZERO CLUE about this VERY BASIC idea when it comes to adapting a work from page to scene. Not only that, they have ZERO CLUE how to actually WRITE FOR THE SCREEN. I remember when someone went to the WGA library and made available online copies of the Season 7 scripts and was absolutely stunned by how many things that SHOULD have been conveyed on screen were only put in the stage direction and notes. I knew when I saw those scrips that those two had no idea how to write for a visual medium.
I never had any faith that they would have learned the basics of screenwriting before they started adapting this book for the screen. So I'm not surprised about anything of this news at all. I'm also betting no one, including the author of the book, asked Benioff if he still thinks themes are for 8th-grade book reports.
Yeah I reported on that: check out my playlist on “scripts analysis”
Ryan Johnson isn't going to be reigning anybody in because he's not the Ryan Johnson who directed Ozymandias anymore. He's just another guy that lost a Star Wars trilogy and now craps out minimum viable product content with recognizable actors for Netflix.
So really he should fit right in.
To answer your question at the end, D&D wrote most of the episodes yet again.
More like The Two Writer Problem.
Today I chedked the casting, there's no Wang Miao. I don't want an international version, the books are international enough. A bunch of actors from GOT won't make it better.
Well even a good adaptation could “internationalize” the cast - my point is they’re not simply renaming and race swapping them. They’re just showing off actors
Yes, I know. You've shown it clear in your previous videos about GOT. I can't unee it anymore..
Three creatives I hate and have nothing but contempt for involved in the same project. Great. Rian Johnson david Bennioff db Weiss are the kiss of death at this point
Nothing changes. Seriously, you might want to do a short livestream read through of this article, it’s like a new chapter of fire cannot kill a dragon - tone deaf, supercilious, self important, it’s not even effective propaganda
@@thedragondemands5186 definitely
@@lordinquisitordunn336 would you like copies of Benioff's hilariously had short stories? And I finally ripped the insane DVD commentary for 25th Hour
@@thedragondemands5186 yes I would that would be awesome
@@lordinquisitordunn336 well start with a breakdown of the THR interview I guess
it's funny that these guys are poised to ruin another book series I love. they're like cartoonishly evil