There is no best BFS rod, there are different BFS rods for different situations. There are your classic Bass BFS rods that sit between 6-6’6 light, with a stiff backbone but soft tip for an extra fast action. These handle small jigs (very small like 3/16 and down), or Neko rigs and smaller weightless baits. There are power baitfinesse rods that are built for thicker fluoro or PE (Braid), these usually come in 6’6M-Solid tip, 67MH-Solid tip, and 70H-Solid tip, mainly for power finesse, the ratings are confusing. These rods usually have an upper rating that is a lot lower than the power rating suggested. These are for finesse baits in heavy brush, or weightless high gravity baits (Senko or fluke). Then there’s trout BFS rods which are super light and tend to be slower action, built for little spoons. BFS is also not about casting the smallest bait on bait casting gear. It’s about getting a good balance where you can cast a smaller bait and work it well, and utilize the stiff backbone typical of Bass BFS rods to get fish out of cover, the extent of cover depending on whether you’re using a classic BFS rod or a power BFS. I find BFS is misunderstood in the US in which it’s a contest to see how small you can cast, BFS was designed to excel in certain situations pointed out.
Informative rod breakdown Pete. I use the Dobyns 650C with my 23' Calcutta Conquest BFS XG (What a Reel!) or my 16' Aldebaran when I'm fishing Trout. For dual Trout/Bass applications, I use the Dobyns 691C with my 16' Aldebaran or 17' Scorpion BFS and for my heavier Bass Applications, I use a Shimano 7' light power Sensilite with my Curado BFS.
I'm more into 3" walking baits, the tiny whoppet plopper, small T rig stuff with lighter gauge hooks, tiny crankbaits, mini chatterbaits, super fluke JR and wacky finesse worms while being able to get decent hooksets Do you think the sensilite wpuld serve me well? It is in a favorable price point for me. I simply have no intent on throwing 1/64oz stuff (and of I do, I have plenty of spinning gear) Thoughts? Likely going with the tsurinoya genius. I dont need an expensive setup, just one that gets the job done.
@@mattfleming86 it's perfect for all the techniques you mentioned. It's a true light power so you can use it for Topwater, moving baits or bottom and it matches perfectly with the Curado. I run Varivas 8LB Trout in gold color or Super Trout Advanced in Champaign color.aaaa
I own the Dobyns 740 and absolutely love it. Balances wonderfully with an Aldebaran BFS. I use 8lb braid to 8lb leader to Throw okashira screwheads a mile and slow roll them back. Fantastic hookup ratio. I own the old expride BFS. Wouldn’t call that a BFS. Maybe the new version is lighter power?
I'm coming back to the fishing scene after about an 8 year break and it's interesting to see what the current trends are. BFS wasn't a thing back then but I remember thinking how cool it would be to throw micro baits on a baitcaster. I was already doing bfs style fishing on ultra light spinning gear. I would run micro drop shots, Carolina rigs, jigs, and even soft plastics. It's an extremely fun way to fish, so I understand where people are coming from who have gone all in. The pricing however is pretty shocking. So while it's exciting to see an ultra light set up in baitcasting gear, it's a bit of a turn off to pay so much for things you can already do with less expensive spinning gear. That said, fishing is a fun hobby and sometimes you just have to do the small things that bring joy to your life. Life is short. So I will be buying my first entry level bfs set and go from there.
There's more than one Dobyns Sierra BFS 7' rods was it the 701c or the 700c? Thanks for showing how they bend, I'm always looking for more bfs rods...FishOn...Jim
I have both the 700 and the 701. The 700 is listed as an extra fast rod. The 701 is listed as a fast. Since he called it out as an x-fast action, I would assume this is the 700 but later he talks about the ability to throw stuff a little bigger than what would be considered BFS and that lends to the 701. The 700 is a limp noodle in my opinion, and cannot handle anything over 3/16 oz. Having both the 700 and the 701 as well as an Expride in the 6'8" light, the 700 is by far the softest of the 3. All that to say. I don't know if I agree with his assessment on this particular rod.
My PB came on a Dobyns SUF700C on a 1/8 finesse jig and a TRD Crawz. I prefer jig fishing, in general, on a casting setup over spinning, so I have a micro jig tied on almost all the time.
I got 2 Ozark trails made by zebco 6'6" Fuji seat eyes, winn grips im8 8-12lb fast. To extra. Use one for 3in swim baits8lb line. Other for jerk bait 12 lb line. 5 bucks clearance would've paid 40.
It's not taking off in your store because we can buy JDM rods and reels for half the price you're charging by buying directly from Japan. They also have way more options to choose from that we can't even get in the States.
These rods and reels have replaced all my ultra light spinning reels I use the jenko double down and soloking Acura bfs reel I can’t imagine using anything else for crappie and bass
I can't believe you left out the St Croix mojo bass trigon ml rod. It's labeled as a bfs light treble rod, but it's more than that. It actually has quite a bit of backbone. It's a very versatile rod and a easy transition rod into bfs. It must be popular you're always sold out of them.
BFS is like tenkara…having the industry trying to force a new style of fishing into an established market that already works is just counter productive. Very few people will buy all new equipment just to do what you are already doing. These techniques aren’t solving a problem. They are just selling you different equipment.
if your saying that because "spinning rod does the same" kinda guy your missing the point. only thing that's a bit odd is in USA we call small lures BFS while in japan (who have been doing it for at least 10 years now) their heaviest BFS is still lighter than 99% of USA "BFS"
But, we had lighter bait casting rods for a while, back in the 1980’s and 1990’s. Then, when everybody went crazy watching the pro bass tournaments, manufacturers started pushing broomstick rods with no bend when you cast a lure or play a 12” bass. I have an All-Star light power medium action rated 6-12 lb. line that I can cast 1/8 oz lures. This BFS trend goes to show you, marketing something different is what makes money, even if the “different” is just a change in the label of a trend.
Listing links or rod names in detail in the description is helpful.
Yas!
There is no best BFS rod, there are different BFS rods for different situations. There are your classic Bass BFS rods that sit between 6-6’6 light, with a stiff backbone but soft tip for an extra fast action. These handle small jigs (very small like 3/16 and down), or Neko rigs and smaller weightless baits. There are power baitfinesse rods that are built for thicker fluoro or PE (Braid), these usually come in 6’6M-Solid tip, 67MH-Solid tip, and 70H-Solid tip, mainly for power finesse, the ratings are confusing. These rods usually have an upper rating that is a lot lower than the power rating suggested. These are for finesse baits in heavy brush, or weightless high gravity baits (Senko or fluke). Then there’s trout BFS rods which are super light and tend to be slower action, built for little spoons. BFS is also not about casting the smallest bait on bait casting gear. It’s about getting a good balance where you can cast a smaller bait and work it well, and utilize the stiff backbone typical of Bass BFS rods to get fish out of cover, the extent of cover depending on whether you’re using a classic BFS rod or a power BFS. I find BFS is misunderstood in the US in which it’s a contest to see how small you can cast, BFS was designed to excel in certain situations pointed out.
Your rod testings are really informative. Thank you
Informative rod breakdown Pete. I use the Dobyns 650C with my 23' Calcutta Conquest BFS XG (What a Reel!) or my 16' Aldebaran when I'm fishing Trout. For dual Trout/Bass applications, I use the Dobyns 691C with my 16' Aldebaran or 17' Scorpion BFS and for my heavier Bass Applications, I use a Shimano 7' light power Sensilite with my Curado BFS.
I'm more into 3" walking baits, the tiny whoppet plopper, small T rig stuff with lighter gauge hooks, tiny crankbaits, mini chatterbaits, super fluke JR and wacky finesse worms while being able to get decent hooksets
Do you think the sensilite wpuld serve me well? It is in a favorable price point for me. I simply have no intent on throwing 1/64oz stuff (and of I do, I have plenty of spinning gear) Thoughts? Likely going with the tsurinoya genius.
I dont need an expensive setup, just one that gets the job done.
@@mattfleming86 it's perfect for all the techniques you mentioned. It's a true light power so you can use it for Topwater, moving baits or bottom and it matches perfectly with the Curado. I run Varivas 8LB Trout in gold color or Super Trout Advanced in Champaign color.aaaa
I own the Dobyns 740 and absolutely love it. Balances wonderfully with an Aldebaran BFS. I use 8lb braid to 8lb leader to Throw okashira screwheads a mile and slow roll them back. Fantastic hookup ratio. I own the old expride BFS. Wouldn’t call that a BFS. Maybe the new version is lighter power?
I’ve put together my own on Xray 2 power blanks with exo handles. They come in at 2 ounces even, with rec guides, fast action. I love em.
I just got the Dobyns 701. I’m waiting for the reel to come so I can test it out. Can’t wait to try it.
I'm coming back to the fishing scene after about an 8 year break and it's interesting to see what the current trends are. BFS wasn't a thing back then but I remember thinking how cool it would be to throw micro baits on a baitcaster. I was already doing bfs style fishing on ultra light spinning gear. I would run micro drop shots, Carolina rigs, jigs, and even soft plastics. It's an extremely fun way to fish, so I understand where people are coming from who have gone all in.
The pricing however is pretty shocking. So while it's exciting to see an ultra light set up in baitcasting gear, it's a bit of a turn off to pay so much for things you can already do with less expensive spinning gear.
That said, fishing is a fun hobby and sometimes you just have to do the small things that bring joy to your life. Life is short. So I will be buying my first entry level bfs set and go from there.
There's more than one Dobyns Sierra BFS 7' rods was it the 701c or the 700c? Thanks for showing how they bend, I'm always looking for more bfs rods...FishOn...Jim
I have both the 700 and the 701. The 700 is listed as an extra fast rod. The 701 is listed as a fast. Since he called it out as an x-fast action, I would assume this is the 700 but later he talks about the ability to throw stuff a little bigger than what would be considered BFS and that lends to the 701. The 700 is a limp noodle in my opinion, and cannot handle anything over 3/16 oz. Having both the 700 and the 701 as well as an Expride in the 6'8" light, the 700 is by far the softest of the 3. All that to say. I don't know if I agree with his assessment on this particular rod.
My PB came on a Dobyns SUF700C on a 1/8 finesse jig and a TRD Crawz. I prefer jig fishing, in general, on a casting setup over spinning, so I have a micro jig tied on almost all the time.
I’ve found the cashion icon bfs to be amazing
The 6”10 medium light? I’m thinking about getting the cashion element 6”10 medium light. For my first bfs condo
Would the Shimano Expride BFS make a good casting drop shot rod? Maybe too fast in Tip ?
I got 2 Ozark trails made by zebco 6'6" Fuji seat eyes, winn grips im8 8-12lb fast. To extra. Use one for 3in swim baits8lb line. Other for jerk bait 12 lb line. 5 bucks clearance would've paid 40.
It's not taking off in your store because we can buy JDM rods and reels for half the price you're charging by buying directly from Japan. They also have way more options to choose from that we can't even get in the States.
Would love for you to add links to the rods you demo.
Which Dobyns 7’ was this? 700 or 701? I need one.
Great info and thanks for sharing.
If you go BFS or Finesse I would suggest you go UL rods, you can whip them 1/32oz lures far
I think you need to add a value rod like the BFS Rods from Major Craft. I have had a couple of these rods and they are exceptional.
Good suggestion! We have a couple budget friendly BFS rods showing up in the next couple of months. We might have to make a part 3!
These rods and reels have replaced all my ultra light spinning reels I use the jenko double down and soloking Acura bfs reel I can’t imagine using anything else for crappie and bass
I can't believe you left out the St Croix mojo bass trigon ml rod. It's labeled as a bfs light treble rod, but it's more than that. It actually has quite a bit of backbone. It's a very versatile rod and a easy transition rod into bfs. It must be popular you're always sold out of them.
had it. great rod. cashion icon bfs light is better though for trebles. most a guide thing
Hey Pete, can you bend the poison Ultimas?
I use a 7 ML spinning rod for BFS lol.
Cashion icon has a couple nice bfs rods.
Wilkinson Hill
Phenix CLASSICS Bfs rod is the best rod out there. Lifetime warranty on it too! You can’t be that.
You missed the phenix classic bfs
Megabass Triza aello. Best BFS rod in my opinion
Pete…… please consider getting more BFS hard/soft baits and terminal tackle 🙏🏻!!!
Why not just buy it from Japan, cost way less and shipping is crazy fast!
All Theses rods do are they solid tips or hollow tips
Farrell Ville
What was the weight on the dobyns?
THE STEEZ IS. $600
Phenix k2
I stick with aliexpress
BFS is like tenkara…having the industry trying to force a new style of fishing into an established market that already works is just counter productive. Very few people will buy all new equipment just to do what you are already doing. These techniques aren’t solving a problem. They are just selling you different equipment.
It's actually selling like hotcakes lol
@@tonyh.9957 when you say hotcakes, how many BFS rods have you sold this year?
if your saying that because "spinning rod does the same" kinda guy your missing the point. only thing that's a bit odd is in USA we call small lures BFS while in japan (who have been doing it for at least 10 years now) their heaviest BFS is still lighter than 99% of USA "BFS"
But, we had lighter bait casting rods for a while, back in the 1980’s and 1990’s. Then, when everybody went crazy watching the pro bass tournaments, manufacturers started pushing broomstick rods with no bend when you cast a lure or play a 12” bass. I have an All-Star light power medium action rated 6-12 lb. line that I can cast 1/8 oz lures. This BFS trend goes to show you, marketing something different is what makes money, even if the “different” is just a change in the label of a trend.
The backbone is too close to the tip no good