I think you guys should start placing affiliate links in the description to the items that you promote. That would make it a lot easier to revisit these videos and find the items that triggered an interest in us but maybe we weren’t able to write it down at the time.
If casting 1/8th like most cast well it's ( big freaking scam) like I've said before lol I've been casting 1/8th on 12lb line with a diawa cc80 reel on a 13 fishing medium fast rod 😂. I catch a lot of small bass and crappie throwing a 1/8th jig head paired with a small paddle tail 2.5" to 3"
@@aaanglers you mentioned how most would cast a 1/8th well but didn't handle 1/32 well lol. But you could get away with 1/16th on some. I listened close as possible bro lol.
Bait Finess System (or what ever its called these days) used to be called "Ultra-Light" fishing back in the early 80's where skilled and accomplished fishermen challenged themselves to catch the biggest fish on the lightest possible set up as the ultimate challenge. Ive been doing this sort a thing for decades since and some of my biggest fish have came on Ultra-Light gear! I have caught several bass over 10 lbs in a state where the record is 13 lbs and some change last time I checked the record book and got them off 4 lbs test mono. Talk about a blast!!! Glad to see this sorta fishing coming back into vogue again...
BFS is my jam, I'm all round reels. I have some vintage BFS tuned Ambassadeur 2500Cs, '17 and '23 Conquest BFS, Millionaire CT SV, and a BFS tuned Millionaire Ringa SSS. I mostly fish browns and steelhead in the Clinton River in Michigan, also smallies in the Huron River. I have a number of rods from Michigan made Graywolf progressive glass rods to higher end Japanese rods by Smith Ltd. Thankfully BFS is my only crutch lol
Just got the kastking on sale today on an early black friday deal. Just got into bfs for fishing for trout. Fishing is becoming an expensive hobby, daughter just got me the curado dc 200 for my birthday, love it
100% doesn’t have to be. I hunt for bargains for everything on feebay and Craigslist. I got a bad ass like new NorthFace 3 man tent for $75 shipped, $80 shipped for a $265 TOTL NorthFace 75 liter backpack in awesome used condition, sick deals on MegaBass lures, Pflueger Supreme XT amazing baitcasting reel new for $80’shipped(beats $300+ reels easily). TOTL Daiwa Frog rod for $150 used in perfect condition($300_+ new). Bargain hunt and don’t overpay for shit made in China.
I have an absolute blast on BFS. All of my biggest fish have come on BFS. One can get the Aldebaran from Japan. It’s a lot less than purchasing it here and shipping is really fast; like oh snap, it’s already here. I moved up from the Dark Wolf Ultra on the Kingdom KingPro . The kit was really good. I bumped up to the Megabass Cliffhanger Thrilling and Aldebaran XG. I could never go back. It’s so dope.
What site are you ordering from. I have been looking and some sights from Japan when you go to checking into it they are not even linked to a tackle store or rod builder and I’m trying to get 4 one for each of my kids an one for me so I don’t want to get ripped. An all them then rods also so I would appreciate if you could let me know thanks buddy 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great review! Appreciate your knowledge on the BFS setups! I went with the Dark Wolf Ultra and a Ace Hawk Venom rod. Wish I would have gone with a better rod. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video guys! Very informative and down to the point. Just bought the Doviello Brownie for my 1st BFS reel.. Super excited to test it out and go fish.
no mention of the Valiant Eagle II Baitcaster. I have been using one since the start of the season in 2023 and it is a great little reel. I can cast 3 gram lures very well using 6lb fluoro line. using with a Shimano majestic bfs rod its a great fun combo. I think it cost $65. it was a Christmas Gift so im not sure. I am looking forward to receiving my ARK Gravity BFS soon as well. good job as always guys. keep em coming
So I now own the Daiwa Crossfire/Tsurinoya Hurricane cheap first purchase bfs. I then bought the Tsurinoya Dragon 6'6" Light which I love and its paired with the Tsurinoya Genius. I've just purchased the 6'10" St.Croix Mojo Bass BFS and I'm prolly gonna pair it with Ark Gravity bfs or Flight Feather. Really like the learning curve of what reel and what rod pairs best for that specific technique. I may have never tried it, if it wasn't for you guys so thanks!
Thanks guys. It's hard to find info for throwing a Sierra slammer 1/32 and 1/16 and you are the first I've seen for this to break it down this good and not push junk! It seems to me Shimano is ocean and bike stuff while Diawa takes fresh water.
Agree that the Shimano Majestic XT rod is nice. I keep being amazed by the difference between the US and Europe regarding one-piece vs. two-/multipiece rods. Almost nobody have one-piece rods here in Denmark, suppose our cars are too small. 😅 I acknowledge that a one-piece rod in principle is better but I find it way too inconvenient with regards to transport and storage.
I’m loving the bfs fishing. I was kind of disappointed that you folks didn’t cover the Shimano Calcutta Conquest . Absolutely the best bfs reel I’ve ever used. My set up includes the Megabass P5 Destroyer F1-63X. Great content guys, keep it up.
I have to agree about the Zephyr. I do love it but it’s best at light stuff but not ultra-light. I throw light cranks, lipless, 2” jigs… works pretty dang good for that. I’m hoping to expand into another BFS reel. Edit: My current combo is the Zephyr & Sensilite. That Ark reel looks promising. You guys will have to see what the best rod pairing is with it. 👍
Cashion is my favorite and close second is Dobyns. I own 3 of each with Shimano Curado and SLX BFS, KastKing Magnesium and 2 KastKing Kistrel reels. Thanks for the content guys!
I've had dozens of rods and reels over the decades but I never fell in love with a combo until I tried the KastKing Kestrel reel with the Kestrel rod. It's pure magic! I recommend you try the proper rod with your Kestrel reel.
Great video. For a really budget rod that is good for creek or bank fishing. I use the Jawbone UL FEH01574 rod from Dick's Sporting Goods for $25. It's a 4' 6" rod, 2-6lb line, Lure WT:1/16-3/16oz. 😁
Would the G loomis NRX+ 6'6 med/light inshore rod be used as a heavier BFS set up throwing hard plastics like . Small poppers, small jerkbaits, small crankbaits. Throws 3/16oz on the lighter side and up to 1/2 oz. They aslo make a 7' with same specs. I do understand that this isn't a true BFS rod.
Ive got the zephyr and the curado bfs and i love both the zephyr definitely need bearings it was silky smooth and to me outperformed the curado on lighter lures but soon started making noise the curado is still as good as it was day 1 but it never did great on super light lures but its my favorite ned rig reel
I love my BFS gear! I have a Alderbaran and a BFS Edge rod. I absolutely catch tanks on that set up. Biggest so far is a 4# bass but multiple 3's as well and a crap ton of 2's and smaller. Just a great way to catch fish in pressure lakes and ponds.
I tried the KK Zephyr/Sensilite Combo at the start of this season. Just never really liked how that reel performed. It would backlash and the line would tangle up inside the spool :( would have to remove the side plate every time it backlashed. I recently bought a Genius (upgraded Dark Wolf; same co., higher gear ratio). The rod I'm using this time is the Cashion Icon BFS Rod. Absolutely love this rod/reel combo. Can throw pretty much anything, including those tiny trout magnet jigs. PS... love your guys videos, they help keep me motivated to fish and try new things! Would love to fish with you guys 🎣
@@paulglass7268 i can’t comment too much on its performance since I haven’t had much time to try it out, but the build quality, price and shipping time from Oklahoma definitely makes it seem pretty attractive. It doesn’t seem like they’re doing much marketing for this rod, from what I can tell it is the same blank as their ultralight spinning rod in the BuCoo line
That is totally up to you! We think BFS is a lot of fun. Not 100% necessary, but 110% fun. We love both BFS and ultralight spinning. So it's all preference.
Would you recommend the Dobyns or the Majestic XT to pair with a SLX BFS? Looking for a 1st time, versatile combo to fish mostly single hooks and some small moving baits.
My son has a stock standard Kastking Zephyr on a 5ft6 Pioneer Evo 2 rod. He regularly uses 1/32 once Eagle Claw jig heads with tiny zoom Minnow plastics or Keitech paddle tails and casts just fine...
I agree with your feedback on the Shimano BFS reel. For a similar price, the Shimano Scorpion BFS is way better. The Japan version of any US Shimano model is better.
i personally feel the best value rod is the chi xi wood split grip for bass its $50-$60 and for trout I really like the jkkood short cork grip 5'6 ultralite rod which is $40
@paulglass7268 already got the preoder on that lol but im thinking of taking the bfs jump but also in the group of people that "cry once buy once" crowd and save up for thr thing that i would mostly move up into. So with the faster mojo would i still be able to throw the 1/32 stuff you think?
@@noahbeu1515 yup should be able to. The Majestic XT is a fun rod too and handles light weight. Tsurinoya rods are a better budget option I’ve heard a lot of folks recommend too
You can get the KING of BFS the Shimano Aldebaran BFS XG from Asian Portal for $262 right now plus about $10 for shipping!!! Absolutely a steal! I’ve ordered rods and reels from them and there absolutely Legit!!
I'm getting tired of black and silver. Need some color for my reel's just nice to look and see the one you need right away. Look and grab just faster. Bright colors 🎣
Well, I have had my Team Lew's hyper mag speed spool since it first came out and have had it on a 6' UL and a 7'6" heavey. 1/32 oz. Is no problem casting 30- 35 yds easily.
I just got back from Montana fishing small rivers with low flows,i will use this rod and reel once a year could you recommed a rod and reel for small trout,thx
I won a “Kastking Kestrel Elite” yesterday 8.4 get ratio. Looks legit . Need to find a good rod combo for it . Was thinking top water/light flipping cover with it mainly..any suggestions?
bump'n an older vid, what is ur current feel for a middle of the road set-up for my son who is rough with equipment... primarily throwing 1/6 1/8oz crank paits poppers. thanks.
@@aaanglers awesome, thank you so much for the quick reply. would u upgrade the bearings straight away & what length/action model is the 1 piece kestrel your refering to?
Man I went all out and got the Daiwa Steez Air paired with my Megabass P5 Kasumi Six Eleven. It’s a dream set up since I mainly just toss hard baits on light braid (10#) Suffix 831
Disliked the same thing about the trigon casting rod. Love the spinning rod though. Will certainly check out that dark Wolfe. I currently use an SLX Bfs and it just doesn’t do BFS like I want. Doesn’t do lower weights well at all.
I think the DWU is a GREAT value, I love the FF01 for sub 1gr, and the Aldebaran22 bfs for 1/32-1/20 neds! The Curado bfs is for my wacky rigs, even though it's a bfs reel, it works perfectly for senkos! Now that I think about it, the Curado BFS was perfect for what bfs lures were at the time it came out. Now BFS lures being lighter than ever, i can see how the curado performs on the power bfs range. Love the BFS game!
BFS has always been about super light stuff. The US market just has a distorted idea of what "finesse" is, thinking that it's anything you use a spinning rod for. Senkos are the perfect example. Just the 5" Senko weighs almost 3/8 oz. I throw weightless Senkos as far as you would ever need to on a MH casting rod with a normal casting reel. There's nothing "BFS" about it. Shimano gets it, too. They label their ML power rods as "BFS-A" for "BFS American". They're meant to replace a spinning rod for what most US bass anglers use a spinning rod for. Let's face it, most US bass anglers use a spinning rod for drop shots and shaky heads. The Shimano BFS-A rods are perfect for that. For real BFS as it's understood in Japan, they're not even in the conversation. For what most US anglers would need, the SLX MGL 70 is a WAY better option for way less money than the Curado BFS.
@helotaxi -great explanation! I'm afraid the US manufacturing may not catch onto 1/32 range BFS in time. My buddy keeps telling me finesse is the same, bit I have to tell him it's not. What I was getting at earlier is that even though senkos are about 3/8oz and definitely not bfs, the curado bfs handles that weight range for me, and I use the aldebaran 22s for the bfs. I always did find the Shimano expride bfs too stiff, so what you said makes total sense
Well I just bought the kastking kestrel elite hoping to be able to cast 1/32 lures 😑 in your opinion would it be better to return it and buy the Daiwa or upgrade the kestrel in some way?
Unfortunately casting a 1/32 on that reel just isn't going to happen. I'd consider returning and trying the new Daiwa BFS or Salamandura. The Ark Gravity BFS is another good option.
I have tried several BFS rods from the cheap $50 range up to Megabass's high end rods and so far two stand out. One already mentioned in the video, Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse and my favorite, the Kistler Hunt BFS. This rod checks all the boxes.... Bridges the gap between a trout rod and a bass rod, sensitive, short handle, balances well, casts a wide range of baits and has a great taper. For reels, I have tried a couple from both Daiwa and Shimano. So far the Aldebaran BFS and Calcutta BFS have no equal. If you can overcome the cost, they're worth it.
Asian Portal has the Shimano Aldebaran BFS XG right now for $262 plus $10 shipping an incredible steal! I know you don’t get warranty but you don’t need it on this reel.
Kistler is based out of Houston Tx he's the only one I know that has a 3 power rod light medium heavy all in 1 I have one and liked it they also have bfs spools for their baitcasters
Man, I watched this entire vid and i don't even know how to fish a bait caster😮. What is wrong with me! Don't answer if this is a stupid question, but do you like a certain spinning reel for your new MB stick? I was going to pick one up for crappie fishing in the spring.
When it comes to the reel I agree with the Dark Wolf for an amazing entry level reel. However I have had trouble finding them. The Zephyr is great with tossing 1/8oz but I wouldn’t go lower than that. The best reel that I have and would recommend to anyone that wants to spend more than the Dark Wolf or Zephyr, this reel is the Diawa Gekkibijin which is close to being like the Diawa shown in this video. I also have a Shimano Sensilite 7ft light. It will handle 1/16oz very nice. I have not thrown a 1/32oz with it yet. And I am also now looking for a new BFS rod that can handle the 1/32oz jigs.
Until this week, I haven’t spooled anything less than 16 lb fluoro in years. Taking the “leap of faith” and spooling a 10 lb spool. 😬 But if I ever make the bfs leap, this video will be a major resource
The Dark wolf is what everyone is copying? the DWU is a copy itself of Shimano and Daiwa. Also there is a 119g reel available now, lighter than the flightfeather (125)
Yeah, was a nice little rod but the tip on mine just splintered. Not surprised as I've caught hundreds of bass on it this year. Check out Old18 BFS rods! Made in the USA. Lots of models at different price points.
The soloking Acura hicc 50 pro (short spool shaft) is a stunner at under $40 with 2 spools (bfs and deep bfs). Haibo has 2 metal frame (aluminum arise elite and magnesium air ultra). They both rival the 22 Alde BFS. But this is a great bfs video, well done!
I am not 100% sure on the BFS to be honest. I still like using the spinning combo for Light and Ultra Light fishing its what I started off with and a 5'4" rod and 4# mono. I would like to get into BFS but cant find a setup I like yet. I prefer 2 piece rods just for portability I dont have a truck and its easier to brake it down and put it in the trunk.
Update.. Thank Gents for the recommendations. I bought the Zephr just to dabble in the BFS. I am 'hooked' Darn you guys lol 9 months after buying it I am going to upgrade the bearings to the Roro bearings. I am also using a ML KastKing 7' Paragee II and works well for 1/10 oz to 1/14 oz I would like to get a light or a ultra light rod for this, but for now I am really happy with it.
I have a love/hate relationship with that reel, as I can get it to cast super light lures, but I have to use 2lb line and the right rod, but it only casts 15ft. The part I hate is the line gets caught between the spool and frame!
doubt that would happen with 2-10lb line. i mean if you were fishing 65lb braid, 20lbs locked down drag and pulling peacock bass out of submerged trees. possibly.
Just found a jawbone BFS REEL on a bank while on a kayak adventure in NorCal, never used one but noticed that it’s missing the “tension” brake knob” anyone know where I can find a replacement ?? It feels fine and looks operational otherwise. Looking for assistance.
@@brianpierson7708 have a trio of the Aldebarans and a Steez Air. The only reason that I don't have it the other way around is that the Aldebaran is so dang affordable right now from Japan. The Steez is a better reel but even with the current exchange rate it's almost 2x the price. It's better, but it isn't so much better that I would spend 2x as much. At US price for the Aldebaran, I'd buy the Steez every time.
From someone who fishes a lot Just spend the extra couple hundred for the Shimano Aldebaran for a reel. Makes life easy so you don't have any backlash issues and cast super far.
@timtweet8149 fyi BFS wasn’t even designed to replace ultralight setups, all these UA-camrs are misinformed about BFS. It was designed to fish for large fish with smaller baits, not trout and panfish. Of course anyone can fish it however they choose but BFS and Ultralight Baitcaster fishing is 2 different things.
Similarly, DON'T Buy A BFS Rod Or Reel Until You ... experience a spinning reel with mainline braid to a fluoro leader, on a rod of equal length, power and action.
I fish UL spinning all year round, I love it. I was gifted a BFS, and honestly I love using the casting gear. It's been years since I've used baitcasters because I got bored with them, I mean on a MH you can just drag a 2 lb bass in with ease really. To any UL angler I'd encourage trying BFS, it's a blast.
Available on Amazon, the Kingdom Micro Monster is a definite step up from the Zephyr, and the Bearking Zuescaster looks to be a clone of the Dark Wolf for $65 and a massive improvement from the Zephyr. The Zephyr is OK but the biggest issue that I have with it is the drag. The two I have came with the Bellville washers nested rather than face to face which meant that the drag was either on or off, nothing in between. Even once that was fixed, the Bellville washers are way too thick for where the drag range on a BFS reel should be, which combined with having a double stack drag means that the drag is way too much and ramps up way too quickly for light line. I'll stick with the Bearking in the affordable range going forward.
I dunno why are you saying that the dark wolf ultra has the original FTB brake system against the Curado BFS, that is blasphemy! tsurinoya isn't even the first to copy it, fishband GH100 first copied from the aldebaran BFS way back.. the dark wolf ultra are basically copies of the copy with a lighter and smaller spool.. 😂
Love my curado bfs on a 6'9" med light for jerk baits, hair jigs and its my salt and fresh setup for sure but theres definitely a large great selection for diffrent applications.. The kastking zephyr with new bearings is amazing for the price 😊😊
I got a Zephyr and it’s an okay reel. I did get another budget the Elf/Genius which is the upgrade of the Dark Wolf as many know, and it can totally go UL to up 1/8 no problem. I got my budget reels now. I want either an Ark or flight feather as my mid tier and want a Gekkabijn as my top tier.
I have a kastking sharky baitfeeder 3 I used it for snapper and whiting. for $60aud its gotta be best value for dollar. My other reels are okuma dynadrag 1000,okuma ceymar 8 and okums surf 8k and I always find myself using the dynadrag or sharky. I love the baitfeed latch
Never heard of Akit and can’t seem to find them on the old interwebs… No need for the jab about BFE. You know we are down to try everything, always have been.
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What do you think about BFS???
I think you guys should start placing affiliate links in the description to the items that you promote. That would make it a lot easier to revisit these videos and find the items that triggered an interest in us but maybe we weren’t able to write it down at the time.
If casting 1/8th like most cast well it's ( big freaking scam) like I've said before lol I've been casting 1/8th on 12lb line with a diawa cc80 reel on a 13 fishing medium fast rod 😂. I catch a lot of small bass and crappie throwing a 1/8th jig head paired with a small paddle tail 2.5" to 3"
@@blind_eye_fishing we’re talking about 1/32… not 1/8
@@aaanglers you mentioned how most would cast a 1/8th well but didn't handle 1/32 well lol. But you could get away with 1/16th on some. I listened close as possible bro lol.
@@blind_eye_fishingall about making money
I went for the SLX BFS $140, Dobyns 6'9" fast, fishing 1/8 an up jigs an T rigs love it
Bait Finess System (or what ever its called these days) used to be called "Ultra-Light" fishing back in the early 80's where skilled and accomplished fishermen challenged themselves to catch the biggest fish on the lightest possible set up as the ultimate challenge. Ive been doing this sort a thing for decades since and some of my biggest fish have came on Ultra-Light gear! I have caught several bass over 10 lbs in a state where the record is 13 lbs and some change last time I checked the record book and got them off 4 lbs test mono. Talk about a blast!!! Glad to see this sorta fishing coming back into vogue again...
BFS is my jam, I'm all round reels. I have some vintage BFS tuned Ambassadeur 2500Cs, '17 and '23 Conquest BFS, Millionaire CT SV, and a BFS tuned Millionaire Ringa SSS. I mostly fish browns and steelhead in the Clinton River in Michigan, also smallies in the Huron River. I have a number of rods from Michigan made Graywolf progressive glass rods to higher end Japanese rods by Smith Ltd. Thankfully BFS is my only crutch lol
Just got the kastking on sale today on an early black friday deal. Just got into bfs for fishing for trout. Fishing is becoming an expensive hobby, daughter just got me the curado dc 200 for my birthday, love it
100% doesn’t have to be. I hunt for bargains for everything on feebay and Craigslist.
I got a bad ass like new NorthFace 3 man tent for $75 shipped, $80 shipped for a $265 TOTL NorthFace 75 liter backpack in awesome used condition, sick deals on MegaBass lures, Pflueger Supreme XT amazing baitcasting reel new for $80’shipped(beats $300+ reels easily). TOTL Daiwa Frog rod for $150 used in perfect condition($300_+ new).
Bargain hunt and don’t overpay for shit made in China.
I have an absolute blast on BFS. All of my biggest fish have come on BFS.
One can get the Aldebaran from Japan. It’s a lot less than purchasing it here and shipping is really fast; like oh snap, it’s already here. I moved up from the Dark Wolf Ultra on the Kingdom KingPro . The kit was really good.
I bumped up to the Megabass Cliffhanger Thrilling and Aldebaran XG. I could never go back. It’s so dope.
What site are you ordering from. I have been looking and some sights from Japan when you go to checking into it they are not even linked to a tackle store or rod builder and I’m trying to get 4 one for each of my kids an one for me so I don’t want to get ripped. An all them then rods also so I would appreciate if you could let me know thanks buddy 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great review! Appreciate your knowledge on the BFS setups! I went with the Dark Wolf Ultra and a Ace Hawk Venom rod. Wish I would have gone with a better rod. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video guys! Very informative and down to the point. Just bought the Doviello Brownie for my 1st BFS reel.. Super excited to test it out and go fish.
no mention of the Valiant Eagle II Baitcaster. I have been using one since the start of the season in 2023 and it is a great little reel. I can cast 3 gram lures very well using 6lb fluoro line. using with a Shimano majestic bfs rod its a great fun combo. I think it cost $65. it was a Christmas Gift so im not sure. I am looking forward to receiving my ARK Gravity BFS soon as well.
good job as always guys. keep em coming
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So I now own the Daiwa Crossfire/Tsurinoya Hurricane cheap first purchase bfs. I then bought the Tsurinoya Dragon 6'6" Light which I love and its paired with the Tsurinoya Genius. I've just purchased the 6'10" St.Croix Mojo Bass BFS and I'm prolly gonna pair it with Ark Gravity bfs or Flight Feather. Really like the learning curve of what reel and what rod pairs best for that specific technique. I may have never tried it, if it wasn't for you guys so thanks!
That’s fantastic!!!
🙌Awesome!
I like the BFS! I appreciate you guys always sharing some good information. Keep up the good work!
I got the zephyr and loved it so i decided to go ahead and do the bearing upgrade, cant wait.
That was a very helpful video. Something I want to try but don't know too much about.
Thanks guys. It's hard to find info for throwing a Sierra slammer 1/32 and 1/16 and you are the first I've seen for this to break it down this good and not push junk!
It seems to me Shimano is ocean and bike stuff while Diawa takes fresh water.
Thanks!
You guys have to try the Phenix Classic BFS casting rod. I have the 6'8" and 7'1" casting lengths. 6'8" length is my favorite.
We will!
Agree that the Shimano Majestic XT rod is nice. I keep being amazed by the difference between the US and Europe regarding one-piece vs. two-/multipiece rods. Almost nobody have one-piece rods here in Denmark, suppose our cars are too small. 😅 I acknowledge that a one-piece rod in principle is better but I find it way too inconvenient with regards to transport and storage.
I’m loving the bfs fishing. I was kind of disappointed that you folks didn’t cover the Shimano Calcutta Conquest . Absolutely the best bfs reel I’ve ever used. My set up includes the Megabass P5 Destroyer F1-63X. Great content guys, keep it up.
That’s because we are poor 😂
I have to agree about the Zephyr. I do love it but it’s best at light stuff but not ultra-light. I throw light cranks, lipless, 2” jigs… works pretty dang good for that. I’m hoping to expand into another BFS reel.
Edit: My current combo is the Zephyr & Sensilite. That Ark reel looks promising. You guys will have to see what the best rod pairing is with it. 👍
Cashion is my favorite and close second is Dobyns. I own 3 of each with Shimano Curado and SLX BFS, KastKing Magnesium and 2 KastKing Kistrel reels. Thanks for the content guys!
I personally love the ARK Gravity BFS reel. With the Phenix classic bfs.
I've had dozens of rods and reels over the decades but I never fell in love with a combo until I tried the KastKing Kestrel reel with the Kestrel rod. It's pure magic! I recommend you try the proper rod with your Kestrel reel.
Great video.
For a really budget rod that is good for creek or bank fishing. I use the Jawbone UL FEH01574 rod from Dick's Sporting Goods for $25.
It's a 4' 6" rod, 2-6lb line, Lure WT:1/16-3/16oz. 😁
Shorty, nice!
Would the G loomis NRX+ 6'6 med/light inshore rod be used as a heavier BFS set up throwing hard plastics like . Small poppers, small jerkbaits, small crankbaits. Throws 3/16oz on the lighter side and up to 1/2 oz. They aslo make a 7' with same specs. I do understand that this isn't a true BFS rod.
No idea, as I haven't even considered that rod... I'm sure it would work really well for the upper end of BFS baits
Thanks for this brides guys. Just purchased the Shimano bfs. I’m fine with throwing the 1/8 jigs. But will definitely lean into looking at the others.
Ive got the zephyr and the curado bfs and i love both the zephyr definitely need bearings it was silky smooth and to me outperformed the curado on lighter lures but soon started making noise the curado is still as good as it was day 1 but it never did great on super light lures but its my favorite ned rig reel
I love my BFS gear! I have a Alderbaran and a BFS Edge rod. I absolutely catch tanks on that set up. Biggest so far is a 4# bass but multiple 3's as well and a crap ton of 2's and smaller. Just a great way to catch fish in pressure lakes and ponds.
I tried the KK Zephyr/Sensilite Combo at the start of this season. Just never really liked how that reel performed. It would backlash and the line would tangle up inside the spool :( would have to remove the side plate every time it backlashed. I recently bought a Genius (upgraded Dark Wolf; same co., higher gear ratio). The rod I'm using this time is the Cashion Icon BFS Rod. Absolutely love this rod/reel combo. Can throw pretty much anything, including those tiny trout magnet jigs.
PS... love your guys videos, they help keep me motivated to fish and try new things! Would love to fish with you guys 🎣
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Has anyone else tried the Falcon BuCoo SR ultralight casting rod? I just paired one up with a flight feather for my first BFS combo
How did you like it?
@@paulglass7268 i can’t comment too much on its performance since I haven’t had much time to try it out, but the build quality, price and shipping time from Oklahoma definitely makes it seem pretty attractive. It doesn’t seem like they’re doing much marketing for this rod, from what I can tell it is the same blank as their ultralight spinning rod in the BuCoo line
Did you do the upgrades on your reels or send them to a shop.Thanks.im lookinf at bearings for my curado
We did them ourselves
Is it worth getting a bfs baitcasting setup if you already have several higher end ultralight spinning setups?
That is totally up to you! We think BFS is a lot of fun. Not 100% necessary, but 110% fun. We love both BFS and ultralight spinning. So it's all preference.
Would you recommend the Dobyns or the Majestic XT to pair with a SLX BFS? Looking for a 1st time, versatile combo to fish mostly single hooks and some small moving baits.
Majestic all day
Thanks.......just ordered from BFE
@@rickjames8027raaaad!
My son has a stock standard Kastking Zephyr on a 5ft6 Pioneer Evo 2 rod. He regularly uses 1/32 once Eagle Claw jig heads with tiny zoom Minnow plastics or Keitech paddle tails and casts just fine...
Well, I just learned a heck of a lot watching this video. Thanks guys!👊🏻
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I agree with your feedback on the Shimano BFS reel. For a similar price, the Shimano Scorpion BFS is way better. The Japan version of any US Shimano model is better.
i personally feel the best value rod is the chi xi wood split grip for bass its $50-$60 and for trout I really like the jkkood short cork grip 5'6 ultralite rod which is $40
Whats rod would you pick for just throwing mule stuff?
Bfs: go with the Majestic or the faster mojo. If spinning grab our ultralight from Monsterbass!
@paulglass7268 already got the preoder on that lol but im thinking of taking the bfs jump but also in the group of people that "cry once buy once" crowd and save up for thr thing that i would mostly move up into. So with the faster mojo would i still be able to throw the 1/32 stuff you think?
@@noahbeu1515 yup should be able to. The Majestic XT is a fun rod too and handles light weight. Tsurinoya rods are a better budget option I’ve heard a lot of folks recommend too
I have one Sensilite rod but I cant find another! Seems to be discontinued.
Yeah, we found that out well after filming. It’s a shame
You can get the KING of BFS the Shimano Aldebaran BFS XG from Asian Portal for $262 right now plus about $10 for shipping!!! Absolutely a steal! I’ve ordered rods and reels from them and there absolutely Legit!!
Nice!
Look at Paul and keeping it reel! 😂 I have been waiting for this video to drop! Thank you for the break down and thoughts!
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I'm getting tired of black and silver. Need some color for my reel's just nice to look and see the one you need right away. Look and grab just faster. Bright colors 🎣
Awesome!! congratulations and thank you! it really open my eyes. Keep on your great advice!!!
Didnt think I needed a BFS setup but that Diawa St Croix combo look sweet
It’s gorgeous
That value combo might be what I’m going to get this summer.
Rad!
Awesome!
Well, I have had my Team Lew's hyper mag speed spool since it first came out and have had it on a 6' UL and a 7'6" heavey. 1/32 oz. Is no problem casting 30- 35 yds easily.
I just got back from Montana fishing small rivers with low flows,i will use this rod and reel once a year could you recommed a rod and reel for small trout,thx
TFO Trout Panfish Rod for Spinning. Check out these rods from Bait Finesse Empire for BFS: baitfinesseempire.com/product-category/rods/trout-rods/
Have you ever removed the magnet from the curado bfs?
Not yet
@@paulglass7268 I'm going to get a trout rod for my curado and remove the magnet see if I can sling a mepps. I will let ya know how it goes.
I won a “Kastking Kestrel Elite” yesterday 8.4 get ratio. Looks legit . Need to find a good rod combo for it . Was thinking top water/light flipping cover with it mainly..any suggestions?
yeah, flipping and top water is a good way to go. Stick to 1/16 to 1/4 oz lures and you will be happy with it!
bump'n an older vid, what is ur current feel for a middle of the road set-up for my son who is rough with equipment... primarily throwing 1/6 1/8oz crank paits poppers. thanks.
Kastking Kestrel combo all day. $120 reel, $90 Rod.
@@aaanglers awesome, thank you so much for the quick reply. would u upgrade the bearings straight away & what length/action model is the 1 piece kestrel your refering to?
It’s not one piece, it’s 2 or 3. Id go light action
Man I went all out and got the Daiwa Steez Air paired with my Megabass P5 Kasumi Six Eleven. It’s a dream set up since I mainly just toss hard baits on light braid (10#) Suffix 831
Disliked the same thing about the trigon casting rod. Love the spinning rod though.
Will certainly check out that dark Wolfe. I currently use an SLX Bfs and it just doesn’t do BFS like I want. Doesn’t do lower weights well at all.
But at least the SLX BFS is priced appropriately, unlike the Curado.
What reel should I pick Dark wolf or Fishband GH100 for ultralight fishing
we only have experience with the dark wolf, and it has been a great reel.
@@aaanglers ok thank you!
I think the DWU is a GREAT value, I love the FF01 for sub 1gr, and the Aldebaran22 bfs for 1/32-1/20 neds! The Curado bfs is for my wacky rigs, even though it's a bfs reel, it works perfectly for senkos! Now that I think about it, the Curado BFS was perfect for what bfs lures were at the time it came out. Now BFS lures being lighter than ever, i can see how the curado performs on the power bfs range. Love the BFS game!
BFS has always been about super light stuff. The US market just has a distorted idea of what "finesse" is, thinking that it's anything you use a spinning rod for. Senkos are the perfect example. Just the 5" Senko weighs almost 3/8 oz. I throw weightless Senkos as far as you would ever need to on a MH casting rod with a normal casting reel. There's nothing "BFS" about it. Shimano gets it, too. They label their ML power rods as "BFS-A" for "BFS American". They're meant to replace a spinning rod for what most US bass anglers use a spinning rod for. Let's face it, most US bass anglers use a spinning rod for drop shots and shaky heads. The Shimano BFS-A rods are perfect for that. For real BFS as it's understood in Japan, they're not even in the conversation. For what most US anglers would need, the SLX MGL 70 is a WAY better option for way less money than the Curado BFS.
@helotaxi -great explanation! I'm afraid the US manufacturing may not catch onto 1/32 range BFS in time. My buddy keeps telling me finesse is the same, bit I have to tell him it's not. What I was getting at earlier is that even though senkos are about 3/8oz and definitely not bfs, the curado bfs handles that weight range for me, and I use the aldebaran 22s for the bfs. I always did find the Shimano expride bfs too stiff, so what you said makes total sense
What are both your thoughts on the Old 18 buoyancy rod, the 7' ultra light mod fast action rod?
Looks neat! We haven't used them. I tried to reach out, but we never got connected.
Well I just bought the kastking kestrel elite hoping to be able to cast 1/32 lures 😑 in your opinion would it be better to return it and buy the Daiwa or upgrade the kestrel in some way?
Unfortunately casting a 1/32 on that reel just isn't going to happen. I'd consider returning and trying the new Daiwa BFS or Salamandura. The Ark Gravity BFS is another good option.
@@aaanglers so is it just called Daiwa BFS?
Yes
I have tried several BFS rods from the cheap $50 range up to Megabass's high end rods and so far two stand out. One already mentioned in the video, Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse and my favorite, the Kistler Hunt BFS. This rod checks all the boxes.... Bridges the gap between a trout rod and a bass rod, sensitive, short handle, balances well, casts a wide range of baits and has a great taper. For reels, I have tried a couple from both Daiwa and Shimano. So far the Aldebaran BFS and Calcutta BFS have no equal. If you can overcome the cost, they're worth it.
We will look into kistler!
I second the Kistler Hunt Series as a very solid choice, especially when it comes to American made rods.
Asian Portal has the Shimano Aldebaran BFS XG right now for $262 plus $10 shipping an incredible steal! I know you don’t get warranty but you don’t need it on this reel.
Kistler is based out of Houston Tx he's the only one I know that has a 3 power rod light medium heavy all in 1 I have one and liked it they also have bfs spools for their baitcasters
Thank you
Is BFS reel about the size and weight or build vs a normal bait caster?
Man, I watched this entire vid and i don't even know how to fish a bait caster😮. What is wrong with me! Don't answer if this is a stupid question, but do you like a certain spinning reel for your new MB stick? I was going to pick one up for crappie fishing in the spring.
The Daiwa Fuego in a 500 or 1000 size would be awesome. I have an Okuma ITX on mine right now. The Daiwa should be on sale for black friday tho
@@aaanglers Grazie, it's time to shop!
As far as rods old 18 bfs rods are my favorite I've used 4 different price ranges and all made in America in texas
I own both an Aldebaran and a Curado. Honestly, if I had to cast them both blindfolded, I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference.
When it comes to the reel I agree with the Dark Wolf for an amazing entry level reel. However I have had trouble finding them. The Zephyr is great with tossing 1/8oz but I wouldn’t go lower than that. The best reel that I have and would recommend to anyone that wants to spend more than the Dark Wolf or Zephyr, this reel is the Diawa Gekkibijin which is close to being like the Diawa shown in this video. I also have a Shimano Sensilite 7ft light. It will handle 1/16oz very nice. I have not thrown a 1/32oz with it yet. And I am also now looking for a new BFS rod that can handle the 1/32oz jigs.
The roro bfs spool on the slx and the curado make a ton of difference for light lures. Half the weight of the stock spool.
Have you guys tried Calcutta conquest bfs? How does it compare to salamandura? Is it worth 2-3x the price ?
Nope, cuz it’s too fancy for our taste 😂
Until this week, I haven’t spooled anything less than 16 lb fluoro in years. Taking the “leap of faith” and spooling a 10 lb spool. 😬 But if I ever make the bfs leap, this video will be a major resource
Just currently getting into BFS but have an older model Calcutta 50, would this be a decent starter reel?
For sure!
Crazy.. I use my ZYPHER specifically for “heavier” or light lures .. specially mini cranks
The Dark wolf is what everyone is copying? the DWU is a copy itself of Shimano and Daiwa. Also there is a 119g reel available now, lighter than the flightfeather (125)
Good to know!
I have the kastking zephyr bfs baitcaster reel if I changed the bearings would that make it better thank you for reel information
It is a major improvement
The Shimano Sensilite casting rod has been discontinued for months. Good luck finding one.
Didn't know that
Yeah, was a nice little rod but the tip on mine just splintered. Not surprised as I've caught hundreds of bass on it this year. Check out Old18 BFS rods! Made in the USA. Lots of models at different price points.
Never heard of them before, but I will look into them!
Man I’ve been so close to buy the zillion platform Salamandura so many times such a sick looking reel.
I love st croix mojo bass rods i have 2 mh spinning rods in that lineup and love them
Really good value
I find the limit for my sensilite/ curado combo is 1/10th
The soloking Acura hicc 50 pro (short spool shaft) is a stunner at under $40 with 2 spools (bfs and deep bfs). Haibo has 2 metal frame (aluminum arise elite and magnesium air ultra). They both rival the 22 Alde BFS.
But this is a great bfs video, well done!
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I am not 100% sure on the BFS to be honest. I still like using the spinning combo for Light and Ultra Light fishing its what I started off with and a 5'4" rod and 4# mono. I would like to get into BFS but cant find a setup I like yet. I prefer 2 piece rods just for portability I dont have a truck and its easier to brake it down and put it in the trunk.
Update.. Thank Gents for the recommendations. I bought the Zephr just to dabble in the BFS. I am 'hooked' Darn you guys lol 9 months after buying it I am going to upgrade the bearings to the Roro bearings. I am also using a ML KastKing 7' Paragee II and works well for 1/10 oz to 1/14 oz I would like to get a light or a ultra light rod for this, but for now I am really happy with it.
Zypher is not that bad and i cast 1/32 easy on it. Just need the right rod. Tons of rods out there that r cheap that make the zypher a beast
Not sure how you set it up, but would love to see how you made that work. I’ve tried everything and it was not possible.
I have a love/hate relationship with that reel, as I can get it to cast super light lures, but I have to use 2lb line and the right rod, but it only casts 15ft. The part I hate is the line gets caught between the spool and frame!
Anyone know where I can buy the sensalite online?
Got mine on fish usa
Casting version is discontinued. Can still get spinning rods.
Love the videos keep up the work
If the DW offered Atleast an aluminum frame. And cheaper out other places I’m 100% down. Just a lil worried about frame twist to breaking
doubt that would happen with 2-10lb line. i mean if you were fishing 65lb braid, 20lbs locked down drag and pulling peacock bass out of submerged trees. possibly.
Just found a jawbone BFS REEL on a bank while on a kayak adventure in NorCal, never used one but noticed that it’s missing the “tension” brake knob” anyone know where I can find a replacement ?? It feels fine and looks operational otherwise. Looking for assistance.
you would have to look up if they have any manufacturer replacements. Nice find though!
@@aaanglers appreciate the information! I’ll take a look and see what I can find
In my humble opinion the Daiwa Steez Air and Daiwa Gekkabijin are the best BFS reels on the market.
Super nice options
I have heard good things about the Gekkabijin.
Have you tried the ss air
Aldbaren BFS
@@brianpierson7708 have a trio of the Aldebarans and a Steez Air. The only reason that I don't have it the other way around is that the Aldebaran is so dang affordable right now from Japan. The Steez is a better reel but even with the current exchange rate it's almost 2x the price. It's better, but it isn't so much better that I would spend 2x as much. At US price for the Aldebaran, I'd buy the Steez every time.
From someone who fishes a lot Just spend the extra couple hundred for the Shimano Aldebaran for a reel. Makes life easy so you don't have any backlash issues and cast super far.
Good stuff! I'll stick with my ultralight spinning combos.
@timtweet8149 fyi BFS wasn’t even designed to replace ultralight setups, all these UA-camrs are misinformed about BFS. It was designed to fish for large fish with smaller baits, not trout and panfish. Of course anyone can fish it however they choose but BFS and Ultralight Baitcaster fishing is 2 different things.
@@EddieLindsay681 Already knew that. To each his own.
Try Lama glass X 11 trout rod .4 to 8 lb…excellent
I really like my Alphas Air too!
Kistler has a great BFS rod
The lfx BFS is around 170$
aldebaran from digitaka is 250
no need to upgrade
Interesting
Silver creek air with a p5 destroyer pop x stick and you in like flynn
Similarly, DON'T Buy A BFS Rod Or Reel Until You ... experience a spinning reel with mainline braid to a fluoro leader, on a rod of equal length, power and action.
I fish UL spinning all year round, I love it. I was gifted a BFS, and honestly I love using the casting gear. It's been years since I've used baitcasters because I got bored with them, I mean on a MH you can just drag a 2 lb bass in with ease really. To any UL angler I'd encourage trying BFS, it's a blast.
Available on Amazon, the Kingdom Micro Monster is a definite step up from the Zephyr, and the Bearking Zuescaster looks to be a clone of the Dark Wolf for $65 and a massive improvement from the Zephyr.
The Zephyr is OK but the biggest issue that I have with it is the drag. The two I have came with the Bellville washers nested rather than face to face which meant that the drag was either on or off, nothing in between. Even once that was fixed, the Bellville washers are way too thick for where the drag range on a BFS reel should be, which combined with having a double stack drag means that the drag is way too much and ramps up way too quickly for light line. I'll stick with the Bearking in the affordable range going forward.
Zeus blows away the Zephyr from the box .
I cast from micro crankbaits to 1/2oz floppers on 10lb braid on a Magic L light casting rod .
I dunno why are you saying that the dark wolf ultra has the original FTB brake system against the Curado BFS, that is blasphemy! tsurinoya isn't even the first to copy it, fishband GH100 first copied from the aldebaran BFS way back.. the dark wolf ultra are basically copies of the copy with a lighter and smaller spool.. 😂
It wasn’t what was meant to be said. It was just said. Happens sometimes
Shimano Sensalight!!!! Do the reviews trust me you will be surprised 😊
I am considering giving bfs a try.
It’s a ton of fun
Love my curado bfs on a 6'9" med light for jerk baits, hair jigs and its my salt and fresh setup for sure but theres definitely a large great selection for diffrent applications.. The kastking zephyr with new bearings is amazing for the price 😊😊
I never realized 1/32 was a thing. 1/8 seems super light to me!
Try a 1/80 oz lure, they get crazy light
I got a Zephyr and it’s an okay reel. I did get another budget the Elf/Genius which is the upgrade of the Dark Wolf as many know, and it can totally go UL to up 1/8 no problem. I got my budget reels now. I want either an Ark or flight feather as my mid tier and want a Gekkabijn as my top tier.
Solid list
@@paulglass7268Thanks just need to get my rods squared away next. Got an Kastking Kestrel Feather for my budget set up with the elf.
I have a kastking sharky baitfeeder 3 I used it for snapper and whiting. for $60aud its gotta be best value for dollar. My other reels are okuma dynadrag 1000,okuma ceymar 8 and okums surf 8k and I always find myself using the dynadrag or sharky. I love the baitfeed latch
You guys are the goats
Appreciate ya sir!
Why 4 strand?
strong, abrasion resistant, casts smooth, gets through grass well.
@aaanglers ive always heard 4 strand was " damaging to eyelets" but I always thought that was kind of an old tale also.
youguys are awesome
Akit better cheaper options than the Kastking Zephyr...then again BFE doesn't sell them so I guess they won't be mentioned here
What options?
Never heard of Akit and can’t seem to find them on the old interwebs… No need for the jab about BFE. You know we are down to try everything, always have been.
@@aaanglers sorry that was a typo, it was meant to say "alot better options"
@@paulglass7268 soloking Acura, Seasir Cast X, bearking Zeus just to mention a few