The headphone jack is also a digital output. You can get a 3.5mm to toslink cable to connect it to an external DAC or amplifier with a quality onboard DAC.
@@alistermccallum I’ve always noticed audio output from MacBooks is significantly louder and clearer than most, if not all PCs I’ve ever used. That’s an awesome tidbit, thanks for sharing!
this is still a very solid machine, even in 2024, still have bunch of these at the office, great tactile keyboard, maintenance easy, robust case dan durable machine, still going ok with office task usage on daily basis.
@@NOSTALGILAK Yep! They checked all the boxes with this one. It feels like a homage to Steve Jobs as the original versions of this design were produced while he was still alive
I have a few of these 2012 MBP and love them. Still beautiful and super easy to upgrade. After upgrading them to 500GB SSD and put 16GB Ram, which cost about $60, they are great to put parallel and then older versions of Windows like 98, XP, and Windows 7 to be able to run older windows programs.
That’s awesome! It’s nice how capable older programs are minus all the AI and internet connected blubber. Also nice is that the Ivy Bridge CPUs in these MacBooks are the last to support Windows XP natively which means you theoretically could install it as a standalone OS. I’m learning about more and more uses for these every day. :)
I have newer MacBooks too but I know long after they fail I’ll have this one to fall back on. You should see the huge PowerPC community that’s still using their old iBooks and PowerMacs for upwards of 20 years!
I threw in a 2012 MacBook Pro logic board into a 2011 case with the network card upgraded to what's in the 2012 Macs. Thought the logic board was dead, nope, it was perfectly fine, and I really see how good these are. Not putting the 2011 logic board back into it's original case any time soon, macOS Sonoma runs well, and Windows 10 runs better than some of the Windows PCs being sold today, even Windows 11 ran really well, but the bootcamp driver stuff causing the Mac to blue screen made me go back to Windows 10.
@@oldipodee That’s awesome. The possibilities are endless with the metal supported integrated graphics. The blue screen in W11 must be due to the lack of TPM 2.0, no way around that but to install it directly but Sonoma is an awesome candidate for a future video! Thanks for the insight, you’ve probably saved a lot of people time
@@mikepxg6406 This is single handedly the best advice I have ever heard on this platform. Also remember not to feed your computer water, it does not get thirsty
One note about laptops using SATA 2.5 inch hard drives is that it's easy to get an SSD for 512 GB or 1 TB which will offer reasonable storage and faster speeds. As of August 2024, a 1 TB SSD is around $60. Just be sure to get a quality SSD like Samsung, PNY, and Crucial as the off-brand SSDs tend to have reliability issues often failing within a few months. These particular SSDs are also used on old PCs sold refurbished on Amazon which I can tell due to reviewers complaining of the SSD failing and the computer not booting.
@@ScarletAmethyst Wow, didn’t realize 1TB SSDs got that cheap. As for refurbished drives, an easy way to tell the total usage on a drive is to plug it in with an adapter into a PC and run CrystalDiskInfo from online to see the total power on hours of the drive. Excellent comment!
That is true. These models are truly gems that people do not know. I stumbled on this discovery when i bought a bulk of 2015 MBP 15", 2. 2012 MBP 13", 1. 2006 Macbook. None work with no storage, ram and other issue. They all work now except the 2006. I did not pay a bunch. I paid less than $130 for 4 and after buying parts to fix still less than$250 for all 4. Originally I just want the 2015 15" with retina display but once i started playing with the 2012 I found out that they are excellent for all my use. As fast and as good with the more powerful 2015 model. The 2012 MBP is built like a tank sturdy and reliable and still look great in 2024. Excellent price performance and quality from the older Macbook not just pro but air model too. There is NO 2012 window laptop that equal to 2012 MBP. Also there is NO window laptop that can run linux and Mac os but Macbook can run window, macos and linux.
@@whatmust8146 There’s only 1 Windows laptop from the time period that even comes close and that’s the Dell XPS L702x. I had one and was going to do a review but I left it outside and naturally it got stolen :( It was a great (but expensive) machine for the time and the only downside is that the JBL sound system was known for blowing out and mine was no exception. Definitely worth checking out if you can find an affordable used one, everyone’s trying to get $150-$250+ since they’re “rare” but you might get lucky on Facebook Marketplace or OfferUp
I actually had none of the issues that were mentioned in the video. I owned this mid 2012 in 2012 and had it for 4 years until it had such a weird problem that I sold it for parts. The first issue was 2 years after owning it and it was the hard drive that they needed to replace and viruses. 2 years later it was the hard drive cable that needed to be replaces and 2 months later I got a map with a question mark on a black screen. I couldn't figure out what the issue was but was afraid it was the motherboard. I must admit that I was quite tough on that laptop haha played the sims on it with downloads and my laptop was on all the time even at night, which is not a good idea.
The dead harddrive issue and the virus's are not really the laptops issue :' ) , The Cable however , thats the first time i've heard of that issue for this laptop. it could of possibly be caused by physical damage during a hardrive replacement as in general Sata cables are a little delicate :' )
Sounds like your hard drive is failing or the hard drive cable is defunct but it’s detecting there’s a hard drive, it just can’t boot up with what it finds
I got mine a couple days ago from eBay and upgraded the ram and SSD and replaced the cd drive with another SSD and I replaced the battery And I put macOS Sequoia on it with OCLP Edit: I got mine for $75 Specs: 16 GB of RAM 240 GB SSD for the operating system 512 GB SSD FOR STORAGE macOS Sequoia Dual core i5
The headphone jack is also a digital output. You can get a 3.5mm to toslink cable to connect it to an external DAC or amplifier with a quality onboard DAC.
@@alistermccallum I’ve always noticed audio output from MacBooks is significantly louder and clearer than most, if not all PCs I’ve ever used. That’s an awesome tidbit, thanks for sharing!
this is still a very solid machine, even in 2024, still have bunch of these at the office, great tactile keyboard, maintenance easy, robust case dan durable machine, still going ok with office task usage on daily basis.
@@NOSTALGILAK Yep! They checked all the boxes with this one. It feels like a homage to Steve Jobs as the original versions of this design were produced while he was still alive
Wow! This 12 year old mac has all the features I need to have for a machine so called `laptop`.
Yep! Get one before they’re all gone :)
I have one and right now use everyday.
Back when MacBook was not that different from a Windows laptop. Such a good machine.
@@phuongduybui5392 They look like the new MacBooks with their sharp edges and hold up better than anything that came after it!
Inactive account? Anyway great vid 😊
I can’t change the name back for another few days, I almost lost my account but got it back at the last moment
I have a few of these 2012 MBP and love them. Still beautiful and super easy to upgrade.
After upgrading them to 500GB SSD and put 16GB Ram, which cost about $60, they are great to put parallel and then older versions of Windows like 98, XP, and Windows 7 to be able to run older windows programs.
That’s awesome! It’s nice how capable older programs are minus all the AI and internet connected blubber. Also nice is that the Ivy Bridge CPUs in these MacBooks are the last to support Windows XP natively which means you theoretically could install it as a standalone OS. I’m learning about more and more uses for these every day. :)
Super easy to add ram and a SSD. OCLP allows users to upgrade to Monterey or Sonoma and Linux also works well.
@@a.lawrence4969 Thanks for the information. I completely neglected to mention it’s great Linux support. This is a golden comment, thanks!
HAHA! I'm watching your video on one hooked up to a Samsung monitor! Yes, I have a newer MBP but this one is my fav and it still does just fine.
I have newer MacBooks too but I know long after they fail I’ll have this one to fall back on. You should see the huge PowerPC community that’s still using their old iBooks and PowerMacs for upwards of 20 years!
I threw in a 2012 MacBook Pro logic board into a 2011 case with the network card upgraded to what's in the 2012 Macs. Thought the logic board was dead, nope, it was perfectly fine, and I really see how good these are. Not putting the 2011 logic board back into it's original case any time soon, macOS Sonoma runs well, and Windows 10 runs better than some of the Windows PCs being sold today, even Windows 11 ran really well, but the bootcamp driver stuff causing the Mac to blue screen made me go back to Windows 10.
@@oldipodee That’s awesome. The possibilities are endless with the metal supported integrated graphics. The blue screen in W11 must be due to the lack of TPM 2.0, no way around that but to install it directly but Sonoma is an awesome candidate for a future video! Thanks for the insight, you’ve probably saved a lot of people time
Never throw a Logic board you will damage it. Better to install it.
@@mikepxg6406 This is single handedly the best advice I have ever heard on this platform. Also remember not to feed your computer water, it does not get thirsty
I have one, the mac OS was slowing it down so much but then I put linux mint on it and it runs like brand new.
@@jtdripp I would explore installing an SSD and dual booting MacOS and Linux. It makes a huge difference
One note about laptops using SATA 2.5 inch hard drives is that it's easy to get an SSD for 512 GB or 1 TB which will offer reasonable storage and faster speeds. As of August 2024, a 1 TB SSD is around $60. Just be sure to get a quality SSD like Samsung, PNY, and Crucial as the off-brand SSDs tend to have reliability issues often failing within a few months. These particular SSDs are also used on old PCs sold refurbished on Amazon which I can tell due to reviewers complaining of the SSD failing and the computer not booting.
@@ScarletAmethyst Wow, didn’t realize 1TB SSDs got that cheap. As for refurbished drives, an easy way to tell the total usage on a drive is to plug it in with an adapter into a PC and run CrystalDiskInfo from online to see the total power on hours of the drive. Excellent comment!
That is true. These models are truly gems that people do not know.
I stumbled on this discovery when i bought a bulk of 2015 MBP 15", 2. 2012 MBP 13", 1. 2006 Macbook. None work with no storage, ram and other issue. They all work now except the 2006.
I did not pay a bunch. I paid less than $130 for 4 and after buying parts to fix still less than$250 for all 4.
Originally I just want the 2015 15" with retina display but once i started playing with the 2012 I found out that they are excellent for all my use. As fast and as good with the more powerful 2015 model.
The 2012 MBP is built like a tank sturdy and reliable and still look great in 2024.
Excellent price performance and quality from the older Macbook not just pro but air model too.
There is NO 2012 window laptop that equal to 2012 MBP. Also there is NO window laptop that can run linux and Mac os but Macbook can run window, macos and linux.
@@whatmust8146 There’s only 1 Windows laptop from the time period that even comes close and that’s the Dell XPS L702x. I had one and was going to do a review but I left it outside and naturally it got stolen :( It was a great (but expensive) machine for the time and the only downside is that the JBL sound system was known for blowing out and mine was no exception. Definitely worth checking out if you can find an affordable used one, everyone’s trying to get $150-$250+ since they’re “rare” but you might get lucky on Facebook Marketplace or OfferUp
I have three of these. Sonoma runs great via Open Core patcher
@@Mbro-dq2do I’ll give it a shot at some point!
I actually had none of the issues that were mentioned in the video. I owned this mid 2012 in 2012 and had it for 4 years until it had such a weird problem that I sold it for parts. The first issue was 2 years after owning it and it was the hard drive that they needed to replace and viruses. 2 years later it was the hard drive cable that needed to be replaces and 2 months later I got a map with a question mark on a black screen. I couldn't figure out what the issue was but was afraid it was the motherboard. I must admit that I was quite tough on that laptop haha played the sims on it with downloads and my laptop was on all the time even at night, which is not a good idea.
The dead harddrive issue and the virus's are not really the laptops issue :' ) , The Cable however , thats the first time i've heard of that issue for this laptop. it could of possibly be caused by physical damage during a hardrive replacement as in general Sata cables are a little delicate :' )
Sounds like your hard drive is failing or the hard drive cable is defunct but it’s detecting there’s a hard drive, it just can’t boot up with what it finds
I have a MacBook Pro Mid-2012 connected to a HP 22 ER monitor and both my MacBook Pro & the HP ER 22 monitor has a stretched display SMH!!!!!!!!!🤦🏾♂️
@@HowYouMove Set the display to extend if you want a second display or adjust the resolution until it looks right
I got mine a couple days ago from eBay and upgraded the ram and SSD and replaced the cd drive with another SSD and I replaced the battery
And I put macOS Sequoia on it with OCLP
Edit: I got mine for $75
Specs:
16 GB of RAM
240 GB SSD for the operating system
512 GB SSD FOR STORAGE
macOS Sequoia
Dual core i5
typing from MacBook pro 2014
@@gengopal9686 Those are pretty good too
Nobody wants this bulky piece of aluminum
Best anti-theft device ever
@@RealElementProductions lol, but we came so far it's great to appreciate it doh.
I do.
maybe it's because you don't have the money to buy one..😆