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China's annex pattern may be looking to restart. Kissinger's arrogance caused him to underestimated China. The last time USA annexed a country was Hawaii in 1898. Since World War II, Empire of CCP China has doubled it's historic size by annexing the following countries: 1949: The People’s Republic of China (PRC) was established. Shortly after, it annexed Xinjiang and defeated 100,000 troops using wooden fishing boats on Battle of Hainan Island. 1950: The PRC took control of the Zhoushan Archipelago. 1951: The PRC claimed the area of the Tibet Autonomous Region. 1954: During the First Taiwan Strait Crisis, the PRC annexed the Yijiangshan Islands and Dachen Islands. 1962: After the Sino-Indian War, China maintained control over areas of Aksai Chin and the Trans-Karakoram Tract, while India controlled the North-East Frontier Agency area, now known as Arunachal Pradesh. 1969: Following the Sino-Soviet border conflict, the Soviet Union controlled Zhenbao Island, which was later granted to China in the 2000s.
The comment section is totally compromised. Will not be surprised if the You tube algo also pushes it down everyone's watch list.. Fascinating insights.. I hope we succeed..
seriously man, it's saddening and sickening to read some of these comments, I'm a cybersecurity student and just naturally pay attention to stuff like this, but i really wish more Americans understood the threat of China, tik tok, and the possible seizing of Taiwan; the CCP has explicitly stated time and time again that they plan to take Taiwan, when this happens, which all indications point towards this evitability (I don't have enough free time to write about all the stuff China does to prove this, just done your own research at trustworthy sources), thousands and thousands of lives on all sides, China, US, and our allies, will be lost as a hostile take over of another country is going to involve some level of brute force. If China captures the semiconductor fabrication company TSMC, trust and believe our comfy way of live (for most Americans that is, even our poor are better off than the poor of many other countries) will drastically be changed; almost everything we love and rely on technology wise has microchips in them, the importance of a takeover by China of this company cannot be overstated
Hi - I read through the comments and couldn’t find a bot. Can you elaborate why you think there are bots? - I’m trying to learn from others that know more than I.
I love tiktok and I've learned so much on there. I've gotten so inspired and tried out new hobbies, books, recipes, cameras, etc thanks to it. I cannot believe how much better the algo is compared to reels. Reels is like being stuck watching America's funniest home videos with Bob Saget in 1996, bleck. Reels really needs to step up. Just utter trash content for the most part. But I'm also totally in favor of forcing Tiktok to leave or sell to a US company. Same thing happened with Grindr, no?
surprising you've found it so valuable, but good to hear. Do you often get trash in your feed too or is it high quality? Is it fast paced new book recommendations or the feed is mostly slow?
@@olivergilpin there's some trash. But my feed is mostly crafting, cooking, therapy, biking, camping content...ie good stuff. I can't get reels to give me the same quality.
Amazing stories! And fascinating insights. I agree that service can be an unparalleled call to adventure that can take our life or many of the lives in this world’s vast array, in such remarkable directions that our dreams of childhood will seem pale in comparison. And return us with the ability to really laugh at the fun and folly of our selves and the whole human enterprise.
GREAT interview, very admirable of Matt Pottinger's profound knowledge, courage, and action in support of the free world. Taiwanese people will also fight for the free world, very grateful for the support of the United States and many other countries! 🙏 💪
but isn't that the same thing as UA-cam deciding what's trending or not. In my opinion, it's actually a good idea to have multi country to be joining the main social platforms, otherwise, if America is the monopoly, how do you know if America is not manipulating the world news?
would you want one-party states to have the same amount of control over this hypothetical algorithm as countries where there there is more of a balance of power (multi-party democracies)?
Yt actually actively censorship stuff(and other platforms also heavily manipulate information). For example, when war in Ukraine started, yt banned one pro-russian channel with 1.5 mln subscribers. Even though the channel was about movies and games, political views of owner were enough to ban it.
@axileus9327 There absolutely is "vested authority" in the US government to "make this move"... didn't you listen to the video??? Its been a set constitutionally approved and upheld by case law over and over for about one century (going back to pre world war two). Its NOT a first amendment violation... especially when they're not saying TikTok can't exist... they're just saying it can't be owned and operated by a foreign entity... just like China does itself.
Well to begin with, every social media has a different output from the algorithm based on their individual charasteristics and usage. What do you watch longer, what do u search for, what is your age group, what is the most relevent subject for the country you're located in and that applies to youtube, facebook, instagram and tik tok. Mat is making quite a bit of blanket statements without much proof here. It's like screaming chicken do little with not much to show. When he says that he expects tik tok to show the same thing as douyin, that's quite laughable. Which account is he using to view douyin and how often does he use it ? Believe me, there's lots of douyin content out there and they're not exactly tame as he wants us to believe.
Is it wrong ? for one to protact its own sovereignt, by doing all the measured it needs, and however one other one was too, but simply just because its different rouling system, people will always label one as enemies or bad guy, at the mean time will accept its own leader bad behaviors do all the bad things to others are on going .
Read Kai-Fu Lee's AI Superpowers if you want to be terrified. It outlines how China's long game 4D chess skills is unfolding for AI dominance. It explains how AI dominance is the real global arms race right now. China's talent at coalescing its collective will and energy, all its engineers, students, resources etc. around the central National goal of AI dominance set by Xi. Everything else (Ukraine Iran Taiwan drones, robots etc.) keep attention from this emerging AI threat that will give China economic dominance.
I'm from Taiwan and I've watched this video at least a dozen times now. I wanted to comment so badly but thought maybe I should wait and watch it again. I'll be honest...I'm not sure how to feel about this. I wanted to love this guy so much. I mean...what's not to love? A very likable guy that speaks fairly decent Mandarin with a Beijing accent to boot. But the more I watch this video, the more dreadful it gets for me. For starters, his military background scares me and the fact that he actually called China "hostile". When all I'm seeing is hostility from America, not from China. It's America that's been doing all the punching! There has been a rumor that America has sent US troops to Kinmen (金門), which is a tiny island that is closer to mainland China than it is to Taiwan, if that's true that means US troops are right on the Chinese border. Do you know how insane that is?? I'm hoping there won't be any wars between China and America in the next couple years. I pray to God for the sake of the children in Taiwan, mainland China and America, this constant hostility will die down soon! War won't solve any problem, it will just create more hostility and hatred! I hope cooler heads in Washington will prevail and stop this nonsense ASAP!
@@koikoi9817but it is not China that started most of the wars we know in the last 50 years. This guy works for the US military complex and knosn to makd up lies to justify the means. Despite knowing the US is deep in debt he and Gallagher is promting the idea to provide more funding for his employer.
I am from Taiwan, but I can't understand what you're talking about at all. I don't know if you're a bot or something else. Your arguments are illogical and completely different from what Taiwanese people think. Taiwanese people are very proactive in cooperating with Americans to resist Chinese invasion, and like Americans.
I really like Tim’s work but going full into propaganda and politics is a not what I expect from Tim… the guy is spreading out infos and opinions and Tim does not challenge him a single bit. Politics is an oligarchs world… better stick to topics that unite people instead of promote war.
@@user-xp5id1kh4r not really - you see - those badmouthing any country have interests they represent. None of them in power truly care about us building and creating the world. I think all wars are a business. You sell weapons, armor, etc. Same with economic wars. They benefits an oligarchs business.... So I'm for the people. In every country. I'm for focusing on building a better world. Maybe one day we can all aim for collaboration and peace.
Why did Tim Ferriss do this interview? It's a far cry from the usual self-help, life hacks & self-optimization he usually likes to cover... I listened to the entire thing and found the vibe very strange and off-putting :(
This is a hugely one sided (propaganda level) pod. Some balance would be more intellectually honest. I know ita not a political channel, but this is so weird.
Tim sold out for this video. Additional relevant info= Tik Tok servers are based in US, 100% users pers info are based in US and can't be accessed by China. They banned Tik Tok because 70% ++ of users where pro Pal. This guy is a paid professional liar (often called propaganda) . And lastly US recognized Taiwan as Chinese in the 70's.
Stop throwing out buzzwords like "this is propaganda". Point out talking points you disagree with and put out a counterargument. Otherwise you're no better than a Chinese bot
@@plumrains5010 "Chinese bot" is a dismissive talking point. Anyone who watched the whole thing can see it. I'm not here to tell anyone how to podcast. Anyone is free to hold any POV they want. I was just disappointed that Tim Ferris did not ask better questions to push back. I lived in China for 20 years. There is an unbelievable amount of missing context and a lack of depth being communicated by this guest. Fine...But he's not helping advocate for peace. Its also sad that US propaganda is so repeated and blatant that the argument against it have become "buzzwords."
@axileus9327 That's not at all what "propaganda" is, lmao... what you're describing is what is known as an "opinion". I know, very complex concept. Some people might not understand
Pretty weak stuff on TikTok. Matt's giving the standard US government narrative about TikTok and China. You can hear the exact same talking points on CNN every night of the week. Tim, you should have someone with tech depth respond to these weak shallow arguments.
My thoughts exactly, and it always grates on me when my intelligence is insulted. When you're well versed in what logical fallacies and cognitive biases are, these kinds of arguments/talking-points don't pass the smell test.
Interesting . Chou Zi Chew is from Singapore . I watched him and I was quite impressed by his manners. His wife is Americans& so are his kids. He was telling the Commissiom that he served for 21/2 in the army in Singapore . When you were talking in Chinese was it Cantonese or Mamdatin ? There was a Prime Minister of Australia that was fluent in Mandarin or Cantonese Kevin Rudd and his daughter was fluent in either Mandarin or Cantonese. When I lived in Australia. I don’t have a problem with China wanting to build up with other ASian countries . Building bridges , opening the market building trains across Asia. What you are saying about they can also used sea containers. I saw those in Singapore . Is n’t there a bit of paranoia there from your side ? We want to build happy joyful new generation with love not war& respect . That’s how I see it. Thank you both copyright Marie-Christine Cauvy
two things can be true at the same time. Tiktok is a powerful tool being used by the Chinese government to spy on and control young people in the US. At the same time, the main reason people in DC want to ban it is because they want to censor anti-israel speech.
The argument for censorship is national security. But the US govt has a big self interest in maintaining the US Govt-Silicon Valley censorship regime. They were able to control the public discourse during Covid, the 2020 election and Russia Collusion. As Matt Benz says, the US govt wants a state monopoly on fake news. TikTok breaks this monopoly. So does Rumble. So does Twitter. Watch for all of them to be hit.
I agree that a lot of china’s policies are unacceptable but to mention Israel without criticism of the human rights crisis in Gaza is very hypocritical. It’s the pot calling the kettle black
Taiwan “matters because of economics, it matters for us.” This video on America good and China bad brought to you by wealthfront. Says it all right there lol
What's insane is it's 1 platform... 1. There's supposed to be a free market. Even if there is more foreign influence than ideal with TikTok, it's just 1 option and it should be available for consumes to use or not use. Sure, it's doing well but you know why it's doing well? Most people who use it feel like they are able to communicate better without platform interference than the other "American Owned" platforms. That's what people find so annoying about the tiktok ban is that aside from perhaps twitter these days which is limited in it's communication by design, every other major platform feels catered, censored and overbearing in all the ways he's claiming "could" happen to tiktok. It's BS. This whole interview smells bad
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Insta and facebook is 100% CIA. Of course when US says China is #1 enemy, you don't let their CIA platform in your country. On the opposite, China NEVER designated US as and enemy, or a danger in anyway. Only US need enemy 24h/365days to justify stealing TRILLIONS to the American population. And justify killing millions (Irak, Syria, Lybia, Serbia, Somalia, Laos, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Grenada, gosh the list never stops)
When AI dismantled China's 19 year old Go player it shocked the country and created China's Sputnik moment. The country pivoted everything toward AI dominance ever since.
Lol tiktok is the biggest poop ive never used Also here in the netherlands there is a town we chased away all chinese restaurants the last went because we bombarded it with eggs. The shopowner went after us. And after that one random chinese guy was stalking us at our job using our toilet dixie outside and threatened that ‘he knows who we are’ lol. We still laugh about it. Later i accidentally discovered this guys home when i saw him washing his car outside rofl
Very animated and interesting guest and a thoroughly enjoyable conversation.He makes Taiwan seem like the Shangri-la of the East. Please excuse my presumptiveness, but my interest in that place started with looking at Google Earth BSL 2, 3 and BSL 4 Biolabs, alll underground and all busy making Gain of Function military grade bioweapons for their Masters. Taiwan reportedly had 22-23 BSL 2 and 3 labs and a BSL 4 (the worst and most deadly). Fill in the blanks who you think that may be. I'm from Australia and Google Earth revealed 4 BSL Level 4 Biolabs here , so our Governent's hands are in no way clean. When underground Bioweapons are being manufactured everyone is a potential target. Could those earthquakes possibly have been underground military destruction of the aforementioned? I dearly hope so.
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Not a fan of Alex, I prefer "neutralswiss" channel creator_ Pascal Najadi, an ex Swiss Airforce officer, (on Rumble), who filed a lawsuit against the Swiss President and asked for an investigation into the Swiss Health Minister. I was a journalist , working F/T at the U.N. (New York) where they rolled out Agendas 21 and Agenda 2030. You know, New World Order stuff. I do not need the likes of AJ for my sources or perspeectives, PS we are all in a massive learning curve, myself inxluded. Peace out.
Disappointed in you Tim. I can see the respect you have for Matt but you let him turn your podcast into a propaganda piece. Not pushing back on the warmongering, McCarthyism, and shameless pro Israeli talking points discredits the more insightful parts of your conversation. If you wish to become a political commenter, it would benefit your audience to be more than a sounding horn. Look no further than Rogan to see what happens when you go down this path.
@@user-xp5id1kh4r lol everything being pushed by U.S. state actors you mean. I won't deny it's two sides of the same coin, but at least TikTok isn't actively promoting violence like this guy is.
@@KeithCooks How is this guy "actively promoting violence"? I must've zoned out when he was doing that... the only thing I heard even close to "actively promoting violence" was maybe related to "promoting" defense or maybe arming allies to "de-promote" them from being "actively" attacked by larger state actors (like China if they were to directly attack Taiwan or the Phillipines or something like that)
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Sorry but in no world do I take 'shilling the military industrial complex' as a sign of good will towards 'defense' or 'deescalation'. I don't have time to scrub through the whole video again but a lot of talk of showing a 'force of will' is legitimately concerning. It's a call to arms. I would give him the benefit of the doubt if he was coming from a place of peace, but keep in mind this is the man who proudly admits that following 9/11 he dropped everything he was doing to go oversees and wage war. The way that conflict played out is an indication that we we're not exactly promoting peace there either.
so it's all right to claim China is doing genocide but what Israel is doing is not a genocide. this episode seems such a propaganda piece. anyways Thanks Tim at least I was able to hear the US govt concerns. I could never have heard such stuff if someone else was hosting such an episode.
The TikTok debate is interesting. Yes, there are worries about other countries having too much influence. But people should be free to choose what apps they use. It's good to have competition like TikTok because it makes sure we get what we want from social media. We just need to make sure it's safe for everyone.
You did not listen to the whole podcast. That's what they're saying. It's not about banning tiktok it's about making it safer by not having it controlled by the CCP like it currently is.
You're missing the point. The guy even said its fine for TikTok to exist... it just can't be under control/ownership of the mainland China. Which is how it operates right now. Basically, just like China does, it can't be under the control of a foreign state actor. Its fine if it exists though
@@user-xp5id1kh4r why can China own farmland in the US? And how long before the govt determines Elon Musk a “threat” and forces him to sell ownership of Twitter
Bringing McCarthy into the narrative?!?! Seriously? And "Taiwan doesn't design chips, American companies design chips. " Get the chip off your shoulder, please. There are intelligent and innovative people all over the world and the brain drain to US is horrible. As for the TikTok, the whole issue is: they are better than us at propaganda so we have to one-up them
He was quoting MacArthur, Douglas MacArthur, a United States army general who fought in many wars - WWI, WWII, and the Korean war. The pos you're thinking of is MaCarthy, Joseph McCarthy, a US senator in the 50s who was a real jerk to anybody who cared about the social welfare of their fellow Americans. He started the whole Red Scare stuff in Congress exposing anyone who ever had anything to do with Socialism and labeling them as Communists ("The Enemy"), even if it was just a passing intellectual interest in alternative economic models. He's the one responsible for that dark chapter of snitching and paranoia in American history known as "McCarthyism".
Taiwan stays afloat if the US is out of the way. I can explain this using the Ukraine example. Ukraine has been thoroughly interfered by US-led NATO since 2014. To date, do you consider Ukraine is still afloat? Unlike the West, China has not brought war to places it sets its foot on. Do we fear China or do we need to fear America. Now this is worth a strategic dive-in.
Tim sold vitamins in Taiwan. How come that’s not highlighted in his intro - rather than, San Francisco, Silicon Valley, the 4 hour work week (bs) - this guy does not work 4 hours a week. By the way, what is the CIA doing in China’s national security?
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China's annex pattern may be looking to restart. Kissinger's arrogance caused him to underestimated China. The last time USA annexed a country was Hawaii in 1898. Since World War II, Empire of CCP China has doubled it's historic size by annexing the following countries:
1949: The People’s Republic of China (PRC) was established. Shortly after, it annexed Xinjiang and defeated 100,000 troops using wooden fishing boats on Battle of Hainan Island.
1950: The PRC took control of the Zhoushan Archipelago.
1951: The PRC claimed the area of the Tibet Autonomous Region.
1954: During the First Taiwan Strait Crisis, the PRC annexed the Yijiangshan Islands and Dachen Islands.
1962: After the Sino-Indian War, China maintained control over areas of Aksai Chin and the Trans-Karakoram Tract, while India controlled the North-East Frontier Agency area, now known as Arunachal Pradesh.
1969: Following the Sino-Soviet border conflict, the Soviet Union controlled Zhenbao Island, which was later granted to China in the 2000s.
Seems a bit strange seeing Tim and the guest speaking in Mandarin, but very good pronunciation.
Hello from Taiwan 🇹🇼
說的流利，發音相當標準！
Bot much? Democracy, give everyone a break. Hamas and Israel. Stupid.
The comment section is totally compromised. Will not be surprised if the You tube algo also pushes it down everyone's watch list..
Fascinating insights.. I hope we succeed..
Interesting character for sure ... thank you for being such a great interviewer...you handled this interview with so much grace.
Great episode, I learned a lot!
Great episode! Very insightful!
Lots of Chinese bots here in the comments...
seriously man, it's saddening and sickening to read some of these comments, I'm a cybersecurity student and just naturally pay attention to stuff like this, but i really wish more Americans understood the threat of China, tik tok, and the possible seizing of Taiwan; the CCP has explicitly stated time and time again that they plan to take Taiwan, when this happens, which all indications point towards this evitability (I don't have enough free time to write about all the stuff China does to prove this, just done your own research at trustworthy sources), thousands and thousands of lives on all sides, China, US, and our allies, will be lost as a hostile take over of another country is going to involve some level of brute force. If China captures the semiconductor fabrication company TSMC, trust and believe our comfy way of live (for most Americans that is, even our poor are better off than the poor of many other countries) will drastically be changed; almost everything we love and rely on technology wise has microchips in them, the importance of a takeover by China of this company cannot be overstated
@axileus9327 he explained how it's not a first amendment issue, you're not too good at this debate stuff are ya little buddy
@axileus9327 you have been brainwashed. Now back to china
Hi - I read through the comments and couldn’t find a bot. Can you elaborate why you think there are bots? - I’m trying to learn from others that know more than I.
@@hamilton7181 When someone mentioned China will just attack Taiwan and seize it, it just shows a lack a political awareness of Chinese history.
Great information, very useful and relevant. ❤
What an interesting guy
I love tiktok and I've learned so much on there. I've gotten so inspired and tried out new hobbies, books, recipes, cameras, etc thanks to it. I cannot believe how much better the algo is compared to reels. Reels is like being stuck watching America's funniest home videos with Bob Saget in 1996, bleck. Reels really needs to step up. Just utter trash content for the most part.
But I'm also totally in favor of forcing Tiktok to leave or sell to a US company. Same thing happened with Grindr, no?
surprising you've found it so valuable, but good to hear. Do you often get trash in your feed too or is it high quality?
Is it fast paced new book recommendations or the feed is mostly slow?
@@olivergilpin there's some trash. But my feed is mostly crafting, cooking, therapy, biking, camping content...ie good stuff. I can't get reels to give me the same quality.
Amazing stories! And fascinating insights. I agree that service can be an unparalleled call to adventure that can take our life or many of the lives in this world’s vast array, in such remarkable directions that our dreams of childhood will seem pale in comparison.
And return us with the ability to really laugh at the fun and folly of our selves and the whole human enterprise.
GREAT interview, very admirable of Matt Pottinger's profound knowledge, courage, and action in support of the free world. Taiwanese people will also fight for the free world, very grateful for the support of the United States and many other countries! 🙏 💪
Like his namesake Henry Pottinger..Opium War General
but isn't that the same thing as UA-cam deciding what's trending or not. In my opinion, it's actually a good idea to have multi country to be joining the main social platforms, otherwise, if America is the monopoly, how do you know if America is not manipulating the world news?
would you want one-party states to have the same amount of control over this hypothetical algorithm as countries where there there is more of a balance of power (multi-party democracies)?
american social media is not allowed in China. case closed.
@@Jordan18561 I think power being distributed can be beneficial in some ways
Yt actually actively censorship stuff(and other platforms also heavily manipulate information). For example, when war in Ukraine started, yt banned one pro-russian channel with 1.5 mln subscribers. Even though the channel was about movies and games, political views of owner were enough to ban it.
@axileus9327 There absolutely is "vested authority" in the US government to "make this move"... didn't you listen to the video??? Its been a set constitutionally approved and upheld by case law over and over for about one century (going back to pre world war two). Its NOT a first amendment violation... especially when they're not saying TikTok can't exist... they're just saying it can't be owned and operated by a foreign entity... just like China does itself.
Well to begin with, every social media has a different output from the algorithm based on their individual charasteristics and usage. What do you watch longer, what do u search for, what is your age group, what is the most relevent subject for the country you're located in and that applies to youtube, facebook, instagram and tik tok. Mat is making quite a bit of blanket statements without much proof here. It's like screaming chicken do little with not much to show. When he says that he expects tik tok to show the same thing as douyin, that's quite laughable. Which account is he using to view douyin and how often does he use it ? Believe me, there's lots of douyin content out there and they're not exactly tame as he wants us to believe.
Is it wrong ? for one to protact its own sovereignt, by doing all the measured it needs, and however one other one was too, but simply just because its different rouling system, people will always label one as enemies or bad guy, at the mean time will accept its own leader bad behaviors do all the bad things to others are on going .
Tim ... Please get Peter Zeihan as a guest.
Read Kai-Fu Lee's AI Superpowers if you want to be terrified.
It outlines how China's long game 4D chess skills is unfolding for AI dominance. It explains how AI dominance is the real global arms race right now. China's talent at coalescing its collective will and energy, all its engineers, students, resources etc. around the central National goal of AI dominance set by Xi.
Everything else (Ukraine Iran Taiwan drones, robots etc.) keep attention from this emerging AI threat that will give China economic dominance.
I'm from Taiwan and I've watched this video at least a dozen times now. I wanted to comment so badly but thought maybe I should wait and watch it again. I'll be honest...I'm not sure how to feel about this. I wanted to love this guy so much. I mean...what's not to love? A very likable guy that speaks fairly decent Mandarin with a Beijing accent to boot. But the more I watch this video, the more dreadful it gets for me. For starters, his military background scares me and the fact that he actually called China "hostile". When all I'm seeing is hostility from America, not from China. It's America that's been doing all the punching! There has been a rumor that America has sent US troops to Kinmen (金門), which is a tiny island that is closer to mainland China than it is to Taiwan, if that's true that means US troops are right on the Chinese border. Do you know how insane that is?? I'm hoping there won't be any wars between China and America in the next couple years. I pray to God for the sake of the children in Taiwan, mainland China and America, this constant hostility will die down soon! War won't solve any problem, it will just create more hostility and hatred! I hope cooler heads in Washington will prevail and stop this nonsense ASAP!
Crazy to say that China is not the aggressor considering their activities in the South China Sea. Which they have absolutely no legitimate claim to.
@@koikoi9817but it is not China that started most of the wars we know in the last 50 years. This guy works for the US military complex and knosn to makd up lies to justify the means. Despite knowing the US is deep in debt he and Gallagher is promting the idea to provide more funding for his employer.
@@koikoi9817 The real aggressor is sending weapons all over the world, the more killing, the better. Guess who is this?
This guy works for US government, so this talking point is completely aligned with the US government propaganda guideline. Check out his wiki page.
I am from Taiwan, but I can't understand what you're talking about at all. I don't know if you're a bot or something else. Your arguments are illogical and completely different from what Taiwanese people think.
Taiwanese people are very proactive in cooperating with Americans to resist Chinese invasion, and like Americans.
Love so far, but a "good teacher" teaches, they don't drive people out of their class becuase of their attitude.
Go to 13:30 to get to discussion.
Tuned in to listen to a high performer, instead listened to an American empire apologist
What should he be an apologist for instead then? China? Russia? Iran? North Korea? Someone else? Lol, you're just mad he called China bad, lmaooo
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Don't get trapped in a false dichotomy
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Don't fall prey to a false dichotomy.
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Don't fall prey to a false dichotomy.
I really like Tim’s work but going full into propaganda and politics is a not what I expect from Tim… the guy is spreading out infos and opinions and Tim does not challenge him a single bit. Politics is an oligarchs world… better stick to topics that unite people instead of promote war.
lolololol, you're just mad that china was bad mouthed
@@user-xp5id1kh4r not really - you see - those badmouthing any country have interests they represent. None of them in power truly care about us building and creating the world. I think all wars are a business. You sell weapons, armor, etc. Same with economic wars. They benefits an oligarchs business.... So I'm for the people. In every country. I'm for focusing on building a better world. Maybe one day we can all aim for collaboration and peace.
@timferriss Who are the aides to the U.S. Senator Maria Cantwell of Washington, that Mr. Pottinger suggest to be the lobbyists for TikTok?
ah there it is, 15min in and the anti-israel argument (the real reason of the ban) comes out lol
And we know who controls the US now :D Interesting how Epstein was working for Gylaine (his hander) for them.
I did notice that he kept bringing up Israel. I'm pretty sure that's a different country than the USA.
Why did Tim Ferriss do this interview? It's a far cry from the usual self-help, life hacks & self-optimization he usually likes to cover... I listened to the entire thing and found the vibe very strange and off-putting :(
It's a PsyOp obviously
@@n8works 😂
It's a PsyOp, he sold out.
AIPAC = $ (thought control) ~ "Freedom" + "America First INO" ... you are free to think what you want, as long as its been approved by the chosen.
Tim is working for the Pentagon now 😂
This is a hugely one sided (propaganda level) pod. Some balance would be more intellectually honest. I know ita not a political channel, but this is so weird.
Tim sold out for this video. Additional relevant info= Tik Tok servers are based in US, 100% users pers info are based in US and can't be accessed by China. They banned Tik Tok because 70% ++ of users where pro Pal. This guy is a paid professional liar (often called propaganda) . And lastly US recognized Taiwan as Chinese in the 70's.
Yeah I agree with this. Bring some real Chinese people on. Eric X Li.
Stop throwing out buzzwords like "this is propaganda". Point out talking points you disagree with and put out a counterargument. Otherwise you're no better than a Chinese bot
@@plumrains5010 "Chinese bot" is a dismissive talking point. Anyone who watched the whole thing can see it. I'm not here to tell anyone how to podcast. Anyone is free to hold any POV they want. I was just disappointed that Tim Ferris did not ask better questions to push back. I lived in China for 20 years. There is an unbelievable amount of missing context and a lack of depth being communicated by this guest. Fine...But he's not helping advocate for peace. Its also sad that US propaganda is so repeated and blatant that the argument against it have become "buzzwords."
@axileus9327 That's not at all what "propaganda" is, lmao... what you're describing is what is known as an "opinion". I know, very complex concept. Some people might not understand
Pretty weak stuff on TikTok.
Matt's giving the standard US government narrative about TikTok and China. You can hear the exact same talking points on CNN every night of the week.
Tim, you should have someone with tech depth respond to these weak shallow arguments.
My thoughts exactly, and it always grates on me when my intelligence is insulted. When you're well versed in what logical fallacies and cognitive biases are, these kinds of arguments/talking-points don't pass the smell test.
Yeah I had to turn this one off. This guy is a simp for the State
Totally agree
AI will make the industrial & internet/digital revolutions look small and slow given the AI tsunami. Read Kai-Fu Lee!
Interesting . Chou Zi Chew is from Singapore . I watched him and I was quite impressed by his manners. His wife is Americans& so are his kids. He was telling the Commissiom that he served for 21/2 in the army in Singapore . When you were talking in Chinese was it Cantonese or Mamdatin ? There was a Prime Minister of Australia that was fluent in Mandarin or Cantonese Kevin Rudd and his daughter was fluent in either Mandarin or Cantonese. When I lived in Australia. I don’t have a problem with China wanting to build up with other ASian countries . Building bridges , opening the market building trains across Asia. What you are saying about they can also used sea containers. I saw those in Singapore . Is n’t there a bit of paranoia there from your side ? We want to build happy joyful new generation with love not war& respect . That’s how I see it. Thank you both copyright Marie-Christine Cauvy
I understand the argument vs Tik Tok. However, I still think it’s gross govt overreach and censorship
two things can be true at the same time. Tiktok is a powerful tool being used by the Chinese government to spy on and control young people in the US. At the same time, the main reason people in DC want to ban it is because they want to censor anti-israel speech.
The argument for censorship is national security.
But the US govt has a big self interest in maintaining the US Govt-Silicon Valley censorship regime. They were able to control the public discourse during Covid, the 2020 election and Russia Collusion.
As Matt Benz says, the US govt wants a state monopoly on fake news.
TikTok breaks this monopoly. So does Rumble. So does Twitter. Watch for all of them to be hit.
lol. This guy is so brainwashed
What did he specifically say that makes you say that?
I agree that a lot of china’s policies are unacceptable but to mention Israel without criticism of the human rights crisis in Gaza is very hypocritical. It’s the pot calling the kettle black
lol, you're just mad that china was bad mouthed
Taiwan “matters because of economics, it matters for us.” This video on America good and China bad brought to you by wealthfront. Says it all right there lol
Was born in Taiwan, they both speak better Mandarin than i do. Shoild i be ashamed
What's insane is it's 1 platform... 1. There's supposed to be a free market. Even if there is more foreign influence than ideal with TikTok, it's just 1 option and it should be available for consumes to use or not use. Sure, it's doing well but you know why it's doing well? Most people who use it feel like they are able to communicate better without platform interference than the other "American Owned" platforms. That's what people find so annoying about the tiktok ban is that aside from perhaps twitter these days which is limited in it's communication by design, every other major platform feels catered, censored and overbearing in all the ways he's claiming "could" happen to tiktok. It's BS. This whole interview smells bad
💯% right
Does China allow Facebook in China? Does it allow Instagram in China? What about Twitter? ...... what happened to the "free market", lololol
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Insta and facebook is 100% CIA. Of course when US says China is #1 enemy, you don't let their CIA platform in your country. On the opposite, China NEVER designated US as and enemy, or a danger in anyway. Only US need enemy 24h/365days to justify stealing TRILLIONS to the American population. And justify killing millions (Irak, Syria, Lybia, Serbia, Somalia, Laos, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Grenada, gosh the list never stops)
"Our alliances nato japan Australia are the US human shields"
Pottinger...Opium War General..1st British Governor of Hong Kong.
When AI dismantled China's 19 year old Go player it shocked the country and created China's Sputnik moment. The country pivoted everything toward AI dominance ever since.
Lol tiktok is the biggest poop ive never used
Also here in the netherlands there is a town we chased away all chinese restaurants the last went because we bombarded it with eggs. The shopowner went after us. And after that one random chinese guy was stalking us at our job using our toilet dixie outside and threatened that ‘he knows who we are’ lol. We still laugh about it. Later i accidentally discovered this guys home when i saw him washing his car outside rofl
Very animated and interesting guest and a thoroughly enjoyable conversation.He makes Taiwan seem like the Shangri-la of the East. Please excuse my presumptiveness, but my interest in that place started with looking at Google Earth BSL 2, 3 and BSL 4 Biolabs, alll underground and all busy making Gain of Function military grade bioweapons for their Masters. Taiwan reportedly had 22-23 BSL 2 and 3 labs and a BSL 4 (the worst and most deadly). Fill in the blanks who you think that may be.
I'm from Australia and Google Earth revealed 4 BSL Level 4 Biolabs here , so our Governent's hands are in no way clean. When underground Bioweapons are being manufactured everyone is a potential target. Could those earthquakes possibly have been underground military destruction of the aforementioned? I dearly hope so.
Stay off the Alex Jones man, it rots the brain, lol
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Not a fan of Alex, I prefer "neutralswiss" channel creator_ Pascal Najadi, an ex Swiss Airforce officer, (on Rumble), who filed a lawsuit against the Swiss President and asked for an investigation into the Swiss Health Minister. I was a journalist , working F/T at the U.N. (New York) where they rolled out Agendas 21 and Agenda 2030. You know, New World Order stuff.
I do not need the likes of AJ for my sources or perspeectives, PS we are all in a massive learning curve, myself inxluded. Peace out.
Disappointed in you Tim. I can see the respect you have for Matt but you let him turn your podcast into a propaganda piece. Not pushing back on the warmongering, McCarthyism, and shameless pro Israeli talking points discredits the more insightful parts of your conversation.
If you wish to become a political commenter, it would benefit your audience to be more than a sounding horn. Look no further than Rogan to see what happens when you go down this path.
LMAO! This comment covers literally everything they talked about that was being actively pushed by various state actors, lololololol
@@user-xp5id1kh4r lol everything being pushed by U.S. state actors you mean. I won't deny it's two sides of the same coin, but at least TikTok isn't actively promoting violence like this guy is.
Don't be too mad...Tim doesn't know his geopolitics, that's all
@@KeithCooks How is this guy "actively promoting violence"? I must've zoned out when he was doing that... the only thing I heard even close to "actively promoting violence" was maybe related to "promoting" defense or maybe arming allies to "de-promote" them from being "actively" attacked by larger state actors (like China if they were to directly attack Taiwan or the Phillipines or something like that)
@@user-xp5id1kh4r Sorry but in no world do I take 'shilling the military industrial complex' as a sign of good will towards 'defense' or 'deescalation'. I don't have time to scrub through the whole video again but a lot of talk of showing a 'force of will' is legitimately concerning. It's a call to arms.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt if he was coming from a place of peace, but keep in mind this is the man who proudly admits that following 9/11 he dropped everything he was doing to go oversees and wage war. The way that conflict played out is an indication that we we're not exactly promoting peace there either.
so it's all right to claim China is doing genocide but what Israel is doing is not a genocide.
this episode seems such a propaganda piece.
anyways Thanks Tim at least I was able to hear the US govt concerns. I could never have heard such stuff if someone else was hosting such an episode.
lol, someone's mad that china was bad mouthed
hahahaha, americans are just afraid someone did built a better platform. funny
lol, you're just mad that china was bad mouthed
The TikTok debate is interesting. Yes, there are worries about other countries having too much influence. But people should be free to choose what apps they use. It's good to have competition like TikTok because it makes sure we get what we want from social media. We just need to make sure it's safe for everyone.
And what’s to keep the govt from classifying Elon Musk as threat to force him to sell Twitter? I think Tik Tok is dumb but this sets a bad precedent.
You did not listen to the whole podcast. That's what they're saying. It's not about banning tiktok it's about making it safer by not having it controlled by the CCP like it currently is.
You're missing the point. The guy even said its fine for TikTok to exist... it just can't be under control/ownership of the mainland China. Which is how it operates right now. Basically, just like China does, it can't be under the control of a foreign state actor. Its fine if it exists though
@@user-xp5id1kh4r why can China own farmland in the US? And how long before the govt determines Elon Musk a “threat” and forces him to sell ownership of Twitter
Bringing McCarthy into the narrative?!?! Seriously? And "Taiwan doesn't design chips, American companies design chips. " Get the chip off your shoulder, please. There are intelligent and innovative people all over the world and the brain drain to US is horrible. As for the TikTok, the whole issue is: they are better than us at propaganda so we have to one-up them
What's Tauwan
@@Trowa159 did you ever hear of typos?
lmao, someone's mad that china was bad mouthed
@@user-xp5id1kh4r not mad at anything. Wish that somebody gets a realty check and gets off the high horse
He was quoting MacArthur, Douglas MacArthur, a United States army general who fought in many wars - WWI, WWII, and the Korean war.
The pos you're thinking of is MaCarthy, Joseph McCarthy, a US senator in the 50s who was a real jerk to anybody who cared about the social welfare of their fellow Americans. He started the whole Red Scare stuff in Congress exposing anyone who ever had anything to do with Socialism and labeling them as Communists ("The Enemy"), even if it was just a passing intellectual interest in alternative economic models.
He's the one responsible for that dark chapter of snitching and paranoia in American history known as "McCarthyism".
Taiwan stays afloat if the US is out of the way. I can explain this using the Ukraine example. Ukraine has been thoroughly interfered by US-led NATO since 2014. To date, do you consider Ukraine is still afloat? Unlike the West, China has not brought war to places it sets its foot on. Do we fear China or do we need to fear America. Now this is worth a strategic dive-in.
Tim sold vitamins in Taiwan. How come that’s not highlighted in his intro - rather than, San Francisco, Silicon Valley, the 4 hour work week (bs) - this guy does not work 4 hours a week. By the way, what is the CIA doing in China’s national security?
How many hours per week does he work? And what does your cia question mean, it doesn't make any sense
22:00 Professional question! The guest's view is so not convincing, looking at things only from the ideological perspective.
这不就是臭名昭著的博明吗？