Practical Hypnosis, Meditation vs. Hypnosis, Pain Management Without Drugs, and More - David Spiegel

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  • Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
  • Dr. David Spiegel is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975. He is the founder of Reveri, the world's first interactive self-hypnosis app.
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    Links to everything discussed: tim.blog/2024/04/10/dr-david-...
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    [00:33] How Herbert Spiegel was exposed to hypnosis.
    [03:56] Using hypnosis to cure non-epileptic seizures.
    [05:40] What is a forensic psychiatrist?
    [08:33] How hypnosis works.
    [11:51] Hypnosis and the flow state.
    [15:09] How hypnosis differs from meditation.
    [16:53] Determining one’s susceptibility to hypnosis.
    [21:51] I take the eye-roll test.
    [24:12] Thoughts on EMDR.
    [30:20] Therapeutic psychedelics and ego dissolution.
    [35:16] Potential adverse effects of hypnosis?
    [36:55] Accelerated TMS improves response to hypnosis.
    [38:49] Hypnosis as a tool for stress and pain relief.
    [43:36] David treats my back pain with hypnosis.
    [52:21] Replicating this effect with self-hypnosis.
    [53:14] Understanding the science of pain relief.
    [58:48] Filtering the hurt from the pain.
    [1:02:12] For us, not against us.
    [1:04:57] Hypnosis vs. other addiction interventions.
    [1:07:33] A mesmerizing tale of hypnotic history.
    [1:12:14] Most surprising patient outcomes.
    [1:21:28] Finding connection to treat the agitated.
    [1:25:31] Who is Reveri designed for?
    [1:28:16] Hypnosis as a first rather than last resort.
    [1:31:24] Further resources and final thoughts.
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  • @timferriss
    @timferriss  2 місяці тому +3

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    • @intro-sc1ut
      @intro-sc1ut 2 місяці тому

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  • @Reverihealth
    @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому +29

    Thank you for hosting this conversation Tim, it was wonderful speaking with you! I'm very excited at the prospect of educating a new audience on the relief that clinical hypnosis can provide. We've seen time, and time again that it can be a game-changer in a wide range of situations. As I always say to those who ask, what's the worst that could happen? Try it, you might like it!

    • @theanniewooding
      @theanniewooding 2 місяці тому

      Thank you for this video. I’ve wanted to watch about this subject for a while and it hit my timing right. To have the means with which to support one’s own health and the expertise gifted through an app where I have context is genuinely great. It’s exciting, and the honesty of a body of work for the greedy consumer (hiya 👋) doesn’t go unappreciated. Thank you for the open conversation.

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому +1

      @@theanniewooding Thank you Annie - I hope your foray into the world of hypnosis is productive and yields dividends - as it has done so for many others!

    • @theanniewooding
      @theanniewooding 2 місяці тому

      Thank you 🙇‍♀️

  • @TheBayAreaBackyardsBee
    @TheBayAreaBackyardsBee 2 місяці тому +10

    Thank you Tim for all you do. I live in a beautiful place wildcat canyon east bay & recently found your work. My husband took his life 8 years ago he was 34 I was 37. Now at 44 with your help I’m now realizing that’s not my life & never was post an 8 year nightmare. I’ve been listening to your work, tools & advice. Things, humans as well as insights around me are changing at a rapid rate for the betterment of myself. I really struggled with so much pain physical & mental… I’m now looking into renting my house out moving to Mexico or maybe Argentina because I can actually do whatever I want as I set that up by myself…amen & thank God for strength & willpower. I can’t thank you enough. Seneca has now become part of my daily life as well hypnosis, meditation, hiking, biking, dancing, I’ve also become an Airbnb Superhost by accident lol & many other things. Thank you for helping me heal myself 💕💫🧠🙏💯👁️

  • @PeppefromReveri
    @PeppefromReveri 2 місяці тому +3

    Loved watching Dr Spiegel chat with Tim, he really does drop pearls of wisdom in everyday life too! So awesome to see hypnosis reach a platform of this size.

  • @sunnyla2835
    @sunnyla2835 2 місяці тому +2

    EMDR helped me immensely with ❤traumatic intrusive memories, immensely, and Im forever grateful to that psychologist, who was also did hypnotherapy, which helped immensely with chronic migraines.

  • @somebodytookmyname1
    @somebodytookmyname1 2 місяці тому +2

    How I would love to meet Dr David Spiegel in real life. I appreciate the reflection on his past experiences, the time spent on myth, and factual neuroscience. The comparison on topics of medication and debilitating issues that are flipped on end through your work. Rewriting interpretation.. pain, regret, fear, trauma.. your work invites/guides people into a liberated space.
    Thanks for this wonderful conversation. I would LOVE this skill to unlock these mental barriers for others too

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for your kind words. I host free quarterly meetings online with our Reveri community. We have one coming up this Friday. I hope to see you there!

    • @somebodytookmyname1
      @somebodytookmyname1 2 місяці тому

      @@ReverihealthI’m there!! Thank you for extending the invitation

    • @somebodytookmyname1
      @somebodytookmyname1 2 місяці тому

      @@Reverihealth I’m having a hard time locating the meeting. Downloaded the app and checked your social media group but I’ve yet to find a meeting link or time for today 😬
      please advise!

  • @BeStillLittleTree
    @BeStillLittleTree 2 місяці тому

    30:04 After experiencing EMDR, this is one of the things I noticed that helped: my focus was on the thing I was watching while also noticing the sensations and thoughts. It's like it helped me get in that meditative state he mentioned earlier because I wasn't entirely able to focus on myself and so I couldn't follow my typical reactions to my internal experiences. I was finally able to experience them all the way through and realize that I didn't need to do anything about my emotions to be okay.

  • @Sebastian-pb9hm
    @Sebastian-pb9hm 2 місяці тому

    Incredible interview. I would love to read more books from Dr. Spiegel particularly dealing with grief within the clinical setting.

  • @JohnCragg-sj6zk
    @JohnCragg-sj6zk 2 місяці тому

    Honestly, this whole conversation was mesmerising. It's amazing what the brain can do and what you can achieve with hypnosis

  • @_john_ty
    @_john_ty 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely loved this conversation! Thank you both! One thing I’ve learned as a hypnotist, is that people who are more susceptible to PTSD (generally) are people who are better at visualizing and using their imagination…which means..they’re also easier to hypnotize! 🙏

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому

      Thank you John, very glad to hear you enjoyed the conversation!

  • @baay81
    @baay81 2 місяці тому

    Thanks a lot for sharing! I don't trust pain signals since I was 8 years old, so I love hearing stories about people controlling their pain perception with various means.

  • @seanwilson3330
    @seanwilson3330 2 місяці тому

    Good stuff. I have been doing hypnosis for over 10 years, and a lot of what he says lines up.

  • @Kili42
    @Kili42 2 місяці тому

    I feel lighter just having listened to this, definitely going to try Reveri. What an interesting insights. I especially loved how you could see Dr. Spiegel instantly turn "on" when Tim said he was game to try hypnosis, thousands of hours of experience that kicked in right there.

  • @sunnyla2835
    @sunnyla2835 2 місяці тому

    Thanks so much for Reverie. I do wish some of the sessions were longer, though❤

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому

      Thank you for your feedback - I will share this with our team!

  • @birthing4blokes46
    @birthing4blokes46 2 місяці тому

    This is fantasitic, thank you very much indeed.

  • @immovingtonewyork
    @immovingtonewyork 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for everything that you do Tim. Your podcast has so much wonderful advice. This has been one of my favourites. I was not sure about hypnosis before - a real skeptic - but I'm ready to try it. Meditation has not helped my overactive brain. I will give Dr Spiegel's advice a try. Reveri sounds like a good way to test this. Thank you again

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому +1

      I hope you enjoy your experience with the app! As noted in the above talk with Tim, meditation and hypnosis are quite different - hypnosis targets a particular problem, and can be 'turned on or off', whereas meditation helps achieve an overall sense of calm, peace and focus. Good luck!

  • @nda4591
    @nda4591 2 місяці тому

    Learned a lot from this conversation about hypnosis. What an interesting tool to explore and try to integrate into our life! Liked as well the subtle sense of humor, made from the usually informative and entertaining podcast a more entertaining one.

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому +1

      Glad to hear you found this conversation useful, Tim is truly a master interviewer!

  • @bhaveshkirdak456
    @bhaveshkirdak456 2 місяці тому +2

    Sir crazy podcast ❤

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому

      Thank you for tuning in - it was such a delight to speak with Tim.

  • @jeffkirk4761
    @jeffkirk4761 2 місяці тому

    While discussing TMS around the 38 minute mark Dr. Spiegal states “So we could tell whether they actually got the TMS or not. They couldn’t tell.” Am I to understand that the researchers knew before the analysis who had the TMS and then also judged whether or not it made a difference? If this is true is causes me to question everything else in this interview.

  • @umpitumili
    @umpitumili 2 місяці тому

    Thanks a lot, thus was super interesting.
    Apart from physical pain, would hypnosis also influence muscle fatigue with the result of improving the feeling and also muscle function?

  • @pvsk10
    @pvsk10 2 місяці тому

    I wonder how hypnosis compares to the highly altered states known as Jhanas in Buddhism induced through the development of high concentration.

  • @jizim8947
    @jizim8947 2 місяці тому

    I've had extreme social anxiety it's gotten out of hand. I barely left the house barely left my room in the last 4 years. You can never find anybody that does it and if you're lucky enough to find a good psychiatrist they're not accepting new patients.

    • @Reverihealth
      @Reverihealth 2 місяці тому

      This sounds extremely frustrating, sorry to hear about how debilitating your social anxiety has become. I recently had a young man reach out to share that self hypnosis helped him overcome much his social anxiety, to the point that he was able to leave his home, drive to other locations and even enter buildings, when previously this wasn't an option at all. I wish you all the best!

  • @swayson5208
    @swayson5208 Місяць тому

    Wish reverie wasnt so expensive!

  • @valerii-link
    @valerii-link 2 місяці тому

    If there is pain, there is a reason for it. The example of athletes is very good for understanding what happens over time when pain is 'filtered' (ignored) - they destroy their bodies by the age of 20 to 40, depending on the sport. Therefore, I don't recommend this method.

  • @debasmitabasu_456
    @debasmitabasu_456 2 місяці тому

    According to the video, powerful learning can be achieved through hypnosis.
    In the video, David Spiegel, a hypnotist discusses hypnosis and its applications in pain management, treating phobias and anxiety disorders. Here are some of the key points:
    Hypnosis is a state of focused attention and heightened suggestibility. People who are hypnotized are more receptive to suggestions made by the hypnotherapist.
    Hypnosis can be used to treat chronic pain. Hypnosis can help people focus away from their pain and reduce their perception of pain.
    Hypnosis can be used to treat phobias and anxiety disorders. Hypnotherapists can use hypnosis to help people confront their fears in a safe and controlled setting.
    Hypnosis can be used to improve athletic performance. Hypnosis can help athletes focus on their performance and improve their coordination.
    Hypnosis is a safe and effective treatment for a variety of conditions. Hypnosis is a complementary therapy that can be used in conjunction with traditional medical treatment.