I really appreciate your review. I got one for Valentine's Day from the wife. We took it to the range and put 200 rounds through it. I have to agree with you. It feels better than a p320, enjoy it more than any Glock I've ever shot. I own a couple of FN pistols and they may accumulate a bit of dust. Well done, Springfield. I am looking forward to seeing after Market grips and what not.
Heck yah man. You have a good wife it sounds like. I’m really surprised more people haven’t talked about the echelon around here. They must not have paid all the guntubers enough. Lol. It’s a freaken awesome pistol.
Good to see you back on video buddy, sorry to hear you ain’t been feeling well. I know the feeling. Summer allergies in Texas are kicking my butt. This gun seems to be getting good reviews. I just bought a Glock 43x for summer carry so my P365 X macro don’t rust. I haven’t shot this gun but i have heard it’s a steal at $600. One thing i will say about you that i enjoy, you shoot really well with irons and don’t shoot much red dot on video. I am in the process of taking my Green Dot off my Sig and just sticking to Irons. I don’t shoot dot that well and ain’t the best at zeroing them in to be honest. Sure hope you get to feeling better sir, i also hope to get my hands on one of these and give it a try. Seems like they made a winner with it.
I really appreciate that man. It’s definitely a great full size handgun. I had to do the same with my sig because of rust. I’m carrying my hellcat pro for the last few weeks. When holsters become more available I may carry this to be honest. Yah I’m not much of a dot fan myself. I think it’s something for new shooters to use and will probably taper off in a few years just like when all the hype was a laser. Now nobody has lasers on their gun.
@@livennick9 i had a $300 dollar gift card to academy sports here in Texas, so i threw in the extra $200 for a Glock 43X to carry and i highly doubt even at full price i would regret it. Again not to beat a dead horse, but while some UA-camrs argue Glock isn’t the best at anything. When i ask them what is a gun suppose to do? Look cool and work sometimes or go bang when you pull the trigger? So that said Glocks vanilla design don’t hurt my feelings. You make a great point about lasers, i havent seen one of those in 15 years that i can recall. Dots are great for those that use them well or find the benefit to them. But for me personally the few benefits turn into fighting all the cons, if that makes sense. So i just stick to high end irons. Trijicon mainly. Anyone that says you need a dot to shoot well from distance hasn’t been watching your videos. You said it yourself, you aren’t even a huge fan of the U shape irons and yet still with a new gun to learn and those sights you were burying shots from distance. Speaks to how well you shoot and maybe even a little at how well this gun is made. Thanks for the content and don’t forget there are bass out there wanting to be caught haha 🎣
@@jasonallen3189 thanks bud. Yah I need to edit my fishing video with the new tfo ultralights from this weekend and get it up. They are awesome. Ive always said if a person wants a glock to carry and wants it thin the 43x is the only way to go. They are awesome pistols. I like that there is no guessing with dots at distance don’t get me wrong but I don’t want one on a carry gun. Maybe a range toy but toggling back and forth between dot and irons isn’t fun for me. The main think I don’t like about dots is 1- they fog. Yes there is anti fog stuff out there you can coat it with once a week but I don’t want to. 2- high temps in a vehicle cause the battery to fail. Not the optic but the battery. What good is a battery powered optic without a battery. 3- it’s electric and everything electric fails at some point. 4- I’m faster with irons and when it boils down to it that’s all that matters is mass hits fast and accurate if need be.
@@livennick9 thought of you during this exchange with the wife. I never buy lottery tickets. Told her i was going to buy one and she said why are you feeling lucky today? I said sort of but not lucky in the sense i could get the 17th round in a Sig magazine without dislocating my thumb. She just kind of looked at me confused and said good luck. I am nearing 800 rounds with the original sig mags and still can not get in what they advertise.
Thank you man. It almost feels like a large hellcat. But then you start looking at it and start noticing all the additional features and everything and it blows my mind it’s the same price as the hellcat pro.
@@livennick9 The features and capacity packed into it around a ~600 dollar price is pretty nuts. Can't wait to see them come out with a compact model and maybe pair it up with my Hellcat Pro. Springfield has been making excellent handguns lately.
@@marvnation924 I definitely see it happening. The fcu is like the sig. You can swap frames so I figure a lot of companies will be making aftermarket frames for it of different sized. If they would make a 4” model I would be all over that the day it came out.
Another nice review! With the removable fire unit. If Springfield doesn’t. I hope some after market companies will make carry size slides and grips. So we can make custom compact and micro compact Echelons.
If it proves to be reliable, I do think it would be the best sub-$600 gun. I will say that these days you can get a TON of good 15-17rd guns for $260-$360 (CZP10F, APX1A1, IWI Masada, Arex Delta 2, SAR9, etc.). This just seems like so much more gun for the money compared to a G17, but the G17 does have the reputation it earned over the last 30 years with police and militaries. Looks good though. I'd probably spring for one if I weren't going down a 5.7 rabbit hole at the moment. :)
I went down that hole years ago myself. Good round for sure. Especially back then before they made it to where you could only get blue tips from FN. I had the p90 and original black 5.7. They were a blast.
@@livennick9 I've got a bunch of 23 and 30rd mags for my Ruger LC 5.7 Charger, which I plan to SBR...a friend has the Carbine, and I fell in love. The PSA mags work in it, and PSA has sales on their ROCK Pistol where you get a threaded barrel, optic cut and optic sights, and 10 mags for like $600. But I think S&W MP 57 pistol is just cool, with the gas system and it being so thin and flat-shooting. I'm also interested in their new MP22 magnum, though I hear the grip is a hair wider....but 31rds of 22 mag sounds would be a swarm of hornets coming in fast in a tight group. Here's my initial thoughts on it: ua-cam.com/video/myRCK6_lLh8/v-deo.html
Hey bro, glad you reviewed this one. Was wondering what your opinion on it would be. The medium frame module bit me. Gave me serious slide bite. They now have the large grip module and the beaver tail is supposed to be a lil longer, do you think the large frame would take away the chance of slide bite? Thanks man
Man it probably would but I can’t say for certain because everyone is different. I do know when I fire a glock 21 or 20 next to a 17 it feels like my hand sets a little lower on the 21 and 20 so my GUESS would be it should fix it. Hope this helps.
I see those sights as a basketball dropped into a round basketball net.Fits perfectly, Love them on my Hellcat also.
Great video!!!!
Thanks bud
I really appreciate your review. I got one for Valentine's Day from the wife. We took it to the range and put 200 rounds through it. I have to agree with you. It feels better than a p320, enjoy it more than any Glock I've ever shot. I own a couple of FN pistols and they may accumulate a bit of dust. Well done, Springfield. I am looking forward to seeing after Market grips and what not.
Heck yah man. You have a good wife it sounds like. I’m really surprised more people haven’t talked about the echelon around here. They must not have paid all the guntubers enough. Lol. It’s a freaken awesome pistol.
You sir an honest man! God bless you!
Excellent review my man! You are a great shot. I just ordered this pistol.. it checks all the boxes.
I really appreciate that bud. Yah it’s kind of the best of every pistol in one unit. I love it.
Good to see you back on video buddy, sorry to hear you ain’t been feeling well. I know the feeling. Summer allergies in Texas are kicking my butt. This gun seems to be getting good reviews. I just bought a Glock 43x for summer carry so my P365 X macro don’t rust. I haven’t shot this gun but i have heard it’s a steal at $600. One thing i will say about you that i enjoy, you shoot really well with irons and don’t shoot much red dot on video. I am in the process of taking my Green Dot off my Sig and just sticking to Irons. I don’t shoot dot that well and ain’t the best at zeroing them in to be honest. Sure hope you get to feeling better sir, i also hope to get my hands on one of these and give it a try. Seems like they made a winner with it.
I really appreciate that man. It’s definitely a great full size handgun. I had to do the same with my sig because of rust. I’m carrying my hellcat pro for the last few weeks. When holsters become more available I may carry this to be honest. Yah I’m not much of a dot fan myself. I think it’s something for new shooters to use and will probably taper off in a few years just like when all the hype was a laser. Now nobody has lasers on their gun.
@@livennick9 i had a $300 dollar gift card to academy sports here in Texas, so i threw in the extra $200 for a Glock 43X to carry and i highly doubt even at full price i would regret it. Again not to beat a dead horse, but while some UA-camrs argue Glock isn’t the best at anything. When i ask them what is a gun suppose to do? Look cool and work sometimes or go bang when you pull the trigger? So that said Glocks vanilla design don’t hurt my feelings. You make a great point about lasers, i havent seen one of those in 15 years that i can recall. Dots are great for those that use them well or find the benefit to them. But for me personally the few benefits turn into fighting all the cons, if that makes sense. So i just stick to high end irons. Trijicon mainly. Anyone that says you need a dot to shoot well from distance hasn’t been watching your videos. You said it yourself, you aren’t even a huge fan of the U shape irons and yet still with a new gun to learn and those sights you were burying shots from distance. Speaks to how well you shoot and maybe even a little at how well this gun is made. Thanks for the content and don’t forget there are bass out there wanting to be caught haha 🎣
@@jasonallen3189 thanks bud. Yah I need to edit my fishing video with the new tfo ultralights from this weekend and get it up. They are awesome. Ive always said if a person wants a glock to carry and wants it thin the 43x is the only way to go. They are awesome pistols. I like that there is no guessing with dots at distance don’t get me wrong but I don’t want one on a carry gun. Maybe a range toy but toggling back and forth between dot and irons isn’t fun for me. The main think I don’t like about dots is
1- they fog. Yes there is anti fog stuff out there you can coat it with once a week but I don’t want to.
2- high temps in a vehicle cause the battery to fail. Not the optic but the battery. What good is a battery powered optic without a battery.
3- it’s electric and everything electric fails at some point.
4- I’m faster with irons and when it boils down to it that’s all that matters is mass hits fast and accurate if need be.
@@livennick9 100% agree buddy.
@@livennick9 thought of you during this exchange with the wife. I never buy lottery tickets. Told her i was going to buy one and she said why are you feeling lucky today? I said sort of but not lucky in the sense i could get the 17th round in a Sig magazine without dislocating my thumb. She just kind of looked at me confused and said good luck. I am nearing 800 rounds with the original sig mags and still can not get in what they advertise.
People please give my good friend lots of love.He won’t steer you wrong
Wow! You got a lot of good to say about it, will have to check one out. Does seem like it was a well thought out design.
I like the Hellcat sights.
The sights are growing on me.
Thanks for your review and opinion. Just bought one. also putting on the tlr-8a G on it.
Heck yah man. You’re going to love it. They’re excellent
Fantastic review - I have seen many for this gun and yours is one of the very best!
I really appreciate that bud. Thanks for watching.
Hey there's your video you mentioned! That's a great shooter. It's like they supersized the Hellcat. Good review.
Thank you man. It almost feels like a large hellcat. But then you start looking at it and start noticing all the additional features and everything and it blows my mind it’s the same price as the hellcat pro.
@@livennick9 The features and capacity packed into it around a ~600 dollar price is pretty nuts. Can't wait to see them come out with a compact model and maybe pair it up with my Hellcat Pro. Springfield has been making excellent handguns lately.
@@marvnation924 I definitely see it happening. The fcu is like the sig. You can swap frames so I figure a lot of companies will be making aftermarket frames for it of different sized. If they would make a 4” model I would be all over that the day it came out.
You are a shooter for sure. Just picked this up the other day. Looks promising.
Thank you bud
Another nice review! With the removable fire unit. If Springfield doesn’t. I hope some after market companies will make carry size slides and grips. So we can make custom compact and micro compact Echelons.
Thanks man. Heck yah. I’m m hoping.
great video nick get felling better brother
Thanks man. I appreciate that.
You're a good shooter 😊👍. Im hoping that they release a g19 sized compact version.
Thank you bud. Yah. If they do I’m snagging one up for sure.
Kid cody John denver damn i thought i was the only one all over the place. I love your music and this gun and im black😂
😂. Thanks bud. Man I love all music.
I agree with you , I own one 👍🏻
If it proves to be reliable, I do think it would be the best sub-$600 gun. I will say that these days you can get a TON of good 15-17rd guns for $260-$360 (CZP10F, APX1A1, IWI Masada, Arex Delta 2, SAR9, etc.). This just seems like so much more gun for the money compared to a G17, but the G17 does have the reputation it earned over the last 30 years with police and militaries. Looks good though. I'd probably spring for one if I weren't going down a 5.7 rabbit hole at the moment. :)
I went down that hole years ago myself. Good round for sure. Especially back then before they made it to where you could only get blue tips from FN. I had the p90 and original black 5.7. They were a blast.
@@livennick9 I've got a bunch of 23 and 30rd mags for my Ruger LC 5.7 Charger, which I plan to SBR...a friend has the Carbine, and I fell in love. The PSA mags work in it, and PSA has sales on their ROCK Pistol where you get a threaded barrel, optic cut and optic sights, and 10 mags for like $600.
But I think S&W MP 57 pistol is just cool, with the gas system and it being so thin and flat-shooting. I'm also interested in their new MP22 magnum, though I hear the grip is a hair wider....but 31rds of 22 mag sounds would be a swarm of hornets coming in fast in a tight group.
Here's my initial thoughts on it: ua-cam.com/video/myRCK6_lLh8/v-deo.html
PS -- this is evi1joe, whatgorilla, joeflowers (I've been a subscriber back when you only had 200-300). I'm all about the fishing and shooting.
@@GunInsights joe flowers? Dang dude. I was wondering where you went brother. That’s awesome. I had no idea.
Hey bro, glad you reviewed this one. Was wondering what your opinion on it would be. The medium frame module bit me. Gave me serious slide bite. They now have the large grip module and the beaver tail is supposed to be a lil longer, do you think the large frame would take away the chance of slide bite? Thanks man
Man it probably would but I can’t say for certain because everyone is different. I do know when I fire a glock 21 or 20 next to a 17 it feels like my hand sets a little lower on the 21 and 20 so my GUESS would be it should fix it. Hope this helps.
@@livennick9 Thank you brother. It is def worth the try! I like the pistol enough to give it a try!
@@a.d.c7941 absolutely. It’s the best all around polymer pistol I’ve shot to date. Let me know how it goes.
@@livennick9 wow. That says a lot!! I for sure will!
How’s the grip angle, especially compared to a Glock, do you have to push the muzzle down?
You don’t have to angle down near as much as a glock. I’m my opinion. It is pretty spot on. Not 100% 1911 angle but pretty dang close.
Great gun and review like always. In Your opinion thats echelon is better than shadow system or any other glock platform?
Thanks bud. I was hoping you were ok. Yah in my opinion it’s better so far than any polymer pistol Nader a grand that I’ve shot.
@@livennick9 Thank You. Wen You put full range review?
@@donio8194 bout 2 weeks ago.
@@donio8194 right now the heat index here is 124 and has been insanely hot for about the last 10-12 days.
@@livennick9 I see. I was recently in Egypt and there was over 42 degrees celsius
LOVE MINE
JUST PICK ONE UP
Awesome. You’ll love it man.
😂👍🏾
Why dont you not like the u rear sight?
It’s just personal preference. But shooting more precise shots is harder for me with that setup.
Duuuuudddeee I go to the same range. I'm DTS TV on UA-cam
And I just got this gun up the day after release
@@newbierr5368 heck yah man. That’s awesome. I’ll have to check out your channel.
Clear your throat.
This is as good as it gets bud. I think they offer subtitles though. Thanks for watching.