The New Springfield Echelon
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- The new @SpringfieldArmoryInc Echelon. Boy has this gun gotten attention and deservedly so as it turns out. Today we take the Echelon to the range and then take a first look at this new duty 9mm. No, @SpringfieldArmoryInc did not send me this gun for the review and it wouldn't matter if they did because you will always get my honest opinion on anything through this channel. What are your thoughts on the new @SpringfieldArmoryInc Echelon? I look forward to your comments.
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When I was in Afghanistan and worked with the Croatians they where rocking the HS2000/XDs. My personal opinion this is everything that P320 should have been. Most of the GunTubers that received the Echelon, got the pistol with the Trijicon RMR, Surefire X300u weapon light, extra frame and the Safari holster. With each frame you buy (extra frames like Sig) you get the back straps with each frame. The optic mounting system is probably the best I have sent yet, the pin configuration you can use 30 different optics, the cut is deep enough to where you don’t need suppressor height sights, they co-witness. You will see they try to compare it to the Glock, but its no where near the Glock, It is more like the P320,HK, PDP. It is totally ambi, slide release, mag release. Very well made pistol. I traded my Glock 47 GEN 5 MOS for the Echelon. I run mine with a Trijicon RMR dual luminous optic, Streamlight TRL-1s. The under cutting makes the pistol feel comfortable to shoot. i would recommend this pistol. It’s a keeper. I still have my Glock 19 GEN 5, Sig P220, Beretta M9A3. For the price range of this pistol, it is well worth the money.
Well written summary on a very nice handgun. Thank you very much. I enjoyed reading your comment. Thank you for stopping by.
Springfield's XD-9 Mod 2 Sub Compact has the same rear cocking ears.Way before HK. Like that they added the front ones.
Thank you for the info and for watching.
Another outstanding review, thank you! I have not yet taken the opportunity to fire one, but they do seem to be selling well so far. On my last visit to my local, Range USA they told me they had already sold 4 of them that same morning. 👍👍
Yeah, they’re flying off the shelves. I really enjoyed it. Thank you for your kind words and as always, thank you very much for watching.
Looks like a nice gun. I’ve seen several videos on it and it seems like a good one. I may get one at some point, but I’ll hold off for now since it’s so new. I had an XDM Elite optic ready but I didn’t really care for it.
Good shooting, nice review as always.
Thank you very much for watching.
Love the video as always. When the images started leaking I was quite meh about this firearm, however after it released and I started watching some trusted reviewers, I started to turn around on it. I just brought mine home this evening and just in some dry fire practice and taking it apart, I like it so far. The COG removal/reinstall takes a bit of practice, it's not as involved as the APX but not quite as easy as the P320. Should get it to the range next week. I really hope Springfield (and third parties) embrace the modularity like Sig did, as I would love to see a G19 size (4" barrel, 15 round mags) option, which if done properly like Sig did, I should be able to buy the new grip and slide assembly and be on my merry way. I love the APX family but the modularity never really shined there, sure I can get different color grips but (unless something changed recently) slide assemblies and such were not available.
Thank you very much for your kind words. I would love to see a clock for the modular removable chassis, but I don’t see that in the cards. I’m with you regarding the APX family even though I love the original APX. Let me know how you like the Echelon after you shoot it. Thank you very much for stopping by.
Dude I love these reviews!!!
Thank you very much Mr. Adams. I really appreciate that!
Love the trigger on the Echelon, The safety feature is wider smoother and goes flush unlike the GLOCKs that pinch my trigger finger. Lots of Glock owners complain about the Glock trigger pinching the finger. I sandpaper the Glock trigger to smooth them out which makes them better.
The Echelon is an import from HS Croatia, just like the Helion and Hellcat.
Nice video. It's hyped a lot since the communication ban is lifted but it seems quite solid. HS produkt makes some quality stuff. I was able to try an H11 (Hellcat) but not enough as I'd like. I was surprised how manageable it was. The contour on the mag release seems like a issue for a high grip while at the same time they got the texture high up as well. The variability of the rds mounting is a huge +. Thanks for the work you put into this. I have to look up if I can make use of the grip modules over here.
You are very welcome. Thank you for stopping by.
I hated the Hellcat Pro. The only gun ive shot to hutmrt my hand shooting it. I love love the Springfield Prodigy and Ronin. Got the Echelon on the way.
Let me know what you think of it once you shoot the Echelon. My experience has been the same as yours. Thank you for stopping by.
Good review of in my opinion a superb pistol. I am a proud owner of the Echelon and have had nothing but good results from it. A very accurate gun so far
Good to hear that it’s been reliable for you. Thank you for the comment and for taking the time to stop by.
I’m done with another polymer gun , I’m back to steel and revolvers and 1911s
I'm with you!
Yeah technology sucks, I’m going back to rocks and sticks…
Wait until the new grip modules hit and they start offering different styles like compact etc.
I hop aftermarket offers filler plates for optic. Genius design but my ocd can’t stand the gaps.
Have you mentioned this to your therapist?
I had a Springfield EMP that came with fixed sights. It required a 6 o’clock hold, which I believe the manual called “combat hold”. The problem I had was figuring out how much low to hold at different distances. I hated it. Changed sights to Dawson.
Yeah, I was not a big fan of the sites. Haven’t liked them since they first showed up on the Hellcat. Thanks for watching!
Six o’clock hold
Love my new Echelon!
I’m curious. What do you like about it? Thank you very much for stopping by.
Love the modular design, vis optic system, capacity, trench cuts, texture, ambidextrous mag release, mid night sight, under cuts, low bore axis. What don’t I like about this pistol? Lol
I got one. Get one.
Great video. Frequent viewer of your channel. I can attest to your observations on the feel of the Hellcat and Hellcat Pro. They both were very square and not very comfortable to shoot due to the shape of the grip. But the Echelon is more rounded and fits in my hand. The other issue I had with the Hellcat series is failure to lock open on the last round due to my grip and the placement of the slide release. Not a problem with the Echelon. My vote is for the Echelon.
I appreciate it very much that you watch my videos. Thank you. I had the same issues with the Hellcat that you mention. Constant failure to lock open. But I think they did a very good job with the Echelon. Cheers!
Glock has me covered when it comes to polymer guns. It's not that Glock is the end all; it's just that I'm already heavily invested in their products. I've been shooting Glock pistols since the 1980's, so I'm pretty proficient in their use. I have a lot invested in barrels, sights, triggers, guide rods, holsters, controls and magazines. I'm so satisfied with my Glocks, as outfitted, I have never felt the need to jump on the Staccato or Prodigy bandwagons. As self-defense tools, those guns don't do anything my Glock pistols can't do. The same goes for the Echelon.
I completely understand that. Thank you very much for stopping by.
Springfield
Great review and helped me make a wonderful choice for purchase.
You are most welcome. I’m glad you’re happy with it and thank you so much for stopping by.
Any thoughts on the differences between this and the PDP?
No question - I would take the PDP Pro SD with the recoil spring and guide rod from ZR Tactical Solutions.
Echelon is modular…no optic plates needed …and trigger is close to PDP trigger…echelon is 2023 pistol of the year!
Never mind the Exhelon, I’ll take the Daytona!😂
I had a chance to shoot the Echelon. It's a decent firearm, but not for me. The slide features are ok, but I hate the grip, and the trigger is so, so for me. Just me, I guess. I better be careful saying that. Companies have been getting offended these days when you tell the truth.
I hear ya. As I mentioned in the video, I said I didn’t like the original Hellcat and Springfield put me on the blacklist. As always, thank you very much for watching.
It has the best grip I've ever felt on a polymer, and most agree it has one of the best triggers in its class.
If you didn't like the u sights then why didn't you buy the 3 dot???
Because that’s all there was available locally.
Hellcat the gun i was glad to get rid off even at a big loss.
I love my Hellcat's. I have dozens and dozens of pistols, Hellcat Pro is my daily carry. FOR ME, It has the best grip, best trigger, best sights of all others. I look forward to Echelon in combat size like the G19. I will buy 2 of the Compact models when released.
@@Asidebar Wish i had known you like the hellcat so much, I could have sold it to you at reasonable cost it had extra mags also ;-) I also have many guns , including XDM Elite, And i carry sig P365X. much much more accurate and better gun than cat. I hated the hellcat. so inaccurate and had to be sent back for repair after only two or three dozen shots. each to his own as they say.
I have not really seen anything out of this pistol that warrants the MSRP.🤷♂ I am a fan, and do in fact own 2 Springfield Armory pistols, and the Hellcat is my EDC. But there is no need for another striker fired polymer 9mm in my house. They will have to come out with an option that is compact in nature as the Hellcat, but come on Springfield, the only thing I see wrong with the Hellcat is the lack of grip options...🤷♂ The Hellcat feels good in your hand, until you squeeze the trigger, and then it is a little B!@#.😯 And to those on blood thinners, get yourself some gloves.👍Unless you like purple hands.🤷♂
Oh yeah, your question... on the name alone I would chose the Springfield over Glock every time. I am not a Glock fan, got nothing against Glock, they are popular for a reason, but I have yet to pick one up that did not feel like a turd in my hand, and they are by no means the only ones to fit this description. But I've never picked up a Springfield and thought that, it is what it is.🤷♂
MSRP is pretty good compared to other optics, ready pistols. And I don’t have any issues with being on blood thinners, but it does start to bug your finger after a couple hundred rounds.
@@mike34744 I paid less for the Hellcat OSP and XDMe Compact 10 mm, both are Optics ready and were sub $550... I don't see a reason to upgrade to this version, I'm hoping they release a compact version in the future. Thanks👍
I don't agree with your comments on the Hellcat having square feel on grip. It's rounded too square edge at all.
And that’s fine. We all like different things and our hands feel product differently. There have been many comments on my Hellcat videos agreeing with my comment on the grip. That’s what’s great - we all like different things and we have so many choices today. Thank you very much for watching!
Is the grip angle the same as the glock (22 degrees)?
My understanding is that is the same group angle as a 1911. Thank you very much for watching.
Handling one, it felt in between a Glock and 1911 to me, so like a S&W M&P.
great thank you! just so it wasn’t a glock angled grip
18 degrees
It’s just you they ghost every content creators with small subscribers 🤷🏽♂️
I have thought about that, but I’ve seen many small channels receiving Guns from Springfield for review. Some of the channels I’ve seen have less than 2000 subscribers and they are on Springfield distribution list. So who knows. Thank you very much for watching.
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You screwed up your chance to get free guns smh lol. 😂
😂😂😂 so funny.
@@MDpolo so dumb
Sorry Shadow Systems is still the best and most thought out gun.
As a MR920 combat, and XR920 Elite owner I agree. That said I bought a Echelon too and can't wait to shoot it.
Not for me!
Oh boy, a Gen 3 Glock.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus is it just a gen 3? I know the answer and so do you.
@@kentoncarter5613 Of course it's not "Just" a Gen 3 Glock. It's an OVERPRICED Gen 3 Glock.