What is the Impact of High vs Low Drop Footwear? | Science Friday
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2021
- We take to our recent podcast for this week's Science Friday to talk about High vs. Low Drop footwear and it's impact on our legs. Part of our full podcast discussion from this week which features a review of the Saucony Endorphin Pro+.
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This makes sense. I was rehabbing last summer for Achilles tendinosis, and on my return to running I bought a pair of Brooks Ghosts (12mm offset) thinking it would be less stress on the tendon. I was wrong! They killed me. I’m a mid foot striker and supinate. 4-8mm drop works for me.
Hey, thanks for this
Great to be given the sort of information that allows an informed choice. Also interesting of itself. 👍😊
wonderful material!!
this conversation I feel needs to heppen morr often.
I have the Adidas Adizero 2 and found it scary running down hill because of the high heel drop and the rocker. only some shoes affect my achilles and this video was very insightful.
I got a lot of ankle pain so someone suggested a higher heel drop. I took their advice and feel better. I have the brooks adrenaline gts 21. My entire route is 3 miles of up and down hills so it's been hard to find a sweet spot.
This video is awesome
i find 6mm - 8mm drop shoes to be the most comfortable.
i tried out 10mm - 12mm shoes a few times based on popular recommendations (pegasus 39, brooks ghost) and each time they gave me achilles and calf pain (...which seems counterintuitive) within the first couple of times using. resolved when switched back to old shoes.
High Drop caused my calf injury (several times) runner downhill (New Balance 880 & Cloudflyer) ... Never had a calf injury in 5 mm drop.
Possibly due to muscle imbalances and weakness "up-the-chain" and form issues that the shoe drop may exaggerate.
same here
Excuse my ignorance, would there be any correlation of ideal drop to pronation type? (i.e. overpronator) i used several 8-10mm drop shoes which “coincidentally” made me feel less comfortable(not painful) vs my lower drop shoes which allowed me to go the distance or maintain pace
The issue can be too much running also. If your running say 4 days a week every week cool. However every 5 to 6 weeks it may make sense to have a week you only one 3 or 2 days to give your legs sufficient rest then get back to your regular program.
what would be more useful than a generic mm, would be the actual angle of the incline, for each length size. because obviously 5 mm over a size 6 is much steeper than a 5 mm over a size 14.Obviously zero is zero but aside from zero, it would be more useful to know an actual angle of slope.
There's a lot of confusion online in regards to whether support shoes or zero drop shoes are better for people with FAI. I'm still struggling in understanding what's better.
Could you please make a short video?
Good info ty, btw is that Toby Maguire in the bottom screen?
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Question I have a pair of brooks ghost which are 12 mm heel toe drop. I had a knee replacement which seems to have changed things for me and causing issues finding the right shoes. Each time I wear Brooks i I feel the it band rub at side of my knee. When I go back to my lower stack 1 1/4 inch Skechers the discomfort is gone. I do have a high arch. What do you recommend as far as stack height and heel to toe size. Should I be aiming for a mid heel to toe with smaller stack?
When you use the term stability shoe, are you specifically referring to shoes for over pronation? What type of shoe is best to look at for supination? In your stability shoe guide, there is a picture of the Asics Gel Kayano which looks like a shoe for supinators because of the extra gel material on the lateral side of the shoe, but Asics lists this shoe as a stability shoe for over pronation. I'm getting a little confused and overwhelmed at the choices of shoes and don't want to make a mistake in buying the wrong shoe as I am getting back into running again. Thanks for any help!
Generally speaking any shoe that is described as 'neutral' is what you would aim for- for a start anyway.
You have to remember that supination and pronation are terms that actually describe normal movement . A true 'supinator' would roll onto the lateral aspect of their foot and potentially sprain their ankle (laterally). So, I assume you mean you 'under-pronate' since a certain amount of pronation is normal from heel-strike through to mid-stance.
The construction of the shoe overall, from last to geometry to midsole density, stiffness, upper construction, etc all affect how a shoe functions. The Kayano can't be summarised by the fact that it has gel in the lateral aspect, as there are too many other aspects to consider.
It can be a little difficult to select shoes if you've had problems in the past. Depending on where you are, it's probably a good idea to go see someone with experience (and no vested interest in what to sell you!).
The counter to that is there's some evidence that simply trying on a bunch of shoes and going with the one that feels best is as good as anything (see my first sentence). Hopefully I'm not contradicting what the good Drs will say!
@@glyndonwakeman7420 That was great help, thanks so much.
So what’s the preferred drop for a fore foot striker in theory guys?
in my opinion, 0mm drop
@matt, is this why my 2 most comfortable CP shoes, the Hoka Carbon X2 and Endorphin Pro 1&2 have different results? The Carbon X2 is so smooth and comfortable, but I am beat up so bad the next day. A friend noticed my left heel bends in just standing and walking in them. We checked the same thing in the E-Pro 1, and the heel doesn't cave in. I'm more and more a midfoot and forefoot striker since coming back from PTTD, but the CX2 still beats me up next day.
That's ok, I think I answered my question. I have the same issue in the Alpha Fly vs. E-Pro 3 and Vapor Fly. interestingly enough, do NOT have this issue with Kinvara and Shift though.
I think the drop is pointless, and the real issue is toe spring and roll guidance. There's an annoying trend towards inward rolling pigeon toed shoes with rocker heels, and you feel like you're falling forward because you're on a big stupid rocker platform.
I'm a runner and a latin dancer and own 85mm "drop" tango heels. I literally cannot feel what other runners are whining about. Anything under 50mm is "whatever".
That is torture for your feet!
It's clear these guys know what they're talking about, but none of this is all that complicated. Get a few pair of shoes that are comfortable and rotate through them. Don't overthink any of this. Just run.