JP has directly said Jesus Christ is God, and took the sins of the world on himself as a sacrifice for our salvation. If you judge his intent or mind then thats on you.
What human being understands everything? Consciousness is subjective not factual. Your definition of consciousness lacked substantive meaning. The things I hear Jordan Peterson talk about is very logical and practical. For example he gives the advice for people to “clean their rooms.” This is a very logical & practical start to fixing/organizing your life. Moreover your premise is misleading, but I’m sure you got a lot of click bait from Peterson lovers!
Broh, ... you can say anything about JP. He is a good man and even if he has flaws,we all have. He will find the way ,if he is looking for it. Pray for each other.
@@the_war_within I would be honored! How can we get in touch? My credentials below Masters in human performance Bachelor in sport science - intern with Houston Astros Postural breathing certified Yoga instructor Strength and conditioning certified
This reminds me of that first therapy scene in Anger Management with Adam Sandler and Jack Nicholson. “Please tell us who you are.” “Sure, well I’m a pretty easy going guy. Not a very angry person” “You’re describing your personality. Please just tell us who you are” 😂
Are you saying that Perterson is drenched in his own intellect that he can’t see past it? He certainly has a way of missing the point of most truth in Scripture.
Rene Descartes is the one guy that got me so wrapped up in my thinking mind that I let 20 years of my life be consumed by it....including my multi-year binging of Peterson that did not help, but offered the premise of helpfulness. Angelo Dilulo and Michael Singer helped free me with their pointers. Still working on it though.
In fairness, this is just actually a small part of a chapter in his book. I can see why so many are to quick to judge him out of ignorance. They haven’t the privilege of reading the chapters before the one he’s referencing here on top of it being a very deep topic the average person wouldn’t understand.
I've never looked to him for spiritual instruction, and he himself has said he hasn't been a person of faith very long or with much study. His political and social analyses are on point, but that's not a qualification for explaining scripture or faith.
Cam you make a video of how to have personal intimate time with Jesus/Holy Spirit and how just having a relationship with Jesus can help you be a better Christian than you just trying to obey the commandments of your own will
* This gentleman is a natural born teacher, and fun to listen to at times. * Having said that, his succinct defining of consciousness lacks the Holy Spirit quickening to coherently & succinctly direct us directly to Jesus... * The neutral third party perspective we are to have is that of our spiritman in Christ observing our soul as she navigates her external relationships & circumstances & her internal dialogue & imaginations... In other words, the "working out" of our own soul's "salvation" (Liberation)is the matter of our soul learning to ONLY look to Christ Jesus who already indwells us on a moment by moment basis... * Only the presence of Jesus transforms to completion, and "practicing conscious awareness of Christ Jesus' presence within our soul" offers our soul the experiential day to day growth curve of coming to "know" (intimate grafting union) Jesus Himself... * Our spiritman in Christ is our inner "husband", and our inner "woman"/"wife" is our soul. Our soul is called to choose yoking herself unto Christ Jesus like two livestock yoked together pulling a plow along the narrow path across the valley of the shadow of death-to-self... This is the "repentant abiding Life" of walking hand in hand with Jesus, literally, and in doing that our soul recognizes how it distorts the use of the talents God has given her in service of our fallen self nature, causing our soul to come to the place of "cherishing" her weaknesses & shortcomings that Jesus is lovingly revealing to her, until she one day is fully submitted by her own choice to the resurrected Life of Christ Jesus who indwells her... * This is how Jesus grafts His selfless humility & power unto our soul... It is the full bridal-ing process of our inner "wife"/"woman" learning how to "revere" & "submit" to our inner "husband"/Spirit'man' in Christ, and once the labor pangs of doing this have run their course to completion, the ManChild is born into the earth through the exclusively unique soul of the Christian... It is the manifestation of Christ Jesus in the flesh. * * * The "issue" Christians have to contend with isn't so much our "sinning ways" & "procrastinating ways", it is instead the fact that our spiritual nature is Not God's spiritual nature... Our soul is called to die to being the "helpmate" of the Adamic/self/fallen human nature that she was created from within the essence of... But it is a process filled with suffering, because the inclination & stubborn commitment to serve God from out of our soul's own planning & laboring is "baked" into our soul, so to speak. * Thank you for the room to share with you, and I hope this is meat to chew on for you all the rest of your days. - Shalom PS: - Jesus only practiced conscious awareness of our Heavenly Father's presence within His soul while He was on earth. We are singularly called to only look to Jesus in the same fashion. - Rules of thumb: The Holy Spirit points people to Jesus & Jesus points people to our Heavenly Father. "Jesus, the man who did everything, did nothing". Jesus' Faith wasn't in what He would do, it was in what our Heavenly Father would do. By virtue of that, our Living Hope & Faith on a moment to moment basis is ideally His Faith in our Heavenly Father... We are called to Exchange our life for His resurrected Life, and as we abide in Him, we learn to Live more & more From His resurrected Life, and less & less from our own life. Edit in: * Yield to Jesus the idea of listening to the playlist titled "Basic Seminar" on the "Michael Wells Abiding Life Ministries International" UA-cam channel. After that, as led, revisit the playlist and even watch a few other playlists they have posted with Wells talking. (Don't allow your intellect to be offended by the term "basic seminar")... Just listen to it in Jesus' presence as though you are a young child (that is how we ought to read Scripture etc anyways). - Finally, I recommend listening to a good chunk of Brother Lawrence's little book "The Practice of the Presence of God". Don't be discouraged by how in love Lawrence was with Jesus, that, I'm sure, took decades to blossom within his soul. Having said that, the book does a great job at conveying the reality of how Christ Jesus within us actually transforms our life unto an unceasing prayer if we learn to live the abiding Life.
What a great question! I’ll try to keep my response succinct. My explanation is just the tip of the iceberg. Q1: think of intimate time with Jesus just like you would with any other friend. Talk to him pray to him read about him talk to friends about him ask questions about him, etc. as for the Holy Spirit what I do is, I usually pray before I read anything in the Bible, asking for the Holy Spirit to help me understand what I’m reading and how I can apply it in my life. To be my guide in short. I also spend time trying to listen to the Holy Spirit as well. It takes some practice to meditate on that because it seems like I have 1 million voices going on in my head with two radio stations but quieting the mind really does help what I would say most importantly is to memorize scripture so you know it’s the Holy Spirit talking to you. I do believe the language of the Holy Spirit is scripture and when he’s trying to talk to you or tell you something he’s gonna use scripture that pops up into your head that you stored in your heart. Q2: there’s so much to unpack from this question and it’s taken me literally years to even understand the beginning of this. I used to focus only on me and my sin to where I should have focused on Jesus and how he erased my sin, and he did that before I was even born he died for me, knowing every sin that I would ever do even in the future, and he still died for me. It’s not about being good enough. It’s about how God the father sees you and your relationship with him in the sense of are you his enemy or are you his son? …and how that works is remembering that you have Jesus‘s cloak of righteousness on you and God doesn’t see your sin if you truly believe that Jesus is your savior. God sees you as righteous because what Jesus has done has made you righteous if you accept his free gift of salvation. God‘s gonna continue to work and change you into the image of his son. It’s called sanctification and it’s gonna take the rest of your physical life on earth and it’s gonna stink sometimes. It’s uncomfortable sometimes it’s called tension between your flesh and your spirit. It’s that way because you want to do good, but you can’t in your own power.
@@kennypowers17I really appreciate your answer it is gracefully articulated as well. I had posted this answer to him but believe it got erased, however it was on my clipboard so I'm pasting it here to share with you... Indeed, there is so much more to this than our minds conceive. --------------- * His succinct definition of consciousness lacks the Holy Spirit quickening to coherently & succinctly direct us directly to Jesus... * The neutral third party perspective we are to have is that of our spiritman in Christ observing our soul as she navigates her external relationships & circumstances and her internal dialogue & imaginations... In other words, the "working out" of our own soul's "salvation" (Liberation)is the matter of our soul learning to ONLY look to Christ Jesus who already indwells us on a moment by moment basis... * Only the presence of Jesus transforms to completion, and "practicing conscious awareness of Christ Jesus' presence within our soul" offers our soul the experiential day to day growth curve of coming to "know" (intimate grafting union) Jesus Himself... * Our spiritman in Christ is our inner "husband", and our inner "woman"/"wife" is our soul. Our soul is called to choose yoking herself unto Christ Jesus like two livestock yoked together pulling a plow along the narrow path across the valley of the shadow of death-to-self... This is the "repentant abiding Life" of walking hand in hand with Jesus, literally, and in doing that our soul recognizes how it distorts the use of the talents God has given her in service of our fallen self nature, causing our soul to come to the place of "cherishing" her weaknesses & shortcomings (e.g. struggle with a particular 'sin') that Jesus is simultaneously, and lovingly, revealing to her, until she one day is fully submitted by her own choice to the resurrected Life of Christ Jesus who indwells her... * This is how Jesus grafts His selfless humility & power unto our soul... It is the full bridal-ing process of our inner "wife"/"woman" learning how to "revere" & "submit" to our inner "husband"/Spirit'man' in Christ, and once the labor pangs of doing this have run their course to completion, the ManChild is born into the earth through the exclusively unique soul of the Christian... It is the manifestation of Christ Jesus in the flesh. * * * The "issue" Christians have to contend with isn't so much our "sinning ways" & "procrastinating ways", it is instead the fact that our spiritual nature is Not God's spiritual nature... Our soul is called to die to being the "helpmate" of the Adamic/self/fallen human nature that she was created from within the essence of... But it is a process filled with suffering, because the inclination & stubborn commitment to serve God from out of our soul's own planning & laboring is "baked" into our soul, so to speak. * Thank you for the room to share with you, and I hope this is meat to chew on for you all the rest of your days. - Shalom PS: - Jesus only practiced conscious awareness of our Heavenly Father's presence within His soul while He was on earth. We are singularly called to only look to Jesus in the same fashion. - Rules of thumb: The Holy Spirit points people to Jesus & Jesus points people to our Heavenly Father. "Jesus, the man who did everything, did nothing". Jesus' Faith wasn't in what He would do, it was in what our Heavenly Father would do. By virtue of that, our Living Hope & Faith on a moment to moment basis is ideally His Faith in our Heavenly Father... We are called to Exchange our life for His resurrected Life, and as we abide in Him, we learn to Live more & more From His resurrected Life, and less & less from our own life. Edit in: * Yield to Jesus the idea of listening to the playlist titled "Basic Seminar" on the "Michael Wells Abiding Life Ministries International" UA-cam channel. After that, as led, revisit the playlist and even watch a few other playlists they have posted with Wells talking. (Don't allow your intellect to be offended by the term "basic seminar")... Just listen to it in Jesus' presence as though you are a young child (that is how we ought to read Scripture etc anyways). - Finally, I recommend listening to a good chunk of Brother Lawrence's little book "The Practice of the Presence of God". Don't be discouraged by how in love Lawrence was with Jesus, that, I'm sure, took decades to blossom within his soul. Having said that, the book does a great job at conveying the reality of how Christ Jesus within us actually transforms our life unto an unceasing prayer if we learn to live the abiding Life. - Shalom
This is an interesting and refreshing concept. I’ve always referred to my thinking brain and my body in the “third person”, as something I’m not, by definition, tethered to.. but rather I have autonomous existence to in *addition* to these things. We are not our thoughts and we are not our bodies- this is actually great news. The Word of God is like a two-edged sword.. we can separate these things and live higher with the Most High.
So basically ur saying Jordan Peterson is in a constant state of observing his thoughts and experiences that he doesnt even get to actually experience things in real life? Makes sense why he hasnt fully committed to Jesus Christ. Bro is too busy observing Jesus that he will never have an actual experience with Jesus.
Hate is not what's being presented, far from it, it's out of Love, that those who are in Christ, desire to reveal TRUTH or Shinning the LIGHT upon a darkness, in JP's case, bro Mike is shinning the light of God upon someone who is still very 'Worldly', who hasn't truly grasp the Truth that is God.....
I'd argue it is really just a way to clickbait people. There's many layers of the matrix that even Michael doesn't know about. It would be akin to me saying "War Within talks about leaving the matrix while still having his birth certificate bond in place". Has he reclaimed his estate? I doubt it. Michael has a bit of a niche audience, and is therefore having to be creative in drawing a bigger net. My wife and I own a Holistic Health practice where we often do Inner Healing and Deliverance. Most Christians are so religiously programmed they think herbs and frequencies are demonic, when God created them. So yeah, I understand his struggle.
@@T4nkcommander God created sex too, doesn’t mean it’s good when two unmarried people have it. Gonna need to expand on your business and practices because it kinda sounds new age. Not judging or assuming, but raises questions.
@@Rc-tb9uy meh - that's kind of proving my point. The clients we have - most from satanic ritual abuse backgrounds - understand that the enemy only copies what was made. It sounds new age because the church has completely failed to steward the knowledge. But ultimately, there are two sources to choose from. Partner with the Most High or His enemies, but He created the waveform equation and every wave that makes up our being. It is comical, really, how everyone will claim to understand modern physics and get continually reject most of its precepts as "new age".
This video was filmed 2 years ago. I'm reposting it from my TikTok, which has 220,000 followers. I'm already famous. I don't need or want the attention. Want to try a different hypothesis perhaps?
Brilliant, my Brother “Escaping the matrix to come back kicking ass” is one of the most incredible definitions I came across so far, thanks for sharing
I find sharing, and reach are inversely related. A question to answer would be: "How do you reach the maximum amount of people, whilst still holding onto your resolve?".
Let me guess... Butt hurt atheist who needs some "I'm a good person" validation points, so you can top off your virtue signaling credit account, so you can use faux-virtue as a currency to pay off your con-science, so it will shut up for a minute and you can go back to watching [k]orn in peace?
Nah Jordan changes and has moodswings, i can clearly see when he is bring nasty and sarcastic and if he is the softer Jordan, i can even tell through the face. Its a weird ability i suppose. Yes he knows a lot, but he has not been through all that he has learned…………think about that. Knowledge is different, yes we can all attain it, wisdom however is not just the action of applying that knowledge but also mastering it, meaning……….how many tries does it take to be successful as something? Like riding a bike? Or walking as a baby? It takes a while to master things, so for jordan to know everything as you claim…….i have to disagree, just because he wirks with broken people a lot does not mean he actually has wisdom regarding that……yes you gain insight/knowledge from that HOWEVER wisdom only comes from when you yourself have gone through the experience……and not just once…….but multiple times over and over until you gain something positive from it………so fir instance, how many divorces has he had? None? Yeah but he sees it everyday………my friend…….seeing someone ride a bike everyday is not going to help you be able to ride a bike if you dont know how…….you get it? So please………people should stop thinking themselves experts just because they hang around others, just observing and advising them what they were told to say and do……..no…….a REAL EXPERT (and there are 1% of them on earth) is someone who has actual wisdom gained through their own multiple failures and now they can help others to see light at end of tunnel because they know how to get there………….lets stop worshipping people and be thankful for the true experts who were given their wisdom from God to help others
How can you be so confident about someone else’s understanding of the matter. You have no knowledge of his experience. Just using his name for the views. Not very Christian. You can’t tell me that there was Jesus behind while you were recording this self serving nonsense.
This is awkward. My video is a critique of "understanding" and "knowledge" itself. Jordan Peterson has knowledge and understanding. My point is that logic and reason itself is a limiting memetic prison and there is a realm of wisdom outside of knowledge that JP is yet to ascend to.
Man as much as I appreciate ‘Christian’ content creators, the titles used are VERY unattractive!! It’s very clickbaitey! Since when did Christian’s conform to the norm of anything secular, why not use titles that are less….dare I say derogatory. “The problem with Jordan Peterson” is so cringey and leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. I actually disregarded your message of the video(literally didn’t pay any attention to what you said) and chose to interact via this comment, I couldn’t get past the title. What about something like, “My commentary on Jordan Peterson”. Also not just this video title, but a plethora of Christian content creators on UA-cam use the worst video titles and thumbnails, all for the sake of what…..clicks and interactions? Thought we could hold ourselves to higher standards than that. Best regards, Aaron.
@@yellowballoon4143Yes he does, but to just outright say 'The problem with' especially regarding someone, is a pretty harsh critique and sets the president for the conversation, and for me, it's a somewhat a closed conversation infact it's not even a conversation rather a statement. Hence why I said, a title like 'My commentary on' that way you are able to offer your perspective on a subject or person and have the listener or viewer chime in and thus a.....conversation can begin.
So... let me get this straight. Your comment is literally longer than your video watch time? Why should anyone care about your opinion about a video you didn't watch?
Can you also make a video of how to hear God like how to pray and actually hear what He has to say, I feel like I struggle with prayer , I've been having a love/hate/resentment relationship with God and I don't know what to do
I've heard that he speaks to us through his Word. Be in your bible every day. This is how we get to know God, in his Word. Most of us spend more time on everything else but God. We need to make reading and praying our #1 priority because once we are done here, we'll have eternity with Him. So we have to work on that relationship constantly. Doing that will make our time here better too. Hope that helps.
It’s hard to listen to anyone who doesn’t know what Illuminati symbolism is. Keep standing there with your triangle hands. Tells me all I need to know.
Yup. Jordan is breaking that off faster, even if he doesn't even realize it. Kinda defeats the point of this video, if Jordan is detaching from the Matrix while Michael doesn't even sense some parts of it.
@@the_war_within if I had photog mem I think my brain would get too crowded...😮 ...unless as is maybe my brain will get unlocked in heaven(seriously scary)
@@the_war_within….and that’s just the beginning. You didn’t even list the books you’ve read. You’re wasting carbs feeding the trolls, brother. Instead think of the following: 1. "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" - Matthew 5:10 2. "If you suffer for doing good and endure it patiently, this is commendable before God" - 1 Peter 2:20
I started to watch, i say started because i couldn't finish the first episode, his lecture called Genesis which is found on Daily Wire. I had to stop it after drugging through an hour of it. He hadn't even gotten to Genesis yet and I knew he was lost and not a believer of the gospel. Now to see you come out and say basically what i was thinking confirms it for me. I like him don't get me wrong. He has great things to say, but he is not a believer. He is trying to hard to rationalize Jesus and he's missing the whole thing. Its truly sad
I'm a friend of our Lord Jesus and also appointed to be a teacher of the Gospel, I dunno how to arrive there but you really inspire me in my walk and dreams to be one of the mouthpieces of Jesus in this generation
Meditation has its place however id say that is spiritual bypassing and it will cause issues. Take no thought as Christ said and watchfulness because you never know at what hour the master will return to the house. I think that echart is irresponsible it’s dangerous.
While I agree with the concept of what you're saying, I think the simpler way to put it would be. The waterfall represents the matrix, though our escape from The matrix isn't one that is easily accomplished. My analogous reasoning for this, is because all of these thoughts, ideas, principles, concepts of who we are are noise and distractions. The example I give is that of the old record player. If you listen to the sound of the music your mind would have to turn off the hiss the pop the sound that is not the music. By tuning out these distractions you can enjoy the sound and honestly it's even better than the digital. The digital doesn't require you to do any work to enjoy the music. Digital is like "seeing" analog is more akin to "feeling". When you listen to those old records on a record player with all of the extra noise your brain is activated and trying to hear the music more than the noise. That is the key to leaving The matrix to hear the music more than we hear the noise.
I don't think this scripture applies to Jordan: Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:7. My impression of Jordan is he is a gateway for intellectuals to find Jesus. He opens the door that they would never open otherwise to point them to Christ. It still has to be their decision to pursue what Jordan shows; he gives evidence that Jesus is who He said He is. If Jordan hasn't made a profession of faith publicly perhaps it's by design.... Just something to consider.
It sounds like what you’re saying is that Peterson doesn’t understand every person’s subjective, “lived experience” as many new age-y types of thinking would describe it. I think Peterson acknowledges that these different subjective experiences exist, but he believes our experience as an individual shouldn’t be focused on as much because it’s typically not something we can control very well as most of it is in the past and a good part of it is circumstantial. I believe he focuses more on truth and learning things that we might not inherently know as a means to mitigate the chaos of life that comes through these different subjective experiences. So it’s not that he doesn’t understand them, it’s that he doesn’t focus on them because when you’re speaking to thousands of people, you can’t address every single person’s individual experiences at once.
You are right, but where you are wrong is to asume that people who listen to Peterson don’t know this, people are not as dumb as they come of, most understand what you are expressing intuitively.
Dr. Cocchini, I have a question if you have time: Is part of faith the recognition and acknowledgment of the matrix that Jesus worked outside of from within? And is “true” faith the acknowledgment of that matrix and the ability to do his works through Jesus in that recognition. Grace by Faith for Works kinda thing? Or simply the joining of our consciousness with His in that recognition? Thanks for the red pill Doc. The prescription of life in Him.
Been trying to step outside of my selfish ego dome of embarrassment and “self preservation” to be used for His works. Without concern for what others understanding of “the matrix” is.
Matrix means "womb" (Google "Etymology of matrix"). When Jesus is talking about "you must be BORN AGAIN out of the womb (matrix) He is talking about escaping the matrix. Becoming a Christian is how you escape the matrix (womb)
So because someone doesn't understand the unexplained vague statement u made up, they're a victim of said "pathology". Such a ridiculous, arrogant, and nonsensical statement to make. U losing it. U gotta reel it in. U serm to be gettin' lost in your own sauce, and letting your tiny bit of knowledge puff u up. And u are a son... pride comes before the fall... and warning comes before destruction. I love u. Humble yourself.
Bruh, if you didn't get it, no need to get mad. The internet is a big place with plenty of cat videos for you to peruse and deeply reflect on. This is a meat factor here. It's not for everyone.
@the_war_within Such an immature response. This is exactly what ppl do when they're wrong. They argue by attacking the person instead of actually addressing or making an argument about what was said because there isn't one. Should've been a good opportunity to reflect and love, but instead, u make childish insults that only prove what I said to be true.
Bruu when you don't understand the perspective a person is talking from, why don't you calm down and ask him to explain himself better, than trying to speak out of your self-righteousness.@@dwaynehiler5735
Peterson only sees true vs false. Truth is more complex than mere epistemics. Ontology (self relation), Axiology (self to others), Epistimics (3rd person relations which can be independently verified) are all present in the world. In fact, true and false most commonly are CHOICES while most things remain undetermined and vague without conscious decision(choice which excludes other choices).
Bye...very sad to rationalize away one of the modern Apostle Paul stories. You are very smart, but you ignorantly tried to bite off more than you were able to chew... and we are all aware of what you don't understand
When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss starts to talk about the problem with Jordan Peterson
@@gianlucac.v1795 😂😂
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JP has directly said Jesus Christ is God, and took the sins of the world on himself as a sacrifice for our salvation. If you judge his intent or mind then thats on you.
What human being understands everything? Consciousness is subjective not factual. Your definition of consciousness lacked substantive meaning. The things I hear Jordan Peterson talk about is very logical and practical. For example he gives the advice for people to “clean their rooms.” This is a very logical & practical start to fixing/organizing your life. Moreover your premise is misleading, but I’m sure you got a lot of click bait from Peterson lovers!
You missed the wisdom due your knowledge. Case in point, really
Broh, ... you can say anything about JP. He is a good man and even if he has flaws,we all have. He will find the way ,if he is looking for it. Pray for each other.
Brother, from the bottom of my heart, I would love to be your personal trainer.
I'm down
@@the_war_within I would be honored! How can we get in touch? My credentials below
Masters in human performance
Bachelor in sport science - intern with Houston Astros
Postural breathing certified
Yoga instructor
Strength and conditioning certified
This reminds me of that first therapy scene in Anger Management with Adam Sandler and Jack Nicholson.
“Please tell us who you are.”
“Sure, well I’m a pretty easy going guy. Not a very angry person”
“You’re describing your personality. Please just tell us who you are”
😂
Are you saying that Perterson is drenched in his own intellect that he can’t see past it?
He certainly has a way of missing the point of most truth in Scripture.
Rene Descartes is the one guy that got me so wrapped up in my thinking mind that I let 20 years of my life be consumed by it....including my multi-year binging of Peterson that did not help, but offered the premise of helpfulness. Angelo Dilulo and Michael Singer helped free me with their pointers. Still working on it though.
This is like the Inception explanation of consciousness…Or something…
I think you need to go further into this. People know more now.
In fairness, this is just actually a small part of a chapter in his book. I can see why so many are to quick to judge him out of ignorance. They haven’t the privilege of reading the chapters before the one he’s referencing here on top of it being a very deep topic the average person wouldn’t understand.
Be in the world but not of it :)
Sloganeering connotes the lack of intimate experience.
@@MJ-kd7dp Pride makes you say stupid things.
So🤔, cognito ergo sum, not, also. Aka it's a definite maybe-I feel strongly both ways.
I've never looked to him for spiritual instruction, and he himself has said he hasn't been a person of faith very long or with much study. His political and social analyses are on point, but that's not a qualification for explaining scripture or faith.
I don’t understand the point of this video. If Peterson only understands everything then how do you not just only understand everything?
Cam you make a video of how to have personal intimate time with Jesus/Holy Spirit and how just having a relationship with Jesus can help you be a better Christian than you just trying to obey the commandments of your own will
* This gentleman is a natural born teacher, and fun to listen to at times.
* Having said that, his succinct defining of consciousness lacks the Holy Spirit quickening to coherently & succinctly direct us directly to Jesus...
* The neutral third party perspective we are to have is that of our spiritman in Christ observing our soul as she navigates her external relationships & circumstances & her internal dialogue & imaginations... In other words, the "working out" of our own soul's "salvation" (Liberation)is the matter of our soul learning to ONLY look to Christ Jesus who already indwells us on a moment by moment basis...
* Only the presence of Jesus transforms to completion, and "practicing conscious awareness of Christ Jesus' presence within our soul" offers our soul the experiential day to day growth curve of coming to "know" (intimate grafting union) Jesus Himself...
* Our spiritman in Christ is our inner "husband", and our inner "woman"/"wife" is our soul. Our soul is called to choose yoking herself unto Christ Jesus like two livestock yoked together pulling a plow along the narrow path across the valley of the shadow of death-to-self... This is the "repentant abiding Life" of walking hand in hand with Jesus, literally, and in doing that our soul recognizes how it distorts the use of the talents God has given her in service of our fallen self nature, causing our soul to come to the place of "cherishing" her weaknesses & shortcomings that Jesus is lovingly revealing to her, until she one day is fully submitted by her own choice to the resurrected Life of Christ Jesus who indwells her...
* This is how Jesus grafts His selfless humility & power unto our soul... It is the full bridal-ing process of our inner "wife"/"woman" learning how to "revere" & "submit" to our inner "husband"/Spirit'man' in Christ, and once the labor pangs of doing this have run their course to completion, the ManChild is born into the earth through the exclusively unique soul of the Christian... It is the manifestation of Christ Jesus in the flesh.
* * * The "issue" Christians have to contend with isn't so much our "sinning ways" & "procrastinating ways", it is instead the fact that our spiritual nature is Not God's spiritual nature... Our soul is called to die to being the "helpmate" of the Adamic/self/fallen human nature that she was created from within the essence of... But it is a process filled with suffering, because the inclination & stubborn commitment to serve God from out of our soul's own planning & laboring is "baked" into our soul, so to speak.
* Thank you for the room to share with you, and I hope this is meat to chew on for you all the rest of your days.
- Shalom
PS:
- Jesus only practiced conscious awareness of our Heavenly Father's presence within His soul while He was on earth. We are singularly called to only look to Jesus in the same fashion.
- Rules of thumb: The Holy Spirit points people to Jesus & Jesus points people to our Heavenly Father.
"Jesus, the man who did everything, did nothing". Jesus' Faith wasn't in what He would do, it was in what our Heavenly Father would do. By virtue of that, our Living Hope & Faith on a moment to moment basis is ideally His Faith in our Heavenly Father... We are called to Exchange our life for His resurrected Life, and as we abide in Him, we learn to Live more & more From His resurrected Life, and less & less from our own life.
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* Yield to Jesus the idea of listening to the playlist titled "Basic Seminar" on the "Michael Wells Abiding Life Ministries International" UA-cam channel. After that, as led, revisit the playlist and even watch a few other playlists they have posted with Wells talking. (Don't allow your intellect to be offended by the term "basic seminar")... Just listen to it in Jesus' presence as though you are a young child (that is how we ought to read Scripture etc anyways).
- Finally, I recommend listening to a good chunk of Brother Lawrence's little book "The Practice of the Presence of God". Don't be discouraged by how in love Lawrence was with Jesus, that, I'm sure, took decades to blossom within his soul. Having said that, the book does a great job at conveying the reality of how Christ Jesus within us actually transforms our life unto an unceasing prayer if we learn to live the abiding Life.
Take some time and read romans 8,
What a great question! I’ll try to keep my response succinct. My explanation is just the tip of the iceberg.
Q1: think of intimate time with Jesus just like you would with any other friend. Talk to him pray to him read about him talk to friends about him ask questions about him, etc. as for the Holy Spirit what I do is, I usually pray before I read anything in the Bible, asking for the Holy Spirit to help me understand what I’m reading and how I can apply it in my life. To be my guide in short. I also spend time trying to listen to the Holy Spirit as well. It takes some practice to meditate on that because it seems like I have 1 million voices going on in my head with two radio stations but quieting the mind really does help what I would say most importantly is to memorize scripture so you know it’s the Holy Spirit talking to you. I do believe the language of the Holy Spirit is scripture and when he’s trying to talk to you or tell you something he’s gonna use scripture that pops up into your head that you stored in your heart.
Q2: there’s so much to unpack from this question and it’s taken me literally years to even understand the beginning of this. I used to focus only on me and my sin to where I should have focused on Jesus and how he erased my sin, and he did that before I was even born he died for me, knowing every sin that I would ever do even in the future, and he still died for me. It’s not about being good enough. It’s about how God the father sees you and your relationship with him in the sense of are you his enemy or are you his son? …and how that works is remembering that you have Jesus‘s cloak of righteousness on you and God doesn’t see your sin if you truly believe that Jesus is your savior. God sees you as righteous because what Jesus has done has made you righteous if you accept his free gift of salvation. God‘s gonna continue to work and change you into the image of his son. It’s called sanctification and it’s gonna take the rest of your physical life on earth and it’s gonna stink sometimes. It’s uncomfortable sometimes it’s called tension between your flesh and your spirit. It’s that way because you want to do good, but you can’t in your own power.
@@kennypowers17I really appreciate your answer it is gracefully articulated as well. I had posted this answer to him but believe it got erased, however it was on my clipboard so I'm pasting it here to share with you... Indeed, there is so much more to this than our minds conceive.
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* His succinct definition of consciousness lacks the Holy Spirit quickening to coherently & succinctly direct us directly to Jesus...
* The neutral third party perspective we are to have is that of our spiritman in Christ observing our soul as she navigates her external relationships & circumstances and her internal dialogue & imaginations... In other words, the "working out" of our own soul's "salvation" (Liberation)is the matter of our soul learning to ONLY look to Christ Jesus who already indwells us on a moment by moment basis...
* Only the presence of Jesus transforms to completion, and "practicing conscious awareness of Christ Jesus' presence within our soul" offers our soul the experiential day to day growth curve of coming to "know" (intimate grafting union) Jesus Himself...
* Our spiritman in Christ is our inner "husband", and our inner "woman"/"wife" is our soul. Our soul is called to choose yoking herself unto Christ Jesus like two livestock yoked together pulling a plow along the narrow path across the valley of the shadow of death-to-self... This is the "repentant abiding Life" of walking hand in hand with Jesus, literally, and in doing that our soul recognizes how it distorts the use of the talents God has given her in service of our fallen self nature, causing our soul to come to the place of "cherishing" her weaknesses & shortcomings (e.g. struggle with a particular 'sin') that Jesus is simultaneously, and lovingly, revealing to her, until she one day is fully submitted by her own choice to the resurrected Life of Christ Jesus who indwells her...
* This is how Jesus grafts His selfless humility & power unto our soul... It is the full bridal-ing process of our inner "wife"/"woman" learning how to "revere" & "submit" to our inner "husband"/Spirit'man' in Christ, and once the labor pangs of doing this have run their course to completion, the ManChild is born into the earth through the exclusively unique soul of the Christian... It is the manifestation of Christ Jesus in the flesh.
* * * The "issue" Christians have to contend with isn't so much our "sinning ways" & "procrastinating ways", it is instead the fact that our spiritual nature is Not God's spiritual nature... Our soul is called to die to being the "helpmate" of the Adamic/self/fallen human nature that she was created from within the essence of... But it is a process filled with suffering, because the inclination & stubborn commitment to serve God from out of our soul's own planning & laboring is "baked" into our soul, so to speak.
* Thank you for the room to share with you, and I hope this is meat to chew on for you all the rest of your days.
- Shalom
PS:
- Jesus only practiced conscious awareness of our Heavenly Father's presence within His soul while He was on earth. We are singularly called to only look to Jesus in the same fashion.
- Rules of thumb: The Holy Spirit points people to Jesus & Jesus points people to our Heavenly Father.
"Jesus, the man who did everything, did nothing". Jesus' Faith wasn't in what He would do, it was in what our Heavenly Father would do. By virtue of that, our Living Hope & Faith on a moment to moment basis is ideally His Faith in our Heavenly Father... We are called to Exchange our life for His resurrected Life, and as we abide in Him, we learn to Live more & more From His resurrected Life, and less & less from our own life.
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* Yield to Jesus the idea of listening to the playlist titled "Basic Seminar" on the "Michael Wells Abiding Life Ministries International" UA-cam channel. After that, as led, revisit the playlist and even watch a few other playlists they have posted with Wells talking. (Don't allow your intellect to be offended by the term "basic seminar")... Just listen to it in Jesus' presence as though you are a young child (that is how we ought to read Scripture etc anyways).
- Finally, I recommend listening to a good chunk of Brother Lawrence's little book "The Practice of the Presence of God". Don't be discouraged by how in love Lawrence was with Jesus, that, I'm sure, took decades to blossom within his soul. Having said that, the book does a great job at conveying the reality of how Christ Jesus within us actually transforms our life unto an unceasing prayer if we learn to live the abiding Life.
- Shalom
This is rhetorical, no dialectic explanation.
This is an interesting and refreshing concept. I’ve always referred to my thinking brain and my body in the “third person”, as something I’m not, by definition, tethered to.. but rather I have autonomous existence to in *addition* to these things. We are not our thoughts and we are not our bodies- this is actually great news. The Word of God is like a two-edged sword.. we can separate these things and live higher with the Most High.
Love your content! and your replies to these comments!😂
Here from tiktoc 👀 anyone else?
So basically ur saying Jordan Peterson is in a constant state of observing his thoughts and experiences that he doesnt even get to actually experience things in real life? Makes sense why he hasnt fully committed to Jesus Christ. Bro is too busy observing Jesus that he will never have an actual experience with Jesus.
Who’s it to you to judge the journey some men take to find truth? We all literally walk from different paths in life.
@@Aaronllll lol
Could never make me hate jordan
Hate is not what's being presented, far from it, it's out of Love, that those who are in Christ, desire to reveal TRUTH or Shinning the LIGHT upon a darkness, in JP's case, bro Mike is shinning the light of God upon someone who is still very 'Worldly', who hasn't truly grasp the Truth that is God.....
I'd argue it is really just a way to clickbait people.
There's many layers of the matrix that even Michael doesn't know about. It would be akin to me saying "War Within talks about leaving the matrix while still having his birth certificate bond in place". Has he reclaimed his estate? I doubt it.
Michael has a bit of a niche audience, and is therefore having to be creative in drawing a bigger net. My wife and I own a Holistic Health practice where we often do Inner Healing and Deliverance. Most Christians are so religiously programmed they think herbs and frequencies are demonic, when God created them. So yeah, I understand his struggle.
@@T4nkcommander God created sex too, doesn’t mean it’s good when two unmarried people have it. Gonna need to expand on your business and practices because it kinda sounds new age. Not judging or assuming, but raises questions.
@@Rc-tb9uy meh - that's kind of proving my point. The clients we have - most from satanic ritual abuse backgrounds - understand that the enemy only copies what was made. It sounds new age because the church has completely failed to steward the knowledge. But ultimately, there are two sources to choose from. Partner with the Most High or His enemies, but He created the waveform equation and every wave that makes up our being.
It is comical, really, how everyone will claim to understand modern physics and get continually reject most of its precepts as "new age".
You're just trying to blow out his candle to make your brighter...gay
This video was filmed 2 years ago. I'm reposting it from my TikTok, which has 220,000 followers. I'm already famous. I don't need or want the attention. Want to try a different hypothesis perhaps?
@the_war_within you're a shape shifting demon disguised has human that feeds off human drama to survive and 1 Corinthians 2:14
Test
Brilliant, my Brother
“Escaping the matrix to come back kicking ass” is one of the most incredible definitions I came across so far, thanks for sharing
Thanks Doc. Another good video.
Excellent.
Enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work 👍
I find sharing, and reach are inversely related. A question to answer would be: "How do you reach the maximum amount of people, whilst still holding onto your resolve?".
Judging Jordan Peterson...
Jesus would be proud I'm sure.
Let me guess... Butt hurt atheist who needs some "I'm a good person" validation points, so you can top off your virtue signaling credit account, so you can use faux-virtue as a currency to pay off your con-science, so it will shut up for a minute and you can go back to watching [k]orn in peace?
Nah Jordan changes and has moodswings, i can clearly see when he is bring nasty and sarcastic and if he is the softer Jordan, i can even tell through the face. Its a weird ability i suppose. Yes he knows a lot, but he has not been through all that he has learned…………think about that. Knowledge is different, yes we can all attain it, wisdom however is not just the action of applying that knowledge but also mastering it, meaning……….how many tries does it take to be successful as something? Like riding a bike? Or walking as a baby? It takes a while to master things, so for jordan to know everything as you claim…….i have to disagree, just because he wirks with broken people a lot does not mean he actually has wisdom regarding that……yes you gain insight/knowledge from that HOWEVER wisdom only comes from when you yourself have gone through the experience……and not just once…….but multiple times over and over until you gain something positive from it………so fir instance, how many divorces has he had? None? Yeah but he sees it everyday………my friend…….seeing someone ride a bike everyday is not going to help you be able to ride a bike if you dont know how…….you get it? So please………people should stop thinking themselves experts just because they hang around others, just observing and advising them what they were told to say and do……..no…….a REAL EXPERT (and there are 1% of them on earth) is someone who has actual wisdom gained through their own multiple failures and now they can help others to see light at end of tunnel because they know how to get there………….lets stop worshipping people and be thankful for the true experts who were given their wisdom from God to help others
I don’t even understand, what I don’t understand.
How can you be so confident about someone else’s understanding of the matter. You have no knowledge of his experience. Just using his name for the views. Not very Christian. You can’t tell me that there was Jesus behind while you were recording this self serving nonsense.
This is awkward. My video is a critique of "understanding" and "knowledge" itself. Jordan Peterson has knowledge and understanding. My point is that logic and reason itself is a limiting memetic prison and there is a realm of wisdom outside of knowledge that JP is yet to ascend to.
Man as much as I appreciate ‘Christian’ content creators, the titles used are VERY unattractive!! It’s very clickbaitey! Since when did Christian’s conform to the norm of anything secular, why not use titles that are less….dare I say derogatory. “The problem with Jordan Peterson” is so cringey and leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. I actually disregarded your message of the video(literally didn’t pay any attention to what you said) and chose to interact via this comment, I couldn’t get past the title. What about something like, “My commentary on Jordan Peterson”. Also not just this video title, but a plethora of Christian content creators on UA-cam use the worst video titles and thumbnails, all for the sake of what…..clicks and interactions? Thought we could hold ourselves to higher standards than that.
Best regards,
Aaron.
Jordan is doing Good work regardless. I totally understand what you are saying.
But he does explain the problem with Jordan Peterson, so how is it Clickbait?
The problem with Jordan is that he was put into a thorazine coma and brainwashed in Dec 2019.
Mk ultra cia style. How people miss this is worrying.
@@yellowballoon4143Yes he does, but to just outright say 'The problem with' especially regarding someone, is a pretty harsh critique and sets the president for the conversation, and for me, it's a somewhat a closed conversation infact it's not even a conversation rather a statement. Hence why I said, a title like 'My commentary on' that way you are able to offer your perspective on a subject or person and have the listener or viewer chime in and thus a.....conversation can begin.
So... let me get this straight. Your comment is literally longer than your video watch time? Why should anyone care about your opinion about a video you didn't watch?
MMLJ=2050Jesus..!
Can you also make a video of how to hear God like how to pray and actually hear what He has to say, I feel like I struggle with prayer , I've been having a love/hate/resentment relationship with God and I don't know what to do
I learned and I'm pretty sure it's in the book, you need to be quite and listen. You cant blast him with questions and thoughts and the slam the door.
I've heard that he speaks to us through his Word. Be in your bible every day. This is how we get to know God, in his Word. Most of us spend more time on everything else but God. We need to make reading and praying our #1 priority because once we are done here, we'll have eternity with Him. So we have to work on that relationship constantly. Doing that will make our time here better too. Hope that helps.
Consider getting deliverance. Your hindrance may be rooted in the spiritual rather than just your soul.
Heresy hunter. 👌🏻
Imagine thinking you just said something
And he would end the video with that statement. Got me.
It’s hard to listen to anyone who doesn’t know what Illuminati symbolism is. Keep standing there with your triangle hands. Tells me all I need to know.
I feel for you.
Yup. Jordan is breaking that off faster, even if he doesn't even realize it. Kinda defeats the point of this video, if Jordan is detaching from the Matrix while Michael doesn't even sense some parts of it.
Bruh still thinks the earth is flat after the final experiment. 😄Is the flat earth in the room with us?
@ bruh still doesn’t know the Bible. You can’t fight an enemy you can’t see.
45min of cardio 3x per week.
Lol. Dually noted. Thank you
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My favorite thing is unqualified pseudointellectuals shitting on the most published experts in their field.
Who wants to tell him I'm an MD with a 164 IQ and a photographic memory?
@@the_war_within and are YOU the most published MD in your discipline? Because Jordan is.
@@the_war_within if I had photog mem I think my brain would get too crowded...😮 ...unless as is maybe my brain will get unlocked in heaven(seriously scary)
@@the_war_within….and that’s just the beginning. You didn’t even list the books you’ve read. You’re wasting carbs feeding the trolls, brother.
Instead think of the following:
1. "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" - Matthew 5:10
2. "If you suffer for doing good and endure it patiently, this is commendable before God" - 1 Peter 2:20
I started to watch, i say started because i couldn't finish the first episode, his lecture called Genesis which is found on Daily Wire. I had to stop it after drugging through an hour of it. He hadn't even gotten to Genesis yet and I knew he was lost and not a believer of the gospel. Now to see you come out and say basically what i was thinking confirms it for me. I like him don't get me wrong. He has great things to say, but he is not a believer. He is trying to hard to rationalize Jesus and he's missing the whole thing. Its truly sad
I'm a friend of our Lord Jesus and also appointed to be a teacher of the Gospel, I dunno how to arrive there but you really inspire me in my walk and dreams to be one of the mouthpieces of Jesus in this generation
lions diet !
Dam …bro .. . That was very good break down. We..me… love breakdown in English. lol
Just wondering did you make this with ai video.
This video was filmed nearly 3 years ago before AI was prevalent.
I've read echart tolle and didn't know what to do with that information since I became a Christian
Meditation has its place however id say that is spiritual bypassing and it will cause issues. Take no thought as Christ said and watchfulness because you never know at what hour the master will return to the house.
I think that echart is irresponsible it’s dangerous.
What?
While I agree with the concept of what you're saying, I think the simpler way to put it would be. The waterfall represents the matrix, though our escape from The matrix isn't one that is easily accomplished. My analogous reasoning for this, is because all of these thoughts, ideas, principles, concepts of who we are are noise and distractions. The example I give is that of the old record player. If you listen to the sound of the music your mind would have to turn off the hiss the pop the sound that is not the music. By tuning out these distractions you can enjoy the sound and honestly it's even better than the digital. The digital doesn't require you to do any work to enjoy the music. Digital is like "seeing" analog is more akin to "feeling". When you listen to those old records on a record player with all of the extra noise your brain is activated and trying to hear the music more than the noise. That is the key to leaving The matrix to hear the music more than we hear the noise.
BROTHER! I didnt know you had a youtube?!?! Im friends with you on facebook haha
Just starting out here now that TikTok is winding down
I don't think this scripture applies to Jordan: Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:7. My impression of Jordan is he is a gateway for intellectuals to find Jesus. He opens the door that they would never open otherwise to point them to Christ. It still has to be their decision to pursue what Jordan shows; he gives evidence that Jesus is who He said He is. If Jordan hasn't made a profession of faith publicly perhaps it's by design.... Just something to consider.
nice one
It sounds like what you’re saying is that Peterson doesn’t understand every person’s subjective, “lived experience” as many new age-y types of thinking would describe it.
I think Peterson acknowledges that these different subjective experiences exist, but he believes our experience as an individual shouldn’t be focused on as much because it’s typically not something we can control very well as most of it is in the past and a good part of it is circumstantial.
I believe he focuses more on truth and learning things that we might not inherently know as a means to mitigate the chaos of life that comes through these different subjective experiences.
So it’s not that he doesn’t understand them, it’s that he doesn’t focus on them because when you’re speaking to thousands of people, you can’t address every single person’s individual experiences at once.
It’s not a sim.
So double slit wave particle duality of not a digital "if/than" statement?
Articulation of the Ghost ✝️
You are right, but where you are wrong is to asume that people who listen to Peterson don’t know this, people are not as dumb as they come of, most understand what you are expressing intuitively.
Lol. You should have read the comments before posting this.
Dr. Cocchini, I have a question if you have time:
Is part of faith the recognition and acknowledgment of the matrix that Jesus worked outside of from within? And is “true” faith the acknowledgment of that matrix and the ability to do his works through Jesus in that recognition. Grace by Faith for Works kinda thing? Or simply the joining of our consciousness with His in that recognition?
Thanks for the red pill Doc. The prescription of life in Him.
Been trying to step outside of my selfish ego dome of embarrassment and “self preservation” to be used for His works. Without concern for what others understanding of “the matrix” is.
How do you leave the matrix then?
You be patient and have Faith as always!
Matrix means "womb" (Google "Etymology of matrix"). When Jesus is talking about "you must be BORN AGAIN out of the womb (matrix) He is talking about escaping the matrix. Becoming a Christian is how you escape the matrix (womb)
@ Amen
So because someone doesn't understand the unexplained vague statement u made up, they're a victim of said "pathology". Such a ridiculous, arrogant, and nonsensical statement to make. U losing it. U gotta reel it in. U serm to be gettin' lost in your own sauce, and letting your tiny bit of knowledge puff u up. And u are a son... pride comes before the fall... and warning comes before destruction. I love u. Humble yourself.
Bruh, if you didn't get it, no need to get mad. The internet is a big place with plenty of cat videos for you to peruse and deeply reflect on. This is a meat factor here. It's not for everyone.
@the_war_within Such an immature response. This is exactly what ppl do when they're wrong. They argue by attacking the person instead of actually addressing or making an argument about what was said because there isn't one. Should've been a good opportunity to reflect and love, but instead, u make childish insults that only prove what I said to be true.
Bruu when you don't understand the perspective a person is talking from, why don't you calm down and ask him to explain himself better, than trying to speak out of your self-righteousness.@@dwaynehiler5735
Peterson only sees true vs false. Truth is more complex than mere epistemics. Ontology (self relation), Axiology (self to others), Epistimics (3rd person relations which can be independently verified) are all present in the world. In fact, true and false most commonly are CHOICES while most things remain undetermined and vague without conscious decision(choice which excludes other choices).
Bye...very sad to rationalize away one of the modern Apostle Paul stories. You are very smart, but you ignorantly tried to bite off more than you were able to chew... and we are all aware of what you don't understand
Bruh, if you didn't get it, just say you didn't get it.
Also, I've posted a detailed response to your concerns here.... ua-cam.com/video/i0BTdo6qGwo/v-deo.html
his big problem is he's usually an expert on a matter, in this case he is an infant barely on milk