People would complain that seeing Kyle cry made him a weaker character, but let's stop for a second. The guy was born in a world torn apart by nukes and grew up knowing nothing but the war against machines. He had no idea what the world looked like before the war, his only link to it was an old picture. His breakdown happened because he saw how the world was indeed beautiful, and the horrible realization that the war he fought was still coming.
Gambit771 I'm not spreading tixic behaviour like saying one sex is better than the other I'm just sayimg crying made Kyle more stronger from opening up and showing his weakest state.
h adb No you was spouting nonsense about toxic masculinity. You never talked about crying and whatnot only used the op's comment to spread your feminist nonsense and attack masculinity. That's toxic behaviour.
In the deleted scene about Cyberdyne, Kyle says "Nah, that's tactically dangerous." In Terminator 2 when they go to stop Sarah from killing Dyson, the T-800 says "This is tactically dangerous." A callback to a scene nobody saw. Another parallel between the movies and characters. I love it.
In T2 someone asks Miles where'd he get the chip and he answers 'When I asked them the same question, they told me, Don't ask'. Same exact exchange happens in Aliens between two corporate workers
And Kyle was right! Sarah's actions in the sequel only resulted in the creation of an EVEN more powerful version of Skynet in Terminator 3. One WITHOUT a system core to blow up!
What makes it worse is we find out that where they ended up was Cyberdyne! Wasn’t that the building they blew up with Miles Dyson in T2?! *X files theme plays*
That one scene where Sarah talks about Cyberdyne is the first time that Sarah shows that assertive and aggressive side. Sarah Conner in T1 and T2 are two completely different people. In T1 Sarah's an average girl, in T2 Sarah's a freaking soldier.
@@stevevigilante9944 I Wish that Arnold S. was President, At Least He would've Been Better Then Donald Trump, and At Least We won't have to go through any Impeachment BullS**t anymore too.
The entire post-apocalypse genre is built on the knowledge of the pre-apocalypse then seeing the post. Kyle saw it in reverse. That scene was incredible. Pacing aside it will brilliant seeing a man born into a nuclear blasted hellscape being hunted by killer machines seeing and hearing real nature for the first time. Amazing writing.
Nuclear war would destroy major cities and most forest areas would be intact. To kill all the forests would make the planet unbreathable so its dumb to say the whole world would be a desert
Yeah all these years I was pissed that all we saw of Kyle looking at this lost world was that one snippet of him walking in the morning after they slept in the tunnel. I had always wished there was a scene where he expressed wonder and awe at the beauty of nature and this was written beautifully, but sadly the acting wasn't quite up to snuff and the lighting made them both look terrible. It's too bad they didn't have the budget to do unlimited takes until it looked right because this scene really deserved to be in the film to flesh out the tragic quality of Reese's mission.
@@christianaguiare544 maybe you know this but he was meant to be because James Remar was given the role in Aliens but lost it because he was caught with drugs and on short notice James Cameron got Michael Biehn and said we'll basically have his character more or less the same as The Terminator.
I swear i saw all these scenes. Must've been special edition. In any case, I'm glad it's the only version I saw. All these scenes add so much and it's clear that they were only cut due to executive meddling
One could feel the love relationship between Sarah and Kyle is kind of gratuitous, but after watching these very intimate scenes between them one begins to understand why she fell so hard for him. This is not only a love story about a girl falling for her savior, it's about a woman who sympathizes with the deep sorrow of a desperate man.
+Esteban Mata Vargas It's also a story about a boy falling for his goddess, the woman he's worshipped since he was a youth, without any hope of ever knowing her. It's about a man who encounters the impossible paradise of a woman at once unreal and suddenly more real than he would have sworn possible. I think that's where the intensity of that daylight scene comes from. It's not just the world that's gone - _she's_ gone as well. He comes from the future, but she lives here in the present, and she never makes it to his world, and I think here is where he makes that connection. _She_ is part of _here_, and _here_ is gone. In a very real way then, _she does not exist._ This is serious "one false move and you lose your mind" territory. He is utterly, utterly unmoored in this moment, and her designation as his target is the only thing keeping him alive. Of all the kamikaze missions I've heard of, this one has to be the most badass, I swear.
Serai3 I completely agree with you. I hope some day someone will shot a spin off about how Kyle pictured Sarah during the days of deeply despair in their war against Skynet. It could actually a nice animated short film.
When you watch scenes like the one in which Sarah runs from Kyle and he talks about how he doesn't belong in this time, you have to wonder why Michael Biehn didn't become a much bigger film star. That was some heavy shit right there.
Thomas Conyers Damn, that sucks. I always wondered why her career didn't take off more - plenty of people smoke a lot of cigarettes so there must be more to it than that.
Tickling the PTSD soldier dude seems like a bad idea. . .the black cop believing Kyle's story just seems .. unrealistic to me so I'm glad they cut that too. But the other scenes are quite wonderful. And the one where Sarah is talking about taking Reese to Disneyland actually is so incredibly fucking depressing because you know how awesome his life would be with the literal love of his life, raising John Connor together..FUCK that's heartbreaking.
Sadly, he had ZERO credibility with Sarah..oh, you're in a crowded club, you'll be fine....oh, he's not bulletproof, he was just wearing body armor....oh, you're in a police station surrounded by cops, you'll be fine.... Poor guy was wrong after wrong after wrong....
I know! All other scenes are ok. The ones about Sarah wanted to destroy Cyberdyne are cool if you look at this movie in a self-contained manner, but it doesn't work too good with the sequel. However the cop scene is the only one that I truly feel sorry about every time I watch the movie. mrnonsense1031 The cop doesn't believe him right away, I mean he only considered it a possibility, due to how convinced he sounded, however when the Terminator did show up, he suddenly believed everything.
@Artificial245 Agreed, the scene was not good at all and it was very wise to delete, he pointed a gun at her for no apparent reason and then they both cry like babies it's bizarre and out of place.
It is very interesting! that scene combined with the final cyberdyne scene setup a lot for Terminator 2 that I am shocked was in Terminator 1.....!!......but it's almost as if they didn't want to take away from the first movie by making it the classic "here comes the sequel before the movie's even over" ending.... so I think it was a good move! But I'm blown away that the T2s plot was already in there.. but I still like that they took this out... my world would be quite different if not........ also it appears that just like any classic time paradox, cyberdyne was actually not an innovator in the technology.... it ended up being that because Sarah took the "false" clue from the future that it would be productive to go to their lab.......but thanks to that, that's where the Terminator ended up being destroyed and is the only reason they ended up with the technology from the Terminator from the future...... leading us to the same set up in T2
I'm an asexual person and I think Michael Biehn was a fucking bombshell. I just watched a very sweet movie (I think it was his film debut) called Coach. I still have misgivings about it because it's basically Lolita with the genders reversed, a 30something female basketball coach is on the down low with a beautiful high school boy. But I couldn't help but find it funny and charming. Biehn starts off as the only one in his circle of friends without a girlfriend (even though he's the fairest one of all lol) and his performance feels very innocent, then very cheeky and sassy. It's the movie I've seen him smile the most in. Jabberwocky!
The scene where a mortally wounded Lt Traxler tells Reese to take care of Sarah is really interesting. I know there's been some speculation as to what was really happening but it could simply be that although he doesn't necessarily believe Kyle's story about the terminator and time travel, he does understand that someone is determined to kill her, no matter the cost and that Kyle is equally determined to protect her.
@@AustraliaUnmasked1984 He actually seemed more open to Reese than the others. He seemed to be contemplating the possibility that Reese was telling the truth. In any event, whatever his doubts, seeing the Terminator wipe through his entire force erased his doubts and made him realize the truth.
Holy crap right? Like Sarah was already thinking about how to prevent the war? T1 and T2 are the only real Terminator films staying true to their original idea; all the rest have been cash grab.
Dumb fools ridiculing Reese's tear. The character clearly never seen scenery like this in his lifetime before being sent in time. All he ever remembered was war after war after war. Carnage and survival is his life. Dude doesn't even shower, let alone being able to sleep for even an hour. If he can, explosions, loud shouts and gun fire are his lullaby. The reaction when he pulled the gun on Sarah when she struck him says a lot about his character as well. Kyle is a walking PTSD. Then you got Genysis Kyle who look like a body builder, slept well, shaved, ate everyday, and questions a lot. He's literally the opposite version of the worn battle Kyle from this one. So yeah, it makes perfect sense that original Kyle Reese has finally breathed fresh air for the first time ever that is not filled with dust and human ash in his lungs.
This scene would have giving his character alot of sympathy. He had never seen the grass or trees. Stuff we see on a daily basis. I myself love to take strolls through the woods every now and then. I couldn't imagine living a life where all of that was gone forever, so seeing Kyle break down seeing it all for the first time in this scene, was very sad and just shows we take things for granted. I know its a movie but that little bit of footage was a powerful scene.
@@LauRa-re9un That’s not true! I’ve listened to every minute of producer/director commentary out there. We’ll never know all the nuances of why each deleted scene got scrapped, but it’s meant to be very emotional.
@@LauRa-re9un IKR their relationship makes me wanna cry. It was so short but so beautiful I wish they added this clip to make their time together a little longer
Agreed. I actually liked all these scenes, but the tickling one is particularly funny, touching and just plain adorable. I love Kyle and Sarah together.
Michael Biehn is literally the most perfect Kyle Reese. The scene where he cries is the most humane moment he would’ve ever had. But I think they made the right choice leaving it out. I think him being portrayed as keeping his mind on the mission + having that one sexual scene with Sarah is the most realistic route they could’ve taken. The scene Traxler died telling Kyle Sarah has to stay alive should’ve been kept in I felt.
They should've left it in, we're seeing a side of Kyle that's humane and deep. Being born into a post apocalyptic world and then seeing a fantasy is raw beauty. It doesn't hurt the other aspects of his character at all...
Traxler was an experienced detective, and he could tell quickly if someone is lying or not. He sensed that Reese was likely telling the truth. They should have at least kept that scene in as well as the last one in front of Cyberdyne Systems.
Yeah, it wouldnt add that much to the runtime but would make the character more interesting, in comparison to everyone else thinking that Reese is crazy. I think more scenes with Reese in gneral should remain like daytime with him grieving how of all of nature and beauty will be gone. The more time they have together the better before the ending, making his death more impactful.
@@Kacpa2 I agree. I think we've all seen deleted scenes from movies and wondered why the heck they've removed them. Seen a couple where I felt they were right and would have added nothing to the film, or even unneeded complexity to the story.
@@valentinius62 True but sometimes filmmakers just make a very bad call or include pointless things in place of more important scenes. For example Hobbit the battle of five armies even in extended editions ommitted emotional scenes like full funeral for Thorin with Gandalf's speech, or quite pivotal scenes like Gandalf confronting Thranduil that his son is far more important gift and reminder of his wife than some gems he had dwarves make for her. Instead extended edition had more of stupid scenes. Compare that to deleted scenes reinstated in Lord of the Rings its just more of important scenes to tie up plot threads like death of Saruman, or more scenes from the books like heorns after battle of Helms Deep, or Houses of healing scenes between Eowyn and Faramir, Mouth of sauron, all are the scenes from the book. Only cut that was excessive but understandable was Scouring of the Shire, a very important part for the Hobbits, but movie was already too long.
@MarceloMedeiros-iv2xi He is lying dead in the factory. And his body is taken away at the end. Its done for e rrason to how how fragile we are compared to terminators. Wasnalreadybbadly injured as they entered the factory.
True, that scene would've given the two an actual goal instead of them just running from the terminator I mean obviously they would've had to face him at some point and I think a final confrontation with the terminator would've been more appropriate at cyberdyne systems by trying to stop judgement day themselves with the terminator being the only thing in their way.
That 20 second scene where the black cop says "he better be" should have stayed in. It's pretty chilling to see an outside party consider how horrifying the Skynet scenario really is
I love first two T movies, second one has for me really better audiovisuals, but damn.. i miss Kyle so much. He wears bandages, he is scared, he is feeling pain, he is confused, wounded and now, i see him crying. How organic and authentic he is. Badass. One of the best characters i ever met in any movie.
@@thisyoutubehandleisdumbasfuck Yeah but I said he was referencing; I've read the book and know the quote so knew he wasn't quoting. It's on page 151 where Traxler says "Some of those 'Nam special-forces guys had that look." I'm guessing Ryan would have been in Iraq/Afghanistan and not 'Nam, although I suppose it's possible. Sadly not many of those guys left.
What scares me most are those who don't feel the pain from it. Those who relish, they get high off it, those who join the armed services or law enforcement for all the wrong reasons, because deep down they _want_ to hurt and kill people. They exist, and they're horrifying AF.
@@prpwnage9296 why??? I haven't seen it but can you explain why you liked it..Do you think its' good though cause i've just heard a majority of people dislike it..hahah and some plot points i read about hahah
I love that Sarah was ready to take action against Cyberdyne! Fits in so well with the determination that her character had in the second movie. Wish they would of left that in.
When I was a kid I was glad they cut the crying scene because I thought action characters shouldn't cry, as an adult I wish they kept that scene because no matter how tough Kyle Reese is, his humanity and compassion is what separates him from the machines.
Sometimes less is more. These deleted scenes show us James Cameron crystal clear vision of what he wanted from this film. He left them out as they were unnecessary and didn't bring anymore to the story line. However the level of thought to cover all bases of human emotion is astounding. A brilliant Film, a brilliant story, brilliant character development, brilliant acting, brilliant attention to detail, everything about this film is brilliant!! It's a shame everything out of Hollywood these days is utter drivel.
+dtadeo2006 Instant sequels were not yet a thing back in 1984. And this wasn't a huge film. The studio didn't have any confidence in it - the only thing that kept Cameron safe from studio rewriting bullshit was the low-budget guerilla nature of it.
The scene where Sarah looks up Cyberdyne and wants to take them down, and the finishing shot of them should both be included on a special edition or something. It makes the stuff with Cyberdyne in T-2 look less coincidental, and also adds a layer to the backstory of Sarah getting locked up.
In my view they should have kept almost all of these scenes. It is only about 9 more minutes, and most of the scenes added a nice little extra bit to the story and the narrative overall.
Chu Kim you don't understand... nobody believed in that cheap movie made by the young director... nobody cared... only God knew it would be one of the most legendary movie in the history of cinema
God, seeing him break down is heart breaking. I will never understand this idea of "Real men don't cry or show feelings." This man has suffered in ways none of these "real men" had ever suffered. Imagine living a life of eternal war, growing up knowing how to fight just as you learn to speak or read a all but futile war against a relentless enemy in a world seemingly endless in twilight, then being taken to a time before all that. You'd be in a alien world untouched by the horrors you witness, but burdened with the knowledge it will be lost in the coming years. I think even the strongest of men or women would break from that.
In today's media, most "strong women" NEVER cry 😂 Because they're meant to be "manly" 😂 Days of creative writing are long gone. Thats why the 80s and 90s and early 2000s have the gems.
"Real men don't cry or show feelings"... that is a saying that I don't agree with. I believe that we as human beings have feelings and cry when we're hurt or something else. As a man myself, I have moments when I cry or get my feelings hurt or tested. But how I deal with it is what makes the difference from being a strong willed man and being a vulnerable man. Even the male species is just as prone to many things as the female species is. It's not always easy being the strong willed leader your party needs you to be, your greatest strength can also be greatest weakness.
Really great to hear Sarah herself say the "there's no fate but the fate we make for ourselves' line - in this scene from the original, when she's talking about blowing up Cyberdyne. Which plays a key part in the second, when she carves it into wood and goes to blow it up. And the quote is what makes John realise that's what she's gone off to do. So this scene included in the original, would have given that scene so much more power and meaning in the second!
Almost. In T2, John says he told his dad in the future to say that to his mum in the past so she could tell John once he was old enough. Here, Sarah said it to Kyle, which contradicts what John said. It could have worked with a bit of rewording but it'd be better if Kyle said it to her. Obviously, James Cameron didn't know what'd happen in T2 when he filmed this scene - he's a genius but he doesn't know any real time travellers.
The best ones were the one about Cyberdyne and the one where Kyle and Sara talk about stopping the war and how Kyle views Sara's world as a fairytail!That was a very emotional scene!
This poor man doesn't even know what a hot dog is!! Imagine an alternate ending where Sarah Connor and Reese are hugging and kissing in front of the destroyed Schwarzenegger robot, just as a news reporter turns to them: "So now that you have terminated the terminator, what do you plan to do next?" Reese(turns towards the camera): "I'm going to Disneyland!!" * "Back in time" music from Back to the future plays as screen goes dark
Md Ray He is a robot, but not a cyborg. He is an android to be more specific. There are different types of robots. Like, different shapes for example. You can have a spherical robot, rectangular robot, cubic robot, etc. etc. Robots that resemble humans specifically are called androids (andro-, ex. androphobia = fear of men (males), andro adding as a man, meaning human). Cyborgs are humans by definition, that have robotic or mechanical parts. Ex. a man with a robotic leg, arm, heart, eye... Those are cyborgs (I think Marcus in Terminator Salvation is a cyborg as well, he had a human brain which is the main aspect of being a human while the rest of his body was robotic soooo yeaah). And before you say anything about the movie itself mentioning the terminator being a cyborg, the movie is wrong. By definition. I guess because "cyborg" sounds darker and more original for its time.
I like how Traxler actually had a moment where he might have believed Reese after he was interrogated. It kinda made the scene where he gave Reese the gun more meaningful.
It did put the movie to an unnecessary halt when they are obviously in a rush to get away from the terminator. And you can already get a subtle hint that Traxler believes Kyle to a certain extent in the interrogation scene.
It was shot wrong because they were running and a stop there is akward. Should have been sneaking and been startled by Traxler or something instead. Its a nice little scene.
You want it because we love the Traxler, but his character is just not important enough to merit the attention, and though this is very sad, for we do love Paul Winfield, we accept it because we realize that Terminator is a more badass movie without it
As phonebook scene does. These two are making a visible connection with T2. Before this video I thought that Cameron did not want to make a sequel. Because just without these scenes T1 is a complete movie. Which needs no sequel. My opinion, all of these scenes are so important...I can't believe they're not in the final movie cut
Had the exact same thought when I saw it, but after thinking it over, it's better without the last two scenes. The reason is because it goes right from that point to the scene in the desert where we find out that Kyle is John's father. That's a great scene, because it deals with time travel issues by making it all a nice circle. The machines tried to kill John before he was born, but by doing that, they caused him to be created. There's no paradox - the time travel itself created the future that the time travelers came from. Very clever compared to most sci-fi that just sort of wings it with time travel and puts no thought into how its messing everything up. But anyway, it you include the scenes with the guys talking about the chip or reveal that it was at Cyberdyne, then you would basically be pulling the same trick twice in a row in two minutes. Maybe audiences could have handled it, but it's just way cleaner without introducing that. It works well in the sequel because it's its own movie where that issue is presented and developed as the its own focal point of discussion.
This is really great stuff, especially the part where it is revealed that the factory they broke into actually belonged to Cyberdine... This would mean that had Reece and the Terminator not been sent back through time then neither the saviour of the human race nor its nemesis could ever have existed in the first place. Brilliant
@@OmegaSaiyan92 Tell that to the deleted ending of Terminator 2 what I believe should've being kept in and be done with this series to be pure gold instead of well the rest crap.
nah the dude who made the chip would have done so anyway its why sarah went to kill him. Him becoming aware of everything made no difference either way. Skynets takeover and nuclear war is inevitable in the timeline iirc :(
The factory has very little connection to the phenomenon. It is said clearly in the final scene (in Mexico) that Sarah is pregnant abd Kyle is the father, so John wouldn exist without Skynet and time travel. With factory or without. And in T2 we get to know that Cyberdyne made its processor using ideas and technology from first Terminators chip. Again, with factory of without.
*opens door* "Arnold: Charles Turner? "Nah Man he moved out of here like five months ago. He's in Germany now. In Berlin I think." Arnold promptly turns around and walks away "Man that was too fucking easy. Why don't they do that in the movies!
@@darkwriter5758 Not before T3. T3 came out at a time with a lot things being available online and digital. Not so with T1 and T2. There's a reason why in T1 he uses a phone book and that's all he has until he comes across her drivers license. Same for T2 only it's a photo of John that the T-1000 sees and presumably the T-800 unless John showed him an old photo he had.
You know that deleted scene with the detective giving his gun to Kreese should have stayed in. It was almost the same shot and a perfect bookend to Miles Dyson staying behind to help them get away.
+Leo Lim the sequels actually weren't officially cancelled so Genisys is def still canon, it was much better than the abomination that is Salvation anyhow
Who wouldn't shed a tear knowing the world was going to be f---d up in the future. But those scenes didn't fit in. Just like her standing up to him or that moment in bed. It took away from his mission and softened the movie. He had to be all business and she had to be submissive in that regard. I like those scenes but it adds a whole new element to the movie that isn't really part of the plot. It would have been easy to leave them in but so many movies add a love story. Why not not have one? They're nice and that's the problem because the Terminator isn't.
@@priestgoober5160 Because he grew up in a goddamn post apocalyptic future living off of every little bit of scrap he could find in an irradiated wasteland, let alone endlessly fighting off near-unstoppable killing machines just for survival.
That scene when the cop gives his gun to Kyle Reiss was a good one. It could have been used for the film. The other scenes were good too. The one when they mentioned hot dogs would have not been necessary at all. Anyways, the film turned out great without these scenes, but these deleted scenes are interesting.
Mart Mördermarder No I mean the action so was so much more frequent and exciting in the others. THere was good action in the first 2 but too much talking. Plus Not having Linda Hamilton in the others was nice. Also that hot Terminator chick in the 3rd one was the best part of the franchise. I mean she stuck her hand right through people in cars. The first one was so stupid.
Sly88Frye No whats important to making a good movie is to make action so good that you don't need a story line. Then it's much more entertaining. Reviewers don't know shit and neither do you. T3, T4, and T5 are the best. I'm going to make movies like that.
The scene where Arnold calmly walks away after shooting that woman in cold blood should have stayed. It really bugs me that it was cut. More than the other scenes.
Reggie Centeno Well it's usually for pacing reasons but I don't think that slowed the movie down at all. I'd love a alternate cut of the movie on a blu-ray with the standard edition. See no reason why we can't have that. T2 blu-ray has 3 damn cuts of the movie. That's how you do it.
3:11 this part really shows how competent and inspired Sarah actually was. And Reese's moving display of sadness really shows the depths of despair humans live in the future. The theatrical version makes them both seem less than what they really are. It make Reese look like a dumb soldier and Sarah a mostly helpless dame in distress. They really should have included that part.
Matter of fact, it's staggering just how much this scene foreshadows T2. Both Sarah's starting to try and prevent Judgment Day and taking on a more aggressive, proactive personality, as well as Reese's breakdown. What he says about the world as it is in the 80s is JUST, exactly, the way Sarah comes to see the world around her by T2; she sees everything around her as already gone, and witnessing any trace of beauty (such as the Salcedas playing with their baby) is enough to drive her mad with grief at how all of that will soon be destroyed.
There won't be any Terminator movie ever better than the original T1 1984 , greetings Arnold, Linda, Michael, and all its lovely actors ❤ , beautiful era, wonderful time, much better than nowadays...
The scene when Kyle breaks down and cries, is a fantastic and moving scene... but in terms of the context of the film. Before the love scene, Kyle says pain can be shut off, meaning he learnt to disconnect himself from a lot of his emotions. I think it was right in some ways they deleted it, because he had to be strong for Sarah Connor. Though I'd probably would have had him shed a tear when looking out of the window before the love scene. Then wiping it away before turning to Sarah...
In most cases sure you can disconnect the pain, but those pesky human emotions have a way to pull a complete systems override out of the blue. Factory defaults can be so irksome.
@MarceloMedeiros-iv2xi He was overtaken by everything, I think. Seeing a world he never knew and was never supposed to, as well as being presented with the very possibility of even trying to stop it all from happening. That very morning was completely unknown territory for him; he probably never thought beyond saving Sarah from the Terminator, much less thought about just what they could possibly do with their knowledge of the future. He'd been following orders all his life and being extremely good at it, yet now he was faced with the same "dark road" as Sarah in T2... If he hadn't died (assuming it wasn't absolutely predestined), who's to say he wouldn't have probably given Sarah's plan a shot? No fate, right?
All this helps to add some more elements to the story of the film lacking from the general release... -The concern that the cops had for Sarah's safety when she's taken by Reese, and Traxler coming around to believing Reese's story. -Exploring more of Reese's humanity and how Sarah eventually comes around to loving him. -The real reason why Reese and Sarah made the pipebombs, instead of using them to deter the Terminator. -Setting up things to come for Judgement Day with the remains of the T-800 found by Cyberdyne.
I always liked the Traxler character, they should have kept those extra scenes in. And the Cyberdyne reveal at the end is perfect with that ominous theme.
***** I forget which stage of the film this is supposed to be at. I don't think it would sound so out of place in the latter stages when she's accepted the situation.
Because it showed Sarah's transformation too soon. Remember, she was a helpless kitten in this film until that pivotal moment when she snapped and told an injured Reese to get on his feet, Soldier. If Sarah becomes more hardened and driven and Reese shows his weakness in the field scene, then they basically become equals in the mission. That shouldn't happen. We can't see any weakness in Reese so that when he dies, Sarah can be completely affected because her protector is gone and she must now fight for herself. This is why the climax is so much more effective. She's not just fighting the final fight. She's transformed into a fighter right before our eyes. With all that sub-plot cut, Cyberdyne remains a mysterious entity and doesn't raise any extra questions. If this movie was made without the intention of a sequel, which it was, then there's no need for the guy to find the chip. Remember, this was a very low budget film ($6.4 million) made by The Hemdale Film Company, an outfit that hadn't really done much before this film. There was no plan for a sequel.
In 1984 no one wanted to watch a man cry about plants. Even now I think the scene would elicit some gigges, but back then? No fucking way. Great acting, and a great scene, but a proper decision to cut it at the time.
Agreed. I always found it a little off that Kyle would not be somewhat is shock between the two environments, soldier or not. I mean, skulls on the ground vs. flowers..you notice that I think. Great scene though..glad it was thought about at least.
ChiefAnator 117 that is your opsion it dos not suck to me or many people like said it was canfroemd james cant get the rights back tell 2019 anrold said holylwood is maeking t6 so get over it
well I won't buy the horrible crap they shovel out just like Ghostbusters, Star Wars The Force Awakens and Independence Day Resurgence they all are terrible and they are nothing on the original/classics
ChiefAnator 117 the only one I agree with yyou on is ghsotbutser that shit sucked the new movie is hrobble but stars wasr epsidoe 7 fans like it many fans like some with t5 so that that
@@mrsam1999 I love how it all falls into place as well, she looses one man but finds another who's so much more valuable to her. What makes this love story so different to all the others and why I love it so much is because it's a love story between two vastly different people who are out of synch, out of place, out of time but fall in love under extreme circumstances due to the gratitude and care they share with each other, Sarah expresses her gratitude for Kyle having saved her, and Kyle expresses his gratitude for Sarah being the first person he can finally open up to emotionally and confess his feelings to, and because of this, an intimacy slowly starts to build and they end up falling in love by the end.
@@aus_liam444 I also think that Sarah's love for him blossomed from a profound desire to protect him and save him. In the first deleted scene of the Tiki Hotel, she mentions how there's so much for him to see and that she wants him to have that. And even when Kyle, her protector, was badly injured when they were in the factory, she forced him to stand abd keep moving. She needed to protect him and save him like he did for her. And Kyle, well, he's always admired her. Like he said, he loved her always... So even though they were only together for a few hours, they lived a love of a lifetime. One of my favorite quotes from Sara Connor
Why can't James Cameron make an extended cut with the deleted scenes restored like the T2 extreme edition?? All these scenes are outstanding, really adds more character development, and gives us a tease of what to come. Instead of focusing on the shitty Avatar sequels, make an extended cut for The Terminator, Cameron!
The extended execution of the wrong Sarah, the revelation and the death of Traxler, Kyle's breakdown, and the very ending were scenes worthy of keeping in the movie. The rest of it was properly dumped, though, as it would have slowed the pace of the film down too much and provided little in return.
Kyle never truly ate food. All he ate were rations no wonder he was so confused seeing snacks, hearing hot dogs, drinks, everything. A future generation torn to shreds by older decisions
They should release a "Terminator: Extended Cut" DVD with some of these scenes in here. Because they explain a whole lot especially how the last one sets up the sequel.
@@spacewarrior100 I noticed something strange, in the Dark Horse comic Terminator Tempest it has two cyberdyne guys that look awfully identical to the ones in this deleted scene and the comic is a direct sequel close to the original
@@spacewarrior100 I don't think so, beyond that the comic came out in 1990 and I doubt they got deleted footage since the only info they got was a novelization in which the two guys were named Greg Simmons and Jack Kroll but in the comic they have different names it just seems like a big mystery or a coincidence
10 MINUTES??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? If this all the deleted scenes it's really shitty they left a lot of this out, a lot of this actually helped the story and gave the characters more depth and you're really going to tell me people can't afford to sit in a theater for 10 more minutes when they already expect to be there for more then an hour? I especially like how the cop who handed Reese the gun during the police station shootout. He put all the pieces together, from the T-800 getting shot with shotgun several times and smashing the window all the way to where he saw one man (Machine) was wiping out his entire station of 30 or more cops. Not to mention Reece's breakdown shows how much of the world he never got to see and how amazing life can be without living in fear of being vaporized by lasers in seconds with no chance to mourn his lost comrades and loved ones so he could keep fighting. I honestly wish I could've seen Reece survive to see him live a life he never got to have with proper food, a place to sleep and actually be happy to be alive because he would live knowing the war he was born into has a chance to be stopped and all the deaths and lost lives would never happen. It probably wouldn't cure his PTSD because he live through it but who knows what could've happened. I am probably over thinking this too much but that's what happens good story telling and good acting pulls you in and makes you care about people who don't even exist.
i really liked the scenes where Traxler firstly doubts whether Reese is insane or not, and then finally believes him. the scene where Kyle's crying is unfortunately bad acting, no wonder it wasn't included in the final cut
That's because you don't understand the scene. Think about it. Kyle tells Sarah that destroying Cyberdyne is not his mission. There's deep meaning behind his devotion and dedication to protecting Sarah. She has YET to give birth to John Conner. Without John existing, he wouldn't ever exist. After intercepting Sarah, he tells her that being in the past is like a dream. And only in that dream are there things beautiful. Nature, Sarah, no wars, etc, etc... As much as he wants it to be real and to be permanent, he knows that isn't the truth. Somehow his is a premonition to T3 in which no matter what futile efforts were made, the Terminators are an inevitability.
one scene here shoud of stayed in the film, the way kyle resse brakes down and cry is very emotional i feel for him. one or two other scenes yes, the rest no.
The scene where Sara sees cyberdyne systems address and suggest to below it up then freaks out when Kyle says no, makes so much sense because in T2 she got arrested for trying to blow it up then does it at the end.
Same here.. it was mind blowing watching them. T1 is my favorite movie of all time. It was like watching a piece of my past in the future or something.. very weird feeling.
The only scene Cameron should have left in is the very last one where they show the Cyberdyne company....It would have set the 2nd movie up very nicely....
Another interesting moment here is when Linda/Sarah says "Wherever you go, you take the war with you". In the deleted ending to T2 where Judgement Day never happens, old Sarah is talking into her voice recorder and says something like "Even though Judgement Day never happened, it still does for me in my mind, and I carry it like a nightmare".
Look at how calmly these scenes are shot. The picture is not instantly changing between fifteen different cameras. It makes the experience so much better.
The one thing that never set right with me about the original movie was the fact that there was a crushed endoskeleton in that hydraulic press yet nobody in the world but Sarah and cyberdyne knows anything
Man I find the scene where Sarah's talking about everyday stuff with Kyle so impactful, she becomes the voice of the audience, it's so difficult to comprehend the privation and terror that he's lived through all of his life. The bit where he picks up on hot dogs amongst all the other things Sarah lists is interesting, I guess in his mind Dogs' principle purpose is to spot Terminators, who knows what he was picturing when he heard it? What is a hot dog? Why is the dog hot? Is the hotness of the dog conducive to the mission? By what means does the dog achieve hotness?
I caught that too. When they were searching for a hotel room, Kyle flashes a wad of cash and asks if it's enough. He's familiar with economic meltdown and paper money being nearly worthless. Kyle never talks about movies, TV, books, literature, or poetry. All he knows is machines and war. Great writing.
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You can see why all of these were cut. Great decision by James.
"The guys a wacko, right?" "He better be" I can understand them leaving that scene out, but I do like the idea of the lieutenant considering for a moment the future Reese described and if he wasn't crazy how screwed they'd be.
People would complain that seeing Kyle cry made him a weaker character, but let's stop for a second. The guy was born in a world torn apart by nukes and grew up knowing nothing but the war against machines. He had no idea what the world looked like before the war, his only link to it was an old picture. His breakdown happened because he saw how the world was indeed beautiful, and the horrible realization that the war he fought was still coming.
Jackw00pw00p2 what a beautiful way to justify those whom deny toxic masculinity
h adb You feminist are everywhere spouting your nonsense but that's toxic femininity for everyone
Gambit771 I'm not spreading tixic behaviour like saying one sex is better than the other I'm just sayimg crying made Kyle more stronger from opening up and showing his weakest state.
h adb No you was spouting nonsense about toxic masculinity.
You never talked about crying and whatnot only used the op's comment to spread your feminist nonsense and attack masculinity.
That's toxic behaviour.
2 finger's dry
In the deleted scene about Cyberdyne, Kyle says "Nah, that's tactically dangerous."
In Terminator 2 when they go to stop Sarah from killing Dyson, the T-800 says "This is tactically dangerous."
A callback to a scene nobody saw. Another parallel between the movies and characters. I love it.
Yep. Love the parallelisms between the films.
In T2 someone asks Miles where'd he get the chip and he answers 'When I asked them the same question, they told me, Don't ask'. Same exact exchange happens in Aliens between two corporate workers
And Kyle was right! Sarah's actions in the sequel only resulted in the creation of an EVEN more powerful version of Skynet in Terminator 3. One WITHOUT a system core to blow up!
@@Facade953I’m gonna pretend that one doesn’t exist
@@Facade953 No
Reese: "I wasn't meant to see this!"
Me: "Me neither, because these are deleted scenes"
+Daved the Dude not deleted scenes, TERMINATED scenes....lol.
+veganath 😂😂😂
veganath 👍👏Clever!
That is sooooooooo funny!!!!!!
smart ass lol
These deleted scenes make kyle’s death that more sad.
Tragic
Saddest scene ever in The Terminator
Really it did
Bro! Spoiler alert warning huh???
What makes it worse is we find out that where they ended up was Cyberdyne! Wasn’t that the building they blew up with Miles Dyson in T2?! *X files theme plays*
That one scene where Sarah talks about Cyberdyne is the first time that Sarah shows that assertive and aggressive side. Sarah Conner in T1 and T2 are two completely different people. In T1 Sarah's an average girl, in T2 Sarah's a freaking soldier.
I wonder what would've happened if Kyle was alive in t2. I wonder if he would've supported the way sarah turned out.
Steve Vigilante Most likely he would have seen her becoming so cold even to her own son and try to stop it.
@@antman1001000 that sounds like something Kyle would do
@@stevevigilante9944 I Wish that Arnold S. was President, At Least He would've Been Better Then Donald Trump, and At Least We won't have to go through any Impeachment BullS**t anymore too.
@@sallymiller9147 trump has been a fine president, Anrold doesn't want to.
The entire post-apocalypse genre is built on the knowledge of the pre-apocalypse then seeing the post. Kyle saw it in reverse. That scene was incredible. Pacing aside it will brilliant seeing a man born into a nuclear blasted hellscape being hunted by killer machines seeing and hearing real nature for the first time. Amazing writing.
good call!
Nuclear war would destroy major cities and most forest areas would be intact. To kill all the forests would make the planet unbreathable
so its dumb to say the whole world would be a desert
Yeah all these years I was pissed that all we saw of Kyle looking at this lost world was that one snippet of him walking in the morning after they slept in the tunnel. I had always wished there was a scene where he expressed wonder and awe at the beauty of nature and this was written beautifully, but sadly the acting wasn't quite up to snuff and the lighting made them both look terrible. It's too bad they didn't have the budget to do unlimited takes until it looked right because this scene really deserved to be in the film to flesh out the tragic quality of Reese's mission.
Well those people are idiots.
Amazing scene
Gotta love Michael Biehn's performance as Kyle. He's strong and confident, but also shy and fragile in some respects.
he crushes this and Tombstone
@@rickwagner3797 also as the soldier in Aliens.
@@damienholland8103 To me Hicks is basically the same character
Sadly, he always dies in his roles.
@@christianaguiare544 maybe you know this but he was meant to be because James Remar was given the role in Aliens but lost it because he was caught with drugs and on short notice James Cameron got Michael Biehn and said we'll basically have his character more or less the same as The Terminator.
T1 casually returning to his car after broad daylight MURDER was chilling. I would have kept that in the movie. He was a ruthless SOB. Great film!
swear to god it was in the original VCR release ( In Australia at least )
Nah the car he got in didn't fit the scene it was off
I like seeing that children’s toy pop out from under the wheel;)
Was in the movie for me in my region.
I swear i saw all these scenes. Must've been special edition. In any case, I'm glad it's the only version I saw. All these scenes add so much and it's clear that they were only cut due to executive meddling
One could feel the love relationship between Sarah and Kyle is kind of gratuitous, but after watching these very intimate scenes between them one begins to understand why she fell so hard for him. This is not only a love story about a girl falling for her savior, it's about a woman who sympathizes with the deep sorrow of a desperate man.
Esteban Mata Vargas You said it perfectly.
+Esteban Mata Vargas
It's also a story about a boy falling for his goddess, the woman he's worshipped since he was a youth, without any hope of ever knowing her. It's about a man who encounters the impossible paradise of a woman at once unreal and suddenly more real than he would have sworn possible. I think that's where the intensity of that daylight scene comes from. It's not just the world that's gone - _she's_ gone as well. He comes from the future, but she lives here in the present, and she never makes it to his world, and I think here is where he makes that connection. _She_ is part of _here_, and _here_ is gone. In a very real way then, _she does not exist._ This is serious "one false move and you lose your mind" territory. He is utterly, utterly unmoored in this moment, and her designation as his target is the only thing keeping him alive. Of all the kamikaze missions I've heard of, this one has to be the most badass, I swear.
Perfectly explained.
Serai3 I completely agree with you. I hope some day someone will shot a spin off about how Kyle pictured Sarah during the days of deeply despair in their war against Skynet. It could actually a nice animated short film.
thank you so much, Stephanie
When you watch scenes like the one in which Sarah runs from Kyle and he talks about how he doesn't belong in this time, you have to wonder why Michael Biehn didn't become a much bigger film star. That was some heavy shit right there.
And Linda Hamilton was exceptional in T2, she should have been a huge star too.
hyperdeath84 Absolutely! Such a powerful scene - shame it didn't make it in the final cut. Glad to see it 30 years later!! lol!
Thomas Conyers Damn, that sucks. I always wondered why her career didn't take off more - plenty of people smoke a lot of cigarettes so there must be more to it than that.
hyperdeath84 Linda married into money. She wed James Cameron. I supposed that killed her career l.
JONZUN Seems like a waste of talent. She was a very gifted actress and Sarah Connor is still the benchmark by which I measure cinematic heroines.
I've never seen these deleted scenes before; to me, they add depth to the love story, making it easier to see how they fell in love.
Sizeet i think that,the tickiling scene was very important for the plot !
***** You're right.. there's no fate but what we make for ourselves............
Tickling the PTSD soldier dude seems like a bad idea. . .the black cop believing Kyle's story just seems .. unrealistic to me so I'm glad they cut that too. But the other scenes are quite wonderful. And the one where Sarah is talking about taking Reese to Disneyland actually is so incredibly fucking depressing because you know how awesome his life would be with the literal love of his life, raising John Connor together..FUCK that's heartbreaking.
Sizeet exactly
@@fart-scentedthong5401 What do you by "bad idea"?
I always liked Lt. Traxler. The movie shows he is really a good hearted cop. It's like he lives literally by the rules 'to protect & to serve'.
My favorite scene of Traxler is when he says "give me a cigarette," and there is already one in his hand. I think we've all had days like those 😂
He comes across as a jaded unfit boozebag😂 Those eyes certainly ain't just from coffee😂
Also he seems to be the only one who doesn't make Kyle look like an idiot.
Sadly, he had ZERO credibility with Sarah..oh, you're in a crowded club, you'll be fine....oh, he's not bulletproof, he was just wearing body armor....oh, you're in a police station surrounded by cops, you'll be fine....
Poor guy was wrong after wrong after wrong....
@@Claudia-lq3nsdidn't he also slurp a cup of coffee that was 12 hours old AND someone had put a cigarette out in it???
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They shouldn't cut the black cop scene, it looks touching for me, at least he understood that Kyle was right
I agree with you !!
yeah that was a good scene
Defo
but there's no way anyone with a sensible mind would take such a premise at face value so quickly. even if it was actually true.
I know! All other scenes are ok. The ones about Sarah wanted to destroy Cyberdyne are cool if you look at this movie in a self-contained manner, but it doesn't work too good with the sequel. However the cop scene is the only one that I truly feel sorry about every time I watch the movie.
mrnonsense1031 The cop doesn't believe him right away, I mean he only considered it a possibility, due to how convinced he sounded, however when the Terminator did show up, he suddenly believed everything.
Omg Sarah Connor wanted to blow up Cyberdyne Systems already in Terminator 1? This is awesome! Why they deleted this scene?!
crizzl To make another movie.
And to prevent it from being too long.
@Artificial245 Agreed, the scene was not good at all and it was very wise to delete, he pointed a gun at her for no apparent reason and then they both cry like babies it's bizarre and out of place.
It is very interesting! that scene combined with the final cyberdyne scene setup a lot for Terminator 2 that I am shocked was in Terminator 1.....!!......but it's almost as if they didn't want to take away from the first movie by making it the classic "here comes the sequel before the movie's even over" ending.... so I think it was a good move! But I'm blown away that the T2s plot was already in there.. but I still like that they took this out... my world would be quite different if not........
also it appears that just like any classic time paradox, cyberdyne was actually not an innovator in the technology.... it ended up being that because Sarah took the "false" clue from the future that it would be productive to go to their lab.......but thanks to that, that's where the Terminator ended up being destroyed and is the only reason they ended up with the technology from the Terminator from the future...... leading us to the same set up in T2
My guess time
So I am a straight guy. But I think Michael Biehn in the 80s was a very good looking guy. Anyone else agree?
paytizzle
What any average sized guy wouldn't give to be in that condition...Notice the reviews the women here are giving it.
Woofter
If he saved me from the terminator I’d like him too!
I'm an asexual person and I think Michael Biehn was a fucking bombshell. I just watched a very sweet movie (I think it was his film debut) called Coach. I still have misgivings about it because it's basically Lolita with the genders reversed, a 30something female basketball coach is on the down low with a beautiful high school boy. But I couldn't help but find it funny and charming. Biehn starts off as the only one in his circle of friends without a girlfriend (even though he's the fairest one of all lol) and his performance feels very innocent, then very cheeky and sassy. It's the movie I've seen him smile the most in. Jabberwocky!
Hell yes, such a handsome sexy man. I already saw that at a young age when I saw this movie for the first time
The scene where a mortally wounded Lt Traxler tells Reese to take care of Sarah is really interesting. I know there's been some speculation as to what was really happening but it could simply be that although he doesn't necessarily believe Kyle's story about the terminator and time travel, he does understand that someone is determined to kill her, no matter the cost and that Kyle is equally determined to protect her.
If you watch the scene previous he seems skeptical of Reese.
Dude, this guy shoot in the T-800 head, and he see how continue alive. Of course he belives Reese.
@@piloto88ed not only that, he saw the soul less thing that was in front of him
@@AustraliaUnmasked1984 He actually seemed more open to Reese than the others. He seemed to be contemplating the possibility that Reese was telling the truth. In any event, whatever his doubts, seeing the Terminator wipe through his entire force erased his doubts and made him realize the truth.
There's no way one man could shoot up thirty armed people without ending up dead himself. That fact alone would convince Traxler!
These deleted scenes answer a lot of questions about Terminator 2.
I think so, then terminator 2 shows up.
Holy crap right? Like Sarah was already thinking about how to prevent the war? T1 and T2 are the only real Terminator films staying true to their original idea; all the rest have been cash grab.
Dumb fools ridiculing Reese's tear. The character clearly never seen scenery like this in his lifetime before being sent in time. All he ever remembered was war after war after war. Carnage and survival is his life.
Dude doesn't even shower, let alone being able to sleep for even an hour. If he can, explosions, loud shouts and gun fire are his lullaby. The reaction when he pulled the gun on Sarah when she struck him says a lot about his character as well. Kyle is a walking PTSD.
Then you got Genysis Kyle who look like a body builder, slept well, shaved, ate everyday, and questions a lot. He's literally the opposite version of the worn battle Kyle from this one. So yeah, it makes perfect sense that original Kyle Reese has finally breathed fresh air for the first time ever that is not filled with dust and human ash in his lungs.
This scene would have giving his character alot of sympathy. He had never seen the grass or trees. Stuff we see on a daily basis. I myself love to take strolls through the woods every now and then. I couldn't imagine living a life where all of that was gone forever, so seeing Kyle break down seeing it all for the first time in this scene, was very sad and just shows we take things for granted. I know its a movie but that little bit of footage was a powerful scene.
He pooned her fish taco.
He luckiest man on galaxy.
Over.
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@@iliafigueroa4820pftthaha 😆👍🏻
Genesys is the WORST CRAP MOVIE EVER MADE. Terminatos is 1 and 2. The Others are Garbage
Damn the cop actually believed him
The cop had 2 big regrets. The reason why he gave a civilian his gun. Powerful stuff.
He die anyways
Seeing will do that.
Sheymanyyou
Okay gizmo@@MunkyRey
Lt Traxler is a true legend for being the only cop in the station to lend a hand to Reese.
Sarah and Kyle are so damn cute in that scene where she tickles him. They should have kept it, it's not even very long
They wanted to show a non emotional film, unfortunately.
@@LauRa-re9un That’s not true! I’ve listened to every minute of producer/director commentary out there. We’ll never know all the nuances of why each deleted scene got scrapped, but it’s meant to be very emotional.
@@Ratchet299 I read it somewhere. The emotional parts were erased, specially Kyle´s ones.
@@LauRa-re9un IKR their relationship makes me wanna cry. It was so short but so beautiful I wish they added this clip to make their time together a little longer
Agreed. I actually liked all these scenes, but the tickling one is particularly funny, touching and just plain adorable. I love Kyle and Sarah together.
7:21 Kyle is like: "They actually ate dogs in the past?"
and sarah never explained to him what a hotdog is. poor kyle had a different understanding of a hotdog even up to his death
*chinese people have entered the chat*
@@itsGdublanLMAO I was just waiting for someone to mention that
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Lol!
Michael Biehn is literally the most perfect Kyle Reese. The scene where he cries is the most humane moment he would’ve ever had. But I think they made the right choice leaving it out. I think him being portrayed as keeping his mind on the mission + having that one sexual scene with Sarah is the most realistic route they could’ve taken. The scene Traxler died telling Kyle Sarah has to stay alive should’ve been kept in I felt.
They should've left it in, we're seeing a side of Kyle that's humane and deep. Being born into a post apocalyptic world and then seeing a fantasy is raw beauty. It doesn't hurt the other aspects of his character at all...
@JakkuWolf Insomnia You gotta stop saying literally.
@@mkultra2456 I said it once lol
@@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 And you misused it.
@@mkultra2456 I’m misusing my right to free literacy?
Traxler was an experienced detective, and he could tell quickly if someone is lying or not. He sensed that Reese was likely telling the truth. They should have at least kept that scene in as well as the last one in front of Cyberdyne Systems.
Yeah, it wouldnt add that much to the runtime but would make the character more interesting, in comparison to everyone else thinking that Reese is crazy. I think more scenes with Reese in gneral should remain like daytime with him grieving how of all of nature and beauty will be gone. The more time they have together the better before the ending, making his death more impactful.
@@Kacpa2 I agree. I think we've all seen deleted scenes from movies and wondered why the heck they've removed them. Seen a couple where I felt they were right and would have added nothing to the film, or even unneeded complexity to the story.
@@valentinius62 True but sometimes filmmakers just make a very bad call or include pointless things in place of more important scenes. For example Hobbit the battle of five armies even in extended editions ommitted emotional scenes like full funeral for Thorin with Gandalf's speech, or quite pivotal scenes like Gandalf confronting Thranduil that his son is far more important gift and reminder of his wife than some gems he had dwarves make for her.
Instead extended edition had more of stupid scenes.
Compare that to deleted scenes reinstated in Lord of the Rings its just more of important scenes to tie up plot threads like death of Saruman, or more scenes from the books like heorns after battle of Helms Deep, or Houses of healing scenes between Eowyn and Faramir, Mouth of sauron, all are the scenes from the book.
Only cut that was excessive but understandable was Scouring of the Shire, a very important part for the Hobbits, but movie was already too long.
@@valentinius62 Filmmakers don't delete scenes the film producers do they get final say of how the product should be not the director
@MarceloMedeiros-iv2xi He is lying dead in the factory. And his body is taken away at the end. Its done for e rrason to how how fragile we are compared to terminators. Wasnalreadybbadly injured as they entered the factory.
This him crying scene was powerful and touching..
I think Kyle's breakdown should have been left in.
yeah totally right. It made him more human
True, that scene would've given the two an actual goal instead of them just running from the terminator I mean obviously they would've had to face him at some point and I think a final confrontation with the terminator would've been more appropriate at cyberdyne systems by trying to stop judgement day themselves with the terminator being the only thing in their way.
So thats basically where Sarah decided to destroy Skynet by blowing up Cyberdyne. All Sarah - Kyle extra scenes should have stayed in the main cut
@@meshugeah No, she made that decison 10 years later. Leaving those scenes in the final cut would've changed the plot significantly.
true tho
That 20 second scene where the black cop says "he better be" should have stayed in. It's pretty chilling to see an outside party consider how horrifying the Skynet scenario really is
That shoulda stayed for sure.
I love first two T movies, second one has for me really better audiovisuals, but damn.. i miss Kyle so much. He wears bandages, he is scared, he is feeling pain, he is confused, wounded and now, i see him crying. How organic and authentic he is. Badass. One of the best characters i ever met in any movie.
It is interesting. The character you describe, this organic and authentic individual, is the exact opposite of everything the T-800 represents.
Yeshh
He's in the directors cut of T2 incase you ain't seen it
And they got Jai Courtney to play him in that terrible requel They didn't give a flying fuck about making that movie.
Biehn brought out the character
Terminator 1 and 2 were the best ones. Everyone knows this. Something bad happened from 3 onward...
+Damien Holland
Yeah - Cameron left. It was always his baby, and when he scarpered it fell apart.
+Damien Holland I couldn't agree more!! T1 will always be my fav
3 was good...
+Zoltan Csikos agree i enjoyed watching Terminator
1 2 & 3
3 became a sort of parody. 1 and 2 has a real message in it. It's criticism of society and Politics, Cameron signature.
That scene with Kyle Reese crying and the message of ‘No fate but what we make for ourselves’ is so goooood. Powerful scene
This one scene has more dramatic weight than the last three Terminator movies combined...
"Sarah Connor?"
"No?"
"Oh."
* awkward silence *
"Can you call her?"
"Who are you?"
"A friend"
Awkward silence....shoots her anyway
@@Mafon2 ..and what's your name?
...Paxley....
They can detect if a person is lying by blood pressure.
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When I was in the Marines, I saw that same look in the eyes of other young men that had seen too much death.
Kyle portrays that very accurately.
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Lol are you referencing Traxler's line in the novel, where he says something exactly like this?
@@albertomartinez714 Fuck no, I'm referencing my own personal experience.
@@albertomartinez714 If he was quoting, he would have put in quotation marks.
@@thisyoutubehandleisdumbasfuck Yeah but I said he was referencing; I've read the book and know the quote so knew he wasn't quoting. It's on page 151 where Traxler says "Some of those 'Nam special-forces guys had that look." I'm guessing Ryan would have been in Iraq/Afghanistan and not 'Nam, although I suppose it's possible. Sadly not many of those guys left.
What scares me most are those who don't feel the pain from it. Those who relish, they get high off it, those who join the armed services or law enforcement for all the wrong reasons, because deep down they _want_ to hurt and kill people. They exist, and they're horrifying AF.
You see this “dark fate”? This is what you destroyed
@Alec Hinshaw ha
I liked dark fate
@@nikosalexopoulos8697 lol how
@@Liamnerfdude1 me too i like it
@@prpwnage9296 why??? I haven't seen it but can you explain why you liked it..Do you think its' good though cause i've just heard a majority of people dislike it..hahah and some plot points i read about hahah
I love that Sarah was ready to take action against Cyberdyne! Fits in so well with the determination that her character had in the second movie. Wish they would of left that in.
When I was a kid I was glad they cut the crying scene because I thought action characters shouldn't cry, as an adult I wish they kept that scene because no matter how tough Kyle Reese is, his humanity and compassion is what separates him from the machines.
Michael Beihn is such an underrated actor
He proved it in this original one.
Sometimes less is more.
These deleted scenes show us James Cameron crystal clear vision of what he wanted from this film.
He left them out as they were unnecessary and didn't bring anymore to the story line. However the level of thought to cover all bases of human emotion is astounding.
A brilliant Film, a brilliant story, brilliant character development, brilliant acting, brilliant attention to detail, everything about this film is brilliant!!
It's a shame everything out of Hollywood these days is utter drivel.
aprilia7 too bad he's become the new George Lucas after making avatar :/
aprilia7 I don't think they were confident enough to green light a sequel. Otherwise they would have left those Cyberdyne scenes in.
+dtadeo2006
Instant sequels were not yet a thing back in 1984. And this wasn't a huge film. The studio didn't have any confidence in it - the only thing that kept Cameron safe from studio rewriting bullshit was the low-budget guerilla nature of it.
+rainxxxx
Well, there's an unsurprisingly simplistic and naive view of movies.
+aprilia7 this has more gore & violence but for a reason, and today most of it is trivial stuff, especially hollywood.
The scene where Sarah looks up Cyberdyne and wants to take them down, and the finishing shot of them should both be included on a special edition or something. It makes the stuff with Cyberdyne in T-2 look less coincidental, and also adds a layer to the backstory of Sarah getting locked up.
You do know you could edit them in don't you? Do it yourself
Idk, I think T2 handled the Cyberdyne stuff fine.
In my view they should have kept almost all of these scenes. It is only about 9 more minutes, and most of the scenes added a nice little extra bit to the story and the narrative overall.
These cut sequences needed bridging scenes in order to integrate well with the theatrical version. Those connective shots may not have been filmed.
Chu Kim you don't understand... nobody believed in that cheap movie made by the young director... nobody cared... only God knew it would be one of the most legendary movie in the history of cinema
The great thing about this film is it's constant pacing and tension. I think some of that would have been lost adding these.
No most of these scenes change your view of the characters in a negative way.
Julian David Hoffer which ones. I don’t feel this way at all. I’m not saying your opinions wrong, I’m just curious. What scenes do you mean?
God, seeing him break down is heart breaking. I will never understand this idea of "Real men don't cry or show feelings." This man has suffered in ways none of these "real men" had ever suffered. Imagine living a life of eternal war, growing up knowing how to fight just as you learn to speak or read a all but futile war against a relentless enemy in a world seemingly endless in twilight, then being taken to a time before all that. You'd be in a alien world untouched by the horrors you witness, but burdened with the knowledge it will be lost in the coming years.
I think even the strongest of men or women would break from that.
It's probably first time he could allow himself to cry to.
In today's media, most "strong women" NEVER cry 😂 Because they're meant to be "manly" 😂 Days of creative writing are long gone. Thats why the 80s and 90s and early 2000s have the gems.
Yes men cry too but not nearly as often as women, for way more serious reasons and often do it alone.
"Real men don't cry or show feelings"... that is a saying that I don't agree with.
I believe that we as human beings have feelings and cry when we're hurt or something else. As a man myself, I have moments when I cry or get my feelings hurt or tested. But how I deal with it is what makes the difference from being a strong willed man and being a vulnerable man. Even the male species is just as prone to many things as the female species is. It's not always easy being the strong willed leader your party needs you to be, your greatest strength can also be greatest weakness.
You said it very well actually.
Man Michael Biehn is so fine in this movie, i loved the role he played
Thank goodness, he was chosen to do Kyle reese and not Arnold schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger was supposed to do reese.
Really great to hear Sarah herself say the "there's no fate but the fate we make for ourselves' line - in this scene from the original, when she's talking about blowing up Cyberdyne. Which plays a key part in the second, when she carves it into wood and goes to blow it up. And the quote is what makes John realise that's what she's gone off to do. So this scene included in the original, would have given that scene so much more power and meaning in the second!
Almost. In T2, John says he told his dad in the future to say that to his mum in the past so she could tell John once he was old enough. Here, Sarah said it to Kyle, which contradicts what John said. It could have worked with a bit of rewording but it'd be better if Kyle said it to her. Obviously, James Cameron didn't know what'd happen in T2 when he filmed this scene - he's a genius but he doesn't know any real time travellers.
The extra scenes between Kyle and Sarah are incredibly powerful, it was a shame they cut them, it ads a whole new dimension to the story.
Kyle crying should have been in the movie. Imagine how much trauma he has and how even seeing grass would tear him apart. Fantastic moment.
The tickling scene was cute, but her laugh was creepy. They should have kept in the "Cyberdine Systems" reveal in.
Her laugh reminded me of a biker chick at bar with L&M menthol cigarette in her hand.. hahahaha
are you real
your comment cracked me up. I Love Linda but the scene was awkward, lol.
@IMxYOURxDADDY wtf
Thank you. Yes, very harsh and nasty.
The best ones were the one about Cyberdyne and the one where Kyle and Sara talk about stopping the war and how Kyle views Sara's world as a fairytail!That was a very emotional scene!
That's amazing. I've never seen the first movie's deleted scenes.
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Kyle looks like a kid lost in a shopping mall. It’s heartbreaking.
More like a big outdoor swapmeet.
Makes me sad that he died, but his mission was complete, and it serves the story.
This poor man doesn't even know what a hot dog is!!
Imagine an alternate ending where Sarah Connor and Reese are hugging and kissing in front of the destroyed Schwarzenegger robot, just as a news reporter turns to them:
"So now that you have terminated the terminator, what do you plan to do next?"
Reese(turns towards the camera): "I'm going to Disneyland!!"
* "Back in time" music from Back to the future plays as screen goes dark
What a twist! xD
He's a cyborg not a robot.
Md Ray He is a robot, but not a cyborg. He is an android to be more specific. There are different types of robots. Like, different shapes for example. You can have a spherical robot, rectangular robot, cubic robot, etc. etc. Robots that resemble humans specifically are called androids (andro-, ex. androphobia = fear of men (males), andro adding as a man, meaning human). Cyborgs are humans by definition, that have robotic or mechanical parts. Ex. a man with a robotic leg, arm, heart, eye... Those are cyborgs (I think Marcus in Terminator Salvation is a cyborg as well, he had a human brain which is the main aspect of being a human while the rest of his body was robotic soooo yeaah). And before you say anything about the movie itself mentioning the terminator being a cyborg, the movie is wrong. By definition. I guess because "cyborg" sounds darker and more original for its time.
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Oh if Cameron did that the movie wouldn't be as great as it is
the scene where Traxler gives Reese his revolver should have stayed in for continuity purposes (not like it took up that much time)
I like how Traxler actually had a moment where he might have believed Reese after he was interrogated. It kinda made the scene where he gave Reese the gun more meaningful.
It did put the movie to an unnecessary halt when they are obviously in a rush to get away from the terminator. And you can already get a subtle hint that Traxler believes Kyle to a certain extent in the interrogation scene.
It was shot wrong because they were running and a stop there is akward. Should have been sneaking and been startled by Traxler or something instead. Its a nice little scene.
You want it because we love the Traxler, but his character is just not important enough to merit the attention, and though this is very sad, for we do love Paul Winfield, we accept it because we realize that Terminator is a more badass movie without it
I think it should have stayed in so the audience could see that he lived. Because at the end it looks like he could have survived his injuries
Shit why was that last scene cut? It leads directly to Terminator 2.
As phonebook scene does. These two are making a visible connection with T2. Before this video I thought that Cameron did not want to make a sequel. Because just without these scenes T1 is a complete movie. Which needs no sequel. My opinion, all of these scenes are so important...I can't believe they're not in the final movie cut
Sortsylic They could make a special edition like lucas did with SWep1 where a few of the deleted scenes are put back in.
Had the exact same thought when I saw it, but after thinking it over, it's better without the last two scenes. The reason is because it goes right from that point to the scene in the desert where we find out that Kyle is John's father. That's a great scene, because it deals with time travel issues by making it all a nice circle. The machines tried to kill John before he was born, but by doing that, they caused him to be created. There's no paradox - the time travel itself created the future that the time travelers came from. Very clever compared to most sci-fi that just sort of wings it with time travel and puts no thought into how its messing everything up.
But anyway, it you include the scenes with the guys talking about the chip or reveal that it was at Cyberdyne, then you would basically be pulling the same trick twice in a row in two minutes. Maybe audiences could have handled it, but it's just way cleaner without introducing that.
It works well in the sequel because it's its own movie where that issue is presented and developed as the its own focal point of discussion.
MP197742 Actually, there is a paradox; it's just a bootstrap paradox, rather than a grandfather paradox.
Stuart L John had to have a different father first obviously, or he wouldnt have met Kyle......
Respect to the editors who trim the fat and leave us with the best parts.
This is really great stuff, especially the part where it is revealed that the factory they broke into actually belonged to Cyberdine... This would mean that had Reece and the Terminator not been sent back through time then neither the saviour of the human race nor its nemesis could ever have existed in the first place. Brilliant
It says that in T2 anyway, in fairness.
no, all it did was speed the process along, in terminator, even in the crappy ones, they always say judgment day is inevitable
@@OmegaSaiyan92 Tell that to the deleted ending of Terminator 2 what I believe should've being kept in and be done with this series to be pure gold instead of well the rest crap.
nah the dude who made the chip would have done so anyway its why sarah went to kill him. Him becoming aware of everything made no difference either way. Skynets takeover and nuclear war is inevitable in the timeline iirc :(
The factory has very little connection to the phenomenon. It is said clearly in the final scene (in Mexico) that Sarah is pregnant abd Kyle is the father, so John wouldn exist without Skynet and time travel. With factory or without.
And in T2 we get to know that Cyberdyne made its processor using ideas and technology from first Terminators chip. Again, with factory of without.
So just to recap, if Arnold comes to your door and confirms your name... You have just become John / Jamie Smith.
*opens door* "Arnold: Charles Turner?
"Nah Man he moved out of here like five months ago. He's in Germany now. In Berlin I think."
Arnold promptly turns around and walks away
"Man that was too fucking easy. Why don't they do that in the movies!
@@rainyvideos3684 terminators have identify scan
@@darkwriter5758 Not before T3. T3 came out at a time with a lot things being available online and digital. Not so with T1 and T2. There's a reason why in T1 he uses a phone book and that's all he has until he comes across her drivers license. Same for T2 only it's a photo of John that the T-1000 sees and presumably the T-800 unless John showed him an old photo he had.
"he'd better be" scene is VERY strong for the perception of the movie...God why should they delete this scene
You know that deleted scene with the detective giving his gun to Kreese should have stayed in. It was almost the same shot and a perfect bookend to Miles Dyson staying behind to help them get away.
They should've kept the scene where Kyle cries when he looks at the plants. Such an emotional scene.
+Remy "Gambit" LeBeau Now he'll be living in a dream for the rest of his life(the mid credit of genisys is non canon since the sequel is canceled.)
The acting wasn't that good though...felt cheesy too...idea was, though.
+Leo Lim the sequels actually weren't officially cancelled so Genisys is def still canon, it was much better than the abomination that is Salvation anyhow
Who wouldn't shed a tear knowing the world was going to be f---d up in the future. But those scenes didn't fit in. Just like her standing up to him or that moment in bed. It took away from his mission and softened the movie. He had to be all business and she had to be submissive in that regard. I like those scenes but it adds a whole new element to the movie that isn't really part of the plot. It would have been easy to leave them in but so many movies add a love story. Why not not have one? They're nice and that's the problem because the Terminator isn't.
Geneysis is not canon period. Fuck that movie. Everything after Terminator 2 is not canon.
"We head out at 0200, that gives you four hours of sleep if you want." She never did get that sleep....
LOL! I know, that was a night of nights.
I feel sad for Reese
Why
@@priestgoober5160 why wouldn't you? Any normal person can tell he's got some serious shit going on.
@@priestgoober5160 Because he grew up in a goddamn post apocalyptic future living off of every little bit of scrap he could find in an irradiated wasteland, let alone endlessly fighting off near-unstoppable killing machines just for survival.
@@feeler6670 And that he gets killed in a timeline where he wasn’t born yet at the end of the movie.😭
Really liking all the extra Sarah and Kyle scenes. Especially the long one that leads to Kyle's crying. Beautiful.
That scene when the cop gives his gun to Kyle Reiss was a good one. It could have been used for the film. The other scenes were good too. The one when they mentioned hot dogs would have not been necessary at all. Anyways, the film turned out great without these scenes, but these deleted scenes are interesting.
Sly88Frye These first 2 movies sucked they got much better after the 2nd.
Mart Mördermarder No I mean the action so was so much more frequent and exciting in the others. THere was good action in the first 2 but too much talking. Plus Not having Linda Hamilton in the others was nice. Also that hot Terminator chick in the 3rd one was the best part of the franchise. I mean she stuck her hand right through people in cars. The first one was so stupid.
Sly88Frye No whats important to making a good movie is to make action so good that you don't need a story line. Then it's much more entertaining. Reviewers don't know shit and neither do you. T3, T4, and T5 are the best. I'm going to make movies like that.
Rob Hart Thanks for clearing telling me that you're a troll. Good bye!
+Tom Bellamy Tom Bellamy No.
The scene where Arnold calmly walks away after shooting that woman in cold blood should have stayed. It really bugs me that it was cut. More than the other scenes.
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Well it's usually for pacing reasons but I don't think that slowed the movie down at all. I'd love a alternate cut of the movie on a blu-ray with the standard edition. See no reason why we can't have that.
T2 blu-ray has 3 damn cuts of the movie. That's how you do it.
Yeah, bu the thing is, it is a little bit goofy that he didn't put away his gun.
I was laughing my ass of at that.
I swear i watched this movie as a kid but it had that cutscene in it
Agree. That alternate cut should’ve been kept.
3:11 this part really shows how competent and inspired Sarah actually was. And Reese's moving display of sadness really shows the depths of despair humans live in the future. The theatrical version makes them both seem less than what they really are. It make Reese look like a dumb soldier and Sarah a mostly helpless dame in distress. They really should have included that part.
Matter of fact, it's staggering just how much this scene foreshadows T2. Both Sarah's starting to try and prevent Judgment Day and taking on a more aggressive, proactive personality, as well as Reese's breakdown. What he says about the world as it is in the 80s is JUST, exactly, the way Sarah comes to see the world around her by T2; she sees everything around her as already gone, and witnessing any trace of beauty (such as the Salcedas playing with their baby) is enough to drive her mad with grief at how all of that will soon be destroyed.
There won't be any Terminator movie ever better than the original T1 1984 , greetings Arnold, Linda, Michael, and all its lovely actors ❤ , beautiful era, wonderful time, much better than nowadays...
T2 was the best
@@m2a6n0o0dovresti ringraziare sempre il primo capitolo
@@m2a6n0o0 nah T1 was better than T2
@@俺は誰でもない not imo 2 couldn’t have been made without 1 so u may have a point
@@俺は誰でもない I like the Liquid Metal 🤷🏿♂️
The scene when Kyle breaks down and cries, is a fantastic and moving scene... but in terms of the context of the film. Before the love scene, Kyle says pain can be shut off, meaning he learnt to disconnect himself from a lot of his emotions. I think it was right in some ways they deleted it, because he had to be strong for Sarah Connor. Though I'd probably would have had him shed a tear when looking out of the window before the love scene. Then wiping it away before turning to Sarah...
In most cases sure you can disconnect the pain, but those pesky human emotions have a way to pull a complete systems override out of the blue. Factory defaults can be so irksome.
@MarceloMedeiros-iv2xi He was overtaken by everything, I think. Seeing a world he never knew and was never supposed to, as well as being presented with the very possibility of even trying to stop it all from happening. That very morning was completely unknown territory for him; he probably never thought beyond saving Sarah from the Terminator, much less thought about just what they could possibly do with their knowledge of the future. He'd been following orders all his life and being extremely good at it, yet now he was faced with the same "dark road" as Sarah in T2... If he hadn't died (assuming it wasn't absolutely predestined), who's to say he wouldn't have probably given Sarah's plan a shot? No fate, right?
They should have kept this scene. It explains why they are making explosives.
All this helps to add some more elements to the story of the film lacking from the general release...
-The concern that the cops had for Sarah's safety when she's taken by Reese, and Traxler coming around to believing Reese's story.
-Exploring more of Reese's humanity and how Sarah eventually comes around to loving him.
-The real reason why Reese and Sarah made the pipebombs, instead of using them to deter the Terminator.
-Setting up things to come for Judgement Day with the remains of the T-800 found by Cyberdyne.
I always liked the Traxler character, they should have kept those extra scenes in.
And the Cyberdyne reveal at the end is perfect with that ominous theme.
Oh fuck! That scene with Sarah and Kyle in the wildlife was so good! WHY WOULD YOU CUT THAT!?
*****
I forget which stage of the film this is supposed to be at. I don't think it would sound so out of place in the latter stages when she's accepted the situation.
Because it showed Sarah's transformation too soon. Remember, she was a helpless kitten in this film until that pivotal moment when she snapped and told an injured Reese to get on his feet, Soldier. If Sarah becomes more hardened and driven and Reese shows his weakness in the field scene, then they basically become equals in the mission. That shouldn't happen. We can't see any weakness in Reese so that when he dies, Sarah can be completely affected because her protector is gone and she must now fight for herself.
This is why the climax is so much more effective. She's not just fighting the final fight. She's transformed into a fighter right before our eyes. With all that sub-plot cut, Cyberdyne remains a mysterious entity and doesn't raise any extra questions. If this movie was made without the intention of a sequel, which it was, then there's no need for the guy to find the chip. Remember, this was a very low budget film ($6.4 million) made by The Hemdale Film Company, an outfit that hadn't really done much before this film. There was no plan for a sequel.
In 1984 no one wanted to watch a man cry about plants. Even now I think the scene would elicit some gigges, but back then? No fucking way. Great acting, and a great scene, but a proper decision to cut it at the time.
Agreed. I always found it a little off that Kyle would not be somewhat is shock between the two environments, soldier or not. I mean, skulls on the ground vs. flowers..you notice that I think. Great scene though..glad it was thought about at least.
It was also cut because the acting there was terrible. ( I imagine)
I love the last scene. It shows that it was all meant to be happening the way it did. Kyle will forever go back in time and die before he is born.
Did Kyle really have to go through this movie without wearing underwear
Arnold did it too
And he was wearing a homeless guy's pants with no underwear too.
No socks either.
degree7 you mean pregnancy? 🤗
No, I don't think they had to go through the ENTIRE movie like that.
If any of these scenes were left in the Film it would not be what it is today. Good call leaving these out.
that's why Terminator Genesis sucks because it attempts to replace the original movie and it just can't
it was not made to replace the original it was made to be new gennesie he wood have made it the some way that other guy did
signerleo snyder either way it sucks it always will.Hollywood carnet let franchises die
ChiefAnator 117 that is your opsion it dos not suck to me or many people
like said it was canfroemd james cant get the rights back tell 2019
anrold said holylwood is maeking t6 so get over it
well I won't buy the horrible crap they shovel out just like Ghostbusters, Star Wars The Force Awakens and Independence Day Resurgence they all are terrible and they are nothing on the original/classics
ChiefAnator 117
the only one I agree with yyou on is ghsotbutser that shit sucked the new movie is hrobble
but stars wasr epsidoe 7 fans like it many fans like some with t5 so that that
The last scene was chilling. should have stayed in the film
@Serious_Case as said in rise of the machines judgement day can't be gotten rid of only postponed
These scenes shouldn't have been edited. Especially the cyberdyne tie ins. Great movie even 30 years later.
JONZUN Thats why you are not a film editor.
Even greater without these scenes. Really, none of them work 100% there's always something off about some line, some expression
The scene where Sarah is tickling Reece is so freaking adorable and romantic, like I love the chemistry between both of them so much 🥺🥺😍🤗❤️🥺
It all started with Sarah missing her Friday night date !
@@mrsam1999 I love how it all falls into place as well, she looses one man but finds another who's so much more valuable to her. What makes this love story so different to all the others and why I love it so much is because it's a love story between two vastly different people who are out of synch, out of place, out of time but fall in love under extreme circumstances due to the gratitude and care they share with each other, Sarah expresses her gratitude for Kyle having saved her, and Kyle expresses his gratitude for Sarah being the first person he can finally open up to emotionally and confess his feelings to, and because of this, an intimacy slowly starts to build and they end up falling in love by the end.
@@aus_liam444 Very well stated .. this is one of the best films I have ever seen !
@@mrsam1999 Fridey 13?
@@aus_liam444 I also think that Sarah's love for him blossomed from a profound desire to protect him and save him. In the first deleted scene of the Tiki Hotel, she mentions how there's so much for him to see and that she wants him to have that. And even when Kyle, her protector, was badly injured when they were in the factory, she forced him to stand abd keep moving. She needed to protect him and save him like he did for her. And Kyle, well, he's always admired her. Like he said, he loved her always... So even though they were only together for a few hours, they lived a love of a lifetime. One of my favorite quotes from Sara Connor
They should release the film with all the deleted scenes in so it's epicly long
Why can't James Cameron make an extended cut with the deleted scenes restored like the T2 extreme edition?? All these scenes are outstanding, really adds more character development, and gives us a tease of what to come.
Instead of focusing on the shitty Avatar sequels, make an extended cut for The Terminator, Cameron!
+Tony Vercetti best Linda Hamilton
why not call it "talkie" lol...we call it film in the uk because it's not the 1920's anymore...
Linda Hamilton was a 80's cutie
Hot as fuck
Amazing hairstyle she's like a lion
@@hadbetterdays8118 stylist: "What kind of hairstyle do you want?"
'80s Linda Hamilton: 🦁
True, but with the hair of a collie.
"What's that, Sarah? Reese is stuck down a well?"
The extended execution of the wrong Sarah, the revelation and the death of Traxler, Kyle's breakdown, and the very ending were scenes worthy of keeping in the movie. The rest of it was properly dumped, though, as it would have slowed the pace of the film down too much and provided little in return.
Kyle never truly ate food. All he ate were rations no wonder he was so confused seeing snacks, hearing hot dogs, drinks, everything. A future generation torn to shreds by older decisions
They should release a "Terminator: Extended Cut" DVD with some of these scenes in here. Because they explain a whole lot especially how the last one sets up the sequel.
you could probably find it somewhere
@@spacewarrior100 I noticed something strange, in the Dark Horse comic Terminator Tempest it has two cyberdyne guys that look awfully identical to the ones in this deleted scene and the comic is a direct sequel close to the original
@@willpow05 yea so should they have left that in the movie?
@@spacewarrior100 I don't think so, beyond that the comic came out in 1990 and I doubt they got deleted footage since the only info they got was a novelization in which the two guys were named Greg Simmons and Jack Kroll but in the comic they have different names it just seems like a big mystery or a coincidence
10 MINUTES??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? If this all the deleted scenes it's really shitty they left a lot of this out, a lot of this actually helped the story and gave the characters more depth and you're really going to tell me people can't afford to sit in a theater for 10 more minutes when they already expect to be there for more then an hour? I especially like how the cop who handed Reese the gun during the police station shootout. He put all the pieces together, from the T-800 getting shot with shotgun several times and smashing the window all the way to where he saw one man (Machine) was wiping out his entire station of 30 or more cops. Not to mention Reece's breakdown shows how much of the world he never got to see and how amazing life can be without living in fear of being vaporized by lasers in seconds with no chance to mourn his lost comrades and loved ones so he could keep fighting. I honestly wish I could've seen Reece survive to see him live a life he never got to have with proper food, a place to sleep and actually be happy to be alive because he would live knowing the war he was born into has a chance to be stopped and all the deaths and lost lives would never happen. It probably wouldn't cure his PTSD because he live through it but who knows what could've happened. I am probably over thinking this too much but that's what happens good story telling and good acting pulls you in and makes you care about people who don't even exist.
These scenes should have stayed in the movie. Wtf.
+Sonny He certainly did with avatar.
Only scene where Ed gives gun to Reese
Ed began believing Kyle's story from the deleted scenes which to me would have been cool because Kyle sounded so credible.
i really liked the scenes where Traxler firstly doubts whether Reese is insane or not, and then finally believes him. the scene where Kyle's crying is unfortunately bad acting, no wonder it wasn't included in the final cut
That's because you don't understand the scene. Think about it. Kyle tells Sarah that destroying Cyberdyne is not his mission. There's deep meaning behind his devotion and dedication to protecting Sarah. She has YET to give birth to John Conner. Without John existing, he wouldn't ever exist.
After intercepting Sarah, he tells her that being in the past is like a dream. And only in that dream are there things beautiful. Nature, Sarah, no wars, etc, etc... As much as he wants it to be real and to be permanent, he knows that isn't the truth. Somehow his is a premonition to T3 in which no matter what futile efforts were made, the Terminators are an inevitability.
Micheal biehn is so underrated. I love his acting and his characters he brings to every movie. Hicks, reese, anderson, and Ringo are all classics
what a pity some of those scenes were really significant
one scene here shoud of stayed in the film, the way kyle resse brakes down and cry is very emotional i feel for him. one or two other scenes yes, the rest no.
The scene where Sara sees cyberdyne systems address and suggest to below it up then freaks out when Kyle says no, makes so much sense because in T2 she got arrested for trying to blow it up then does it at the end.
Can’t believe it’s been 40 years and I’m only just seeing these for the first time. Some of these completely change the movie!
Same here.. it was mind blowing watching them. T1 is my favorite movie of all time. It was like watching a piece of my past in the future or something.. very weird feeling.
The only scene Cameron should have left in is the very last one where they show the Cyberdyne company....It would have set the 2nd movie up very nicely....
Did the Terminator steal that wagon from Clark Griswold?
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LOL
The station wagon belongs to Sgt. Murtaugh's wife from the movie "Lethal Weapon."
"Judgement Day roooaaaoooaaad, Judgement Day roooaaaoooaaad!"
"Reese be nimble, Reese be quiiiiiick. Ride through time just to kill that diiiiiiiick."
Another interesting moment here is when Linda/Sarah says "Wherever you go, you take the war with you". In the deleted ending to T2 where Judgement Day never happens, old Sarah is talking into her voice recorder and says something like "Even though Judgement Day never happened, it still does for me in my mind, and I carry it like a nightmare".
Look at how calmly these scenes are shot. The picture is not instantly changing between fifteen different cameras. It makes the experience so much better.
The one thing that never set right with me about the original movie was the fact that there was a crushed endoskeleton in that hydraulic press yet nobody in the world but Sarah and cyberdyne knows anything
Linda Hamilton's hair in this movie on it's own is already iconic!
The quintessential mullet
Man I find the scene where Sarah's talking about everyday stuff with Kyle so impactful, she becomes the voice of the audience, it's so difficult to comprehend the privation and terror that he's lived through all of his life. The bit where he picks up on hot dogs amongst all the other things Sarah lists is interesting, I guess in his mind Dogs' principle purpose is to spot Terminators, who knows what he was picturing when he heard it? What is a hot dog? Why is the dog hot? Is the hotness of the dog conducive to the mission? By what means does the dog achieve hotness?
Remember the terminator killed the dogs and turned them hot with them futuristic weaponry it had so when he heard Hotdogs he imagine dogs on fire 🔥
@@lamar1990lg Or a dog walking along with steam coming off of it.
I caught that too. When they were searching for a hotel room, Kyle flashes a wad of cash and asks if it's enough. He's familiar with economic meltdown and paper money being nearly worthless.
Kyle never talks about movies, TV, books, literature, or poetry. All he knows is machines and war. Great writing.
You can see why all of these were cut. Great decision by James.
If the ending hadn't been cut I know everyone in the theater would be going, "Oh damn..."
"The guys a wacko, right?"
"He better be"
I can understand them leaving that scene out, but I do like the idea of the lieutenant considering for a moment the future Reese described and if he wasn't crazy how screwed they'd be.
Just highlights how impossibly well edited the final cut was. Nothing much wrong with these scenes. They were on fire in the editing room.
Oh hell…I think the editors made the right choice snipping out these doozies. Don’t mess with perfection.
Supposedly Arnie is going to be in the James Cameron reboot. "I need your clothes and your mobility scootah!"
Poor Arnie. He went from "I'll be back" to "Ow! My back!"
Shaina Penguin LMAO!!
Arnie wears a cardigan and slippers in the next film, and glasses with string attached to them.