I play Lightsmith on Beta, and I Love so so so so so much this support/buffer aspect. Use the sacred weapon on the right dps at the good moment it's so much rewarding. It's trully a nice teamplay gameplay. I love it
Resto Druid just not feeling good at the moment. Devs or lack there of, completely silent. You don't feel the Hero talents at all, and as a result both also feel the same. Same talents, same rotation, same everything.
Thanks for another great list, I like the fact that you don't feel forced to place anything in S. So many tier lists put something in S just so it won't be empty.
Agree with your list. My totemic hero tree on my resto shaman is a banger. Voidweaver & Archon are very fun & I can see it push up bars. Both resto druid wild stalker & keeper of the grove still feel boring & too passive.
I feel like you're thinking about Discipline Oracle in M+ the wrong way. Use Premonition OUTSIDE of your pet windows to make sure you always have an answer to damage. It really helps alleviate the feeling of "No pet? Guess we die."
I really wish they would reward the saves from Holy Priests with more damage output. Since there are so many more spell options and less durability, it would be neat to see the damage opportunity increase for fluid game play and rewarding damage for doing a good job at healing your group.
I've really bounced around for what I want to main in TWW, which I think is a massive complement to Blizz. I just feel spoiled for choice. I think ultimately I'm between HPal & Resto Shammy -- I like the gameplay, fantasy, & visuals of all of their hero talents, so I'd be good regardless of tuning. If only they'd get rid of Blessing of Summer, HPal would be perfect 😅
Stuck between holy pally resto rid and resto shaman for this expansion. Gotta love healing but never cared for priest or monk. Tried evoker before and bleh imo
oracle reminds me quite a bit in concept to astrologian from ff14, but it feels like the adult slow pitch softball version lmao. i want them to give oracle another pass. it's so close to being super cool, but as it sits, it's underwhelming at best from my pov.
i didnt like to play as a healer in dragonflight the dmg was too high, ppl getting 1shot all the time, and i have to heal them to 95%+ all the time, to maybe dont get 1 shoted, it was very obnoxius and stressful. healing will be bad no matter what class u play, until they remove 1/3 of all defensives in the game. And tune the content in a way that feel u re actually pushing the health bars
As a holy priest I have to disagree with your placements of Archon and Oracle. Whilst I know my opinion is different from other holy priests i've talked to, I must say I was incredibly disappointed in how bland and uninteresting Archon is, essentially being non existent outside of making a 1min healing cd do the actual healing of a 1min healing cd. I am also incredibly excited to see what shenanigans I will be able to pull off with the premonitions of Oracle; whether that be machine gunning dispels as a pseudo mass dispel, or turning into a personal seedling, or even surviving massive oneshots (for the funny) by lining up protective light, fade DR, and solace bubble and DR, with a pinch of PW: Shield.
All 3?? Most people like where Archon & Voidweaver are, & I'd say the general consensus is that Oracle has massively improved, though it could still use some work.
What i hate about most healer youtubers is how much you guys hype either of the two hero talents for each spec when in reality each is designed to fit a certain type of content, so past a certain point you will be forced to play what you don't like if you wanna be able to push higher difficulty raids or m+ or delves, you are just augmenting your disappointment basically. So unless you like them you are f'ed basically.
If you are making spreadsheets to play a spec, you are playing it wrong. Period. To be honest, they have completely fucked the priest class. We peaked in Wrath, where holy was the absolute best healer spec of them all (I am talking about Wrath, not classic, so before we knew about Disc strengths until basically LK HC) I was owning anything healing related and I was continuously able to use up to 16 spells per fight, and as in using them once, no, constantly. Up to the current need, specially during progression. Reactive healing was the peak of healing and not having to engage into complex rotations or relying on certain stars to align... no, it was based on pure reactive skill and knowing what spell was best to use, knowing how to anticipate aoe, etc.
What would *you* place in S tier? 🤔
Herald of the Sun
Shaman
Herald of the sun for sure
Holy paladin both I would put in A or S. Same for Chronowarden and Totemic. The rest to me seem average.
Totemic for sure
This is one of the most thoughtful videos out there on how the different hero specs feel to play. Super helpful - thank you!
Thank you for this, it gives insight on the more fun aspect instead of the ever changing "x is strongest now"
Good video Mad!
I really need your holy paladin guide asap for the 2 builds. Never tried healing as paladin before but committing to it this time
I play Lightsmith on Beta, and I Love so so so so so much this support/buffer aspect. Use the sacred weapon on the right dps at the good moment it's so much rewarding.
It's trully a nice teamplay gameplay. I love it
Love ur content. So honest, so in dept ❤. I've been a shaman main since Cata and I'm very very happy with where they are shaping up to land in tww ❤😊.
Resto Druid just not feeling good at the moment. Devs or lack there of, completely silent.
You don't feel the Hero talents at all, and as a result both also feel the same. Same talents, same rotation, same everything.
Thanks for another great list, I like the fact that you don't feel forced to place anything in S. So many tier lists put something in S just so it won't be empty.
Agree with your list. My totemic hero tree on my resto shaman is a banger. Voidweaver & Archon are very fun & I can see it push up bars. Both resto druid wild stalker & keeper of the grove still feel boring & too passive.
I feel like you're thinking about Discipline Oracle in M+ the wrong way. Use Premonition OUTSIDE of your pet windows to make sure you always have an answer to damage. It really helps alleviate the feeling of "No pet? Guess we die."
Going to be playing a healer for the first time since Cata and I've settled on Holy Pal. Herald of the Sun looks awesome!
Awesome stuff.
Inexplicable to myself, I can't WAIT to play archon Holy. I've barely touched Holy in my playing career but fukit I'm hyped
Thanks for the content man! Subbed! I'll FOR SURE play Evoker Preserv and Holy Pally....but wich one to main?!?
As a resto sahamn main i am so excitef for totemic & forsee cant wait!
i wish someone could make a tier list for healers about utlity and buffs... that would be fun too see what each class brings!
Playing fistweaver for the first time and I have to say it’s the most fun ive ever had healing and being a long time mele player I may be maining it.
I really wish they would reward the saves from Holy Priests with more damage output. Since there are so many more spell options and less durability, it would be neat to see the damage opportunity increase for fluid game play and rewarding damage for doing a good job at healing your group.
Thanks for the video!
A question, what are the unit frames you're using?
Grid2
I'm so torn on what healer to play! Been maining druid forever, but i want to change it up. Can't decide between Shaman, Evoker, or Monk. Ugh.
Can’t wait to try archon holy priest. Halo for days
cant wait to play evo pala this season
I've really bounced around for what I want to main in TWW, which I think is a massive complement to Blizz. I just feel spoiled for choice.
I think ultimately I'm between HPal & Resto Shammy -- I like the gameplay, fantasy, & visuals of all of their hero talents, so I'd be good regardless of tuning. If only they'd get rid of Blessing of Summer, HPal would be perfect 😅
I'm really hoping paladin will feel like MoP. Eternal flame gameplay for me was such a fun playstyle.
Honestly i would bumb both mw trees up one and swap the evoker trees cos i just hate dot/hot eating
Is it possible to macro Premonition into our spells and just let it go off whenever?
It is off the GCD, so yes this is possible.
Stuck between holy pally resto rid and resto shaman for this expansion.
Gotta love healing but never cared for priest or monk. Tried evoker before and bleh imo
Wait wait wait Voidweaver can be played as a Healer?! :O
Can anyone tell me what cast bar addon is used in 1min 20s in shaman video ? Is that quartz ?
It's ElvUI.
oracle reminds me quite a bit in concept to astrologian from ff14, but it feels like the adult slow pitch softball version lmao. i want them to give oracle another pass. it's so close to being super cool, but as it sits, it's underwhelming at best from my pov.
i didnt like to play as a healer in dragonflight the dmg was too high, ppl getting 1shot all the time, and i have to heal them to 95%+ all the time, to maybe dont get 1 shoted, it was very obnoxius and stressful.
healing will be bad no matter what class u play, until they remove 1/3 of all defensives in the game. And tune the content in a way that feel u re actually pushing the health bars
As a holy priest I have to disagree with your placements of Archon and Oracle. Whilst I know my opinion is different from other holy priests i've talked to, I must say I was incredibly disappointed in how bland and uninteresting Archon is, essentially being non existent outside of making a 1min healing cd do the actual healing of a 1min healing cd. I am also incredibly excited to see what shenanigans I will be able to pull off with the premonitions of Oracle; whether that be machine gunning dispels as a pseudo mass dispel, or turning into a personal seedling, or even surviving massive oneshots (for the funny) by lining up protective light, fade DR, and solace bubble and DR, with a pinch of PW: Shield.
I hope blizzard stays true and completely changes all 3 hero talents for priest with a rework
Oh interesting
All 3?? Most people like where Archon & Voidweaver are, & I'd say the general consensus is that Oracle has massively improved, though it could still use some work.
Damn not a single s tier, need to babysit tanks while the dungeons kill the entire party. Seems like a bad expansion when you are a healer 😂
More traditional theme for healer this time rather than support / 4th dps with tank topping heals
I honestly hate that I had to do dps as a healer. For that I just go with. Dps spec or class…
Tanks not being solo gods is the best change for healers in years.
What i hate about most healer youtubers is how much you guys hype either of the two hero talents for each spec when in reality each is designed to fit a certain type of content, so past a certain point you will be forced to play what you don't like if you wanna be able to push higher difficulty raids or m+ or delves, you are just augmenting your disappointment basically.
So unless you like them you are f'ed basically.
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If you are making spreadsheets to play a spec, you are playing it wrong. Period. To be honest, they have completely fucked the priest class. We peaked in Wrath, where holy was the absolute best healer spec of them all (I am talking about Wrath, not classic, so before we knew about Disc strengths until basically LK HC)
I was owning anything healing related and I was continuously able to use up to 16 spells per fight, and as in using them once, no, constantly. Up to the current need, specially during progression. Reactive healing was the peak of healing and not having to engage into complex rotations or relying on certain stars to align... no, it was based on pure reactive skill and knowing what spell was best to use, knowing how to anticipate aoe, etc.