Well if you invade their dimention things can get a bit weird if their laws of physic can be diferent , since the unbidden and their ships are made of energy that means it might not be a good ideia to invade with solids.
What if you can play a race that devours everything regardless of what race you are and instead of them harvesting the entire galaxy, your species eat their entire specie.
Ah the terrifying galaxy eating energy people that always bugs out and ends up sitting in an empty star system sticking their thumb in their cheek and making popping sounds.
@@thespiffingbrit @The Spiffing Brit idk why youtube has decided now to show me all the 3 year old stellaris videos of you, but here's an interesting theory if you stipl get notifications. (Saw if from someone else) the three interdimentional factions are based off the three kingdoms of china (wei, wu, and shu) which would explain the eternal thrown as the mandate of heaven. With the life cycle of the unbidden being a millenia or about the time between china being united then collapsing into war.
It seemed to me to be a simple matter of an empire that collapsed into three remnant kingdoms. The rulership of the empire is called the eternal thrown, and the three kingdoms are fighting to unite the empire and claim the throne. The weakest of the three kingdoms, the unbidden, incapable of directly opposing the other two, discovered a rip in space-time caused by a jump engine. They took advantage of it by pulling into a stable portal and jumping into our universe. Once here, they intended to harvest the energy of this galaxy in hopes of using that resource to even the odds against the other two contenders. Eventually the other two kingdoms follow the unbidden here.
I'm guessing it's a similar situation to what happened to the empire after Palatine's death in star wars. The Unbidden, the Aberrant and the Vehement are part of one big empire, the emperor died leaving the Eternal Throne empty, and then the empire split into these 3 factions all attempting to take the Eternal Throne by killing off each other.
Late to the party but, this hypothetical united empire could fit the bill as "The Hunters". Refers to new galaxies they enter as a "hunting ground" And the glimpse into "hole in the void" to see the Prethoryn home galaxy (requires psionic race, tamed queen, 100 yrs), implies that whole galaxy has been stripped bare as well
My first encounter with the Unbidden was ironically a very welcomed one because it spawned in a neighboring Empire that I *literally* was forced out of a war with because of war exhaustion and lost a small shunk of my Empire to but had beaten the shit out of to the point where their fleet comparison to mines was "Pathetic" so I got a good laugh out of watching them get some well deserved karma for their aggressive war lmao
I don't think paradox made a fallen Federation instead of a fallen Empire yet, right? Those could have some fun mechanics like suddenly breaking out in to a civil war, splitting up going their separate ways, or of course the normal awakening... except maybe they really 'insist' you should join their most wonderful and amazing of Federations.
Sure, but you don't actually have to deal with it personally. All the current fallen empires are in the end I believe single race things, so a multi-race one with their own thing would bring some extra flavor to them.
"Youre just a tiny blip a mere trophy to help them get elected" Me when they spawn in the system where the entirety of my army is and I completely wipe them out without even knowing what they were. Like for real it was my first game ever that reached the end game and I had no idea that there was an end game crisis so I just ended up crushing them with the entirety of my army not even knowing what had happened since I was clicking through alerts trying to get on with my war and had ended up beating the end game crisis before it had even started.
This is my theory. This species ate everything in their dimension. Then created a single throne to rule from. As time dragged onward resources began to run out. This species started to eat itself after breaking into three factions. As the war continued a clear winner began to emerge. The second set of invaders decided to eat the first set to hopefully even the odds against the third faction. But they discovered that the first faction had escaped into our dimension and gave chase. The third most powerful faction begins to wonder where it's enemies have gone to and investigates the hole in their dimension to find out that not only had their enemies escaped but they had also found a dimension of boundless resources to pilfer.
I think it may be something like how you said, with a great empire in a different dimension ruled by the holder of this Eternal Throne. I believe that when the holder race of this Eternal Throne loses the throne for whatever reason (political rivals, assassination, being deemed no longer worthy, etc.) a civil war erupts in the empire causing three distinct factions to take prominence. The three factions fight each other, but they're perfectly equaled, which results in a stalemate. In order to break it, they have to travel to other dimensions and feed on them, in order to gain power and in turn, an edge against each other. This may be a recurring cycle as well, happening every few million years. I also think these could possibly be the reasons behind the extinction of the various ancient factions you can find in the galaxy, since they may have visited the galaxy your empire is in before, and purged it of all its life, however I'm not sure about this as I have never finished one of those event chains, or seen any of your videos about them. What I do think is possible though, is the issue with the Prethoryn. Since they were forced to leave their galaxy because of the so called "hunters", I think that maybe their galaxy had once been made a feeding ground used by these dimensional invaders, and they were the only ones to escape following the invasion. Since they must hop from galaxy to galaxy through the void that exists between galaxies, I theorize they may have had a stroke of terribly bad luck, in that every time they arrive in a new galaxy, enough time has passed in the cycle I mentioned earlier that the Dimensional beings are out feeding on new galaxies once more. Every time they arrive in a new galaxy, the dimensional invaders would arrive soon afterwards to feed on that galaxy. They're not chasing the Prethoryn, the Prethoryn simply have bad luck in that the time they take to travel between galaxies takes millions of years; by the time they've arrived in a new galaxy, the cycle has restarted and the dimensional beings are out feeding again. These beings coincidentally arrive not long after the Prethoryn arrive in a galaxy, leading the Prethoryn to think they're being chased and hunted, when in reality, it's just bad luck for them since it takes them so long to arrive in a new galaxy, which gives just enough time for the cycle to renew and for the dimensional beings to begin feeding once more. If Paradox doesn't decide to elaborate on the hunters or the backstory to the Dimensional beings, and instead decides to leave it as a mystery that anyone can choose to figure in their own way, then this'll be my own personal head canon for the Prethoryn and Dimensional beings. Hope you guys like this theory.
i assume that there are far more than only 3 groups in the universe the unbidden, abberant and vehement come from as why would all of them attack the same galaxy when they could simply harvest one that the others had not reached where they would be unchallenged. perhaps almost all the galaxies are being invaded by the various kingdoms from the other universe at the same time and the prethoryn were the biggest threat to the extra dimensionals so multiple kingdoms worked together to create a task force (the hunters) to destroy the prethoryn. the hunters destroyed most of the prethoryn which was their main purpose but when they were called back to the other universe they refused and went rouge as they had not finished their task and now they hunt the remaining prethoryn across galaxies. the other extra-dimensionals initially saw no reason to attack the hunters as they realized they had nothing to gain which allowed the hunters, which already had the huge fleet and resources given to them, to grow immensely while the remaining extra dimensionals ignored them. eventually the hunters were so powerful that the other extra-dimensionals banded together to stop them but the unbidden, abberant and vehement were too weak to be of use so they continued to attack sapient life. the reason the prethoryn keep escaping the hunters is that the hunters now have to contend with bigger problems. maybe the unbidden, abberant and vehement saw that the prethoryn would eventually come to the stellaris galaxy and are conquering it so that they can lie in wait and prepare for the remaining prethoryn. or if the prethoryn are the crisis then the unbidden and company are to late. i have no evidence for any of this but it is my headcannon
If your theory is correct, after beating the Unbidden and the other two, a few years later, the people watching over the process should come in to attempt to destroy you. And if you manage to defeat them, you get the Throne, which gives various bonuses.
Nope. The Unbidden come to kill us so the Unbidden that came to stop the Unbidden to eating all of us for themselves fails, while also beating the First unbidden to death. And by that get the Achivement "Celestial Throne". It makes sense when you think about it
Honestly, the abberant and vehement were more of a blessing than a problem in all of my games they show up in. They all kept each other occupied indefinitely and left their outer stations unguarded for the most part. I could rip them apart, leaving them each with one system, and then went on to eat the rest of the galaxy before I got back to dealing with them.
That's basically my first encounter with the unbidden. I had multiple 250k-300k fleets and their portal spawned in one of my empire's systems and I swatted them as they where pouring out of the portal. Then strangely a couple years later the orange guys come out of a portal in on of my vassal empires systems and rekted a few worlds but then I came by and fucked em up and then a while later the vehement screen popped with their opening line and I looked to see where their portal was going to spawn and then it never spawned. So either they saw how their buddies got fucked up or my game is buggy as hell since I'm running a shit ton of mods
I wish we could have more than one endgame crisis, I got the AI rebellion and instacrushed them. Even the Awakened empire in my game has gotten all peaceful for ingame decades now.
Missiles are being fixed in the next update- they're going to be capable of retargeting, which means that if a missiles target is destroyed before it gets there it'll switch targets. This should improve them drastically, especially early-game when no-one has researched PD yet.
just send a fleet of attack moon and hundreds(at this point, I can host thousands- the lag is unreal.)of corvettes.... "Welcome to my Galaxy, Unbidden."- Galactic Emperor.
I think I lack the DLC for galactic emperor. Should be Nemisis. However in Vanilla exist a flag (most likely for devs testing spawns? however you can obtain it): Crisis spawns sends one message, notices you exist, despawns. Kinda fun to watch. xD
What ir they're the Awakened Fallen Empires of their plane of existence? They had a War in Heaven threesome which became a trenchwar in SPPEEHHSSS so when the Unbidden find a fresh galaxy full of resources that can tip the balance of the war, of course the other two will follow them there.
Wait what about their knowledge of the Shroud? They said they are from a very high place and a place close to the shroud, but what would be considered "close" to the Shroud? Are some psionic? Or know any psionics? Or do they border the Shroud like 2 empires border eachother and are considered enemies to the inhabitants of the Shroud or something?
I think that the unbidden travel through dimensions often, like alternate universes, if they had visited the universe before then they could use their jump drives to head to nearby galaxies, it's just that there are long gaps in time between the rifts opening
At long last we shall feast doesnt necessarily mean they have visited your galaxy before, it could just mean that its been awhile since they've visited any other dimension besides the one they come from.
Stream lore would be awsome. Also I had the other unbidden groups save me from the first. when it seemed they would destroy the whole galaxy the other showed up and they spent their resources fighting each other, allowing me and others to scrape fleets together to destroy the portals
In my headcannon the Extra Dimensional Invaders are actually the hunters, because: You throw their empire into a civil war by using the jump drive. Thus they can't hunt the Scourge anymore which means the Scourge has no reason to flee anymore and settles in their latest conquered galaxy which means it doesn't have invade the player galaxy anymore. I mean, imagine if those 3 factions would unite, the galaxy probably wouldn't stand a chance. And neither would the Scourge.
They were human once before they transcended existence itself however their savage nature could not be overcome and they began to fight each other once more after they ran out of things to conquer.
When I first encountered the Unbidden they took a few of my planets then stopped. The entire galaxy banned together with fallen empires and just blew them all to hell. But I got the final kill as soon as I built a large enough fleet to engage them.
My crisis meter: AI rebellion: Ha, easier to destroy than bronze age primitives. Unbidden: Ha, these morons keep on dividing their fleets allowing me to easily take them out one after the other. Scourge: Same as unbidden, just a bit more interesting as you tend to see them in less games. The reckoning/end of the cycle: Fuck this shit I'm out.
The vehement aren't the second invaders that spawn, the aberrant are, so that other name from the third transmission is actually the name of the aberrant
Ah, the mighty Spiff. I would definately be a fan of any lore stories you made of the true Stellaris youtuber war. Remembering that series of the Greater Terran Union certainly gets my excited for something similar existing.
I played a game where the unbidden were summoned early game by a fallen empire with Jump Drive. Almost got r3kt but I activated my Doomsday Weapon to Shr3k the anchors *Cough Cough Eclipse class dreadnought Cough Cough*
I have just a primal hatred for these guys cause the first time they showed up for me they ripped a hole in the system with my mega shipyard effectively crippling my capacity to fight back as all damage they did to my fleets was for all intents and purposes permanent and they did a fuck ton of damage to my total fleets 60 battleships 20 titans 1 juggernaut and 720 corvettes was by the end of that fight 1 juggernaut and around 50 corvettes
that would actually be a fun game where you are part of an election and have to invade other galaxies in other dimensions for there recourses to see who sits on the royal throne
When you have breached the Shroud there is some additional dialog with the Unbidden (idk with the other factions bc the Unbidden never got big in my games). You can ask them, if they are from the Shroud and they will say: “The Shroud.... yes it is close to where we are from“ meaning probably close to their dimension so they are simmilar to the godlike beings you can encounter in the shroud! (explaining why they are so strong)
First end game crisis I got was the unbidden, and they were destroyed in 10 years by an ascended empire that had previously conquered or subjugated half of the galaxy. The unbidden teleported in right beside the main ascended fleet... 4.5 million.
the unbidden remain in room-like spaces in the other dimension with their fleet and can interact with your world before the endgame event, i got an event with then at the early game
That's a very interesting way of pronouncing vehement and the "Brits can't pronounce foreign" excuse doesn't really count with the entirely English word vehement (as in vehement denial). It is a weird name though, what are they vehement about? Or is it just their general demeanour.
You should watch one of his Crusader Kings videos... He pronounces "Apostates" and "Apostles". Spiff may sound like a private school posh boy but his can't speak English for shit.
@@DoddyIshamel As a loan-word directly copied into English, its technically considered to be both. British English tries to keep the original pronunciation and spelling of such loan words, so even the pronunciation is mostly French in English - ergo pronouncing it as "veer", taking the "h" out. However, over time, its become more standard to pronounce the "T" in most French loan words.
I find The Spiffing Brit's theory on the Unbidden election cycle very interesting. It's something like a Darwinistic Constitutional Monarchy. Only, you know, with inter-dimensional galaxy killers.
I don't think it their government has anything to do with our dimension. I think it's more likely that there civ pulled a Rome and when the last emporor died he had no successor so now different factions are trying to claim power (a bit like sengoko Japan)
I think that the eternal throne is some status or some kind of power booster for the interdimensional beings that they just fight over ,like we did in the medieval, they also fight for resources and territory in their own and other dimensions. Unbidden are propably, as was said in the video , very weak that is why they came as refuges.
I believe that the empire of the three combined are the hunters and that they were trying to harvest the scourge dimension but started to fight each other because the emperor died
Might be because I'm up at 4am, but maybe the old faction on the throne was the hunters. Yet through the power struggle and loss of a leader for hundreds to thousands of years has caused them to become much like a fallen empire. They regressed a bit and had to start back at square one. It could also explain why they both can't be in the same game. The unbidden are technologically superior considering the only resources they need are pops and that they can make indestructible portals so long as extra dimensional anchors gold it in place. This power struggle is apparent too, being that if all three of the factions worked together, the game would likely end much quicker than as of now, fighting each other while having the secondary objective of claiming the galaxy. The precursors are much like the scourge, being once great but ultimately being ended by some outside force. Ultimately, every empire has fallen, so what says yours won't once the game ends? All civilizations want to expand more in one regard or another, so maybe it's inevitable that even the mightiest will always fall eventually, and death being the only certainty.
First time i ran into them i had been at peace for 150 years and built up a MASSIVE fleet and pushed their shit in in the first 2 years of their invasion lol
See you talk about them like this gigantic extradimensional empire that sees us as insignificant but I've seen multiple people annihilate the Unbidden without even realizing it lol
Since the Unbidden etc. get their resources by "cleaning" planets of sapient live, will they destroy uninhabited planets or planets inhabited by non-sapient liveforms? Because if they wouldn't be got destroyed, it would be really weird that the Yuht have just found other liveforms just before the end of their empire and their species, IF your theory in your video about the Yuht Empire is right.
I think that the unbidden and gain power from harvesting energy from living things, and that the eternal throne is fought over in a battle and they harvest galaxies to get more power, and they try to stop eachother from harvesting galaxies to weaken competition
I think the Extradimensional Invaders are a form of multi-hivemind, where there are many different factions, each with their own collective consciousness. My guess is that the entire species was once one big collective, but something happened, the core mind died or something, and it split into several different ones. The Eternal Throne is the core mind, you gain the throne, you control all the Invaders, you become the core mind. That is why these three factions are fighting, they each want control over the entire collective, and reunite their species.
Your theory about seems close, it could also point to three kingdoms, each progressively bigger and stronger than the last, all chasing each other when the Unbidden tried to harvest our galaxy as a means for food. And considering they're energy beings, harvesting energy/life force/souls to be used for building material for making more ships, it's possible the Unbidden was currently the weakest of the three seeking out refuge to recoup their forces but in the middle of it all the Vehement caught them with their hand in the cookie jar, so to speak
That custom race would be the weirdest thing in existence. It's a great idea. By the way, there is an anomaly event that gives you an unbidden science ship.
The election theory seems needlessly elaborate based on info presented; The three definitely seem like different states in the same wider Empire, but a far more common reason could be given for their dialogue and fighting; They feed on organic matter or something in our universe which is sparse or non-existent in their own (and exists uniquely on habitable planets). The traditional sources of food appear to have dwindled (per "At last" comment) leading to a resource shortage that led the wider Extra-Dimensional Invader Empire (The Eternal Throne) to sunder into at least 3 factions. It's also possible that the "At Last" comment might also merely be a statement on the part of the Unbidden who may be losing pretty badly and thus in need of resources in a way that the other factions are not (in which case this could be a simple war of succession). So the player galaxy serves as a sort of colonial front for a massive civil war for the throne where they serve as a key source of resources for the various pretenders to the throne. One eerie possibility which the videos don't consider is that the event seems to imply that this isn't a massive evacuation or refugees fleeing to another world but rather a small expeditionary force aiming at collecting resources from their "feeding ground". This is why they are able to send seemingly infinite fleets, rather what they are limited by seems to be their connection to the galaxy proper. Hence, it's possible that with a "wider" rift or if more were opened by reckless use of Psi Drives, that even more could spill into that galaxy. So it may be that the Scourge are fleeing from the Unbidden; the portal in their home galaxy was wider and their home systems were squashed by a much larger sortee due to more portals and/or a greater capacity to support fleets through them.
It looks more like the writers give you three different semi-random lines to give you the feeling that the unbiden and his friends doesn't care about you. (Yeah... I'm not fun at parties)
maybe the eternal throne is something like the mandate of heaven for the Chinese. the three are probably one of the many different warlords of the eternal empire and are trying to recreate the empire (the empire has probably shattered) they either must annex each other or destroy each other to stop any other claim on the Throne (well damn ... that's basically what you theorised lol)
My Empire is just a tiny blip on the grand scheme of things? Tell that to my race of Cthulhu people who allied with a Fallen Empire to whoop the Unbidden's asses within 20 years of their first appearance. We both just kept slamming 100k fleets into them repeatedly like waves crashing over rocks until finally the rocks gave. Luckily, it was my fleet that struck the final blow so I got credit for the victory and +20 opinion from everyone for saving the Galaxy. Having done our work, we decided to become a Fallen Empire, ceded most of our territory to the human empire that we personally grew and cultivated over 200 years from a primitive society within our borders to an interstellar, multi-species nation, and retired to our former Core sector with 2 100k fleets and several systems full of Megastructures, colonies, and massive starbases. We then became what I call a "Grandfather Empire", giving out resources to young nations who needed them like a grandparent gives candy to their grandchildren, and advising the older empires on matters of state and science. Course we shifted to xenophobic at some point before the retreat, and with a God-Empress in the form of "The Exalted One", we weren't the xenophile, spiritualist, pacifists we started out as, but just because we want to be left alone most of the time, doesn't mean we ignore the rest of the galaxy. Ahhh...that was a good game.
I believe the same as you except that except that stuff is different “their lives millennia long the last king of the ghjh’kk dynasty was dead -heirless . To the Milky Way galaxy to loot the kingdom with the most booty’s dynasty ascends to the eternal throne !”
they should make it so that we can invade the unbidden through their own portal, that's be real ironic
Well if you invade their dimention things can get a bit weird if their laws of physic can be diferent , since the unbidden and their ships are made of energy that means it might not be a good ideia to invade with solids.
Douglas Alex send in the communist gas people
Douglas Alex then how the fuck did they invade ours if the laws are different.
What if you can play a race that devours everything regardless of what race you are and instead of them harvesting the entire galaxy, your species eat their entire specie.
@@gamerplays5131 devouring swarm?
Ah the terrifying galaxy eating energy people that always bugs out and ends up sitting in an empty star system sticking their thumb in their cheek and making popping sounds.
@@thespiffingbrit @The Spiffing Brit idk why youtube has decided now to show me all the 3 year old stellaris videos of you, but here's an interesting theory if you stipl get notifications. (Saw if from someone else) the three interdimentional factions are based off the three kingdoms of china (wei, wu, and shu) which would explain the eternal thrown as the mandate of heaven. With the life cycle of the unbidden being a millenia or about the time between china being united then collapsing into war.
They really need to upgrade the Crisis factions big time.
Although you can play as them...
That "Eternal Throne" thing sounds like Interdimensional HRE to me.
GOTT ERHALTE FRANZ DEN KAISER
Sounds like the old Chinese kingdoms to me
Claim the mandate eternal
Kneel before the dragon of Zakuul
It seemed to me to be a simple matter of an empire that collapsed into three remnant kingdoms. The rulership of the empire is called the eternal thrown, and the three kingdoms are fighting to unite the empire and claim the throne. The weakest of the three kingdoms, the unbidden, incapable of directly opposing the other two, discovered a rip in space-time caused by a jump engine. They took advantage of it by pulling into a stable portal and jumping into our universe. Once here, they intended to harvest the energy of this galaxy in hopes of using that resource to even the odds against the other two contenders. Eventually the other two kingdoms follow the unbidden here.
And they choose the one that had stubbon human in it, *great*
I'm guessing it's a similar situation to what happened to the empire after Palatine's death in star wars. The Unbidden, the Aberrant and the Vehement are part of one big empire, the emperor died leaving the Eternal Throne empty, and then the empire split into these 3 factions all attempting to take the Eternal Throne by killing off each other.
Palatine
So basically China's Three Kingdoms period in space
Also the "Three Banners War".
@@nanomachinesson2513 Or like Charlemagne's Grandsons. Somewhat.
Late to the party but, this hypothetical united empire could fit the bill as "The Hunters".
Refers to new galaxies they enter as a "hunting ground"
And the glimpse into "hole in the void" to see the Prethoryn home galaxy (requires psionic race, tamed queen, 100 yrs), implies that whole galaxy has been stripped bare as well
My first encounter with the Unbidden was ironically a very welcomed one because it spawned in a neighboring Empire that I *literally* was forced out of a war with because of war exhaustion and lost a small shunk of my Empire to but had beaten the shit out of to the point where their fleet comparison to mines was "Pathetic" so I got a good laugh out of watching them get some well deserved karma for their aggressive war lmao
I don't think paradox made a fallen Federation instead of a fallen Empire yet, right? Those could have some fun mechanics like suddenly breaking out in to a civil war, splitting up going their separate ways, or of course the normal awakening... except maybe they really 'insist' you should join their most wonderful and amazing of Federations.
Sure, but you don't actually have to deal with it personally. All the current fallen empires are in the end I believe single race things, so a multi-race one with their own thing would bring some extra flavor to them.
It would be fun if you could join and manually try to awaken them on your side
"Youre just a tiny blip a mere trophy to help them get elected"
Me when they spawn in the system where the entirety of my army is and I completely wipe them out without even knowing what they were. Like for real it was my first game ever that reached the end game and I had no idea that there was an end game crisis so I just ended up crushing them with the entirety of my army not even knowing what had happened since I was clicking through alerts trying to get on with my war and had ended up beating the end game crisis before it had even started.
Interesting. Usually everything in the system should have been deleted. Which includes your army. Guess older version or bug luck.
So it's actually just 3 galaxy-sized hunting parties that beat the shit out of each other just as a sign of being good sports.
...Fun.
This is my theory. This species ate everything in their dimension. Then created a single throne to rule from.
As time dragged onward resources began to run out. This species started to eat itself after breaking into three factions. As the war continued a clear winner began to emerge. The second set of invaders decided to eat the first set to hopefully even the odds against the third faction. But they discovered that the first faction had escaped into our dimension and gave chase. The third most powerful faction begins to wonder where it's enemies have gone to and investigates the hole in their dimension to find out that not only had their enemies escaped but they had also found a dimension of boundless resources to pilfer.
Nice theory 👍
This is a much better theory
I think it may be something like how you said, with a great empire in a different dimension ruled by the holder of this Eternal Throne. I believe that when the holder race of this Eternal Throne loses the throne for whatever reason (political rivals, assassination, being deemed no longer worthy, etc.) a civil war erupts in the empire causing three distinct factions to take prominence. The three factions fight each other, but they're perfectly equaled, which results in a stalemate. In order to break it, they have to travel to other dimensions and feed on them, in order to gain power and in turn, an edge against each other. This may be a recurring cycle as well, happening every few million years.
I also think these could possibly be the reasons behind the extinction of the various ancient factions you can find in the galaxy, since they may have visited the galaxy your empire is in before, and purged it of all its life, however I'm not sure about this as I have never finished one of those event chains, or seen any of your videos about them. What I do think is possible though, is the issue with the Prethoryn. Since they were forced to leave their galaxy because of the so called "hunters", I think that maybe their galaxy had once been made a feeding ground used by these dimensional invaders, and they were the only ones to escape following the invasion. Since they must hop from galaxy to galaxy through the void that exists between galaxies, I theorize they may have had a stroke of terribly bad luck, in that every time they arrive in a new galaxy, enough time has passed in the cycle I mentioned earlier that the Dimensional beings are out feeding on new galaxies once more. Every time they arrive in a new galaxy, the dimensional invaders would arrive soon afterwards to feed on that galaxy. They're not chasing the Prethoryn, the Prethoryn simply have bad luck in that the time they take to travel between galaxies takes millions of years; by the time they've arrived in a new galaxy, the cycle has restarted and the dimensional beings are out feeding again. These beings coincidentally arrive not long after the Prethoryn arrive in a galaxy, leading the Prethoryn to think they're being chased and hunted, when in reality, it's just bad luck for them since it takes them so long to arrive in a new galaxy, which gives just enough time for the cycle to renew and for the dimensional beings to begin feeding once more.
If Paradox doesn't decide to elaborate on the hunters or the backstory to the Dimensional beings, and instead decides to leave it as a mystery that anyone can choose to figure in their own way, then this'll be my own personal head canon for the Prethoryn and Dimensional beings. Hope you guys like this theory.
i assume that there are far more than only 3 groups in the universe the unbidden, abberant and vehement come from as why would all of them attack the same galaxy when they could simply harvest one that the others had not reached where they would be unchallenged. perhaps almost all the galaxies are being invaded by the various kingdoms from the other universe at the same time and the prethoryn were the biggest threat to the extra dimensionals so multiple kingdoms worked together to create a task force (the hunters) to destroy the prethoryn.
the hunters destroyed most of the prethoryn which was their main purpose but when they were called back to the other universe they refused and went rouge as they had not finished their task and now they hunt the remaining prethoryn across galaxies.
the other extra-dimensionals initially saw no reason to attack the hunters as they realized they had nothing to gain which allowed the hunters, which already had the huge fleet and resources given to them, to grow immensely while the remaining extra dimensionals ignored them.
eventually the hunters were so powerful that the other extra-dimensionals banded together to stop them but the unbidden, abberant and vehement were too weak to be of use so they continued to attack sapient life. the reason the prethoryn keep escaping the hunters is that the hunters now have to contend with bigger problems. maybe the unbidden, abberant and vehement saw that the prethoryn would eventually come to the stellaris galaxy and are conquering it so that they can lie in wait and prepare for the remaining prethoryn. or if the prethoryn are the crisis then the unbidden and company are to late.
i have no evidence for any of this but it is my headcannon
If your theory is correct, after beating the Unbidden and the other two, a few years later, the people watching over the process should come in to attempt to destroy you. And if you manage to defeat them, you get the Throne, which gives various bonuses.
CONTINUE THE BLORG
THEY NEED FRIENDS
RESISTANCE IS IMPOLITE
Lucas Derp you think luxembourg would make a good friend for the blorg?
Just let this meme rest in peace please.
Bodo Peters which meme? the blorg or luxembourg?
Great Potato if Luxembourg changes its name to Luxemblorg, then yes.
Bodo Peters memes never die
I had no idea you worked with Stellaris and Aspec so much in the past. Cool.
Blue, Orange, Green... looks like they took the colors of the invaders from Mass Effect 3's Instagram filter endings X3
Every time someone 0overthinks how to end ME3 a hole in space and time is created.
Javier Calvelo and then another invasion from beyond happens, because nobody can be satisfied with ME3
Nope. The Unbidden come to kill us so the Unbidden that came to stop the Unbidden to eating all of us for themselves fails, while also beating the First unbidden to death. And by that get the Achivement "Celestial Throne".
It makes sense when you think about it
Nah they took the collors of the starter pokemons c;
Game of Extra-Dimensional Thrones
You know nothing Jon the life matter devourer.
Game of eternal thrones.
Will there be Joffrey the King of Dimensional Madness?
From beyond they come and off to hell we shall send them.
For the Emperor!
the pronunciation of vehement in this caused me physical pain
Honestly, the abberant and vehement were more of a blessing than a problem in all of my games they show up in. They all kept each other occupied indefinitely and left their outer stations unguarded for the most part. I could rip them apart, leaving them each with one system, and then went on to eat the rest of the galaxy before I got back to dealing with them.
Unless your 150k fleet destroys them all in one foul swoop.
I used a 45k fleet to destroy 2whole fleets
That's basically my first encounter with the unbidden. I had multiple 250k-300k fleets and their portal spawned in one of my empire's systems and I swatted them as they where pouring out of the portal. Then strangely a couple years later the orange guys come out of a portal in on of my vassal empires systems and rekted a few worlds but then I came by and fucked em up and then a while later the vehement screen popped with their opening line and I looked to see where their portal was going to spawn and then it never spawned. So either they saw how their buddies got fucked up or my game is buggy as hell since I'm running a shit ton of mods
@@DEMONX62 lol that was mine, except with a fleet power of 10 million
i got more ship weapons and gigastructures mod and proceed to destory them with my 250k fleet and a war moon when they are like 3 system big
So the unbidden are like the vikings; Sweden, Denmark and Norway vs EVERYONE ELSE IN EUROPE
More like the Germanic tribes invading Rome. The Vikings were more of a threat to northern Europe, Italy with the Normans being an exception.
I wish we could have more than one endgame crisis, I got the AI rebellion and instacrushed them.
Even the Awakened empire in my game has gotten all peaceful for ingame decades now.
I think a live lore creation would be pretty cool.
also WHEN WILL YOU DESTROY THE WORLD WITH NUKES
Rapier 1-3 Nukes are pretty much weakest missile in game. In fact, most missiles in game kinda suck.
Missiles are being fixed in the next update- they're going to be capable of retargeting, which means that if a missiles target is destroyed before it gets there it'll switch targets. This should improve them drastically, especially early-game when no-one has researched PD yet.
Lore video: The loop
Because what was shall be
what will be,was
Plot Twist: What was will never be
just send a fleet of attack moon and hundreds(at this point, I can host thousands- the lag is unreal.)of corvettes.... "Welcome to my Galaxy, Unbidden."- Galactic Emperor.
I think I lack the DLC for galactic emperor. Should be Nemisis. However in Vanilla exist a flag (most likely for devs testing spawns? however you can obtain it): Crisis spawns sends one message, notices you exist, despawns. Kinda fun to watch. xD
The Eternal Throne? So Valkorion is an Unbidden?
Emperor Franz I & II of Austria Valyn is Vehemant, and Arkann is aberrant
Emperor Franz I & II of Austria So they come from the old republic dimension?
Unbidden=children of the player character after they attain the same power Valkorion had
That was my thought too, I mean he has been shown to eat worlds all by himself, like Nathema...Ziost...oh my god...oh my GOD!
Kneel before the dragon of zakuul!!
Ah, these where my first end game crisis dudes
First time I saw them the portal opened on some stacked fleets and they instantly died. I saw the achievement pop up and was confused what happened.
What ir they're the Awakened Fallen Empires of their plane of existence? They had a War in Heaven threesome which became a trenchwar in SPPEEHHSSS so when the Unbidden find a fresh galaxy full of resources that can tip the balance of the war, of course the other two will follow them there.
ah sometimes I miss this old spiffing brit
Wait what about their knowledge of the Shroud? They said they are from a very high place and a place close to the shroud, but what would be considered "close" to the Shroud? Are some psionic? Or know any psionics? Or do they border the Shroud like 2 empires border eachother and are considered enemies to the inhabitants of the Shroud or something?
I think that the unbidden travel through dimensions often, like alternate universes, if they had visited the universe before then they could use their jump drives to head to nearby galaxies, it's just that there are long gaps in time between the rifts opening
At long last we shall feast doesnt necessarily mean they have visited your galaxy before, it could just mean that its been awhile since they've visited any other dimension besides the one they come from.
Stream lore would be awsome. Also I had the other unbidden groups save me from the first. when it seemed they would destroy the whole galaxy the other showed up and they spent their resources fighting each other, allowing me and others to scrape fleets together to destroy the portals
In my headcannon the Extra Dimensional Invaders are actually the hunters, because: You throw their empire into a civil war by using the jump drive. Thus they can't hunt the Scourge anymore which means the Scourge has no reason to flee anymore and settles in their latest conquered galaxy which means it doesn't have invade the player galaxy anymore.
I mean, imagine if those 3 factions would unite, the galaxy probably wouldn't stand a chance. And neither would the Scourge.
They were human once before they transcended existence itself however their savage nature could not be overcome and they began to fight each other once more after they ran out of things to conquer.
That moment when you realized the spiffing Brit used to make lore videos
When I first encountered the Unbidden they took a few of my planets then stopped. The entire galaxy banned together with fallen empires and just blew them all to hell. But I got the final kill as soon as I built a large enough fleet to engage them.
I think it would be cool if instead of just destroying the portals you can send your fleets through them and conquer the dimension
My crisis meter:
AI rebellion: Ha, easier to destroy than bronze age primitives.
Unbidden: Ha, these morons keep on dividing their fleets allowing me to easily take them out one after the other.
Scourge: Same as unbidden, just a bit more interesting as you tend to see them in less games.
The reckoning/end of the cycle: Fuck this shit I'm out.
The vehement aren't the second invaders that spawn, the aberrant are, so that other name from the third transmission is actually the name of the aberrant
Why was this recommended to me? Spif seems much more tame 3 years ago.
Watching this in 2020. Before spiffco. Before Yorkshire Tea.
Damn it's so weird, he is playing his character so hard these days
Ah, the mighty Spiff. I would definately be a fan of any lore stories you made of the true Stellaris youtuber war. Remembering that series of the Greater Terran Union certainly gets my excited for something similar existing.
Imagine being the unbidden aka a type 4 civilization and watching your fighters crumble when fighting against the human empires type 2
Tbf you never actually defeat the extra dimensional invaders you just close their portal unlike when you eradicate the contingency and scourge
I'm new to stellaris so this might be a dumb question, can more than one endgame crisis ocurr at the same, like the unbidden and the scourge?
Only with mods, in the vanilla versión of the game it’s not posible
The Devs are adding that in 3.5. if you select all then all 3 crises spawn one after another
with
event 10
event 1000
event 2000
You can have all 3, contingency, unbidden/extra dim., scourge. :D
I played a game where the unbidden were summoned early game by a fallen empire with Jump Drive. Almost got r3kt but I activated my Doomsday Weapon to Shr3k the anchors
*Cough Cough Eclipse class dreadnought Cough Cough*
I have just a primal hatred for these guys cause the first time they showed up for me they ripped a hole in the system with my mega shipyard effectively crippling my capacity to fight back as all damage they did to my fleets was for all intents and purposes permanent and they did a fuck ton of damage to my total fleets 60 battleships 20 titans 1 juggernaut and 720 corvettes was by the end of that fight 1 juggernaut and around 50 corvettes
I don't even play this game or own it and i'm doing a marathon of these videos. Good stuff, i always like interesting lore.
It's all fun and games until someone brings out Kinetic Artillery, Giga Cannon, Focus Arc Emitter and Cloud Lighting
that would actually be a fun game where you are part of an election and have to invade other galaxies in other dimensions for there recourses to see who sits on the royal throne
"to go on holiday to germany" lmao
When you have breached the Shroud there is some additional dialog with the Unbidden (idk with the other factions bc the Unbidden never got big in my games). You can ask them, if they are from the Shroud and they will say: “The Shroud.... yes it is close to where we are from“ meaning probably close to their dimension so they are simmilar to the godlike beings you can encounter in the shroud! (explaining why they are so strong)
I'm not the only one that finds the unbidden and the Typhon from Prey extremely similar right?
That would be a good expansion pack, more end game crises and the current ones fleshed out
First end game crisis I got was the unbidden, and they were destroyed in 10 years by an ascended empire that had previously conquered or subjugated half of the galaxy. The unbidden teleported in right beside the main ascended fleet... 4.5 million.
Found your channel through Aspec, could NOT subscribe fast enough. Look forward to more lore vids ^^
the unbidden remain in room-like spaces in the other dimension with their fleet and can interact with your world before the endgame event, i got an event with then at the early game
That's a very interesting way of pronouncing vehement and the "Brits can't pronounce foreign" excuse doesn't really count with the entirely English word vehement (as in vehement denial).
It is a weird name though, what are they vehement about? Or is it just their general demeanour.
You should watch one of his Crusader Kings videos... He pronounces "Apostates" and "Apostles". Spiff may sound like a private school posh boy but his can't speak English for shit.
vehement is french
@@bhleyg1337 No, it comes from French. If it was French it would have the diacritics and would be pronounced differently.
@@DoddyIshamel As a loan-word directly copied into English, its technically considered to be both.
British English tries to keep the original pronunciation and spelling of such loan words, so even the pronunciation is mostly French in English - ergo pronouncing it as "veer", taking the "h" out.
However, over time, its become more standard to pronounce the "T" in most French loan words.
I find The Spiffing Brit's theory on the Unbidden election cycle very interesting. It's something like a Darwinistic Constitutional Monarchy. Only, you know, with inter-dimensional galaxy killers.
I don't think it their government has anything to do with our dimension. I think it's more likely that there civ pulled a Rome and when the last emporor died he had no successor so now different factions are trying to claim power (a bit like sengoko Japan)
That lore story idea is soooo amazing!!
I think that the eternal throne is some status or some kind of power booster for the interdimensional beings that they just fight over ,like we did in the medieval, they also fight for resources and territory in their own and other dimensions. Unbidden are propably, as was said in the video , very weak that is why they came as refuges.
That Live Story idea sounds great, I'd love to see that.
"There's always a bigger fish" - Obi Wan Kenobi
I believe that the empire of the three combined are the hunters and that they were trying to harvest the scourge dimension but started to fight each other because the emperor died
Please do more of stellaris games! That's something I thinkthe stellaris community would really enjoy
Might be because I'm up at 4am, but maybe the old faction on the throne was the hunters. Yet through the power struggle and loss of a leader for hundreds to thousands of years has caused them to become much like a fallen empire. They regressed a bit and had to start back at square one. It could also explain why they both can't be in the same game. The unbidden are technologically superior considering the only resources they need are pops and that they can make indestructible portals so long as extra dimensional anchors gold it in place. This power struggle is apparent too, being that if all three of the factions worked together, the game would likely end much quicker than as of now, fighting each other while having the secondary objective of claiming the galaxy. The precursors are much like the scourge, being once great but ultimately being ended by some outside force. Ultimately, every empire has fallen, so what says yours won't once the game ends? All civilizations want to expand more in one regard or another, so maybe it's inevitable that even the mightiest will always fall eventually, and death being the only certainty.
First time i ran into them i had been at peace for 150 years and built up a MASSIVE fleet and pushed their shit in in the first 2 years of their invasion lol
See you talk about them like this gigantic extradimensional empire that sees us as insignificant but I've seen multiple people annihilate the Unbidden without even realizing it lol
Since the Unbidden etc. get their resources by "cleaning" planets of sapient live, will they destroy uninhabited planets or planets inhabited by non-sapient liveforms?
Because if they wouldn't be got destroyed, it would be really weird that the Yuht have just found other liveforms just before the end of their empire and their species, IF your theory in your video about the Yuht Empire is right.
1:30 great idea lad, would love to hear of it
I think that the unbidden and gain power from harvesting energy from living things, and that the eternal throne is fought over in a battle and they harvest galaxies to get more power, and they try to stop eachother from harvesting galaxies to weaken competition
I think the Extradimensional Invaders are a form of multi-hivemind, where there are many different factions, each with their own collective consciousness. My guess is that the entire species was once one big collective, but something happened, the core mind died or something, and it split into several different ones. The Eternal Throne is the core mind, you gain the throne, you control all the Invaders, you become the core mind. That is why these three factions are fighting, they each want control over the entire collective, and reunite their species.
Really appreciate the skip marker at the begining
The unbidden just appeared in my game... Pfft like they could beat the British Empire *Laughs in Imperial*
a lore creation would be pretty darn cool in my opinion.
Your theory about seems close, it could also point to three kingdoms, each progressively bigger and stronger than the last, all chasing each other when the Unbidden tried to harvest our galaxy as a means for food. And considering they're energy beings, harvesting energy/life force/souls to be used for building material for making more ships, it's possible the Unbidden was currently the weakest of the three seeking out refuge to recoup their forces but in the middle of it all the Vehement caught them with their hand in the cookie jar, so to speak
That custom race would be the weirdest thing in existence. It's a great idea. By the way, there is an anomaly event that gives you an unbidden science ship.
Wish it did more
The Unbiden are basically the mongol invasions from CKII, just in space.
So this is what the tea drinker was doing back in the day 😮. And i just started stellaris
Lore of a playthrough sounds cool
The election theory seems needlessly elaborate based on info presented; The three definitely seem like different states in the same wider Empire, but a far more common reason could be given for their dialogue and fighting; They feed on organic matter or something in our universe which is sparse or non-existent in their own (and exists uniquely on habitable planets). The traditional sources of food appear to have dwindled (per "At last" comment) leading to a resource shortage that led the wider Extra-Dimensional Invader Empire (The Eternal Throne) to sunder into at least 3 factions. It's also possible that the "At Last" comment might also merely be a statement on the part of the Unbidden who may be losing pretty badly and thus in need of resources in a way that the other factions are not (in which case this could be a simple war of succession). So the player galaxy serves as a sort of colonial front for a massive civil war for the throne where they serve as a key source of resources for the various pretenders to the throne.
One eerie possibility which the videos don't consider is that the event seems to imply that this isn't a massive evacuation or refugees fleeing to another world but rather a small expeditionary force aiming at collecting resources from their "feeding ground". This is why they are able to send seemingly infinite fleets, rather what they are limited by seems to be their connection to the galaxy proper. Hence, it's possible that with a "wider" rift or if more were opened by reckless use of Psi Drives, that even more could spill into that galaxy. So it may be that the Scourge are fleeing from the Unbidden; the portal in their home galaxy was wider and their home systems were squashed by a much larger sortee due to more portals and/or a greater capacity to support fleets through them.
Wait there was extra lore to them? A fallen empire always killed them before they took 15% in my games
Yeah, 15% sounds kinda much.
It looks more like the writers give you three different semi-random lines to give you the feeling that the unbiden and his friends doesn't care about you.
(Yeah... I'm not fun at parties)
maybe the eternal throne is something like the mandate of heaven for the Chinese. the three are probably one of the many different warlords of the eternal empire and are trying to recreate the empire (the empire has probably shattered) they either must annex each other or destroy each other to stop any other claim on the Throne (well damn ... that's basically what you theorised lol)
All those ideas at the start sound interesting.
Looks like a strange triumvirate vying for power and resources
So when are we going to get the Yuht lore video? Love this series by the way. Keep them coming.
I would love to hear a multiplayer lore!
My Empire is just a tiny blip on the grand scheme of things?
Tell that to my race of Cthulhu people who allied with a Fallen Empire to whoop the Unbidden's asses within 20 years of their first appearance. We both just kept slamming 100k fleets into them repeatedly like waves crashing over rocks until finally the rocks gave. Luckily, it was my fleet that struck the final blow so I got credit for the victory and +20 opinion from everyone for saving the Galaxy.
Having done our work, we decided to become a Fallen Empire, ceded most of our territory to the human empire that we personally grew and cultivated over 200 years from a primitive society within our borders to an interstellar, multi-species nation, and retired to our former Core sector with 2 100k fleets and several systems full of Megastructures, colonies, and massive starbases. We then became what I call a "Grandfather Empire", giving out resources to young nations who needed them like a grandparent gives candy to their grandchildren, and advising the older empires on matters of state and science.
Course we shifted to xenophobic at some point before the retreat, and with a God-Empress in the form of "The Exalted One", we weren't the xenophile, spiritualist, pacifists we started out as, but just because we want to be left alone most of the time, doesn't mean we ignore the rest of the galaxy.
Ahhh...that was a good game.
The unbidden be gangsta, untill the "ceth" outnumber them 3 to 1 with both numbers and fleet power.
I am very prideful of my grandest empire
I'd love a lore story of your game!
I believe the same as you except that except that stuff is different “their lives millennia long the last king of the ghjh’kk dynasty was dead -heirless . To the Milky Way galaxy to loot the kingdom with the most booty’s dynasty ascends to the eternal throne !”
+1 on live lore creation
You should open the stream game for other players too. We would all roleplay our races, could be fun.
I’m playing a Stellaris game and the Unbidden lasted 0.00000000000286 seconds before they were bitchslapped back into their own dimension
Live lore and the lore of the big game coming up would be cool.
Live lore creation would be great, yes