I slightly disagree with the image quality. Having used both, I feel like the Pyxis has a slightly more clinical look, while the 6k Pro has a little more of that film magic. It's not a huge difference, but I did notice this
@@leebrandt8597 Thanks for sharing! I love the look of both and with grading I find I get similar results. But I do prefer the depth and immersive feeling of the full frame sensor :).
0:00 - Intro 2:20 - The Similarities 2:56 - The Differences 7:42 - The Pros Of The 6K Pro 9:57 - The Pros Of The Pyxis 12:45 - Image Comparison 14:08 - Which One Should You Get thank you for the video! 🌟
Thanks for this comparison. I started with the 6K G2, which was not the best choice to be honest, due to the lack of brightness on the monitor... and the $500 EVF add-on is actually a pain to use. This year I added the 6KFF, which I like very much. Then I went down the rabbit hole with a BMPCC 4K, and several micro studio cameras. I recently shot a conference with them tied to an ATEM switcher, and I actually like them a lot. I have a set of Meike S35s, Canon 16-35 & 70-200, as well as the Sirui Nightwalkers and a couple of Sirui Anamorphics. I have to say, my favorite imagery comes out of the BMPCC 4K with the Nightwalkers and the Sirui Anamorphics. I love everything you've shared from the Vespid Retros and the Arles primes... they're pure magic!
The 4k still blows me away with it's image. For the price, the image quality punches way far above what one would expect. I love it so much that I sold off my Fuji XH2-S as I prefer the image of the 4k. It has such a soft, but beautiful look.
Been looking forward to this video as I have the 6k pro and the 4k. The 4K’s ability to shoot 4K braw without a crop gives it an edge for me as the only way to shoot full sensor 4k on the pocket 6k pro is in ProRes, but that produces way bigger file sizes (pretty much 50 gigs more over a one hour period when comparing 422LT and Braw 12:1). I still live in Super 35 world basically, so the ability to shoot 4k braw on the Pyxis entices me
i can see from this video, Having the functionality of both cameras together is pretty amazing,. between the two of them many use cases they can address. This includes broad functionality as well as a form factor pleasing to clients.
Awesome content bro! Subscribed. Had one quick thought though, not sure if you used the same lens on the rolling shutter test but it looks like the PYXIS was shot at a longer focal length because it is zoomed in compared to the 6K Pro. Rolling shutter will appear worse on longer focal lengths, so that could be why it seems worse on PYXIS. It is in fact worse when comparing open gate, but if you compare 16:9 6K they are almost identical readout speeds it appears
Thanks mate! I actually shot with the same lens and also with similar field of view. Was pretty much the same. I chose to include the one that was closest in term of framing for the sake of the video's ratio.
Great video! I do wonder how the Pyxis compares to the Ursas (the older ones). Like the 4.6K G2, 12K and Broadcast G2 using EF or PL mount since I haven't seen many documentarians use B4 lenses.
Thanks!! I had the UMP 4.6 and used the 12k. Personally I think they’re aimed at different style and production sizes. The Pyxis can be super minimal or fully rigged up so it is more versatile in my opinion. But it lacking NDs and high frame rates. The image is always great on BM cameras.
Great presentation as usual Flo. if possible can you do a side by side comparison with both ff cameras with the same lens, same view same everything especially camera placement. Not side by side or anything like that. Simply exact same cameras location. It seems to me that the bmcc6k ff is a tad wider. I know you touched on this before on your first comparison video but I've seen other tests and I could be wrong' to me it looks like the bmff is wider? Thanks again for the work you put in Flo
I would say that the Pyxis cropped to s35 is BETTER rolling shutter than the 6k Pro. I often shoot with an APS-C lens on my 6k FF for better handheld movements
Bmpcc6k pro, filtre IR obligatoire sur l'objectif. Les ND interne ne sont pas fait pour. Je ne comprendrai jamais que personne le mentionne. Sinon ça fait des images de grand malades. Mais filtre IR.
I have two 6KPros - Pyxis just doesn’t do it for me after watching this - ND’s - Two XLRs - No Need for another Monitor - ProRes Recording - My clients never need anamorphic deliveries so who cares about that
Here is a comparison between the new Blackmagic Pyxis 6K and the BMPCC6K Pro.
Which one would you pick and why?
Cheers,
Flo
I slightly disagree with the image quality. Having used both, I feel like the Pyxis has a slightly more clinical look, while the 6k Pro has a little more of that film magic. It's not a huge difference, but I did notice this
@@leebrandt8597 Thanks for sharing! I love the look of both and with grading I find I get similar results. But I do prefer the depth and immersive feeling of the full frame sensor :).
0:00 - Intro
2:20 - The Similarities
2:56 - The Differences
7:42 - The Pros Of The 6K Pro
9:57 - The Pros Of The Pyxis
12:45 - Image Comparison
14:08 - Which One Should You Get
thank you for the video! 🌟
Thanks ☺️🙏
Thanks for this comparison. I started with the 6K G2, which was not the best choice to be honest, due to the lack of brightness on the monitor... and the $500 EVF add-on is actually a pain to use. This year I added the 6KFF, which I like very much. Then I went down the rabbit hole with a BMPCC 4K, and several micro studio cameras. I recently shot a conference with them tied to an ATEM switcher, and I actually like them a lot. I have a set of Meike S35s, Canon 16-35 & 70-200, as well as the Sirui Nightwalkers and a couple of Sirui Anamorphics. I have to say, my favorite imagery comes out of the BMPCC 4K with the Nightwalkers and the Sirui Anamorphics. I love everything you've shared from the Vespid Retros and the Arles primes... they're pure magic!
The 4k still blows me away with it's image. For the price, the image quality punches way far above what one would expect. I love it so much that I sold off my Fuji XH2-S as I prefer the image of the 4k. It has such a soft, but beautiful look.
I am between this two cameras, perfect timing for this video
Nice! Hopefully it will help you out :)
Thanks for the detailed breakdown, very helpful!
@@brittacurkovic Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you 🙏
Nice video, and thank you for making it! 😊 Taking on L Mount, having great anamorphic support, and an OLPF, makes me think of this as the S1H mk2!!
@@the_black_douglas9041 Thanks for watching 🙏🙏
Amazing comparison, Flo!
Thank you guys ☺️🙏
Cinema6K FF owner here, but I always enjoy your videos and learn something.
Thanks for the kind feedback!!
Been looking forward to this video as I have the 6k pro and the 4k. The 4K’s ability to shoot 4K braw without a crop gives it an edge for me as the only way to shoot full sensor 4k on the pocket 6k pro is in ProRes, but that produces way bigger file sizes (pretty much 50 gigs more over a one hour period when comparing 422LT and Braw 12:1).
I still live in Super 35 world basically, so the ability to shoot 4k braw on the Pyxis entices me
Hopefully you find it helpful :)
@@OfTwoLandsdefinitely mate
The 4K Options on the Pyxis really are useful! I personally like the ability to shoot in 16x9 BRAW too.
Très claire comme d'habitude, je mets un comm juste pour le référencement :)
@@killian2826 Merci beaucoup!! ☺️🙏
i can see from this video, Having the functionality of both cameras together is pretty amazing,. between the two of them many use cases they can address. This includes broad functionality as well as a form factor pleasing to clients.
Indeed :)
Thanks for another excellent video. Of course another great selling point for either camera is the included licence for Davinci Resolve Studio.
Thanks mate, and yes totally!!
Great comparison! Thanks! :)
Thanks for watching mate :)
Great stuff, please do a comparison between the Ursa and the Pyxis!
Thanks!! I should get my hands on the Ursa Cine 12K asap :)
Awesome content bro! Subscribed. Had one quick thought though, not sure if you used the same lens on the rolling shutter test but it looks like the PYXIS was shot at a longer focal length because it is zoomed in compared to the 6K Pro. Rolling shutter will appear worse on longer focal lengths, so that could be why it seems worse on PYXIS.
It is in fact worse when comparing open gate, but if you compare 16:9 6K they are almost identical readout speeds it appears
Thanks mate!
I actually shot with the same lens and also with similar field of view. Was pretty much the same. I chose to include the one that was closest in term of framing for the sake of the video's ratio.
they are both beautiful. Very beautiful
Indeed 🤩
Great video! I do wonder how the Pyxis compares to the Ursas (the older ones). Like the 4.6K G2, 12K and Broadcast G2 using EF or PL mount since I haven't seen many documentarians use B4 lenses.
Thanks!! I had the UMP 4.6 and used the 12k. Personally I think they’re aimed at different style and production sizes. The Pyxis can be super minimal or fully rigged up so it is more versatile in my opinion. But it lacking NDs and high frame rates. The image is always great on BM cameras.
Great review mate. When you’re rigging the Pyxis with external batteries are you still using a small internal battery so you can hot swap?
Thanks!! Not at the moment. I either use bpus or v lock. But I might do that on long shoots!
Great presentation as usual Flo.
if possible can you do a side by side comparison with both ff cameras with the same lens, same view same everything especially camera placement. Not side by side or anything like that. Simply exact same cameras location. It seems to me that the bmcc6k ff is a tad wider. I know you touched on this before on your first comparison video but I've seen other tests and I could be wrong' to me it looks like the bmff is wider?
Thanks again for the work you put in Flo
Thanks for the positive feedback mate!!
Both FF cameras would be identical in terms of FOV, but I'll keep that in mind :)
Thanks for sharing! 👏👏🙋♂
Thanks for watching ☺️🙏
I love your content so much. Is there any way you can do a Pyxis nd/vnd set up breakdown?
Thank you!! I’ve only used the NISI Swift system on the Pyxis so far ☺️
Rolling shutter is a deal breaker for me (Motorsport, f1, auto), what a shame because the camera is awesome.
I would say that the Pyxis cropped to s35 is BETTER rolling shutter than the 6k Pro. I often shoot with an APS-C lens on my 6k FF for better handheld movements
Makes sense!
Nice!
I know this is a good man because he's getting his kids into Anime young 🖖🖖
@@MightyMigi 😂😂 Of course!!
The 6K Pro can also be bought used for 1900 USD.
Yes, crazy good value!
I would add, that the electronic NDs can fail over time. I had two P6kPro’s start to wig out on me
I got mines for $1200 last month, people are trying to upgrade do just make them an offer
Please do Pyxis vs Ursa Mini Pro 12K next?
@@mrandrewappel I don’t have the Ursa mini pro 12k at the moment but I should get my hands on the Cine 12k ☺️🤩
@@OfTwoLands I have the opposite. I have the 12K and 6K pro but no pyxis to compare to :D
@@kinoromantic sounds like you and @OfTwoLands need to do a collab and swap
@@mrandrewappel I think we should 🤙🏼
Just messaged you on ig
You must compare with the 6k fullframe bm, not the apsc
@@RecWaltfilm I did..
Is there a way to use the 6kpro vf on the pyxis? Would make a good lower cost option
I don't think so, not the same connections and I don't think you can adapt.
In your opinion is is worth it to invest in the rawlite olpf for the 6k pro?
I personally wouldn’t but that’s just me :)
OLPF Filter? this camera needs an after market filter?
About to sell my 6k pro. And ordered the Pyxis
@@LuisGrolez congrats ☺️👏
Also just bought the Arles
@@OfTwoLandsmerci
Would the 6k pro be a good 2nd camera on an interview shoot? If I purchased the canon pyxis?
yessss
Bmpcc6k pro, filtre IR obligatoire sur l'objectif. Les ND interne ne sont pas fait pour. Je ne comprendrai jamais que personne le mentionne. Sinon ça fait des images de grand malades. Mais filtre IR.
Ca dépend des conditions et des objectifs. J’ai filmé pas mal de projects avec les nd internes et ça passe ☺️👍
To me the pocket is better. I dont need a box, i want my camera usuable right out the box.
Great that it works for you! I love the Pocket cameras :)
I have two 6KPros - Pyxis just doesn’t do it for me after watching this - ND’s - Two XLRs - No Need for another Monitor - ProRes Recording - My clients never need anamorphic deliveries so who cares about that
Great that you are happy with the 6K Pro, love that cam :)
Anyone want to buy my P6K Pro? 😅
@@westwolf117 😂😂
Pyxis has no hdmi ports? Not everyone needs sdi. Too bad
Both would have been awesome for sure! You can still use a monitor via the usb c.