I’m a Master Plumber and would have no problem using sharkbite fittings. Yes, it’s sealed by a rubber O-ring, but so are ProPress fittings. Sharkbite fittings have been extensively engineered, tested, and retested. They can hold up to 200psi, 2.5 times the pressure you would see in most homes which is 80psi max. They’re also rated to 200 degrees. That’s darn near the boiling point of water! After doing some research, I found out that “push fittings” were invented for maritime applications as a quick way to make a repair to a ship’s water supply. Every old school plumber that I’ve talked to who hates sharkbite, when I ask why they hate them, the only answer I get is, “They leak”. Give me a break! I’ve seen them leak, but only because of improper installation. You can’t cut copper pipe with a hacksaw and install a sharkbite fitting, it will slice the o-ring. I’ve also seen them blow off because they were not seated all the way on to the pipe. I’ve seen two that blew off because they froze, but in both cases you could see deep teeth marks on the pipe, where the teeth inside the fitting were trying to grab onto the pipe! Perhaps some old school plumbers don’t like them, because they are too easy to install? It’s a good product, but not cheap. Granted I wouldn’t Plumb an entire house with sharkbite fittings, that would get expensive. I’ve seen push fittings on drinking fountains, a few faucets, and water filter systems (these fittings installed by the manufacturer!). If it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me. Speaking of ProPress. A guy who I went through trade school with went to work for a company who’s owner didn’t believe in sharkbite and was too cheap to buy a ProPress. Tech’s would have to wait sometimes a very long time and fight to get all the water out of the pipe to start soldering. Until one day a very experienced tech was soldering, trying to make a repair and touched the paper backing on some wall insulation with the tip of the torch flame. There was fire damage. The owners insurance cost went up. The next week the owner of the company went out and bought 4 ProPress machines (tax write off for him) and forbid soldering inside buildings! All soldering had to be done outside. If a tech couldn’t fit the ProPress gun into an area to make a repair, a sharkbite fitting suddenly became acceptable to use! Funny how things change when you start talking insurance liability and company reputation... Now that company uses almost all ProPress fittings on every copper job they do. They found out that even though the fittings are more expensive, the cost is offset because there is less prep work to the pipe, no prep work to the fittings, no cost of Gas, solder, or Flux, and ProPress is quicker to install. Plus you don’t have to get all of that aggravating water out of the pipe... Sorry for the rant. Keep up the good work Claude!
So what is a master plumber there Rob? In some states a master plumber is someone that past the state or city test and is not an apprentice anymore. In other states a master plumber is a 4 generation plumber from a family of plumbers. So what is a master Plumber? Some master plumbers are house plumbers and never worked on anything but a resident. Some master plumbers have a full range of understanding of the trade and are mechanics as the Plumbers in the Plumbers and pipefitters union call themselves. So Once again, What is a master plumber? Hmm and you don't have a problem with sharkbits? Do you as a master plumber understand sheer forces. Some tradesmen understand the engineering and physics of mechanical engineering. Plumbing falls into that section of engineering. Hmm. You suggest that the cut on copper pipe has to be correct when using a sharkbit. Ok well cutting copper with a chop saw make a cut that is often without need of reaming but it is a good idea to use your pencil reamer anyway. I will ask you this> How much movement on the pipe will cause the sharkbit to lose it's integret? Does water hammer cause movement of pipe regularly? not to mention ground movement in some areas of this country. What is the sheer force need on a pex joint or a soldered copper joint verses your sharkbit to cause failure? Master Plumber?
I have been looking all over the place on how to install the toilet,vanity and shower and hook it up to the saniflow toilet. You took the time to explain and actually took it apart and put it back together.Of any videos, I have ever seen yours is the best ever. thank you so much and now I can go put mine together. Bravo
Best installation video I've seen on a Saniflo bathroom setup. I'm installing one in my home myself. This is a really good guide on how to get this done 👍🏾
Great video. Installing one of these in my basement and there’s not a lot of good videos that are as detailed as yours. Thank you. I learned a lot and feel more confident about getting it all done!
@@kurash2 I installed an upflow toilet in my basement and so far the experience has been great. We’ve had it for about 6 months. We opted for the higher product with the stronger macerator and so far everything has been ok. The toilet itself doesn’t carry as much water in it, so cleaning it is a bit more work. As long as you keep up with that and install it correctly, I think it’s an absolutely fantastic option if you don’t want to bust holes into your foundation or have other difficult situations.
I have one of these toilets in my sub basement (below grade) worked amazingly for years. just about to replace the macerating pump after 12 years.....and yes I have a shower and a sink attached to this, with no problems what so ever. awesome vid! keep up the great work!
Man, you came through in this video... I'm about to do 2 units meeting a 4 cast stack with no existing vents in the install area... This really gives me feel for it. I'm always learning new (to me) stuff.
I feel your an excellent teacher. Earlier today we were looking to add a toilet in the basement. I need an upflow drain because our bacement drain is in the wall about 2' up from bacement floor. I have remodeled many bathrooms and kitchens however never an upflush system. After waching your video I am comfortable to tackling this project. Thank you Tim DeLauder
installing saniflo pro in our basement, toilet ,32 x 60 shower,lav, washer , will be checking in with you as we progress ,may have question, THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO ITS VERY HELPFUL !
Great job love how you show many different options of plumbing supplies you can use and showed a full video love it will be watching in the future here are 👍👍👍 three thumbs up. Peace ✌☮
If you had placed the pan gasket ( the according looking one) with the narrow side on the pump side, with the zip tie, it wouldn't of been so hard to get over the pipe. This is where lots of people rip the pan gasket stretching it too much. Great Video!!!! Thanks for making it!
Thank you for the video. I am looking to install a 1/2 bath (toilet and sink) in an unused closet in our basement. Our basement has outside access via an egress door. As we build out a small "Studio basement apartment" for future rental income, we are looking at the options available. This video allowed me to feel more confident in what parts I could do on my own. Thanks for the video and for the very detailed explanation of the installation process! This definitely helped me feel more confident in taking on this work on my own.
Great Video. Do you have any concerns that the unground waste remains in the folds of the rubber like accordian connections starting to cause a restriction after time?
Well, yes that is what they say, but what there talking about is to not tie it in to another vent that's already venting plumbing fixtures, but you can tie it into the main vent. Hope this helps
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time and support stopping by my channel. I am always humbled that there are people out there like yourself with encouraging words. 🙏
Thanks for that link. Maybe I am reading the codes wrong, but unless the pump in your video is pneumatic, P3113.4.1 says that other than pneumatic, I can use the house vent. Only pneumatic pumps (P3113.4.2) need to have their own dedicated vent. I am asking because I am going to install a pump, and want to do it right. Thanks again sir.
@@jessehill6366 If you're doing it day in and day out it might be worth the effort.. but for an "every once in a while" type use... making a jig is a lot of extra work and will take longer than just doing the cuts.
wow you showed me better than anybody else on youtube, I have a question can I attach a shower , toilet , sink. , and a utility sink for the washer as well would it be to much ?
Great Question It seems the upflush company is requiring you to upsize the venting as a precaution, even though your current venting setup may be adequate for the existing plumbing fixtures in your home. Plumbing systems require proper venting to allow air to enter the system, preventing siphonage and backpressure. The size and configuration of the venting must be capable of handling the maximum drainage load based on the number and types of fixtures in the plumbing system. My assumption is that while your current venting may technically be large enough for the current fixtures you have, the inspector wants you to upsize it now to account for any potential future expansion. By upsizing the venting now, you ensure the system will be equipped to handle additional fixtures if you add them later - for example if you finish the basement and add a bathroom down there. The inspector is trying to save you from having to modify the venting later if you do add more drainage load to the system. In summary, the inspector is taking a cautious approach and having you oversize the venting to anticipate possible future needs. This avoids grandfathering in an undersized vent system that could require expensive modifications if you add more fixtures. Let me know if this explanation makes sense or if you need any clarification!
@@theartofplumbingyes makes sense. Just asking because I have a unit like this already tied into my house vent. Was like that when I bought the place. Watched your video in case I ever have to work on it. By the way your video is great. Watched 3 different ones and yours is the only one I left thinking this is a piece of cake if I ever need to fix something
What is the reason for venting the upflush alone? where I want to install the upflush in my basement my house vent is right above it. Can I just plumb the vent into my house vent? I seen my answer in the comments thanks for the video.
Loved it. THanks. You adapted from 3/4 to 1/5" before the gravity fall. I contacted Saniflo help they said to do it after the gravity fall. ANy comment? Very interested in your reply. THnkas again
I'm installing a second bathroom in a single-wide residential mobile home. The home is installed on blocks as a crawlspace foundation, and doesn't have enough height in the sewage drain line for a second connection. A second septic system would have cost over $7,000.00. The SFA macerator unit with a back flush toilet allows installation of a second bathroom where a bathroom was impossible feasibly and in an affordable budget.
Great idea. Perfect. That's what I'm talking about. You can't beat the versatility of the up flush toilet. Any were you want a bathroom is possible. 👍👍
Mr. Taylor, great video. But I am confused about HOW could I run my ventilation tube out without connecting to the MAIN plumbing vent? That is a major problem, as I would have to drill though the 1st floor ceiling, 2nd floor ceiling, attic and then the roof. Is that correct? It not, could I just tap the saniflo vent into the main plumbing anyway? What could happen? Thanks much! 😊
Depending on the plumbing codes in your area yours may be different. It may be possible that you can run your vent out and up the outside wall, but if your in an area where it freezes that won't work. What I have done in the past when installing a bath in the basement. I would run basement plumbing vents up and through the back of a closet on the floor above. It can be done just to be a little creative.
Hi, I was wondering what kind of solution I can use in my upflush toilet when is not in use for a long time, up to a year, or it needs to flush frequently? I was thinking clorine or any regular toilet cleaner.
Really I'm not sure, first time that been brought. I don't think bleach or toilet cleaners would be good, that may it at the rubber seals, I would recommend checking with the manufacturer.
Good question, I see your concern, but first it's recommended by the company that makes them, second your main vent in your home may be maxed out already. up.codes/s/vent-pipe-sizing
@@theartofplumbing it's going to be tough, but I think I can get it in a diagonal piece of 4" cast drain in the drop ceiling... SMH... It's better safe than sorry... The 2" would be way easier, but you know how it goes. If you didn't know, I knew I was in trouble 😂
Your right it is. But it gets a little costly with brass nipples. Not sure if the value adds up to the longevity. I have worked on many homes with galvanized and its been installed over 50 years with no issues.
Oh yes. That would be a great place for that. I've been thinking about building a tiny house and doing that myself. You're on to something, keep those creative juices flowing. Thinking outside the box. Thank you for the comment.
I'm installing one of this toilets but the tank seems to wobble slightly. The bolts are already tight, is this normal? I've checked the gasket and it is on correctly
I know this is now almost a 4yr. old video but my question is. I want to install this upflush toilet in my finished basement so does the venting have to be out through the back wall or must it be connected to the current venting system?
According to the company that make these toilets recommend that the vent from this toilet is discharged separately from the house vent. It's the same recommendation that anyone that has a sump pump in their basement is required to have a separate vent from the house vent.
@@theartofplumbing I have an unrelated question thought I'll ask so I turned off the the main water valve for my house because I remodel the two bathrooms upstairs gutted everything out when I was finished everything worked fine except the on of the bathrooms sinks water pressure is low and weak would you know what would be the cause of that? Thanks for time and help 🙏
@@theartofplumbing thanks i have removed them before everything was pretty much new its weird because its only that sink on the the main floor and the bathroom above it works just fine
hey can you tell us what it the exact name of the out pipe in 1 inch? i buy a used kit and i dont have any info about it its a 1 inch pvc standard pipe? thanks !!
Could you post more details on the concrete anchors and brass? anchor screws you used to fasten the toilet to the concrete? I need to fasten mine to concrete and was wondering where I could buy those parts.
Thanks for making and editing this video. After install and you using toliet for some time, any issues with the Zip tie? Seems like a hose clamp would be better.
Very slowly. Back and forth from one side to the other. Don't rush it. If your not comfortable tightening down tank play it safe and call a professional👍
Hello! I am going to do the Saniflo system in my basement soon. Close towards the front of my house. The problem i think i’m overthinking is the discharge line and the vent line. My main stack is a distance from where the bathroom would be and my original bathroom is pretty much aligned with it. The utility sink is more close to where the bathroom is going. Could i use the utility drain or do I need to run pipes from one end (where bathroom will be) to the other end of my basement? Also, as far as the vent line/pipe if I do make a new line do I have to run it all the way up to the roof? Or can i just make a hole and have it only coming out a couple feet? Sorry for long question I’m a diy’er just trying to figure it out before jumping right out.
Hi plumberx, awesome video. Actually one of the best start to finish installs that I've seen. Quick question, if you were to add a shower to the left of the toilet, how would you tie in the supply lines for that? Thanks in advance.
First off u described everything to the T!! Question for you.. Im in the process of installing a Saniflow Saniaccess 2 for a half bath. Can you angle the discharge host on top or does it have to be horizontal? I'm running it on an angle behind my wall and i have my main wasteline running behind it with a 2 inch vertical pipe running into the waste (existing kitchen sink line to the wasteline i need to run the flexible hose this comes with vertical before i can go horizontal and then down to the vertical tee y cut into that sink line.. Should i have a problem? or am I good
@@theartofplumbing Hmm I have seen a few diff vids where it says do not do this. Do you know ? Does it have to be so high ? Mine is going in the basement. Can it just stub out at the sill level ? Kinda like if you had a dryer vent stubbed out your basement ? Thanks for the input. I have a pump up system in my Basement just for a washing machine. It has a one way valve on it. It's tied in to my plumbing and to the main and vent stack been working fine for well over 30 years. Not sure why this would be any diff ?
Could you use the outside vent on a sewage pit? I looked into the sanaflo. We cant afford it. By putting a sewage pit it's more affordable. I thought the grinder pump only has a 1 to 2 year warranty?
Great question. Plumbing code. Theory, prevent sewer gas and smell from intering the home in case some has a door or window open. Vent should be extended 2' of above door or window. Hope this helps. I appreciate support. Also if door or window is less then 4'away from vent.
@@theartofplumbing makes perfect sense thanks for the reply back. My case the vent would stub under my back deck and have to run up the wall could I reduce the pipe size? So as it would be visible on the deck I could paint it and try to not make it such a eye sore? Thanks
@@greenreviews3391 if your up north no. In the south warm weather. You can use 1/4. Up north to small it will freeze over vent and you won't get any vent.
Great video, but I'll never use sharkbites or any push fitting type for permanent installations. I've came across too many plumbing jobs with failed push fittings. Even though, the majority of the time the fail was because of improper installation. I just can put any trust in any push fitting...just my opinion!
Have a question could you plumb in a shower and a sink in the same side of the box/pump? Saying that the shower and the sink is to the left of the toilet could you just use 1 drain line for them both to come into the box?
Sure, but you don't want to connect it to your vent. That may be the easiest spot to put it, but only in a warmer climate area. Like here in the south. But if you do live in a cold climate area and you're going to make a room in the attic and insulate it😏 a good idea. Thanks.
Hellooooo - love this! Does anyone know a good plumber or contractor near Toledo Ohio that could handle this job? And how much might I expect to pay - general range - for installation in a basement with a shower and sink? Thanks if anyone has any info!
I understand, but the tank that the waste flush to has a punk grinder that grinds up all the waist that makes it possible to flush the waste into a 1-in drain.
Great video! Thanks so much. One question: why are you saying that the saniflo vent pipe must be separate from the other house plumbing vent system? I read over the saniflo install documents, and did not see that stipulation.
Thank you for your support. Sorry but I may have miss spoke. You can run the vent to the main vent in the home, but on this job it would have been to much time and to much trouble to tie back into the main vent. 👍
@@theartofplumbing can you name the brand and model of the Sink you installed in the saniflo video? That looks just right for me application. Thanks again.
It's a nice sink for the price. Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing: MUSTEE Utilatub Combo 24 in. x 18 in. Polypropylene Floor Mounted Laundry Tub in White www.homedepot.com/p/MUSTEE-Utilatub-Combo-24-in-x-18-in-Polypropylene-Floor-Mounted-Laundry-Tub-in-White-21CP/203579727
Check out this list Saniflow Products from How To Plumbing www.amazon.com/shop/howtoplumbing?listId=3BSYAA7NHNNVL&ref=exp_inf_sh_list_own_howtoplumbing this may help. Pricing right here.
Great Video! I have a saniflo that kept gurgling after a flush like it did not have enough power to push up the sewage from the tank. I have talked to the saniflo tech people and they said it might be the bladder and the capacitor. So needless to say I had to buy the items. Two things to ask: with the gurgling do you think there might be something stuck in the up flush pipe that would cause such noise or do you think it is the pipe with the flap on the unit that could be causing the issue? Also, the installer that put the toilet in used the bolts to go directly inter the concrete. When I attempted to take the bolts out they broke off. Still have some of it in the concrete as I write this. How would you go about drilling new holes and extracting the bolds and putting a bolt in there and using a nut to secure the bowel like you did? Thanks, D
@How To Plumbing, you said if you was installing a utility sink, normally you would use a sanitary tee and tap into a vent. Could you just tap into the stack itself, then it would still be vented? What tool do you need to cut the stainless steel supply lines? Also, how much does a job like this cost?
Yes normally I would install a vent after the trap, but this United is vented at the pumping system. No need to tap into the stack here just catch a run. I cut the supply line with copper tubing cutters.
Thx! I understand that part, just curious to know would studer vents be efficient for laundry tubs? I figured copper cutters would do the job! I'm a apprentice so I not fairly new, just been out of the game for awhile.
Forgot to ask, what state are you in, and how hard is it to get a plumber's license? I'm not good on venting, so any pointers on how to become efficient in it?
Venting can be difficult to understand, but with some practice and proper guidens. I would start by studying the venting system with ( how to plumbing charts ) how to size vents were s vent should go. Also remember different state and city have different plumbing codes for venting and plumbing in general. I've been lic in three different States. Stick to the basics when in dought ask your local inspectors. Hope this helps
The discharge outlet from the tank provided in the package is a 90 degree bend; the manufacturer recommends no greater than 45 bend be used on the outlet. It stresses the pump motor.
I See what you're saying, yes it's a little more costly then most standard toilets, but as a new install you come out cheaper, because you don't have to dig up cement and install plumbing on the floor. You come out way cheaper with this toilet.
Old school But then SHARKBITE 🤣🤣 IMPORTANT QUESTION must discharge use 45s just 🤔🤔 why they give 90s I've done 100s of these 1 home owner is complainer sewer gases any pointers
I’m a Master Plumber and would have no problem using sharkbite fittings. Yes, it’s sealed by a rubber O-ring, but so are ProPress fittings. Sharkbite fittings have been extensively engineered, tested, and retested. They can hold up to 200psi, 2.5 times the pressure you would see in most homes which is 80psi max. They’re also rated to 200 degrees. That’s darn near the boiling point of water! After doing some research, I found out that “push fittings” were invented for maritime applications as a quick way to make a repair to a ship’s water supply. Every old school plumber that I’ve talked to who hates sharkbite, when I ask why they hate them, the only answer I get is, “They leak”. Give me a break! I’ve seen them leak, but only because of improper installation. You can’t cut copper pipe with a hacksaw and install a sharkbite fitting, it will slice the o-ring. I’ve also seen them blow off because they were not seated all the way on to the pipe. I’ve seen two that blew off because they froze, but in both cases you could see deep teeth marks on the pipe, where the teeth inside the fitting were trying to grab onto the pipe! Perhaps some old school plumbers don’t like them, because they are too easy to install? It’s a good product, but not cheap. Granted I wouldn’t Plumb an entire house with sharkbite fittings, that would get expensive. I’ve seen push fittings on drinking fountains, a few faucets, and water filter systems (these fittings installed by the manufacturer!). If it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me.
Speaking of ProPress. A guy who I went through trade school with went to work for a company who’s owner didn’t believe in sharkbite and was too cheap to buy a ProPress. Tech’s would have to wait sometimes a very long time and fight to get all the water out of the pipe to start soldering. Until one day a very experienced tech was soldering, trying to make a repair and touched the paper backing on some wall insulation with the tip of the torch flame. There was fire damage. The owners insurance cost went up. The next week the owner of the company went out and bought 4 ProPress machines (tax write off for him) and forbid soldering inside buildings! All soldering had to be done outside. If a tech couldn’t fit the ProPress gun into an area to make a repair, a sharkbite fitting suddenly became acceptable to use! Funny how things change when you start talking insurance liability and company reputation... Now that company uses almost all ProPress fittings on every copper job they do. They found out that even though the fittings are more expensive, the cost is offset because there is less prep work to the pipe, no prep work to the fittings, no cost of Gas, solder, or Flux, and ProPress is quicker to install. Plus you don’t have to get all of that aggravating water out of the pipe...
Sorry for the rant. Keep up the good work Claude!
wow very detailed...thanks for the info
i will have a plumer install this unit
@ Rob Theisen .... Very interesting and 100% helpful, useful details. I learned much from your comment. Thank you!
Thank you. Someone gets it. 🙏Nice
So what is a master plumber there Rob? In some states a master plumber is someone that past the state or city test and is not an apprentice anymore. In other states a master plumber is a 4 generation plumber from a family of plumbers. So what is a master Plumber? Some master plumbers are house plumbers and never worked on anything but a resident. Some master plumbers have a full range of understanding of the trade and are mechanics as the Plumbers in the Plumbers and pipefitters union call themselves. So Once again, What is a master plumber? Hmm and you don't have a problem with sharkbits? Do you as a master plumber understand sheer forces. Some tradesmen understand the engineering and physics of mechanical engineering. Plumbing falls into that section of engineering. Hmm. You suggest that the cut on copper pipe has to be correct when using a sharkbit. Ok well cutting copper with a chop saw make a cut that is often without need of reaming but it is a good idea to use your pencil reamer anyway. I will ask you this> How much movement on the pipe will cause the sharkbit to lose it's integret? Does water hammer cause movement of pipe regularly? not to mention ground movement in some areas of this country. What is the sheer force need on a pex joint or a soldered copper joint verses your sharkbit to cause failure? Master Plumber?
@@fuckoff4581I installed some on my shower almost 10 years ago. Still no leaks. You are a dolt.
I have been looking all over the place on how to install the toilet,vanity and shower and hook it up to the saniflow toilet. You took the time to explain and actually took it apart and put it back together.Of any videos, I have ever seen yours is the best ever. thank you so much and
now I can go put mine together. Bravo
Nice. Thank you I appreciate your support. Have a great Holiday 🙏
Best installation video I've seen on a Saniflo bathroom setup.
I'm installing one in my home myself. This is a really good guide on how to get this done 👍🏾
Thank you I appreciate your support
Great video. Installing one of these in my basement and there’s not a lot of good videos that are as detailed as yours. Thank you. I learned a lot and feel more confident about getting it all done!
I appreciate your support and confidence in me 🙏
any feedback? Can it actually flush?
@@kurash2 I installed an upflow toilet in my basement and so far the experience has been great. We’ve had it for about 6 months. We opted for the higher product with the stronger macerator and so far everything has been ok.
The toilet itself doesn’t carry as much water in it, so cleaning it is a bit more work. As long as you keep up with that and install it correctly, I think it’s an absolutely fantastic option if you don’t want to bust holes into your foundation or have other difficult situations.
@beanmachine00 nice
Thank you Sir for taking the time out to install and explain step by step how to be a DIY plumber!!!
I appreciate you my friends 👍
I have one of these toilets in my sub basement (below grade) worked amazingly for years. just about to replace the macerating pump after 12 years.....and yes I have a shower and a sink attached to this, with no problems what so ever. awesome vid! keep up the great work!
Nice. I have mine in the garage. Love it. I appreciate your support. Thank you
Mr. Claude, thank you, awesome video, you taught this plumbing dummy how save a ton of money. God Bless
Great. I love to hear good feed back like this. I appreciate you.
Mr. Taylor, thank you for taking the extra time and bring us along for this project.
It's my pleasure, my friend 😉
@@theartofplumbing how much electric will it use
Standard 120
Man, you came through in this video...
I'm about to do 2 units meeting a 4 cast stack with no existing vents in the install area... This really gives me feel for it. I'm always learning new (to me) stuff.
Cool 😎 I appreciate your comment.
I feel your an excellent teacher. Earlier today we were looking to add a toilet in the basement. I need an upflow drain because our bacement drain is in the wall about 2' up from bacement floor.
I have remodeled many bathrooms and kitchens however never an upflush system. After waching your video I am comfortable to tackling this project.
Thank you Tim DeLauder
Glad I could help. I apprisiate your comment. 🙏
This is the best video I have ever watched on UA-cam. Thank you.
installing saniflo pro in our basement, toilet ,32 x 60 shower,lav, washer , will be checking in with you as we progress ,may have question, THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO ITS VERY HELPFUL !
Copy that. 👍
Great job love how you show many different options of plumbing supplies you can use and showed a full video love it will be watching in the future here are 👍👍👍 three thumbs up. Peace ✌☮
I am humbled. I really appreciate your kind comment.
If you had placed the pan gasket ( the according looking one) with the narrow side on the pump side, with the zip tie, it wouldn't of been so hard to get over the pipe. This is where lots of people rip the pan gasket stretching it too much. Great Video!!!! Thanks for making it!
I appreciate you. 🙏
Thank you for the video. I am looking to install a 1/2 bath (toilet and sink) in an unused closet in our basement. Our basement has outside access via an egress door. As we build out a small "Studio basement apartment" for future rental income, we are looking at the options available. This video allowed me to feel more confident in what parts I could do on my own. Thanks for the video and for the very detailed explanation of the installation process! This definitely helped me feel more confident in taking on this work on my own.
Awesome. This is the best setup for that. Cool 👍
Great Video. Do you have any concerns that the unground waste remains in the folds of the rubber like accordian connections starting to cause a restriction after time?
Thanks for the video …why can’t you use venting pipe that already there? What happens if you do?
Well, yes that is what they say, but what there talking about is to not tie it in to another vent that's already venting plumbing fixtures, but you can tie it into the main vent. Hope this helps
Excellent video ! Love the work thats done with slow detail.
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time and support stopping by my channel. I am always humbled that there are people out there like yourself with encouraging words. 🙏
Thanks for that link. Maybe I am reading the codes wrong, but unless the pump in your video is pneumatic, P3113.4.1 says that other than pneumatic, I can use the house vent. Only pneumatic pumps (P3113.4.2) need to have their own dedicated vent. I am asking because I am going to install a pump, and want to do it right. Thanks again sir.
One if the best reviews of this system!!!!!
I have 4 saniflo systems they are great
OMG....you are a life saver....I will show this bideo to my plumer and we will get it done
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very helpful thank!
@@markstanbery I appreciate you 🙏
How long did the installation take you from start to finish roughly?
Installing and videoing takes more time, but if I would have done this and not video tape. About 8 hours running the water line and drain and power
love that hacksall! Used mine doing the same type pvc cutting. I have troubles thinking of a better tool for pvc / abs
skill saw with plywood blade make a jig , stop the hacksaw pain !!!
@@jessehill6366 If you're doing it day in and day out it might be worth the effort.. but for an "every once in a while" type use... making a jig is a lot of extra work and will take longer than just doing the cuts.
@@AlanDike you must be square!
@@AlanDike you can never have too many tools if you had one you would fine uses you never thought oh and to be clear the pipe needs to be Square!
Great content! Question though, why shouldn't we connect this to the existing vent in the house?
wow you showed me better than anybody else on youtube, I have a question can I attach a shower , toilet , sink. , and a utility sink for the washer as well would it be to much ?
Yes you can not a problem. 👍 And I appreciate your comment.
thank you very that answered a lot of my concerns stay blessed
I am wondering why he painted the discharge 3/4 pvc red? I was jumping around didn't catch why. Probably just color coding?
I was just trying to match it up with the drain I connected to. 😉
What is the reason not to tie the pump vent into the house vent?
Great Question
It seems the upflush company is requiring you to upsize the venting as a precaution, even though your current venting setup may be adequate for the existing plumbing fixtures in your home.
Plumbing systems require proper venting to allow air to enter the system, preventing siphonage and backpressure. The size and configuration of the venting must be capable of handling the maximum drainage load based on the number and types of fixtures in the plumbing system.
My assumption is that while your current venting may technically be large enough for the current fixtures you have, the inspector wants you to upsize it now to account for any potential future expansion. By upsizing the venting now, you ensure the system will be equipped to handle additional fixtures if you add them later - for example if you finish the basement and add a bathroom down there. The inspector is trying to save you from having to modify the venting later if you do add more drainage load to the system.
In summary, the inspector is taking a cautious approach and having you oversize the venting to anticipate possible future needs. This avoids grandfathering in an undersized vent system that could require expensive modifications if you add more fixtures. Let me know if this explanation makes sense or if you need any clarification!
@@theartofplumbingyes makes sense. Just asking because I have a unit like this already tied into my house vent. Was like that when I bought the place. Watched your video in case I ever have to work on it. By the way your video is great. Watched 3 different ones and yours is the only one I left thinking this is a piece of cake if I ever need to fix something
What is the reason for venting the upflush alone? where I want to install the upflush in my basement my house vent is right above it. Can I just plumb the vent into my house vent? I seen my answer in the comments thanks for the video.
I love your instructions you make learning simple, thank you
Awesome. I appreciate your comment and support. 👍
Excellent video!! Thank you so much.
I appreciate your kind comment. 🙏
Loved it. THanks. You adapted from 3/4 to 1/5" before the gravity fall. I contacted Saniflo help they said to do it after the gravity fall. ANy comment? Very interested in your reply. THnkas again
I appreciate you, but I'm not sure of the 1/5"
I'm installing a second bathroom in a single-wide residential mobile home. The home is installed on blocks as a crawlspace foundation, and doesn't have enough height in the sewage drain line for a second connection. A second septic system would have cost over $7,000.00. The SFA macerator unit with a back flush toilet allows installation of a second bathroom where a bathroom was impossible feasibly and in an affordable budget.
Great idea. Perfect. That's what I'm talking about. You can't beat the versatility of the up flush toilet. Any were you want a bathroom is possible. 👍👍
awsome job,verry helpfull thanks
I appreciate your support 🙏
Mr. Taylor, great video. But I am confused about HOW could I run my ventilation tube out without connecting to the MAIN plumbing vent? That is a major problem, as I would have to drill though the 1st floor ceiling, 2nd floor ceiling, attic and then the roof. Is that correct? It not, could I just tap the saniflo vent into the main plumbing anyway? What could happen?
Thanks much! 😊
Depending on the plumbing codes in your area yours may be different. It may be possible that you can run your vent out and up the outside wall, but if your in an area where it freezes that won't work. What I have done in the past when installing a bath in the basement. I would run basement plumbing vents up and through the back of a closet on the floor above. It can be done just to be a little creative.
Outstanding video. Thank you for taking the time to make it
My pleasure. I appreciate your support.
Hi, I was wondering what kind of solution I can use in my upflush toilet when is not in use for a long time, up to a year, or it needs to flush frequently? I was thinking clorine or any regular toilet cleaner.
Really I'm not sure, first time that been brought. I don't think bleach or toilet cleaners would be good, that may it at the rubber seals, I would recommend checking with the manufacturer.
Just curious, but why did you say that the vent from the pump has to have it's own vent and isn't supposed to be vented to the house vent?
Good question, I see your concern, but first it's recommended by the company that makes them, second your main vent in your home may be maxed out already. up.codes/s/vent-pipe-sizing
Ive never done one, thanks for video, some good training, thank you
I appreciate you. 😉
Soooo, is there a cheaper version that works well?
Sorry Im really not sure.
I see that you're using 2 inch to drain that into, do you know if that is IPC code allowable
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@@theartofplumbing it's going to be tough, but I think I can get it in a diagonal piece of 4" cast drain in the drop ceiling... SMH... It's better safe than sorry... The 2" would be way easier, but you know how it goes. If you didn't know, I knew I was in trouble 😂
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Hi there, great vid from start to finish. My only question is it better to use brass nipples over the iron for corrosion prevention?
Your right it is. But it gets a little costly with brass nipples. Not sure if the value adds up to the longevity. I have worked on many homes with galvanized and its been installed over 50 years with no issues.
I want to know can this system be placed on a school bus tiny homes????
Oh yes. That would be a great place for that. I've been thinking about building a tiny house and doing that myself. You're on to something, keep those creative juices flowing. Thinking outside the box. Thank you for the comment.
I'm installing one of this toilets but the tank seems to wobble slightly. The bolts are already tight, is this normal? I've checked the gasket and it is on correctly
Can more than one toilet be connected to this unit? Meaning toilets of three bedrooms.
Sorry, but no. 🤗
I know this is now almost a 4yr. old video but my question is. I want to install this upflush toilet in my finished basement so does the venting have to be out through the back wall or must it be connected to the current venting system?
According to the company that make these toilets recommend that the vent from this toilet is discharged separately from the house vent. It's the same recommendation that anyone that has a sump pump in their basement is required to have a separate vent from the house vent.
Mine will be in a attic draining into the basement. It needs a anti siphon valve at the highest point? Im not familiar with that.
want to install one under my basement steps. Does the vent have to go 2 feet passed the window
Out the roof or two feet above highest window on the side of the house the vent will be
Does each fixture require a vent
Yes, but in some cases you can have two fixture share a vent.
I believe you have installed the flexible coupling gasket incorrectly. The smaller opening goes to the pump unit.
Narrow side, pump side, with a zip tie...
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Just purchased this i had an idea it would be something like this , but definitely glad u confirmed it for me thanks
Nice. I've had mind for about 2.5 years now it works great. 👍
@@theartofplumbing I have an unrelated question thought I'll ask so I turned off the the main water valve for my house because I remodel the two bathrooms upstairs gutted everything out when I was finished everything worked fine except the on of the bathrooms sinks water pressure is low and weak would you know what would be the cause of that? Thanks for time and help 🙏
It may just be the airiators faucet. They could be clogged from debris in water line. They should just screw off at the end of the faucet spout.
@@theartofplumbing thanks i have removed them before everything was pretty much new its weird because its only that sink on the the main floor and the bathroom above it works just fine
Gavinized pipe?
Thanks for this information ❤️
You bet, 🙏
like like like, good video , iam looking to get one for my basement too, that why Very helpful for me to watch to the end thanks
I appreciate your feed back and support. 🙏
hey can you tell us what it the exact name of the out pipe in 1 inch? i buy a used kit and i dont have any info about it its a 1 inch pvc standard pipe? thanks !!
Could you post more details on the concrete anchors and brass? anchor screws you used to fasten the toilet to the concrete? I need to fasten mine to concrete and was wondering where I could buy those parts.
I'll check some old footage and see what I could put together. The toilet bolts and anker's I got from The Home Depot
@@theartofplumbing thank you!
@@theartofplumbing waiting for this lol
Thanks for making and editing this video. After install and you using toliet for some time, any issues with the Zip tie?
Seems like a hose clamp would be better.
I haven't had any issues with zip tie, but I'm sure a hose clamp would be a good idea as well. 👍Good question.
@@theartofplumbing Thanks for reply.
Also, you upgraded the tank bowl kit. Is Gerber the manufacturer or style of bowl/toliet?
@@jeremyk5193 that came with the tank😄sorry. not sure who made tank guts
Hi there how do you get your tank flush with the toilet mine's wobbly
Very slowly. Back and forth from one side to the other. Don't rush it. If your not comfortable tightening down tank play it safe and call a professional👍
Hello! I am going to do the Saniflo system in my basement soon. Close towards the front of my house. The problem i think i’m overthinking is the discharge line and the vent line. My main stack is a distance from where the bathroom would be and my original bathroom is pretty much aligned with it. The utility sink is more close to where the bathroom is going. Could i use the utility drain or do I need to run pipes from one end (where bathroom will be) to the other end of my basement? Also, as far as the vent line/pipe if I do make a new line do I have to run it all the way up to the roof? Or can i just make a hole and have it only coming out a couple feet? Sorry for long question I’m a diy’er just trying to figure it out before jumping right out.
Hi plumberx, awesome video. Actually one of the best start to finish installs that I've seen. Quick question, if you were to add a shower to the left of the toilet, how would you tie in the supply lines for that? Thanks in advance.
I would run a new hot and cold water line from a 3/4 hot and cold source.
@@theartofplumbing could you use the same pex connection that you used for the sink?
Shower pan LEFT drain right water
First off u described everything to the T!!
Question for you.. Im in the process of installing a Saniflow Saniaccess 2 for a half bath. Can you angle the discharge host on top or does it have to be horizontal? I'm running it on an angle behind my wall and i have my main wasteline running behind it with a 2 inch vertical pipe running into the waste (existing kitchen sink line to the wasteline i need to run the flexible hose this comes with vertical before i can go horizontal and then down to the vertical tee y cut into that sink line.. Should i have a problem? or am I good
Why the vent going up outside the building. Can't you just tie it all into your existing plumbing and vent stack ?
It's recommended by the manufacturer and engineer s
@@theartofplumbing Hmm I have seen a few diff vids where it says do not do this. Do you know ? Does it have to be so high ? Mine is going in the basement. Can it just stub out at the sill level ? Kinda like if you had a dryer vent stubbed out your basement ? Thanks for the input. I have a pump up system in my Basement just for a washing machine. It has a one way valve on it. It's tied in to my plumbing and to the main and vent stack been working fine for well over 30 years. Not sure why this would be any diff ?
What about the 2” inlets on the side ?
You can use the 2" side outlet for a tub or shower
Could you use the outside vent on a sewage pit?
I looked into the sanaflo. We cant afford it. By putting a sewage pit it's more affordable. I thought the grinder pump only has a 1 to 2 year warranty?
Yes you can use a vent, but to 2"👍
Thank you
Awesome vid bro 👌 helps me alot quick question why is the vent above the window and not just stubbed out the wall?
Great question. Plumbing code. Theory, prevent sewer gas and smell from intering the home in case some has a door or window open. Vent should be extended 2' of above door or window. Hope this helps. I appreciate support. Also if door or window is less then 4'away from vent.
@@theartofplumbing makes perfect sense thanks for the reply back. My case the vent would stub under my back deck and have to run up the wall could I reduce the pipe size? So as it would be visible on the deck I could paint it and try to not make it such a eye sore? Thanks
@@greenreviews3391 if your up north no. In the south warm weather. You can use 1/4. Up north to small it will freeze over vent and you won't get any vent.
@@theartofplumbing I live in north Georgia it would be nice to use just a 1/2 pipe thanks for everything
Great video, but I'll never use sharkbites or any push fitting type for permanent installations. I've came across too many plumbing jobs with failed push fittings. Even though, the majority of the time the fail was because of improper installation. I just can put any trust in any push fitting...just my opinion!
👍 it's not for everyone. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate you.
Thank you very much for this video, have you seen a big difference in you electricity bill using this pump?
No can't say I have. Good question.
Have a question could you plumb in a shower and a sink in the same side of the box/pump? Saying that the shower and the sink is to the left of the toilet could you just use 1 drain line for them both to come into the box?
I would think you could.
How about in an attic? Only have a 4 inch cast iron vent stack
Sure, but you don't want to connect it to your vent. That may be the easiest spot to put it, but only in a warmer climate area. Like here in the south. But if you do live in a cold climate area and you're going to make a room in the attic and insulate it😏 a good idea. Thanks.
Hellooooo - love this! Does anyone know a good plumber or contractor near Toledo Ohio that could handle this job? And how much might I expect to pay - general range - for installation in a basement with a shower and sink? Thanks if anyone has any info!
can the waste piping be used with Pex?
Good Idea, I'm sure you could. Great question
Why the water going so slowly in the toilet
Well this type of toilet, all the work is done in the grinding and pumping system. No need for heavy water flow. Good question
what do you to go down with your pipe
Im questionable about a 4' range of flushable ...... And ejecting from a 1' to the soil drain
I understand, but the tank that the waste flush to has a punk grinder that grinds up all the waist that makes it possible to flush the waste into a 1-in drain.
Great video! Thanks so much. One question: why are you saying that the saniflo vent pipe must be separate from the other house plumbing vent system? I read over the saniflo install documents, and did not see that stipulation.
Thank you for your support. Sorry but I may have miss spoke. You can run the vent to the main vent in the home, but on this job it would have been to much time and to much trouble to tie back into the main vent. 👍
@@theartofplumbing can you name the brand and model of the Sink you installed in the saniflo video? That looks just right for me application. Thanks again.
It's a nice sink for the price. Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing:
MUSTEE Utilatub Combo 24 in. x 18 in. Polypropylene Floor Mounted Laundry Tub in White
www.homedepot.com/p/MUSTEE-Utilatub-Combo-24-in-x-18-in-Polypropylene-Floor-Mounted-Laundry-Tub-in-White-21CP/203579727
Great job
Thank you
Great review
Thank you for the feed back. I appreciate you
Thanks for the video. Cost range for just the toilet and grinder?
Check out this list Saniflow Products from How To Plumbing www.amazon.com/shop/howtoplumbing?listId=3BSYAA7NHNNVL&ref=exp_inf_sh_list_own_howtoplumbing this may help. Pricing right here.
Great Video! I have a saniflo that kept gurgling after a flush like it did not have enough power to push up the sewage from the tank. I have talked to the saniflo tech people and they said it might be the bladder and the capacitor. So needless to say I had to buy the items. Two things to ask: with the gurgling do you think there might be something stuck in the up flush pipe that would cause such noise or do you think it is the pipe with the flap on the unit that could be causing the issue? Also, the installer that put the toilet in used the bolts to go directly inter the concrete. When I attempted to take the bolts out they broke off. Still have some of it in the concrete as I write this. How would you go about drilling new holes and extracting the bolds and putting a bolt in there and using a nut to secure the bowel like you did? Thanks, D
Sorry. I haven't had that problem yet, that would be something I'd really have to think about
@How To Plumbing, you said if you was installing a utility sink, normally you would use a sanitary tee and tap into a vent. Could you just tap into the stack itself, then it would still be vented? What tool do you need to cut the stainless steel supply lines? Also, how much does a job like this cost?
Yes normally I would install a vent after the trap, but this United is vented at the pumping system. No need to tap into the stack here just catch a run. I cut the supply line with copper tubing cutters.
Thx! I understand that part, just curious to know would studer vents be efficient for laundry tubs? I figured copper cutters would do the job! I'm a apprentice so I not fairly new, just been out of the game for awhile.
How much does a job like that cost, the sanifold toilet and sink instead of utility sink?
Some areas
You didn't say how does a job like this cost
Nice job big help.
Thank you. Glad I could help. 👍
Forgot to ask, what state are you in, and how hard is it to get a plumber's license? I'm not good on venting, so any pointers on how to become efficient in it?
Venting can be difficult to understand, but with some practice and proper guidens. I would start by studying the venting system with ( how to plumbing charts ) how to size vents were s vent should go. Also remember different state and city have different plumbing codes for venting and plumbing in general. I've been lic in three different States. Stick to the basics when in dought ask your local inspectors. Hope this helps
Can I hook up a shower to it?
Yes you can hook up a shower to the system. Good question. 👍
@how to plumbing. Do they make a 1inch bushing, because I wanted to run 1inch pvc piping?
Yes they do
I wanna put one in a basement
Trust me you will love it. I've had the one in this video for at least four years or longer. No issues. 👍Thank you for watching I appreciate you🙏
A friend has a neighbor who installed one in the yard shed for the cats 🐈 use. Crazy.
Well. That's interesting 🤠
can you adapt a larger pipe for ejection, say 1'?
Sorry. I'm not sure about that.
The discharge outlet from the tank provided in the package is a 90 degree bend; the manufacturer recommends no greater than 45 bend be used on the outlet. It stresses the pump motor.
It came with the system. I've had no issues.
Well, a straight doesn’t look like it would fit under the toilet tank in a direct toilet mount configuration.
Yeah. I thought the same thing🤔
You just save me 500.00 on the install. I can do this thanks again
Nice.
Thank you!
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Vorrei sentire il video in italiano
Hmm, vediamo cosa posso fare. Grazie per il feedback
The price is the reason more of these are not installed.
I See what you're saying, yes it's a little more costly then most standard toilets, but as a new install you come out cheaper, because you don't have to dig up cement and install plumbing on the floor. You come out way cheaper with this toilet.
It looks weak on the flushing 😂 no flushing power why?
Sorry but I beg to differ, I have no issues with this toilet flushing.
Put a toilet in that BUS maybe?.. any RV toilet TIPS installation videos??
Lol, the bus? Anyway RV. I'm not sure. That a horse of a different color, but anything is possible 😉
Fair play Claude
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basement laundry room for a basement bath
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There was still water in the toilet when you flushed. I can't imagine it flushing poop.
It does
Lose the music
Unless your pooping iron regular toilet is fine thank u
Old school But then SHARKBITE 🤣🤣 IMPORTANT QUESTION must discharge use 45s just 🤔🤔 why they give 90s I've done 100s of these 1 home owner is complainer sewer gases any pointers
A tree house.