Milos Sarcev & Dennis James CALL OUT Patrick Tuor… PATRICK RESPONDS!!!
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- A Desktop Bodybuilding EXCLUSIVE - Patrick Tuor's RESPONDS to Milos Sarcev & Dennis James fro their comments on the latest ep of The Menace Podcast on the Muscle & Fitness channel. Milos claims he previously coached Patrick Tuor which Patrick denies.
❓ Did Milos Sarcev COACH Patrick Tuor? Who's Lying?
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❓ Did Milos Sarcev COACH Patrick Tuor? Who's Lying?
Patrick is
as great a coach patrick is i dont think he smiled once througout dj,s podcast and he looked very uncomfortable. like dj said the year before he didn,t place and the year milos supposodly helped him he won the show im with milos on this one as i feel patrick for some reason dosen,t want to give milos credit. dors patriick have any gold medals locked away lol.
Why do you trust Patrick Tuor over Milos? I tend to think Milos is the one who is telling the truth. I also trust Dennis more than either of them.
Patrick’s body language is that of someone who’s being dishonest
From Patrick's response Milos did coach him he just don't want to admit that if why only him can answer that how sad😢
Patrick was being coached by Samson’s wife
Plot twist 😂
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same as Milosz
😂😂😂
Milos never forgets
His memory is on another level. #$harp!
He keeps records. Whether written or email but even his protocols he gives someone he keeps
The elephant of the bodybuilding world😂
We need this in a shirt lmao
new t shirt!!!
Patricks ego just doesn't want to give any credit to Milos. Does patrict think people will think he's smarter for not being coached by milos. This is not rocket science
His eyes tell it all he’s lieing. Milos isn’t a liar
You can totally tell a lot by another mans eyes
I believe Milos his recall is spot on he discusses past shows that happened 20 years ago like they happened last week.
I believe Milos over Patrick. But even if he just helped him with a few things, Patrick should’ve stated that in the podcast and not just denied it altogether. Did not look good on his part.
Why is this even a debate or discussion? Patrick's ego is so huge he would never admit it. His body language says it all and Milos doesn't lie
Why would anyone get so defensive about being coached by Milos Sarcev if I was coached by him I would have it on every billboard in town.
U can read the body language of Patrick it’s not hard
My thoughts exactly
Good to see a body language expert lol
DJ does keep it real and calls out anyone on bs even if they have been on their podcast unlike most bodybuilding channels
💯 DJ is real AF
So many screwballs in this industry 😂😂😂
Seems like every sport especially with podcasts, we can hear it all
Milos doesn’t forget bodybuilding
Didn't Iain say on Fouads podcast say that Patrick and him finally dialed it in for a show almost perfectly and the very next show Patrick totally flipped the switch and wanted Iain to do something totally different? Something that Iain did in the past and totally didn't work. Iain was basically pissed off about it( who wouldn't be)But he followed it and didn't come in shape because of it. My guess that's why Iain dropped Patrick. Is Patricks memory just that bad? Dennis get Iain on the show and ask him about this. Iain and Patrick are buddies but business is business and Iain definitely said after Iain and Patrick finally figured his physique out, Patrick did a 180 the very next show taking Iain backwards. There's no way Iain made that up.
Is it so hard just to accept Milos helped him?
Patrick is right it was in fact Samson's wife that coached and prepped Patrick for that show.
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Fucking brilliant!
You a real G sir
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Silvio won a Gold metal at 11 with the math of his age and dates he gave.
Oh man I was dying listening to that 🤣
It's crazy a guy as nice and non confrontational as Milos has been the subject of so much controversy recently
Yeah what's the deal, everyones shitting on him for observably no reason whatsoever
Milos coached him and Patrick is LIAR! Milos was one of the first coaches out there and all the coaches have leaned from Milos! Milos was one of the top Pro Bodybuilders in the world and did more magazine covers than anybody!!!!!
One thing I KNOW: Milos is the most honest and genuine guy in the industry. He's a class act to the end. Never confrontational and always willing to take the high road. I love Patrick, but I'm with Milos.
Also, I've been saying it for years: @8:15 Mauro and Milos are like twins!!!
Milos is one of the most detailed human beings I’ve ever listened to. On all of these podcasts he can recall dates, times, people, protocols etc. I can’t imagine he’s being dishonest at all
If I have to take someone's word just by watching both guys over the years, I'm picking Milos hands down.
Patrick is extremely insecure if he cannot admit to this simple thing.
Milos literally has no reason to lie…he doesn’t benefit anything from telling people he coached Patrick Tuor
It was baffling at the time and I'm so glad Denis brought it up, I don't know why Patrick didn't at least acknowledge that there was a solid week or so that Milos helped him, even just clarifying that it may not be strictly "coaching" but there was a connection and Milos definitely helped him with a protocol in detail
Milos has a photographic memory when it comes to bodybuilding 😂 worst person you can lie too
Seems like Patrick doesn’t want to give credit that he used/learned anything from Milo’s . Xavier, you contacted Patrick about this . Why not contact Milo’s ?!?!
Watch Oldschool podcast tomorrow
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage
I was totally confident in what u were saying in your podcast , I mean you don’t forget shit . You have a memory like an elephant !
Patrick made no sense in why he wouldn’t let de la rosa do the Detroit pro either. He could be qualified right now and then really have time for an off season.
I don’t think he could beat Martin.
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Someone can coach you without photos. U can simply explain what’s going on and they can tell you what to do.
It seems the debate is more about what they consider "coaching" not whether or not Milos provided advice/guidance.
If provided Rx plan (everything to the least day), depletion, carb loading specifics, water, sodium, diuretics, cytadren protocol, aldactone protocol, insulin loading, amount of carbs....and many other things he openly told us on our Podcast - means coaching?
Looking horrible on Wednesday (that he supposedly doesn't remember?) and phenomenal by the show....which he won...after placing nowhere coaching himself ...
Thanking me for several years after - for making him a better bodybuilder and now qualified coach that can make a living doing it...
That was late '90s...
Every Christmas - he did remember me and thank me ....for what?
As it stands now - he actually admits getting all the info but choosing not to use...
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More he says - more trouble he gets into...
I think many of these coaches/ "gurus" try to act like they invented the playback, and there 1 of 1, and there methods are the standard, and it comes down to ego, and tbh kind of lying/ manipulation... that's why Patrick couldn't admit on video that Milo's coached him... bc that would imply that Patrick needed help and doesn't have all the answers...
Everyone needs a coach regardless, you can’t see your self as others do especially pros.
Well if someone gives you advice, let’s not call it coaching, and you just ignore it. Why bother thanking that person, over and over again, if you didn’t even do what that person said?
Excellent point. stands to reason..
guilt
WTF holy shit just say he helped me and thank you what kind of a kid is Patrick for discussing coaching or not coaching.
What kind?
Lying kind.
Patrick getting more exposure and his name is out there to potentially snatch new top Olympia clients, for some odd reason doesn’t want that perception out there? Dont know just another one of those weird lies in the body building world. We can only trust Samson’s wife on this matter.
I believe Milos, extremely honest guy and great memory. I think Patrick doesn’t wanna give Milos credit since he is a coach himself now
Milos is most honest person
Yea its definitely alittle weird...even if it was not exactly what Milo's said, it was kinda obvious Patrick was trying to beat around the bush and deny it, which is alittle weird.. i mean how could someone think that there coaching u, even if it was years ago, and they weren't or not involved at all?
Milos oozes credibility. He has an iron clad mind.
Bodybuilding industry’s turning into a complete kindergarten
i was thinking the same!
Milos is a good guy 💯
He looks so uncomfortable and irritated when Milos tells him that he coached him
Patrick Tuor is a liar and made himself look v stupid . He appears idiotic when lying . It's school boy stuff and he's a grown ass man . He has an ulterior motive .Milos is bodybuilding gold
Patrick is arrogant and he is prepared to deny milos to his face rather than admit he reached out for help when he was younger.
Working with Milos is great for your coaching resume. I found it very disrespectful what Patrick did
The fitness industry is full of BS coaches like Patrick !!!!, I feel bad for Milos. Milos is such a nice guy , honest and straightforward!!!
Next show Samson's wife is gonna compete instead Samson.
Listen Jay Cutler was just talking about how sharp Milos is.
In the last two or three weeks
I love your channel to death, I like how well you present the news, etc etc But I will be honest to you, the video I saw I thought I would see actually Patricks response and I know, youtubers have to writte a convencing video titles in order to attract people and have more views likes so on, so dont take me wrong but it makes your name and channel look bad, Im upset for the simple fact of the video title not corresponding the content, dont do this Xavier, I follow you and like your channel since day one, dont let this kind of things affect your amazing channel. big hug
So what did Patrick say afterwards?
Thanks buddy
I think Patrick was caught off guard , answered incorrectly a lil ego slipped in ..... then couldnt admit it .. stuck in the lie
As you said - stuck in a lie and the more he tries to get out - the deeper he gets in...
Can someone tell me why Milos will say that he coached Patrick. .Milos Coached hundreds of people so he doesn't need to add one more or more to get his reputation higher. Milos has proved his talent so Patrick look like he doesn't want to say Milo's did look after him. Ego? Milos doesn't need to lie about this , no interests at all..
I forgot many that I coached...that's for sure...but I could never remember someone that I did not...
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage There is only one truth and the one who say it right knows so well ..Milos I follow you since 1988 year of my first competition and all I know is I will choose you as my coach anytime....keep smiling..
1000% Milo’s is telling the truth u can see how happy and laid back he isn’t about recalling . Patrick looks so so uneasy 😊
As with any client/coach situation…Coach provides information, tools, knowledge to the client to make them better however if that client chooses not to do what is told or provided it is still coaching. Ex: client A is on 1800 calorie deficit to lose weight but they are eating 2000 calories and don’t lose weight…the coach is still coaching providing info even though the client is not following. It falls on end client to tell the coach I am not doing what you said and then coach can continue or cut ties
People don’t understand that it’s a business. If Patrick doesn’t want to share who coached him it’s his right to do so. Milos is a great passionate coach and bodybuilder but most of people are not as nice as he is
I don’t think DJ was comparing the 2…I think his point was that he has no issue with questioning a guest on the authenticity of their statements..
If i was Patrick i would thank Milos again in front of everyone. That’s very low from Patrick.
And Milos gets more popular, it’s pretty obvious💫
Sometimes you forget that you're watching beauty contestants. Of course lies, innuendo and jealousy reigns.
damnn watched the whole video bro but there's no response from Patrick. only response is from the initial video of him denying it, hope he speaks up and admits it lol. lil click bait but we still love u X lol
I don't think Patrick is being genuine here. Here is why I say this
1)Milos is an encyclopedia of bodybuilding. He is more accurate about placings at every show than the competitors themself, I dont question his memory
2) Motive, Milos has helped Olympic Atheletes and bodybuilding legends, he has no need to claim anything from Patrick who I have never heard of
3) Patricks response was to well prepped, like he knew he was going to deny this prior and if a legend such as Milos helped you...for free, even in a small way, why deny him any props.
bro when patrick when back on the pod it was crazy!
Milos never lie!
I know Milos can't help but invest himself fully into coaching on a personal level, but it seems a few of these so-called professionals take advantage of his kindness and knowledge. I hope he does a better job of separating the business from the personal relationship with his athletes moving forward. That way, there will be no misunderstandings or gaslighting.
Sounds like a disagreement in the word “coach”. Helping someone with information could be considered coaching to some. To others it’s just being nice and helping.
There is zero disagreements or misunderstandings...and everyone should realize it.
I think Milo’s told him what to do but he was doing his own thing. I’m in a situation where I’m locked into a contract with a coach. I don’t feel like he’s paying attention and I’m doing what I know works for my body. If asked who is coaching me, this person technically is my coach but I’m really my coach…does that make sense?
Yes...it must be.
Patrick placed nowhere previously.
Mauro Sassi (now a famous coach in Italy) won the contest and Patrick asked him if he could introduce him to his coach (me).
Next contest he won (previously he was placing nowhere)...looking dramatically improved.
Connect the dots.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialUA-camPage why is he lying about it
@Mandajo7 who knows, some people are wierd and deny u helped them. I helped my best friend meet his wife and he now denies I did anything. Why? who tf knows.. Some people are like that.
Why do you make a click bait about Patrick response 😡
From what they say it seems Milo really did help Patrick.
Patrick seems like a guilty liar. What's a computer? What's an e- mail ? What's a phone? I have no reason to ask anyone for help, no, not me.
Patricks body language looks like he’s lying. He lied about coaching Ramy too.
I guess could be a misunderstanding of what the definition coaching means could be different to Milos than Patrick maybe.. Pete 👍
Where's the damn response?
At the end of the day, who cares? lol
I feel you but it’s some weird stuff & I don’t think it’ll stop here 😂 I don’t understand how they could even disagree unless one of the guys are lying or it’s a misunderstanding lol
Bodybuilding is boring needs more drama like this
@@siciliancannoliandanespres6021 I don’t disagree with you. It’s fun in every other sport but in bodybuilding there generally are too many ego’s or people that take themselves too seriously at times 😂
People who value integrity care.
@@DesktopBodybuilding waaaay to seriouly, almost to a comical point
Why would Milos lie. Yes if Milos sent 34 pages it's coaching. Patrick isn't a likeable guy. Boring as fuk
Patrick lying due to trying to protect his own coaching reputation obviously smh
Milos is not a liar
This was a boondoggle of a show. I actually like Patrick's mindset of coaching his athletes. I watched the show, and the climate changed when Ramy's name was mentioned. Oh well thanks for sharing the video!
I see coaching a person as more than just a one time or few time exchange of some info... like this seems.
If a person is/was coached by someone I would imagine it was a memorable experience and a person would not"FORGET" completely.
If coaching was not a thing in that time and people were not charging why then make an issue of it now? Looks like Milos is trying to take credit for Patrick and his now coaching business.
This is like a person who gets to know another at a gym and routinely SPOTS the individual when they bench or squats and then makes the statement later that he TRAINED the person. He didn't train the person... he merely spotted the individual when he benched/squatted.
I don't really care for Dennis'podcast, because it's catty/gossipy/bitchy/attitude filled and opinionated and that turns me off. I don't like this exchange being worked as it is... Like Milos and Patrick are liars and now its a FEUD between them.
BBing is destroying itself
Talking about ego...
Patrick sat there and lied in Milo's face 🤨
Without bliking
Dennis James second option. Patrick doesn’t want people to know that he’s using Milos protocols even today
I was coached by Patrick in 2008, and this was catastrophique!!! No plan, no following, nothing. The only important thing, money!!
Simple mistake in the definition of coaching. Milo’s may have given information but that’s not coaching.
So everyone is getting advice and protocols from Milos and not using them.
C’mon man, I don’t believe that!
Patrick comes across as a rude and arrogant sod. You’d have to have rocks in your head engaging him as your coach.
Why’s everyone forgetting that milos coached them Samson now tour feel bad for milos
Patrick is a snake in the grass.His ambition is to con his way up to the Hany and Aceto level We get guys like this in every workplace,they'll sabotage other people to get what they want
Milos wouldn't lie
Geez Milo's looks damn good for 60
Maybe to Patrick it wasn’t coaching in his eyes but more like a collaboration of two minds? His body language does tell of some denial there though, maybe he was hoping this wouldn’t be brought up and so now that it’s in his face he has already accepted his denial that he couldn’t accept the truth or half the truth. Milos might be many things lol - but a liar I don’t think so.
I believe Milos
If you watch the entire interview, Patrick seemed a bit disinterested in the interview and didn’t laugh at any of the jokes. Really he seems very standoffish so maybe there’s some type of animosity toward the guys or maybe just Milos or Dennis?just go back and watch the entire video
Patrick clearly say No now his saying two phone call etc he just dig himself a hole. Anyway nothing wrong if Milos coach him we all gotta learn from someone or something
Maybe it's Samson's wife that coached Patrick for that show😂
personally, who cares? its not like it matters. just because someone shares a bunch of things with me doesn’t mean they trained me. the worst thing is that Milos is bringing it up like as if he is bragging that he taught him all he knew?? fickle insecure bs, he boy’d him off, which is totally disrespectful. And Dennis should be ashamed because he is obviously biased towards patrick because he is now working with Big Ramy. it’s embarrassing to see 2 old school guys trying to boy off another coach… insecure jealousy… besides this, who cares?
Blame samson.
Whos the one with alzheimer's?
lets look at past history , Milos a top 10 kinda career competing , Patrick ,a nobody really , Milos has trained who ? nearly everyone has had some contact with Milos ,even affiliated with BALCO. Patrick ,well not nearly as much success . So lets just take the high road here , musta been a misunderstanding ....LOL, I been in the sport since the 70s ,not at their level ,but let me say I remember everything people told me and always give credit where credit is due , Patrick made a mistake .
Milos has less european competitors and less overall competitors now when few of them dropped him so i dont know if is that a call for athletes to choose him instead of Patrick.
Or Milos is not happy that still didnt help anyone to win Mr.Olympia category like Patrick did with Keone Pearson.
How stupid can you be? 🤡
There’s nothing to gain by lying in this case so it’s a simple mistake in what is coaching and what is helping. Jeez.
Helping novice competitor, desperate for knowledge...throughout a whole year until his show - with what?
What could I help him with ? (one of the very few professional coaches at the time, that he came to for advice)
Jeez
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weird.