The Bodybuilding Round Table-Chris Cormier, Milos Sarcev, Toney Freeman, Kevin Levrone, Dennis James

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • 2:00 - Toney - How he got parasites
    11:15 - Milos - Shares his tuna story
    15:30 - Toney - About taking bathroom pictures and training to look full
    17:00 - Chris - To Toney - Take us through the process how you revamped your career
    25:20 - Dennis - Talks about Puerto Rico Pro open
    30:05 - Dennis - Who was the best bodybuilder who didn’t turn pro?
    32:10 - Toney - Edgar Fletcher story
    34:25 - Chris - Introduces surprise guest - Kevin Levrone
    38:13 - Milos - Why aren’t bodybuilders competing more these days?
    44:28 - Dennis - About signing with Joe Weider
    46:38 - Dennis - Talks about first time seeing Kevin Levrone
    53:20 - Kevin - Talks about sleeping out in the horse stable?
    54:20 - Milos - To Kevin - Did you learn anything from Joe Weider?
    56:20 - Toney - About Mr. Olympia as a brand
    58:33 - Dennis - To Kevin - How did you bring all that money back from overseas tours?
    1:00:30 - Dennis - About losing his money in the backseat of a cab
    1:05:50 - Milos - To Dennis - Did you learn something from Joe Weider?
    1:07:40 - Milos - About what he learned from Joe Weider
    1:09:44 - Milos - What did you guys think about Hassan?
    1:16:13 - Dennis - Who represents Classic Physique well today?
    1:20:10 - Milos - Milos opinion on why they decided to bring in the Classic Physique category into competitions?
    1:28:46 - Dennis - Fan Question - How do you recognize when you hit a plateau?
    1:33:06 - Dennis - Fan Question - Knowing what you know today, what would you change if you could go back?
    1:52:40 - Dennis - Insulin topic
    1:56:25 - Toney - About Ronnie Coleman and Joe Weider

КОМЕНТАРІ • 134

  • @EGC444
    @EGC444 2 роки тому +49

    I love when Dennis gets the old school Legends On 🔥

  • @talleytaylor1747
    @talleytaylor1747 2 роки тому +14

    As a 90's bodybuilding fanatic, I enjoyed every minute of this podcast!!

  • @Think_Carefully_Please
    @Think_Carefully_Please 2 роки тому +21

    Thank you Dennis for these roundtables. They legitimately make my week.

  • @30pipeliner
    @30pipeliner 2 роки тому +13

    I could watch 24hrs of this podcast with my all time favorite legends telling old uncensored bodybuilding stories. Great podcast DJ!!!

  • @Ricardo-zp6sg
    @Ricardo-zp6sg 2 роки тому +8

    Great to see Toni Freeman 👍🏽💪🏾💪🏾

    • @brainhakker7133
      @brainhakker7133 Рік тому

      Dam ... you weren't even Close on the spelling. >_

  • @robertgabrielle5956
    @robertgabrielle5956 2 роки тому +7

    This is going to be LEGENDARY!!! Thank you for this one Dennis, and God Bless these legends!!! ❤️💪🙏

  • @toneislands5438
    @toneislands5438 Рік тому +2

    Dennis seems like a legit nice guy, bet he is a great friend and a funny guy to be around!!! I love these chats with the legends!!!!

  • @PaigeSabedra
    @PaigeSabedra 2 роки тому +6

    These podcasts are are great. Old stories and great advice shared.

  • @Shockya2352_
    @Shockya2352_ 2 роки тому +7

    Dennis thank u for getting these old school bodybuilding legends on…..keep it up

  • @art2664
    @art2664 2 роки тому +4

    Great Show today! I,m 1995 Mr.Canada and every topic you guys talked about really hit home. Awesome stuff! I love the fact everyone was so candid and didn’t sugar coat topics! Thanks to all of You!

  • @mannysfitnessfortress989
    @mannysfitnessfortress989 5 місяців тому +1

    It's awesome seeing Chris, Tony, Denise, Milos, all collabing!

  • @proteinspesialisten9539
    @proteinspesialisten9539 2 роки тому +8

    Fly on the wall listening to these legends.
    This is what bodybuilding is. Old school , hard working, and colourful personalities.
    They all had their own look and they all had their own strengths . Kevin is on the money with the leveraging platform. The pros these days seem to work less. Maybe I’m showing my age. But the Athletes I look up to are the hardest working . Just as Tony Doherty is one of the hardest working promoters. Old school hardworking attitude will always win

  • @benjyperez5606
    @benjyperez5606 2 роки тому +3

    Met the X man Toney at last years Mr O, the guy is ifbb royalty but couldn’t be more humble and welcoming. Glad he is healthy now in retirement.

  • @taylorgonzales5407
    @taylorgonzales5407 2 роки тому +6

    Kevin kinda.dropped a bomb bout Olympia being fixed for Dorian eh

  • @jamesbrace3212
    @jamesbrace3212 2 роки тому +3

    TONY THE ORIGINAL XMAN!
    I REMEMBER WHEN HE CAME TO PHOENIX AND HUNG OUT AT DUE HARD GYM!

  • @chrisneely3069
    @chrisneely3069 2 роки тому +16

    Toney should’ve won an O bro
    Insane physique
    True gentleman as well

  • @vinceyoung5912
    @vinceyoung5912 2 роки тому +6

    Make sure your tuna was frozen first. The freezing kills the worms.

    • @brucejonesillustrations8721
      @brucejonesillustrations8721 Місяць тому

      unfortunately it actually doesn’t
      there are studies that have found out that the freezing doesn’t stop them

  • @barrykitchen8200
    @barrykitchen8200 2 роки тому +12

    Tony Freeman is one of the guys I've always looked up to. Just while his personality obviously but most of all his physique. Cuz it took until I was 225 lb to stop looking like a swimmer. Cuz I used to be almost six one. but jumping out of an airplane 120 times , getting blown up , shrapnel . All that good stuff. I'm going back surgeries and all this other stuff. Now I'm 5 ft 10 10 1/2 if I'm lucky. But I stuck at it and I didn't use a ton of stuff and never really have. But it's like years because I was still actively in second range of italian. So I started to do my 10 Mile runs and whatnot even at 245 250 pounds. But there's always that fine line of how my physique could look. I had to be practical. Now an idea when I was getting out I was going to get a little more aggressive with it and then compete but as I stated. Shrapnel was my weakness apparently. And then I thought okay maybe I'll just do classics and then I started getting injuries. But anyway all the rambles. Yeah Tony if you read this this thanks and then also thank you because I even followed you when you're out of the game. Knew what happened. And then I started getting more health conscious about food choices. 205 lb anywhere from 12 to 15% body fat year round using only 175 mg upwards of 200 every 10 days of testosterone just found my sweet spot.Tuesday I still have a desire to do like classic I would never be able to do open because of my rotator cuff her knee is ACL MCL shins right ankle you name it. But even then I knew I probably wouldn't place well. maybe I just want to do it for my experience or for experience just because. Still in the fence like I said because it would be have to be classic cuz I wouldn't be able to pack on the size nor do I want to push the dosages like I said I'm 41. But even his classic I don't know I guess my only saving grace would be like legs aren't that important they're important but genetically that's one of my gifts anyway this is one of the things that really didn't shrink too much through the years of not training. I still have 19 and 1/2 in calves and even when I was skinny down to 180 my forearms were still 17 look like f****** poppie.but my chest has a huge gap like that I believe his name is Austin Carr. But I don't know now I'm just rambling cuz I'm doing speech to text as I'm driving home from work well from the gym

  • @mrcliche1025
    @mrcliche1025 2 роки тому +9

    Best show you have put on DJ! Love the stories. Miss the 90’s bodybuilding times. Crazy, fun; insane and fantastic times were had during this era of the sport. Never to be replicated. Thanks for sharing

  • @Moeinshape
    @Moeinshape 2 роки тому +3

    One of the best podcast out by far 💪🏾💯.

  • @MaxPower-zl1lc
    @MaxPower-zl1lc 2 роки тому +2

    Great show! The competitive knowledge & stories of these men is priceless. Much respect to you all. Body buildings greatest era. Lucky to have witnessed it. Fan for life!

  • @beetman
    @beetman 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Tony for beating Polumbo! LMFAO

  • @elliotsoto8901
    @elliotsoto8901 4 місяці тому

    Guys , we love to see this camaraderie among the old school bodybuilders. Bring different perspectives and cultures together. Keep this content coming.😂

  • @JB-qt3wo
    @JB-qt3wo 6 місяців тому

    I loved Toney’s physique and was a huge fan of his workout programs in the magazines when I was growing up. I saw him at a Europa show one time and he was huge. Massive.

  • @donaldjohnson7777
    @donaldjohnson7777 2 роки тому +4

    Another great 👍 session

  • @dannyjay2425
    @dannyjay2425 2 роки тому +1

    Met tony walking around in bodyppwer in the uk. What a nice guy and had a photo aswell.

  • @imeiprezime345
    @imeiprezime345 2 роки тому +2

    That's why love Sundays!!

  • @riversavage5608
    @riversavage5608 2 роки тому +4

    Toney was a awesome bodybuilder! Great guy too. Not an arrogant guy at all.

    • @SuppTalk
      @SuppTalk 2 роки тому +1

      Super down to earth and humble

    • @lajosnagy6356
      @lajosnagy6356 2 роки тому

      He changed for the better , enjoying him talking all about health
      Great episode

  • @christianmathison1182
    @christianmathison1182 2 роки тому +3

    These guys can all make much more money on social media than competing. They all make 10x what you guys got paid to compete just staying at home shooting social media. You don’t need a mr. olympia title to get rich and famous on social media. In fact some of the biggest social media people have never competed

  • @francishamill8378
    @francishamill8378 2 роки тому +2

    Totally agree they holding clasic back ,they look so flat at times ,clasic comes from your structure suiting it for a start
    Shawn rohden had the best of both

  • @allycat509
    @allycat509 2 роки тому +2

    Tony is a OG, I learned how to train arms from him.

  • @corneliusparkin2401
    @corneliusparkin2401 2 роки тому +2

    Just FYI I would pay money each week to watch these episodes. Make as many as possible! As a 36 year old that has been part of the BBing world since he was 12 years old these are gold! I started following BBing in 1998. This is the absolute best podcast because it reminds me of being a young small teen reading about all of you and the contests. I always knew I didn’t have what it takes to be at your guys level so I didn’t focus all my effort into competing rather into learning. I literally never have had a “real job”. I owned a gym for nearly a decade and I have been coaching people for the past 15 years. My initial knowledge came from all you guys articles, every book out there, and seminars.

    • @bigQraz
      @bigQraz 2 роки тому +1

      You sound like you’re a passionate guy about anything he likes! Keep it up, I hope your gym will bring you joy and happiness for many more decades! Keep lifting, stay healthy

    • @Retics
      @Retics Рік тому +1

      Imagine for me.. i started in the 80s.

    • @corneliusparkin2401
      @corneliusparkin2401 Рік тому +1

      @@Retics if you’ve been into for this whole time then heck yeah that’s a long time!

    • @Retics
      @Retics Рік тому +1

      @@corneliusparkin2401 , goes so quick! So quick

  • @thurgrum
    @thurgrum 2 роки тому +1

    Love listening to this, all these guys were my hero's.

  • @redram3457
    @redram3457 2 роки тому +1

    Daaaaaamn!!!! This is madness. Badass lineup!

  • @kusjr4388
    @kusjr4388 2 роки тому +3

    Dennis is one my favorites....milos aswell

  • @melindo3188
    @melindo3188 2 роки тому +1

    Dennis. Great show. It would be great if you can get Toney back to discuss his healing in more detail.

  • @RonBaezclassic
    @RonBaezclassic 2 роки тому +2

    It Was awesome to hear about freeman!

  • @renatodealmeida83
    @renatodealmeida83 2 роки тому +1

    Best Show i see now in bodybuilding world

  • @BatmanBoss
    @BatmanBoss 7 місяців тому +1

    Great show

  • @fitmaxas381
    @fitmaxas381 2 роки тому +7

    Kevin Levrone used to do 8 guestposings per year and now in 2022 mr.olympia doesnt even do guestposing once a year....

    • @user-cm9ef4fw7m
      @user-cm9ef4fw7m 2 роки тому

      liar

    • @massagegun5659
      @massagegun5659 2 роки тому +2

      How many guest posing Phil Heath used to do? 🤭🤭 infact, Ramy did 3 guestposing after the O last year.

  • @natetompkins2980
    @natetompkins2980 2 роки тому +2

    Another banger!!🔥👍🏿

  • @YoMomma1337
    @YoMomma1337 5 місяців тому

    I still remember seeing Toney on the NO Shotgun ads, badass.

  • @bolshoikush9093
    @bolshoikush9093 2 роки тому +1

    OG s. Bring Toney more on show

  • @kevinmccarthy8746
    @kevinmccarthy8746 2 роки тому

    WOW, You sound like a wonderful person. I can dig how you present your self and philosophic perspective.

  • @roberthicks9419
    @roberthicks9419 2 роки тому +1

    Great show!!

  • @seifattia97
    @seifattia97 2 роки тому +1

    Great episode 👏

  • @Tombstone88x
    @Tombstone88x Рік тому

    need this group back!!

  • @RK_KNIGHT
    @RK_KNIGHT Рік тому

    Good to hear how much they were getting, good postcast

  • @SuppTalk
    @SuppTalk 2 роки тому

    4 of the greats, wish Toney competed longer

  • @Grambling88
    @Grambling88 2 роки тому +2

    Love these shows.

  • @ronaldbohan2720
    @ronaldbohan2720 2 роки тому

    Good content.as a 62 years of age Pro Bodybuilder I don’t train super heavy any more I may stop in a middle of my reps or change my exercises up often . This is easier on the body!

  • @ThumbdownMan
    @ThumbdownMan 2 роки тому +3

    Good stories about lost cash in taxi.

  • @nhudson78
    @nhudson78 2 роки тому +2

    So cool Rupaul showed up

  • @michaelsloan1360
    @michaelsloan1360 2 роки тому

    One of the best bb pods I've heard

  • @sannitafl890
    @sannitafl890 2 роки тому

    LOVE AT 101% ! It’s a WONDERFUL vid and moment, mad about all of you guys, you’ve made the history in the best part of it ( surely, not missing to refer to “someone else” we can imagine well to whom I’m referring about). But, i mean, all of you had been - at the same time-treats, runners up, rookies and winners by whom to watch at the game as a faceted jewel by multiple sides by each one as different model and inspiration you all have been for years, each one with its peculiarities and own top qualities ( if only my MD Magazine and all the other magazines I ‘ve collected and read over and over again, could speak for me …Oh Lord:what a big deep emotion to see all of you there…)
    DENNIS: I love this and what it means so THANKS FROM HEART for this long-deep breath of fresh air among all the trash we are compelled to assist 2day(…)BLEESINGS TO ALL OF YOU GUYS, May Lord watch and protect your paths, your commitment and professionalism. 🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝💯💯💯💯💯
    [ ps. The content, the stories, the thoughts and reflections ..AND the joy of the moment Kevin jumps in,says SO MUCH (..not to say ALL..)And all the people in the industry should just “Thank” deeply to know today and learn by the wisdom, ( real ) knowledge and avenues you contributed to pioneer in your own part and at your own special way.]

  • @carlosl.garcia2745
    @carlosl.garcia2745 2 роки тому

    Amazing podcast! 🏆🥇💪

  • @patricklaurence9407
    @patricklaurence9407 Рік тому

    The Menace Podcast Show starring Dennis James. They've got Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone and Tony Freeman stream live conversation each other by the way. That's all!

  • @MaxMuscleABB
    @MaxMuscleABB 2 роки тому +1

    You can tell there is some old, bad, blood between Dennis & Toney. Toney says x-frames, names the other two guests, not Dennis. Dennis, "Thanks" LOL

  • @watugondu
    @watugondu 2 роки тому +2

    Freeman looks like Ru Paul ffs

  • @Retics
    @Retics Рік тому

    It's business! Clears up a lot

  • @brainhakker7133
    @brainhakker7133 Рік тому

    Good shit guys

  • @nojoom290
    @nojoom290 2 роки тому

    Great one.

  • @mikesmanstuff
    @mikesmanstuff 2 роки тому

    Kevin Levrone is My nr1 idol and role model

  • @thomasclinton4290
    @thomasclinton4290 Рік тому

    I agree Tony, there are loads of parasites even here in the USA.
    My girl & i do regular cleansing protocols throughout the year.
    Eosinophils on metabolic panel is just one possible indicator.
    Flukes must be treated, and are ubiquitous now especially in seafood

  • @srqmojo
    @srqmojo 2 роки тому +1

    Toney was so freaky for his height… it’s tough to pull off the illusion when you are taller to a certain extent.

  • @miketerjung8185
    @miketerjung8185 Рік тому

    Yes, Edgar Fletcher. But, also Rory Liedelmeyer. Pro or not pro, one of the best dudes ever… great physique and BIG

  • @fatboitino2
    @fatboitino2 2 роки тому +1

    IFBB was rough, sleeping in stables. No wonder they were so hardcore

  • @elliotsoto8901
    @elliotsoto8901 4 місяці тому

    I'd like to interject and add Vic Richard's to the conversation that never turned pro

  • @RobNerlandfit
    @RobNerlandfit 2 роки тому

    what i think would be great for the sport in total is for them to kinda pull a fast one on the classic physique class as a whole, raise the weight limit again, (and they have already done it a few times so it will be quite a large increase from the initial weight limits). Then one year drop the weight limit a bunch to near the beginning weight limit for classic. Now you will have a ton of classic guys that have gotten bigger, and they will have to make a choice, drop weight and give up muscle they have put on to mainitain that shape and look of classic, or try to continue mainintaining that look and move up into the open. Suddenly the open will have a bunch of new guys all with the looks everyone wants, and we will get to see how that does, that would be the most exciting bodybuilding season ever!

  • @FJD211
    @FJD211 2 роки тому

    I love it!

  • @RonBaezclassic
    @RonBaezclassic 2 роки тому +3

    Instant click!

  • @latman1
    @latman1 Рік тому

    What muscles are we developing now that's different from years ago with modern machines?🤔

  • @petepan1330
    @petepan1330 2 роки тому

    I hope you see this, if I missed this, my apologies. Can you explain the slow reps why, how and where? thank you!

  • @zacbro2841
    @zacbro2841 2 роки тому

    Jesus tony loves talking about himself doesn’t he, somehow managed to relate everything back to himself. Very impressive.

    • @lajosnagy6356
      @lajosnagy6356 2 роки тому

      He is actually way better than he used to be
      Much more open minded, that health stuff did him good

    • @zacbro2841
      @zacbro2841 2 роки тому

      @@lajosnagy6356 He did health stuff? He should have mentioned it. This is an old school bodybuilding round table not a self promo for Tony’s business and how he has a story better than anyone else. Bad personality trait.

    • @Retics
      @Retics Рік тому

      I'm almost 20 minutes in and everyone is throwing questions at him right now. The other 3 are regulars. Aaand, i want to hear Tony talk. Nobody has seen him

  • @iansleith
    @iansleith 2 роки тому

    I asked for the man and myth Mr Kevin Levrone and DJ delivers.

  • @Siddy_ulfr
    @Siddy_ulfr 2 роки тому +1

    Why noone mentioned Shawn rey

    • @Retics
      @Retics Рік тому

      I'm still early on with it but its obvious no one likes him. NOBODY mentions his name

  • @mitchellhayman381
    @mitchellhayman381 Рік тому

    Something about Kevin and flex wheeler gives me a weird vibe.

  • @VeeTaperTemplar
    @VeeTaperTemplar 2 роки тому

    Lat Spread for the Algo 💪🏼

  • @kamggames673
    @kamggames673 2 роки тому +1

    I disagree the whole why aren't top guys competing. Because they aren't paid. The promoters aren't paying. People aren't attending anymore. You know hard it is to get into Canada not to mention their strictest city of Toronto. It's nuts! Be honest guys

  • @leigh_carmichael
    @leigh_carmichael 2 роки тому

    Yes!!

  • @tmmnguyen4573
    @tmmnguyen4573 2 роки тому +1

    i see Toney smiling on his poster background, but het did not even smile 1 time in this 2 hour video.

  • @gaspayanga5982
    @gaspayanga5982 Рік тому

    1st he says he knows for a fact that he got the parasite from a photo shoot in dirty water and then a few minutes later he says he knows for a fact that he got his parasite from sushi

  • @RH33084
    @RH33084 2 роки тому

    We need Aaron Baker

  • @davidbensamuel4144
    @davidbensamuel4144 Рік тому

    🔥

  • @RonHarrisMuscle
    @RonHarrisMuscle 2 роки тому

    That's the third or fourth time I have heard Kevin tell that story about Joe telling him why he couldn't win the Mr. Olympia, and it still bothers me. It basically tells you Joe fixed the show so the guy he wanted to win would win!

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa Рік тому +1

      i call BS on that claim
      the fact of the matter is Kevin was never good enough to beat Dorian
      in 92 he was too small abd backless, in 93 he was off because he was still coming back from the pec tear, in 94-95 he looked great but still not good enough. In 96 he was smallish and flat-peaked earlier that yr at the AC. In 97 he came in off, was in sixth place after prejudging.
      Dorian wasnt a marketable guy AT ALL- NOT American, NOT aesthetic, not training under the Weider training principles. Didnt like doing shoots, never smiled and the American audience didnt really relate to him even though they admired his work ethic
      The British market was hardly big at the time. If they targeted the European market they could have used more marketable guys like milos
      the fact of the matter is by the 90s the weiders had almost no involvement anymore wayne demillia was running the show largely.
      As for the other guys Yates beat for the title
      Ray was never gonna win given how small he was and how he routinely badmouthed the wayne demillias and judges
      Wheeler was too damn inconsistent with his condition, always peaked at the Ironman and AC and came in off at the O
      Nasser was gigantic but was amateur level from the back and had a weird structure-shallow from the side and long torsoed w short stumpy legs. He was also balding and a creep who badmouthed everyone on the pro circuit

    • @RonHarrisMuscle
      @RonHarrisMuscle Рік тому

      @@TheLusianPopa So you are saying Kevin is lying, that Joe Weider never said that to him?

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa Рік тому

      @@RonHarrisMuscle he is proly grossly exaggerating or didnt understand what Joe was trying to tell him
      not calling him a flat liar

  • @DefferJohn
    @DefferJohn 2 роки тому +1

    I thought you would have picked Dave Palumbo to be the best bodybuilder, to never turn pro! Come on! He's shape were ridiculous! 🤣👍🏼👌🏼

  • @vinceyoung5912
    @vinceyoung5912 Рік тому

    Come on Chris. The thing you should’ve changed was your party lifestyle.

  • @brainhakker7133
    @brainhakker7133 Рік тому

    It's AMAZING how Every single BodyBuilder who's Ever Been On a podcast has taken The ABSOLUTE Bare Minimum of Gear ...... ALL OF YOU are L-Y-I-N-G !!

  • @DavenportBarbell
    @DavenportBarbell 2 роки тому

    I don’t exactly know why but I like this podcast so much more than Fouads I think it’s because on Fouads they talk about so much stupid stuff not related to bodybuilding at all this podcast is all bodybuilding

  • @Dopesi
    @Dopesi 2 роки тому

    Does toney have a IG

  • @mitchellhayman381
    @mitchellhayman381 Рік тому +1

    I don't know about Tony's personality, but he's gone in the scone. Some of the things he's states as facts are just ridiculous and defy logic.

  • @haroonmirza1286
    @haroonmirza1286 2 роки тому

    Rory Leidelmeyer was the BEST BBer not to have turned pro PERIOD!

  • @ifbbprocoupleim9919
    @ifbbprocoupleim9919 2 роки тому

    Great Podcast, but Kevin has to learn to let others speak too

  • @dermaltec7243
    @dermaltec7243 2 роки тому

    Pre show colonics standard now 😂😂

  • @kennywright88
    @kennywright88 Рік тому

    Freeman in his prime OBLITERATES ANDREW JACKED.

  • @dannyjay2425
    @dannyjay2425 2 роки тому

    Milos will compete 2 more times to be king

  • @randyschaar7843
    @randyschaar7843 2 роки тому

    Don't let him talk lol

  • @DiMiTri-ys7ei
    @DiMiTri-ys7ei 2 роки тому +1

    Mylos

  • @matmax4704
    @matmax4704 2 роки тому

    Damn this guy Milos Sercev talks a lot ! Lol 😂 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @erandamunasingha8158
    @erandamunasingha8158 2 роки тому

    👍👍👍