EXTREME FREEZING HOT TENT. NO WOOD HEAT
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
- In this video, I am using an old white gas stove as a heating source in my tent. This is a technique that military members use, and it's nuts. I am testing this hack out in cold weather without a floor in my tent. I will spend hours trying to heat the tent and trying to keep well ventilated and fed.
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Ahhhh, the sound, smell of a Coleman stove. ❤ brings back memories of waking up to my father lighting and cooking breakfast on one while camping in the late 60’s. Think it’s the only time he ever cooked anything 😂 🇨🇦
One of my earliest memories is my dad cooking fresh rainbow trout over an old F
Green Coleman stove. I can still remember the smell off the Coleman!
“Here’s the thing, Don’t do it! Just don’t do it!” Haha! Love it. Cheers Jay
Definitely do not do it. Ha
Where is the digital carbon monoxide detector@@jaylegere
Because you have done this test I will never have too. I will be heated by a wood stove and cook my food on the Coleman. I appreciate you doing these tests and hope you are safe. I have learned so much from you over the years! I use rainstorms and thunder to help me sleep I have a great app for insomnia.
No problem if you ventilate proper. I use big heater (4.5kw parafin/diesel or propan) in a wery small, low tent.
I have done this for about 15years, and most of the time i go alone with snowmobile up to 1200altitude lakes, about 200km above the polar-circle icefishing. :)
May I suggest that turning flame down to have just blue flame. Orange flame is incomplete combustion.
When lighting the second burner: Since the first burner has already heated the generator, the fuel is already a gas (vapor). There is no need for firestarter paste, etc. Turn the burner on, and give it a spark, just like you would a propane stove.
Always check the UNLITE side. This valve tends to sneak partway open, often. Always make sure it is off tight. :) In the 70's they used to set a coleman lantern on the floor of the Volkswagon to keep the driver warm. The gasoline heaters in them, didn't work well. You would be safe closing some of them holes through the tent.
Great tip
My late hubby and I did the Coleman white gas stove and latern and the lantern itself nearly blew up . I was holding my breath watching you lite being happy you were outside. Needless to say , once we had a fireball both those items never came home again. We went solar and kerosene and propane . Never again white gas. Thanks for the memories .
I think the biggest problem with the heat source approach is that you just don't have a lot of thermal mass from heating the air. You could try throwing a fire brick on the flame, or, like another commenter mentioned, a terra cotta pot. Heating only the air won't overcome all that cold floor. Also, why dont you bring a CO2 sensor so you'd actually know if you're in danger? Keep up the great videos, I've enjoyed them for years.
Makes me want to dig my Coleman gear out of storage.
Thanks for another entertaining video Mr. Legere!
My Jay Legere routine…click on video, immediately like and comment, then sit back and watch with a cup of coffee.
Heated old Canadian military tent with just coleman lanterns in 80s. Worked fine and there were a few of us in there. I think you don't need as much ventilation as you've created as you're losing all your heat. Couple of small openings was all we had if I remember correctly. Also, we obviously didn't go to sleep with the lantern on... was a lot of frozen gear in the mornings.
It still hasn’t changed, Arctic tent (10 man) with a Coleman stove and lantern.
Man I love those old style stoves an lanterns takes me back to my childhood when I was less poor than I am now!
Click on as soon as I see Jay’s here! Such a nice man, so sincere. Boy have you come a long way buddy. Such an adventurous spirit.
Love the experimentation Jay. Another great video on the books. Keep them coming!
When my children were young, we used to take them camping. They loved it. But I refused to take them any time of the year when it got too cool for comfort. This was because my husband thought that there was nothing wrong with using the Coleman stove and lantern inside the tent. He refused to read the directions, which scared me to death because I always read directions. Especially the warnings. We all survived but I am sure it was only because of me.
We never did family camping in the cold but we used all the devices you used (all summer long) so it brought back memories of all the pumping and filling and the scary process of changing the mantle in the lantern - that thing always scared me. That was fun, thanks.
We used to use the Coleman lantern to heat up our ice fishing house. Doors closed and never had a problem. Made it toasty in the ice shack... Great video Jay!!!! Lot's of great memories!!!
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Fan for me. Even as a kid in the winter I had to use it. The noise and even the cool air helped me sleep. It's therapeutic
Great camp video Jay, my mate got me a 70s camping stove it still works thanks Jay for taking us with you on your amazing adventures
The best thing about this video is that it should keep folks from relying on gas stoves for anything except a matter of life or death. And I'm thinking even then it would be a mistake. Thanks for sharing. Wood stoves can't be beat!
Totally agree.
Pumped for the Winter content, Good job Jay!
Glad you survived to give us warning about the dos and don’ts on Coleman stove and lantern.
While watching you, l had a strong desire for my winter gear!🥶🥶🥶🥶
I love the simplicity and effectiveness of the stove and lantern
A lot of comments are good memories of using them
For your piece of mind, a CO monitor would be good the next time
Great video 🇨🇦❤️
Probably be ok for the summer with plenty of ventilation. Great video 👍
Nice camping chair setup. Looks comfortable and sturdy
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Ok. I’ll mention it. “pumped it really hard to get it going at first…” Thanks Jay for the belly laugh. Nearly spit my coffee out!
"...a little fuel came out." Got me laughing too.
I lived in Yellowknife for 36 years left in 2004.we set up a winter camp every winter at Johnston lake . Canvass tent and wood stove. Ice fishing for pickerel.I’m glad you’re not sleeping with the Coleman stove. Those give me a headache,the fumes.I enjoy watching your show and I really like the cabin. I miss the north and all the lake adventure.
I’ll be watching 👍
Tks for the great video, always look forward to seeing what you're up too. ❤
Thank you Jay for sharing your knowledge and making these videos. I am not sure that I will ever need any of what I learned, but you never know. And I am one of the people who needs white noise to sleep, and I also have a fan running at night. God Bless You.🙏😊
Great video, also I just love your laugh, lol. So genuine and funny!
I to love something that makes noise I sleep better. Enjoy your videos, keep'em coming!
Love your videos and enjoy watching them. May the lord bless and protect you Jay
In the 1960's,y dad used to take us camping. In the fall we would go up to New Hampshire ( I'm from Massachusetts) where it would get pretty chilly at night
He used a Coleman heater that used naphtha fuel to keep us warm. Never had any problems. Cper wasn't really airtight anyway. He would light it outside because the flame went REALLY high when he put yhe match to it.
Great video Jay!
Thanks for the videos, makes a nice wilderness reprieve from urban noise
I'm so glad that was your advice! This whole video made me nervous...hahaha
LOL...I don't blame you for not freezing your butt off. I love cold weather, but I have my limits. Good to see you enjoying yourself. You are in your element out in the woods.
I was sooo nervous watching this one but couldn't look away! ❤
Love waking up to your video on a Sunday morning. I get to watch it over morning coffee, lol. My Dad taught me all about using Coleman stoves when I was a kid. I think you are over thinking the smell. As you said, carbon Monoxide has absolutely no odor. You had enough ventilation from the floor making its way out of the top. Enjoy the process and keep warm, lol.
Hi Jay maybe you can find out how the military survived in the winter I think they use other ways just a tip for next video 😊 but you really make us think about it 😊
Love how Jay LOVES his food, oh yeah baby 😆 I love his FAMOUS HOT CHIPS 🥔
Well I will have to say we still use those stove in our 10 pers tent but we also have a lantern and... you will get the Coleman fume eyes. That tent you have is amazing I had one and used a liquid fuel Yukon stove to keep it nice and warm all the way to -44c. Be safe out there! Cheers!
Great video buddy nice new cooking gear
Jay, thanks for this video. I was busting a gut...😅. I agree that your wood stove will be the best option for you, but the military stuff does kind of work when we have to....lol. Much appreciated for trying and showing folks your challenges. Cheers from Alberta!
HEY! Good morning Jay and thumbs UP!!
Great job great video jay mon ami
Another top video jay getting winter on its way 🥶🥶🥶⛺⛺⛺⛺⛺
Love the videos
I had elk round steak for lunch with can corn. The addition of the cooked onions looked yummy. I like the Coleman product line even though i only camp with my family the lantern may surprise you with the amount of heat it gives off.
You went right back out there. You crazy but I love it Jay. Don’t freeze your arse off . I don’t like noise when I’m trying to sleep. It keeps me awake. It’s kinda cold being tough huh Jay. Oh yes good morning.
Jay, happy to see your not on your roof LoL:) Awesome video on does and don’ts . At one time I collected Colman stoves (7)and globe heaters(3), now I only have one stove with a green Coleman stand. Naphtha fuel has tripled in price ! CHEERS Fella from Ontario
Nice experiment!
Good morning Jay, great video I don't blame you, people may have done it in the pass but that looks dangerous ,stay safe
I respect your caution and great video just remember:
This is not crazy its all we had for decades and is 10000 percent safer than wood. Also you need much less ventilation most of thesmell you talk about is the initial burn
Remember people burned wood and dung in huts with only a hole in the roof for hundreds of years
Just remember
i like the wood stove setup with this tent
thx for the upload i love the content i like these side chaleenges
all Coleman stove's and Lantern's using white gas you have to repump after lighting them. I used one most of my life at the hunting camp.
When i was a kid in the early 70s late 60s we use to visit friends and relatives that didn't have power and they used gas lamps with mantles ..The lamps were long and hung from the ceiling and came with a separate pump to pressurize them..I remember the sound they made use to put me to sleep..Good times and i will always remember that hissing sound...
I did a few things in the military that I would not recommend to sane people (and yeah, sometimes those categories are mutually exclusive). This one, though, it's like you said - if the alternative is between certain death by freezing and possible death by asphyxiation, there really isn't a good choice. Avoiding double whammys like that is how young soldiers get to be old soldiers.
Yes. light thru the hole at the bottom and don't screw the top nut on too tight. Expansion and contraction will damage the finish if it is too tight.
Jay: the other heat source to try Diesel heater. But from Vevor… Puts out intense heat. Need a 12 volt battery, insulated hosing for exhaust into a muffler and intake.. very easy to set up . Most units come in Aluminum casing. Price is very reasonable.. Get one for around $150.. everyone using for ice fishing tents, shelters, heating garages etc.. Very cheap to run.
I've been considering one of these to test out
hello Jay great video think if i had to chose id go with the woodstove ..have a great day we had the northern lights last night (never happens ) and i missed it
I use a buddy heater, it works great too. However I've used just my cooking stoves in a small two man tent and it works great too. thanks
Nothing to be scared about. I live 200km north of the polar-cirkle. So I sleep 50-100 nights every year in end-season when iam in the mountains catching the last Arctic char before summer-mwlt closes the paths upp in the highlands.
I have a low "popup" tent and 4500w parafin or propan heater without stovepipe.
No problems as long as you ventilate well and have "intake" near stove! The most danger is if you get in a snowstorm and you get the wents full of snow!
I get over +25° if i go full steam on heater even if its -35 deegrees outside. :)
Great video love them keep it up
Love your videos! Awful glad u decided NOT to sleep in the tent with those appliances burning. I knew u had more common sense than that!!!
I know wood is a pain (up & down all night), but much safer. Keep them coming!!
Great video and highly informative, may I suggest taking along a carbon monoxide detector along just curious if it would go off.
Those laterns are beautiful, but i hate lighting them lol, think they are going explode lol. I know they give off a lot of fumes , growing up in a remote area we would often lose our power and use to use those latterns for light a lot.
Keep the videos coming
Jay, we dig a pit just inside the door. It acts as a cold sump keeping the "upper" part of the tent warmer. Your stove should only take 10 pumps to be full of air. If not you need to replace the leather on the pump in the tank.
Jay, there is no safety when the Army does this, they just hope CO2 deaths are low. They don't even care if we freeze. We also use the coleman lantern and 6 or 7 other dudes. Pine boughs on the floor and a groundsheet. Gotta learn to survive caise everyone else is just trying the same.
The BTU'S generated by the Coleman stove are no comparison to the wood stove. The propane bottles give a cleaner burn than the older white gas stove. You have improved with the feral rod. Those skills are perishable when not used regularly.
Thanks for the comment, Mark. Jay
If you want a wild time use a feral rod.
An orange flame gives off carbon monoxide. A blue flame is a clean burning flame.
That’s useful. Thanks for sharing.
No flame😂
🤔umm ur still going to get carbon monoxide
@@dylansegato14 not necessarily. Buddy heater have clean burning ame and don't give Carbon monoxide. I always have my carbon monoxide defector and it never goes off
@@stephgiroux7745 yes it doesn’t go off because buddy heaters have a built in carbon detectors to automatically shut off.. but you will still get carbon monoxide from any burning material
When I was born. My mother had a hard time getting me to sleep. And with insomnia I find the one thing that helps me sleep is a fan. No matter how cold I get. I have to simply have a fan going. Or I will not sleep at all.
Your winter camping are always enjoyable to watch. Much loves form Singapore 🇸🇬 ❤️❤️❤️
Hi, what’s the Chilly Crab like on the East Coast? Has the Punggol Chilly Crab survived? Oh, the memories! Cheers mate. Harera
Wow Jay you took me back to my childhood any time you use liquid gas should always be outside. The lanter if it does not have enough fuel it fade in and out so you trun it up. Only time you take it apart is to clean and put more bags on . If you go through a lot of bags in one night you have it up to high. There are what we called a tree you can use with what you have with propain. Light at the top stove on a picnic table with a C clamp and a tail that will hook into a 25gallon tank. Only time I would put that in anything would be a screened in tent. As for the stove keeping the tent warm I understand it but knowing the floor taking my heat I would go get ever greens to put on the floor to keep more of my heat in plus I would sleep with a tarp around me to hold my heat in. As a girl scout and one of the last Eagle scouts in my age group we winter camped one to three times a year my folks were the troop leaders. Sorry for the rambling but you took me back to a great part of my life. Thank you from Illinois
Good comments!
Oh yeah. The sleep noise question. I use a sound spa. I think the brand is Homedics. It has a choice of several different sounds, like rainstorm, thunder, heartbeat, waterfall, creek. I use the rainstorm. I've been using one since the 90s. The old analog ones were better than the digital, but oh well. It's noise.
Good video again always enjoy the cooking segments question do you ever add mushrooms to your steak? White button cap or even chicken of the woods along with the onions and maybe a pepper just a thought good move not staying overnight with that in the tent
Can confirm these stoves and lanterns were still used by the Canadian Military until at least winter 2017 when I got out. That lantern and stove will keep a 10 man tent more than comfortable in record lows. Keep in mind the military tents are thick, double walled canvas with no windows or ports save for the front door and and chimney spout so they retain heat much better. Keeping a candle lit in the tent can help burn away any fumes that linger and if sealed up for long enough, the air gets stale so you can get a burning sensation in the eyes. Catch is, someone is always awake in the tent to monitor the stove, never is a lit stove left unattended. The only downside of trying to get a good nights sleep while solo camping with an open flame in your tent, is raising the risk beyond acceptable levels IMO. Great if there's a few of you to pull fire watch, would recommended a different heating source for solo adventures.
I used to set my Coleman tank up with a very small stream of fuel spraying into my wood stove onto a piece of cinder block positioned in the middle so it behaved like a low powered gas furnace that kept my little hut warm all night.
And since the wood stove had a good airtight drafting exhaust pipe there was no trouble with any fumes and it would run between 10 to 12 hours on one tank!
I've been thinking about creating a updated modern alcohol gas or oil version maybe for hot tent stoves with a bigger tank so you can really crank up the heat that will hold enough fuel to last all night.
What do you think about it?
Ya have to wonder, how do those natural gas space heaters in every old house that are just gas flames burning across ceramic blocks without any type of fume exhaust system work without gassing people?
Jay, I was surprise you put up that tent without your wooden stove, I never saw do that before trying to do something different like use Coleman stove and Linton for a hot source that would kill you bad Idea
The temperature difference would create airflow, so you don't have to worry so much about ventilation. If you needed to do that for survival, I'm sure you'd only need a couple of small openings in the tent to get it vented well. Just a cross current.
Jay: why didn’t you put the floor down. It comes with the tent . Carbon monoxide detector would have been a good idea. The flaps of the tent were wide open? Can’t keep heat in with most of them open and the door too? I’m sure if you put the floor down to insulate things : would have been a different outcome. The stove starts out an orange flame But you turn it down to Blue Flame Has all the Heat !! I’d have brought lots of candles and put in tin cans large tomato or bigger… Likely give you more heat…. Best suggestion: Bring your stove and have lots of firewood!!!
One mistake a lot of people make they get so scared about having ventilation they overventilate lol. Carbon dioxide is heavier than air so it has a tendency to stay down low your tent with no floor in it even if you zipped up all the windows. It's probably got so many air leaks that that stove would probably not hurt you lol but I could understand leaving a 6-in gap in a window near the stove. But not all the doors and windows open😂
I have one. I love it
Nice vid; you don't need fire starter or fire paste to light stove, spark wheel or ferro rod sparks are more than sufficient, the ferro rod being the best choice. I agree, get a co2 detector and close up most of air vents. Wouldn't it be more prudent to try your unfamiliar equipment out before you went on your adventure?
We use the Hatch noise machine which is so good makes it really difficult sleeping without it ha
man you are killing that steak max 4 minutes a side so bloody good
airplane phone app. good attempt here Jay
Jay haven't seen all your vids of the past. Did you ever do one on the apparel you use to keep cozy? what do you think is the best?
CAF member here, we still hear the tents the exact same way.
You can have much less ventilation than you were running as well. We only open the stove jack, provides plenty of air.
I must have been doing something wrong. The smell was very strong. Thanks for commenting. Jay
@@jaylegere the smell is always around for us too. A common injury if we get stuck in bad weather is called tent eye. People’s eyes get red from the excess fumes in the air. That being said, it really shouldn’t be that noticeable at all, make sure that pressure is kept very high. Flame should be blue/white and never orange.
It can be difficult to maintain that pressure, which is why we always have one person on “stove watch”.
Turn the burners on low and keep a pot of water on the burner, or both burners. With those air intakes and the stove exhaust you'd be fine with the doors and windows closed. But I'm old and don't know anything.
Have you ever done tacos and stroganoff in the winter tent with potato and onions or a potato bar and Mac n cheese or farmers delight
Another great video! I look forward to these after each weekend. I hope you didn’t slightly poison yourself and get sick this week. Take care and see you in your next video.
Jay you need to learn how to light an old Colman stove. 🥺
That’s how we heat our ice hut, just make sure it’s ventilated.
Here are a couple of clues. Coleman sold/sells these as stoves, not heaters. They run on white gas, which is pretty clean, but in a closed and insufficiently ventilated area can be dangerous at worst and stinky at best. Never use something like you've used here with your cotton stick and leave it there. A match will always do the trick. The yellow flame you see coming off of glorified cigarette butt means you're not getting an efficient burn of your fuel, adding to the fumes. These are parts available nearly bulletproof pieces of kit, that deserve actual care, but they operate a little like a mix between an old school car carburetor a natural gas heater. Keep them clean, don't drop crap in the burner, ventilate properly and they'll last for a long time and pretty much outperform most of the new stuff out today without all the stinky fumes you're getting.
I use rechargeable fan a little buddy to push heat around.
I don't think I would like them either. They just don't seem safe rn imo. Great video. Thnx for the heads up. Tyfs God bless you
I’ve always needed some kind of background noise to help me sleep. I use fans and also ASMR videos of various things.. waves, rain, mouth sounds, etc.
Pulsing Coleman lantern typically means there's a Sasquatch in the area.
Like a Spidey sense.
Huh haven't heard that one before 🤔 😁
What's up jay!!
Jay, your flame is too orange. Not all of the fuel is burning. Air/fuel mixture is not correct. A good bit is being expelled into the tent. That's what you're smelling.
Thanks for the information!