Remember when the original Disney Hunchback story ended with Quasi not having a relationship but was given a better ending of public acceptance and friendship? This movie ruined that
Lance Clearman Quazi cared more about his freedom than love. He just got caught up in his feelings for a chick that didn't like him like that. He cared more for his freedom than getting the girl.
Oh no! We taught the kids you *can* be happy *without* a girlfriend? The horror!! In all seriousness, the first Disney Hunchback movie was a thing of beauty and one of the best movies I've ever seen. Sometimes they've really gotta leave well enough alone.
It didn't have to ruin it; it was just the bad quality. After all, just because the hero doesn't get the first girl he falls in love with doesn't mean he has to never get any girl, ever.
My ex girlfriend had an obsession with the first Hunchback, Disney movies and the novel alike. So naturally I ended up finding this, thinking to myself "Oh, she might like this, I'm such a good boyfriend to show this to her." I watched it first, and... Yeah.
This story could have worked if Sarousch was a master of witchcraft. Knowing that Frollo was killed, he is no longer afraid to show off his skills, but he passes it off as witchcraft.
Actually, I think he is a master of witchcraft. He makes three juggling balls disappear from his hands and into Zephyr's hand and makes the bell disappear with smoke and mirrors.
Or after The chaos in Paris an Inqussission from The vatican comes for investigation seeking vengance for The murder of a judge. Were The plot could had been more provning systematic religion halts progress. Or something idunno
Yeah, Love Never Dies is one of the most disgusting examples of bad fanfiction stories that ever tried to get to passed off as canon. I'm sorry but when everyone gets the Ron the Death-Eater trope in order to make the Phantom (an obsessed stalker who strangles people) look like he deserves Christine it's utter shit. And I love how obtuse it is with how it has Raoul painted as the bad person, yet Christine is the one who slept with Erik the night before their wedding and lied for 10 years him being the baby daddy. She's a huge bitch to do that and not only that but it undoes her conviction that she won't be used by a stalker when she turns her back on him in the end of the first one. They try to make Erik look deserving of love yet still have him make threats to Christine about killing her son if she won't sing his milquetoast sappy love song (Love Never Dies is the most generic boring love ballad). Sorry but I'll stick to the original where the characters weren't 180 depictions of themselves.
Nightman221k Musical Hell did a solid job at covering the problems of "Love Never Dies". Although between LND or Hunchback II, I'd pick LND because at least it has nice songs. I'm picking a poison, though.
Wait the people that animated Batman and Animaniacs also did this? WHAT THE?! After you brought that up I can defiantly see it in this movie...YIKES. Side note extra points for mentioning the broadway version of Hunchback :D
I have to admit...I did laugh at this one scene: *Captain Phoebus*: "How many times have I ever been wrong?" (His horse starts counting on his hoof) *Captain Phoebus*: "That was a rhetorical question!"
Imagine the staff at Disney talking about creating this movie in a meeting. "So you know that one movie we made that was arguably the darkest movie that we've ever made, is critically acclaimed, and had an amazing story, as well as one of the creepiest and powerful villains we've ever had? Well, how about we take away the villain, and all of the dark moments we had in the first one, and made even more time with the gargoyles than the previous one. Wouldn't that make an excellent movie?" *Animator raises their hand* "Yes?" "Actually, that sounds insanely awful, especially considering the great movie that came before it." *"YOU'RE FIRED"*
This movie was released long before this trend became mainstream. Heck, I didn't even know there was a sequel until I saw a whole shelf with DVDs in the store nextdoor.
I love The Hunchback of Notre Dame for many of the same reasons. There's also its gorgeous animation and amazing soundtrack. Hellfire is one of the best Disney songs ever! The Hunchback of Notre Dame is actually my favourite of all the traditionally animated Disney films so I hate this insult to the original.
Hunchback got into a lot of really deep symbolism and religious parallels and themes that really worked and really stuck out because it's stuff that no other film that I've heard of has really been able to tackle in the same way with subtlety and complexity to its characters. BUUUUTTT, at the same time, it's still a Disney film and it felt like they were still trying to shove stuff that just didn't fit into an otherwise great, dark, narrative purely for the sake of being able to market to kids. At the heart of the film was this great story but then, in the background, there's just this weird kids' film schlock that at least heavily felt like it was ordered from the executives instead of actual creative choices made by the writers behind the actual film. And those parts held it back. So, instead of giving us the well-written darker narrative we should have gotten, what do we get? The story that the people behind the 'kids movie' parts of the original wanted to tell and, big surprise, it's as hokey and forced gargoyle 'jokes' and stuff were in the original. It seems obvious where this shitfest came from, they took EVERYTHING that didn't work in the original and decided to throw it into a blender to try and play it safe and it just ends up as a giant flaming mess instead of something that could have been actually interesting and touched on some good material.
and lets ignore the fact that bejeweling the inside of a bell is THE STUPIDEST IDEA EVER! Not only it will ruin the sound, but everytime the bell is struck, IT WILL SHATTER ALL THE JEWELS! Seriously, the isnide of a bell takes an INSANE amount of punishment, hence bells are made of solid steel, brass or copper.
But every time the kid talks, it plays the entire Bee Movie but whenever they say bee, it plays Star Wars A New Hope but whenever a stormtrooper misses a target, it plays Lazy Town's Master of Disguise but whenever the word "disguise" is said, it plays the movie Willow but whenever Madmartigan or "peck" is said, it plays the entire live action Scooby-Doo movie.
For the love of Christ, DO NOT make this movie into a meme. The first one is fine, totally fair game, but this, the direct-to-DVD sequel? NEVER. We don't need another meme source as unbearably godawful as The Nutshack.
I think a better sequel for the Hunchback of Notre Dame II would be about Quasimodo's father. Cause we know the mother dies, but the father gets arrested and taken away at the beginning of the movie, we don't know what happens to him. Maybe he escaped and then he returns to reunite with Quasimodo. That would be interesting
I always assumed, the guy that was found with his mother was a companion or friend, but not her lover. When looking at Quasi, mostly due to his complexion, features, and hair color, I always imaged that his father might have been a Frenchman. But the Gypsies could be any combination of races and features too, so there's no telling. Still, it would have been a lot more interesting to find out more about his father or his family and roots in general, than whatever tripe this movie was.
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I like how he at least took the time to mention TMS. I was expecting him to just rant on the animation like everyone else, but he actually talked about their own style, and that it just didn't belong in the film.
The animation studio angle was interesting. I didn't that they were attached to all those good products before Hunchback 2. One thing I dislike about a lot of these Disney sequels is how low the stakes are. Hunchback 1: Frollo wants to exterminate the Gypsies and use Esmeralda to satisfy his lust. Hunchback 2: some guy wants to steal a bell, how riveting.
"Imagine someone to love who loves you, imagine to look in her eyes and see, imagine how extraordinary it would be..." Uh, I did that once, people made fun of me...
What's really interesting is with that statement about TMS doing better harsher emotion, two of their higher profile shows from this year (besides the D.Gray Man sequel) were a slice of life High School story and a feel good cute anime. Of course, difference of 20 years can change specialty a bit, but it is interesting to notice.
I once read a comment that said that the animators probably designed Zephyr to look like a copy of Phoebus so people didn't start making theories about Frollo being the real father.
@@errolluck8347nah. Zephyr’s design was so lazy imo, considering all he was is a young Phoebus. Like come on, where’s his Romani features from his mother?? At least Melody looked like a mix between her mother and father
What to do for a notre-dame 2.... They did the obvious and trite "get him a girlfriend." Cuz they shallow. The other obvious answer that doesn't completely crap on the first one is "find his relatives." Like, learn more about his ma what died. Maybe bring in a little bit of the original book. Maybe we learn His dad was a frenchman accidentally outs his mom to frollo for being a romani which leads to her running with quasi in the beginning of the first movie. Her body is dumped with the other "criminal" bodies and his dad in his remorse starves to death hanging with mom. Quasi's search for his parents ends seeing his parent's skeletons together. All interwoven in wacky "search for my past" hijink plot.
Another way to make it a little bit more logical: okay, he gets a girlfriend, but that girlfriend is blind and that's why she doesn't care about his ugliness at all. Plus, it would be a reference to Victor Hugo's "The man who laughs"
I just had the screenwriter for this movie, Jule Selbo, as my college professor. She's terrible. I'm trying to forget everything I've learned from her. She wouldn't come into office hours, she'd add things to my story that made no sense, and kept insisting I use her 11 step structure to write a story when my own structure was very similar, just to name a few things. This woman is unorganized and her book Genres for Screenwriters essentially explains superficially how each genre has reoccurring themes. You know the stuff you'd learn if you just watched movies. I'm so glad I'm out of her class Doug you have know idea. Seeing this video just helps reassure me that I'm not alone. Thanks.
Honestly, the only funny quote in the sequel is this: "Wait a minute! String of robberies begin the moment the circus comes to town? Coincidence? I don't think so!" It shows how stupid he is in the sequel.
Step 4 hide the jewels were only quasi knows so it makes sense why they need him to show where they are and get him out of there so he can't tell anyone till it is too late
I think when people talk about this, it's usually as a representation of everything wrong with the Disney sequels: bad animation, dumb clichéd stories, continuing stories no one wanted to see continued...
There are a lot of things I hate about Hunchback II; the stupid script, bland and annoying characters, awful animation, the fucking Gargoyles and this film's mere existence, but the one thing I hate about it most is the new villain. In the original, we had a villain (Frollo) who was dark, cold, twisted, perverted, xenophobic, blasphemous, psychopathic and somewhat of a pyromaniac. Here, this guy (Sarousch) is just a petty thief with an unhealthy obsession with himself. No.........just no. Lets face it, Frollo is what made the majority of the original Hunchback so awesome.
Personally I think it would have been much more compelling if they focused more on Sarousch tricking Madellaine into thinking the world is a dark cruel place. He does say that to her early on the film and I couldn't help but think they could've dove more into that. Like she could relate to Quasimodo in how they both were tricked into how the world works. Wouldn't that have been more interesting? That would have made so much more sense and would have made Quasimodo and Madeline's relationship stronger.
I still remember the trailer when Jennifer Love Hewitt herself said this movie was a sweet story and that you would want to watch it over and over again
Frollo should sing Hellfire to send this movie straight to where it belongs, in hell! LOL This movie is horrible, one of the worst Disney Sequels ever, anyone agree?
I completely agree with you Critic. Of all the Disney sequels they have created, this one is definitely in the top 5 if I were doing a list of the absolute worst Disney sequels. Right up there with Cinderella 2, The Fox and the Hound 2, Lady and the Tramp 2 and the Beauty and the Beast sequels. The Hunchback of Notre Dame is probably one of Disney's darkest and most unique animated films. Why? Because it was willing to go places that the other films wouldn't in order to tell it's story. Judge Frollo was the very essence of evil. He is probably one of Disney's darkest villains in my book. He brainwashed Quasimodo into believing he was a monster, he tried to seduce Esmeralda and then burn Esmeralda alive when she refused him (not to mention burning all of Paris down trying to find her) and lets not forget the scene where the people literally throw Quasimodo on a wheel and torture him. The villain in this one is just a pompous, boring peacock who uses a pretty girl to get what he wants. The sequel is just watered down, painfully acted, and its message is supposed to be sweet and charming but it comes off as boring and cliched because they put no creativity into it, unlike in other Disney films. Granted, Disney has produced some sequels that have been good. The Rescuers Down Under even surpassed the original as a far superior film. This one, on the other hand, failed miserably.
I don't know, I've only seen the first little bit of it, but hey surely it will be better than what he just reviewed, considering he has to do that and Stitch the Movie next
@Yoyo Mackoy my favourite is lion king 2. I legit liked it more than the first one. I also have a soft spot for lilo and stitch 2 and kronk's new groove
I feel bad for the kids who enjoyed this film as a kid but sadly grew up, rewatched and appreciated the brilliance of the first one, and then rewatched this only to be entirely disappointed
I don’t know if I should be glad or mad that Tony Jay is nowhere in this film. Because I love him as Frollo, but I would see his character trashed in this crap sequel..
The first movie is a masterpiece in my eyes and is my favorite Disney adaptation ever. I absolutely refuse to acknowledge this movie's existence whenever possible. The pure fact that Disney made this happen frustrates me to the core. Thanks for giving this sequel a thorough thrashing.
the first movie is one of my favorite disney films of all time, so i was ecstatic when i saw that they made a sequel. i watched the first 3 minutes before bailing because of the animation.
He's teased it on occasion and implied that he dislikes all but the first one but has never given his true thoughts on the sequels. Fievel Goes West was good but flawed in my opinion. I find the direct-to-video ones mediocre, not as bad as they could have been but not really good either and surely not as good as the original.
Yeah, I get it, La Fidel is supposed to be a metaphor inner beauty, but one thing that I find kinda dumb about that bell is that jewels don't ring, so it would suppress the sound, wouldn't it?
I don't mind him getting a girlfriend as much either, as long as the plot holes were fixed, the characters made more interesting, maybe make the girlfriend suicidal with back up reason and Quasimodo helping her, the villain being legitimately threatening (possibly abusive), develop the romance rather than do nothing with it, the story more thought provoking, and getting rid of the pointless bell and especially the gargoyles.
I hope he reviews that one. It was the best sequel in my opinion. It made Cinderella pretty determined and sneaky and I love that. Plus the animation was great and the twisted use of the magic was pretty surprising to see come from Disney (the warped carriage ride with Lucifer driving was a really creepy twist on the happy carriage scene in the original).
I LOVED this movie when I was a kid. I would argue to no end with my friends that this was a good movie. Then I actually saw the first one and now I can't sit through the full movie without getting bored.
I remember renting this when I was younger. I remember the plot, but not how I felt about it. I can be certain I didn't think it was anywhere close to the original. The original is one of my favorite movies.
You know what would have been a better sequel? Frollo taking the form of a firedemon, escaping hell and taking an army of demons with him to get Esmeralda, him burning city over city, until all of France is covered in fire and ashes. That would be kinda awesome, I dunno.
I'm guessing its the same idea about Pocahontas as a lot of people bitched about the historical accuracy then boom PocahontasxJohn Rolfe. With Hunchback a lot of people were sad Quasi didn't get the girl then boom generic love interest for Quasi. Although I have to admit as much as I haaaaated this movie I still listen to I'm Gonna Love You by Jennifer Love Hewitt because it is kinda good. But watching one of my all time favorite heroines (Esmeralda) reduced to this nearly fucking killed me as a kid.
"What would you do with Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 to fix it?" Maybe not make it in the first place? I am convinced the sequel was made literally to give Quasi a love interest that works out because some people didn't like that he didn't end up with Esmerelda in the first movie. Which is dumb because that destroys the inner message that just because you are nice to someone, they may not fall in love with you, and sometimes doing something good for the sake of being good is its own reward.
Oh God, the memories... I remember having just watched the first film, and saw this, and... in my amazement from the previous film, I thought with excitement, "Gosh! I didn't know there was a sequel! Man, I wonder what they could possibl-" and then nope, nope, just whole lotsa nope. After all this time, my face still scrunches up like Lindsay's pug when I watch this... just... nngh...
I think if I were to somehow "fix" this movie is to add another character seemingly similar to Quasimodo. Say this new character also has some sort of physical flaw like Quasimodo that most people would shun her for. Quasimodo could form a crush based on this because he assumes that she and him must have a lot in common and he thinks he knows who she is. But she could also be working for the circus and turns out to be a villain, willing to betray people because people betrayed her for her looks. This is when you could have the other love interest, Madeline, stand out more because she is willing to be more open to Quasimodo despite his looks and is then revealed to have her own backstory where she felt alone and abandoned. I think this kind of story could reverse the message of the first movie. The first movie taught not to judge people based on different appearances, but this idea for the second movie could have a moral of not assuming you know someone just because they look like you. Maybe it is also pretty corny and cliche but that's how I might rewrite this movie. Thoughts? Criticisms? :)
Remember when the original Disney Hunchback story ended with Quasi not having a relationship but was given a better ending of public acceptance and friendship? This movie ruined that
I love that ending. Disney should do more endings like that.
Lance Clearman Quazi cared more about his freedom than love. He just got caught up in his feelings for a chick that didn't like him like that. He cared more for his freedom than getting the girl.
@Lance Clearman When it's done like...this horrible mess that is this movie? YES! IT IS!
Oh no! We taught the kids you *can* be happy *without* a girlfriend? The horror!!
In all seriousness, the first Disney Hunchback movie was a thing of beauty and one of the best movies I've ever seen. Sometimes they've really gotta leave well enough alone.
It didn't have to ruin it; it was just the bad quality. After all, just because the hero doesn't get the first girl he falls in love with doesn't mean he has to never get any girl, ever.
Because decorating bell's innards, which are being hit by a clapper, makes perfect sense.
It's a metaphor for how our inner beauty is eroded overtime by the duties of everyday life.
Willcraft I’m hoping you’re being sarcastic
@@WillcraftAnimations which is stupid cuz like Doug said, it's just a rehash metaphor of the 1st movie.
@@WillcraftAnimations a bell's purpose is to ring. If it can't do that, it's useless. Decorating it with gems doesn't help much, either.
@@SteveCrafts2k
So the moral of the story is: Inner beauty is useless and detrimental
My ex girlfriend had an obsession with the first Hunchback, Disney movies and the novel alike. So naturally I ended up finding this, thinking to myself "Oh, she might like this, I'm such a good boyfriend to show this to her." I watched it first, and... Yeah.
Nathan Deaton, You sir are evil.
Well at least you didn't actually show it to her.....right?
Good thing you watched it first
Now I see why she's your ex girlfriend.
I jest, btw.
Nathan Deaton sorry
This story could have worked if Sarousch was a master of witchcraft. Knowing that Frollo was killed, he is no longer afraid to show off his skills, but he passes it off as witchcraft.
Stephen Brown I've been saying that for how long! There are really good bones here, but a lot has to be redone.
Actually, I think he is a master of witchcraft. He makes three juggling balls disappear from his hands and into Zephyr's hand and makes the bell disappear with smoke and mirrors.
Or after The chaos in Paris an Inqussission from The vatican comes for investigation seeking vengance for The murder of a judge. Were The plot could had been more provning systematic religion halts progress. Or something idunno
@@void735 there's a simple word for that plot, and it's "crusade"
Poor Doug watching this shit for us
Emi Froy, but we are enjoying it
Of course
Emi Froy, I'm having a blast
Yeah, and for 100k views
fight the good fight Doug
This movie is seriously a fanfiction.
Isn't that an insult to fanfiction?
***** The fact that there's very good fan fiction out there. TV Tropes has a good list.
the only point of this movie was to give quasi a waifu....i mean a girlfriend
Yeah, Love Never Dies is one of the most disgusting examples of bad fanfiction stories that ever tried to get to passed off as canon. I'm sorry but when everyone gets the Ron the Death-Eater trope in order to make the Phantom (an obsessed stalker who strangles people) look like he deserves Christine it's utter shit.
And I love how obtuse it is with how it has Raoul painted as the bad person, yet Christine is the one who slept with Erik the night before their wedding and lied for 10 years him being the baby daddy. She's a huge bitch to do that and not only that but it undoes her conviction that she won't be used by a stalker when she turns her back on him in the end of the first one.
They try to make Erik look deserving of love yet still have him make threats to Christine about killing her son if she won't sing his milquetoast sappy love song (Love Never Dies is the most generic boring love ballad). Sorry but I'll stick to the original where the characters weren't 180 depictions of themselves.
Nightman221k Musical Hell did a solid job at covering the problems of "Love Never Dies".
Although between LND or Hunchback II, I'd pick LND because at least it has nice songs. I'm picking a poison, though.
Wait the people that animated Batman and Animaniacs also did this? WHAT THE?! After you brought that up I can defiantly see it in this movie...YIKES.
Side note extra points for mentioning the broadway version of Hunchback :D
It was actually Disney Animation Japan that did this.
ToucanLDM it has the animation style there except batman was drawn with black paper and made it more like a godfather cartoon
Hunchback never made it to Broadway.
_"The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2: Quasi Gets Laid"_
Not gonna up vote since I do like that comment...
This reminds a lot of s TV show quality or just terrible animation...
Quasi gets laid despite the fact his va has always been an openly gay man.
Should actually be Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 This time were auctally G
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I have to admit...I did laugh at this one scene:
*Captain Phoebus*: "How many times have I ever been wrong?"
(His horse starts counting on his hoof)
*Captain Phoebus*: "That was a rhetorical question!"
That's funny!! 😂😂
Imagine the staff at Disney talking about creating this movie in a meeting.
"So you know that one movie we made that was arguably the darkest movie that we've ever made, is critically acclaimed, and had an amazing story, as well as one of the creepiest and powerful villains we've ever had? Well, how about we take away the villain, and all of the dark moments we had in the first one, and made even more time with the gargoyles than the previous one. Wouldn't that make an excellent movie?"
*Animator raises their hand*
"Yes?"
"Actually, that sounds insanely awful, especially considering the great movie that came before it."
*"YOU'RE FIRED"*
"Ugh, this hurts..."
We're already off to a fantastic start.
Fans react to Disney movies: WE WANT A SEQUEL!!!!
Fans react to Disney sequels: UGH! THIS SUCKS!!!!
101 Dalmatians could've gotten a sequel that was based on the sequel to the novel.
since when did fans want sequels
@@aguycalledjamal Haha sorry, I don't know why I commented that, that was three years ago XD
This movie was released long before this trend became mainstream. Heck, I didn't even know there was a sequel until I saw a whole shelf with DVDs in the store nextdoor.
@CarloNassar that one wasn't to bad
Hunchback of Notre Dame is one of my favorite Disney films! Hunchback 2, however, is one of my LEAST favorites!
MegaSoulhero *Disney adaptations. I really hate to be a douchebag (i really do) but people must remember these are not Disney originals
MegaSoulhero In the words of the Nostalgia Chick, in Disney sequels how much You Hate a particular movie is in contrast how much You love the original
I love The Hunchback of Notre Dame for many of the same reasons. There's also its gorgeous animation and amazing soundtrack. Hellfire is one of the best Disney songs ever! The Hunchback of Notre Dame is actually my favourite of all the traditionally animated Disney films so I hate this insult to the original.
MegaSoulhero
Hunchback got into a lot of really deep symbolism and religious parallels and themes that really worked and really stuck out because it's stuff that no other film that I've heard of has really been able to tackle in the same way with subtlety and complexity to its characters. BUUUUTTT, at the same time, it's still a Disney film and it felt like they were still trying to shove stuff that just didn't fit into an otherwise great, dark, narrative purely for the sake of being able to market to kids. At the heart of the film was this great story but then, in the background, there's just this weird kids' film schlock that at least heavily felt like it was ordered from the executives instead of actual creative choices made by the writers behind the actual film. And those parts held it back.
So, instead of giving us the well-written darker narrative we should have gotten, what do we get? The story that the people behind the 'kids movie' parts of the original wanted to tell and, big surprise, it's as hokey and forced gargoyle 'jokes' and stuff were in the original. It seems obvious where this shitfest came from, they took EVERYTHING that didn't work in the original and decided to throw it into a blender to try and play it safe and it just ends up as a giant flaming mess instead of something that could have been actually interesting and touched on some good material.
Ahhh yes, my most hated Disney sequel
yeah this sequel was awful, though my most hated disney sequel is the little mermaid 2.
Mine is, hands down, Belle's Magical Kingdom
thewaterguy17, mine is Atlantis II
thewaterguy17 mine is Kronk's New Groove
Mine is Cinderella 3.
This movie killed Doug
mounir maged I thought that was food fight he did a few years ago as the critic XD
The Shambler f
A Drawing Guy Well there are other movies too lol
***** lol
Pray for Doug
and lets ignore the fact that bejeweling the inside of a bell is THE STUPIDEST IDEA EVER! Not only it will ruin the sound, but everytime the bell is struck, IT WILL SHATTER ALL THE JEWELS! Seriously, the isnide of a bell takes an INSANE amount of punishment, hence bells are made of solid steel, brass or copper.
I agree. I don’t think the filmmakers of Hunchback 2 knew how bells worked.
Dank memes of Notre Dame
The Hunchback of Notre Dank
Alcendence we are number one but every one is replaced by Hunchback of Notre Dame 2.
But every time the kid talks, it plays the entire Bee Movie but whenever they say bee, it plays Star Wars A New Hope but whenever a stormtrooper misses a target, it plays Lazy Town's Master of Disguise but whenever the word "disguise" is said, it plays the movie Willow but whenever Madmartigan or "peck" is said, it plays the entire live action Scooby-Doo movie.
For the love of Christ, DO NOT make this movie into a meme. The first one is fine, totally fair game, but this, the direct-to-DVD sequel? NEVER. We don't need another meme source as unbearably godawful as The Nutshack.
CatMaster90001 The first film has Frollo, which has become a small meme
I am dissapointed, Doug didn't destroy this movie as much as I wanted.
Same, though to be fair, this movie's already dead on arrival and the problems are self explanatory.
He gave it a solid thrashing, what more could you really wish for? A video of him performing a ritual sacrifice of the DVD? XD
+Rosa Viva yeah I want Doug to burn the DVD
Actually that sounds like something from a NC sketch. Then the devil can come out and tell him he doesn't want it. XD
+ Rosa Viva No… that shit is for The Never Ending Story 3, and comes with dead DVD necrophilia.
I think a better sequel for the Hunchback of Notre Dame II would be about Quasimodo's father. Cause we know the mother dies, but the father gets arrested and taken away at the beginning of the movie, we don't know what happens to him. Maybe he escaped and then he returns to reunite with Quasimodo. That would be interesting
Just like an "Aladdin 3"?
I always assumed, the guy that was found with his mother was a companion or friend, but not her lover. When looking at Quasi, mostly due to his complexion, features, and hair color, I always imaged that his father might have been a Frenchman. But the Gypsies could be any combination of races and features too, so there's no telling. Still, it would have been a lot more interesting to find out more about his father or his family and roots in general, than whatever tripe this movie was.
If that was the case then i would enjoy your version more then the one that tims did
Hmm. Maybe.
I would watch that
About a third of the way done....HELP!
Sorry man #veryunblessed
Channel Awesome please do Mickey... Three Musketeers! 👏 I promise it's good! My whole family watches it all the time in the car, and it never gets old!
Purple Poet11 I liked it to.
Channel Awesome I'm sorry you had to watch this
NOT VIOLENT ENOUGH!
I like how he at least took the time to mention TMS. I was expecting him to just rant on the animation like everyone else, but he actually talked about their own style, and that it just didn't belong in the film.
The animation studio angle was interesting. I didn't that they were attached to all those good products before Hunchback 2. One thing I dislike about a lot of these Disney sequels is how low the stakes are. Hunchback 1: Frollo wants to exterminate the Gypsies and use Esmeralda to satisfy his lust. Hunchback 2: some guy wants to steal a bell, how riveting.
This is the only Disney sequel that made me feel like watching the first film just to make me feel better.
I would say Pocahontas instead. Don’t care about historical accuracy, the sequel completely ruined the beautiful yet sad ending of the original movie.
"The real beauty is on the inside. ... *GET IT?!!"* -JelloApocalypse, 2017
"Imagine someone to love who loves you, imagine to look in her eyes and see, imagine how extraordinary it would be..."
Uh, I did that once, people made fun of me...
I get this and it makes me happy.
Victor Hugo rolled in his grave hearing about this sequel.
Fun fact: TMS also did Sonic X, Lupin the Third, and D.Gray Man (both the 2006 series and Hallow).
What's really interesting is with that statement about TMS doing better harsher emotion, two of their higher profile shows from this year (besides the D.Gray Man sequel) were a slice of life High School story and a feel good cute anime. Of course, difference of 20 years can change specialty a bit, but it is interesting to notice.
They also did an Anime called The lost canvas, was perfect for there skill set.
They're also owned by Sega.
its not like they want to do those feel good cute anime is just that thats the only thing the stupid otakus want
Detective Conan (Case Closed) too. It's pretty shocking that one of the biggest studios in anime actually made... this.
Mr enter covered it perfectly, and so did you doug
Mediawatcher I agree :)
I loved the first one, so this was a disgrace
Mediawatcher Nostalgia Chick did a good job with this too...Seriously, there was no need for a sequel.
Mediawatcher, I wished there was more furious anger
Mediawatcher fucking yeah
Thinking on Mr.Enter right now.
Rob Bob I saw his review, pretty good.
Rob Bob, me too.
His review was pretty fun. :)
Amazing Seen an Spanish Reviewer Here
And a problem I have with Zephyr: he should at least look mixed dammit!
FoxieRoxie365 The kid was annoying to begin with.
wiinterflowers He was an accident. 😂😂
Doesn't he have Esmeralda's eyes? People say he looks exactly like his father, but he doesn't have Phoebus's eyes.
I once read a comment that said that the animators probably designed Zephyr to look like a copy of Phoebus so people didn't start making theories about Frollo being the real father.
@@errolluck8347nah. Zephyr’s design was so lazy imo, considering all he was is a young Phoebus. Like come on, where’s his Romani features from his mother?? At least Melody looked like a mix between her mother and father
What to do for a notre-dame 2.... They did the obvious and trite "get him a girlfriend." Cuz they shallow. The other obvious answer that doesn't completely crap on the first one is "find his relatives." Like, learn more about his ma what died. Maybe bring in a little bit of the original book. Maybe we learn His dad was a frenchman accidentally outs his mom to frollo for being a romani which leads to her running with quasi in the beginning of the first movie. Her body is dumped with the other "criminal" bodies and his dad in his remorse starves to death hanging with mom. Quasi's search for his parents ends seeing his parent's skeletons together. All interwoven in wacky "search for my past" hijink plot.
Eh, much better but would still be very disappointing compared to the first film.
Betsy Lee holy sh*t that's dark!
That...actually sounds like it'd be rly good.
Another way to make it a little bit more logical: okay, he gets a girlfriend, but that girlfriend is blind and that's why she doesn't care about his ugliness at all. Plus, it would be a reference to Victor Hugo's "The man who laughs"
Haley Joel Osment?! I'm glad that he still went on to do more roles, especially voicing Sora to this day.
I just had the screenwriter for this movie, Jule Selbo, as my college professor. She's terrible. I'm trying to forget everything I've learned from her. She wouldn't come into office hours, she'd add things to my story that made no sense, and kept insisting I use her 11 step structure to write a story when my own structure was very similar, just to name a few things. This woman is unorganized and her book Genres for Screenwriters essentially explains superficially how each genre has reoccurring themes. You know the stuff you'd learn if you just watched movies. I'm so glad I'm out of her class Doug you have know idea. Seeing this video just helps reassure me that I'm not alone. Thanks.
How to fix this movie:
Step 1: *get rid of the gargoyles*
Step 2: *Hire better story writers*
Honestly, the only funny quote in the sequel is this: "Wait a minute! String of robberies begin the moment the circus comes to town? Coincidence? I don't think so!" It shows how stupid he is in the sequel.
Step 3: *Don’t make it a love story*
Step 4 hide the jewels were only quasi knows so it makes sense why they need him to show where they are and get him out of there so he can't tell anyone till it is too late
I think when people talk about this, it's usually as a representation of everything wrong with the Disney sequels: bad animation, dumb clichéd stories, continuing stories no one wanted to see continued...
There are a lot of things I hate about Hunchback II; the stupid script, bland and annoying characters, awful animation, the fucking Gargoyles and this film's mere existence, but the one thing I hate about it most is the new villain. In the original, we had a villain (Frollo) who was dark, cold, twisted, perverted, xenophobic, blasphemous, psychopathic and somewhat of a pyromaniac. Here, this guy (Sarousch) is just a petty thief with an unhealthy obsession with himself. No.........just no.
Lets face it, Frollo is what made the majority of the original Hunchback so awesome.
Personally I think it would have been much more compelling if they focused more on Sarousch tricking Madellaine into thinking the world is a dark cruel place. He does say that to her early on the film and I couldn't help but think they could've dove more into that. Like she could relate to Quasimodo in how they both were tricked into how the world works. Wouldn't that have been more interesting? That would have made so much more sense and would have made Quasimodo and Madeline's relationship stronger.
I laughed when Doug said, Ugh, this hurts. 0:13
lol XD
In case you’re wondering what Doug means by how he wished the movie ended the broadway style, practically everyone died in that version.
4:15 "it's Carl Johnson"
Me: CJ?? .......OOOOOOOOOAAHHHHHHHHH MY DAWG! WASSUP!!!?
ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS MAKE A GOOD SEQUEL, CJ!!!!
carsisbest ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ!
Why was this made?
ThinkingOfYou75 money
ThinkingOfYou75, we got to have money.
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@Lance Clearman haha HARDLY. Quick buck is more like it.
Quasimodo needed a girlfriend, so they phoned one in. :/
I still remember the trailer when Jennifer Love Hewitt herself said this movie was a sweet story and that you would want to watch it over and over again
Frollo should sing Hellfire to send this movie straight to where it belongs, in hell! LOL This movie is horrible, one of the worst Disney Sequels ever, anyone agree?
Me, holding this movie over a well: This is an unholy demon. I am sending it back to hell, where it belongs.
Me, holding this movie:
A Disney movie?! *gasp* A monster!
This movie is the equivalent of violently kicking Víctor Hugo in the crotch repeatedly
“Keep expecting Wacko Warner to come out and hit someone on the head with a mallet.” OK that was funny and also agreeable.
Jule Selbo wrote this... she's is a Film Professor... and I'm taking her Genre class.
Such an insult to one of the greatest Disney movies ever made.
I completely agree with you Critic. Of all the Disney sequels they have created, this one is definitely in the top 5 if I were doing a list of the absolute worst Disney sequels. Right up there with Cinderella 2, The Fox and the Hound 2, Lady and the Tramp 2 and the Beauty and the Beast sequels. The Hunchback of Notre Dame is probably one of Disney's darkest and most unique animated films. Why? Because it was willing to go places that the other films wouldn't in order to tell it's story. Judge Frollo was the very essence of evil. He is probably one of Disney's darkest villains in my book. He brainwashed Quasimodo into believing he was a monster, he tried to seduce Esmeralda and then burn Esmeralda alive when she refused him (not to mention burning all of Paris down trying to find her) and lets not forget the scene where the people literally throw Quasimodo on a wheel and torture him. The villain in this one is just a pompous, boring peacock who uses a pretty girl to get what he wants. The sequel is just watered down, painfully acted, and its message is supposed to be sweet and charming but it comes off as boring and cliched because they put no creativity into it, unlike in other Disney films. Granted, Disney has produced some sequels that have been good. The Rescuers Down Under even surpassed the original as a far superior film. This one, on the other hand, failed miserably.
CeltycSparrow I think Enchanted Christmas is fine but opinions
S Martin its OK, but its not nearly as epic as Beauty and the Beast
@@seanmartin355 beat me to it.
Forgot to add Pocahontas 2. That one was easily one of the worst
to Quote Futurama: Wouldnt a solid Gold Bell weigh hundreds of Tons and Sound crummy?
ROBOT DEVIL: Well it's mostly for show.
How to make a good Hunchback of Notre Dame 2: Have Frollo come back as a ghost and haunt everybody.
Or bring him back from Hell with an army of demons 😂😂😂
They got TMS to do this instead of Disney's TV Animation Japan? Weird.
You've made it through the abomination. It can only get better from here.
don't worry 101 Dalmatians 2 will be better
iHeartRyanStiles, are you sure?
I Really enjoy 101 Dalmatian 2, but i dont think the critic will enjoy consider his not a fan of the first one.
I don't know, I've only seen the first little bit of it, but hey surely it will be better than what he just reviewed, considering he has to do that and Stitch the Movie next
there's a 101 dalmatians 2?
i mean i think i saw a sequel called 102 dalmatians but i think it was live action..
102 dalmatians is the shitty live action movie, 101 dalmatians 2 is about patch in london
Going from a guy who wanted to burn Paris to the ground to some dude that wants to steal a bell is so unbelievably petty
a little nitpick, the bell would never function like a normal bell with all those jewels in it, so its pretty much a 6 ton paperweight
Good point lol! XD
Personally, I think this is the worst Disney sequel, at least out of the ones I've seen!
same here.
So you probably haven't seen the beauty and the beast ones
@Yoyo Mackoy my favourite is lion king 2. I legit liked it more than the first one. I also have a soft spot for lilo and stitch 2 and kronk's new groove
@@godot8694also Pocahontas 2. That one was sh*t
"I don't even know how to fix it. I mean what would you do with Hunchback of Notre Dame II"
That's easy, I would throw it into the fireplace
The villain looks like a damn high elf
He reminded me of the joker
Lol, you're right, ehm...the problem is that this guy is actually overweight and bald. What you see at the beginning is actually a stage appearance.
Aaah kill it with Fire....!
HELLFYAAAH
Somewhere, deep down in hell, Frollo is being tortured by being forced to watch The Hunchback of Notre Dame II.
Also, it's Quasimodo is one word LOL
I feel bad for the kids who enjoyed this film as a kid but sadly grew up, rewatched and appreciated the brilliance of the first one, and then rewatched this only to be entirely disappointed
Is it me, or was Doug surprisingly lenient towards this film?
No Frollo=instant garbage. Never mind any of the other problems with the movie.
I don’t know if I should be glad or mad that Tony Jay is nowhere in this film. Because I love him as Frollo, but I would see his character trashed in this crap sequel..
The first movie is a masterpiece in my eyes and is my favorite Disney adaptation ever. I absolutely refuse to acknowledge this movie's existence whenever possible. The pure fact that Disney made this happen frustrates me to the core. Thanks for giving this sequel a thorough thrashing.
TMS actually did not do the animation here. It was Disney Television Animation’s Japan-based sub-unit.
Damn, he's starting to feel physical pain,
The first line sums this movie up perfectly. "Ugh, this hurts".
Most valuable object in France is kept in a church with little to no security. Disney sequel logic at it's finest.
You can't have hunchback of Notredame without Frollo and he was the real villain of the story.
I remember seeing this for the first time when I was a little kid and even then I thought it was lame.
MrEnter and Lindsey did a great job reviewing this and Doug did as well...You guys deserve great present for watching this thing.
I broke the DVD and burned it
Good. Good for you.
the first movie is one of my favorite disney films of all time, so i was ecstatic when i saw that they made a sequel. i watched the first 3 minutes before bailing because of the animation.
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
Love is dead
Thanks, Hunchback of Notre Dame II!
Never before has the slogan: "I remember it so you don't have to" ever been so true.
One day I wish for Nostalgia Critic to do all of the American Tail movies
He's teased it on occasion and implied that he dislikes all but the first one but has never given his true thoughts on the sequels.
Fievel Goes West was good but flawed in my opinion. I find the direct-to-video ones mediocre, not as bad as they could have been but not really good either and surely not as good as the original.
Yeah, I get it, La Fidel is supposed to be a metaphor inner beauty, but one thing that I find kinda dumb about that bell is that jewels don't ring, so it would suppress the sound, wouldn't it?
i've been waiting for this!
Call me crazy. But i thought it was nice to give quasi a love interest. But i will agree the a sequel to this is most certainly unnecessary.
I don't mind him getting a girlfriend as much either, as long as the plot holes were fixed, the characters made more interesting, maybe make the girlfriend suicidal with back up reason and Quasimodo helping her, the villain being legitimately threatening (possibly abusive), develop the romance rather than do nothing with it, the story more thought provoking, and getting rid of the pointless bell and especially the gargoyles.
I'm marginally surprised you didn't cover *Cinderella III: A Twist in Time* after doing *Cinderella II: Dreams Come True*
Vercalos al'Corlin He's reviewing the movies in order based on their release date. He'll reach Cinderella III eventually.
Chilly Ah. I forgot Aladdin started off the sequels.
I hope he reviews that one. It was the best sequel in my opinion. It made Cinderella pretty determined and sneaky and I love that. Plus the animation was great and the twisted use of the magic was pretty surprising to see come from Disney (the warped carriage ride with Lucifer driving was a really creepy twist on the happy carriage scene in the original).
1:22 is some of the most disturbing animation I've ever seen. He totally decapitates her with his hand.
The one thing I liked about this movie was the song "I'm Gonna Love You". I honestly liked the song.
I LOVED this movie when I was a kid. I would argue to no end with my friends that this was a good movie. Then I actually saw the first one and now I can't sit through the full movie without getting bored.
I remember renting this when I was younger. I remember the plot, but not how I felt about it. I can be certain I didn't think it was anywhere close to the original. The original is one of my favorite movies.
"Get It? GET IT!?"
You know what would have been a better sequel? Frollo taking the form of a firedemon, escaping hell and taking an army of demons with him to get Esmeralda, him burning city over city, until all of France is covered in fire and ashes.
That would be kinda awesome, I dunno.
I honestly didn't know about the existence of this sequel until just a couple days ago and decided to watch this video to see if I should watch it
I'm guessing its the same idea about Pocahontas as a lot of people bitched about the historical accuracy then boom PocahontasxJohn Rolfe. With Hunchback a lot of people were sad Quasi didn't get the girl then boom generic love interest for Quasi. Although I have to admit as much as I haaaaated this movie I still listen to I'm Gonna Love You by Jennifer Love Hewitt because it is kinda good. But watching one of my all time favorite heroines (Esmeralda) reduced to this nearly fucking killed me as a kid.
The one Disney sequel I did not see. I am thankful and feel sorry for Doug.
"What would you do with Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 to fix it?"
Maybe not make it in the first place? I am convinced the sequel was made literally to give Quasi a love interest that works out because some people didn't like that he didn't end up with Esmerelda in the first movie. Which is dumb because that destroys the inner message that just because you are nice to someone, they may not fall in love with you, and sometimes doing something good for the sake of being good is its own reward.
I think my favorite thing about this movie was how in reality that bell would barely be able to ring with all that junk inside of it.
How to fix Hunchback 2: bury it and never speak of it again.
Oh God, the memories... I remember having just watched the first film, and saw this, and... in my amazement from the previous film, I thought with excitement, "Gosh! I didn't know there was a sequel! Man, I wonder what they could possibl-" and then nope, nope, just whole lotsa nope.
After all this time, my face still scrunches up like Lindsay's pug when I watch this... just... nngh...
Screw the Bee Movie script. The Hunchback of Notre dam 2 script is where is the real meme here.
Would be fun to see them do a faithful adaptation of the book. They'll scar so many innocent souls for life
I think if I were to somehow "fix" this movie is to add another character seemingly similar to Quasimodo. Say this new character also has some sort of physical flaw like Quasimodo that most people would shun her for. Quasimodo could form a crush based on this because he assumes that she and him must have a lot in common and he thinks he knows who she is. But she could also be working for the circus and turns out to be a villain, willing to betray people because people betrayed her for her looks. This is when you could have the other love interest, Madeline, stand out more because she is willing to be more open to Quasimodo despite his looks and is then revealed to have her own backstory where she felt alone and abandoned. I think this kind of story could reverse the message of the first movie. The first movie taught not to judge people based on different appearances, but this idea for the second movie could have a moral of not assuming you know someone just because they look like you.
Maybe it is also pretty corny and cliche but that's how I might rewrite this movie. Thoughts? Criticisms? :)
Hmm, that's a good idea, actually...
I think this movie is a case of "be careful what you wish for" to those who got up in arms Quasimodo didn't get the girl in the original
Wouldn't a bell that's beautiful on the inside be damaged by the ringing part?
Kathryn Vincent They didn’t think that through. 😂😂😂😂😂
And it would ruin the sound quality