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Disney's 100 year anniversary turned out to be one of their biggest blunders in a year of big blunders. What was it about the film that didn't connect with so many? Nostalgia Critic takes a look at Wish.
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Wish is a 2023 American animated musical fantasy film produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. It was directed by Chris Buck and Fawn Veerasunthorn (in her feature directorial debut) from a screenplay by Jennifer Lee and Allison Moore. The art style combines computer animation with the look of traditional animation. The film stars the voices of Ariana DeBose, Chris Pine, Alan Tudyk, Angelique Cabral, Victor Garber, Natasha Rothwell, Jennifer Kumiyama, Harvey Guillén, Evan Peters, Ramy Youssef, and Jon Rudnitsky. The story focuses on a 17-year-old girl named Asha (DeBose) in the Kingdom of Rosas, who makes a passionate plea to the stars in a moment of need, leading her to meet a living, magic star which has fallen from the sky, and together they face up to the kingdom's dubious ruler, Magnifico (Pine).
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This was your 100 year anniversary movie, Disney? What did you think of Wish?
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VERY dissapointing
I wish this movie never existed
Review Megamind please.
I honestly think it’s hilarious that the animated short “once upon a studio” serves as a better love letter to Disney over the last 100 years than the multi billion dollar animated film that was made for theaters.
That's honestly what I think of more other than this one being... complicated for me.
Agreed
Agreed
Once upon a studio was so good!! I almost cried
Tell me about it
My biggest problem with the Film is that the "Villain" isn't really that bad.
He says some Wishes are to vague to be granted, and some aren't meant to be granted. And he's right. He creates a Utopia where everyone seems to live without worry of food or clothing or anything.
Yeah I used to think that the worst thing he did was make the people forget their wished but then I remembered that the people knew about that and still willingly gave it up so yeah he really didn't do anything wrong
And suddenly he turns into a megalomaniac who literally crushes wishes and finds it hilarious.
I think that rewrite came from removing the evil queen part. You know his wife and have her be believable to stick with him. Insted of being hypnotised or be under control to make Magnifico a bigger jerk so she can resist him...
But by doing that... You gotta have Magnifico do something believable and make him sympathic to make others understand his plight.
But by doing that... his heel turn makes no sense so we gotta add this evil book that changes him truely evil, but.. OOPS we ran out of animation time and editing time and--
It starts with rewriting one or two things, but now you gotta make everything else fit and then... you run out of time.
Like even the cute star was ORIGINALLY suppose to turn into a starboy and talk and inspire others to make wishes.
And what's even funnier and sadder is that the wish of the grandfather DID become a mob and defeat him by inspiring others to use that motivation to.. break the magic.
Sure he turned evil.. but.. Magnifico in the end WAS RIGHT!
I know they went with the whole: "You deny this wish for being vague well here is it's true power." But since the movie sucks... and doesn't do anything right. This also is lost.
What I love about this movie's discourse is how everyone is like: "But Magnifico was right, I get the allegories, but in practice he takes away the wish and uses it as motivation to do good in his kingdom. And the people do it WILLINGLY"
If he was a devil in disguise sure.. then it would be bad, cause you know: "To get your wish granted do not take the easy route from a smiling man."
But yea.. I can harp on how every element and decission makes this movie boring. It's over explaining and under explaining and avoiding things, but wanting to say things and aaaaagh. It never tries to lean into anything.. it's doing a tightrope walk but insted of putting it really high, its at GROUND LEVEL and STILL HAS ITS SAFETY NET OPEN!
What could also be a message for the time we live in.
That man people and Generations had it too good for so long, they don't know how got they have it.
That it is not normal to have good clothing or food for every day. Many people have so much and so few problems, that they search for some, and then we get something like we have nowadays in the USA and EU. Because living in a house with a full Refrigerator and wardrobe is nothing special anymore.
It reminds me of an economist joke. An economist and his friend are walking down the street and see a street violinist performing.
Friend: You know I always wanted to play the violin.
Economist: No you didn’t.
1. Economists are wet blankets.
2. You could have learned to play the violin but you chose other things based on your preferences. You revealed preference is what matters.
In a way the towns people are like people who gave up on their dreams to peruse alternatives…. which is just reality and fine if it is voluntary.
*Asha:* "You have to grant everyone's wish!"
*Magnifico:* "Okay...What if someone wished for the end of the World?"
*Asha:* "W...Why would someone wish for that?"
*Magnifico:* "Oh, you sweet, summer child."
Well, someone actually could actually wish rule the world as the next Hitler, so Magnifico would have a good point (he was more “hero” material than Asha).
Remember what Prismo told Jake about granting wishes?
Exactly..Not all wishes should be granted. What if someone’s wish was so dangerous and straight up illegal. Like..is this girl for real..She would allow crime to take place.
Except Asha never said that. People keep to say Asha wanted for every wish being magically fulfilled, when all what she wanted was for Magnifico to return the wishes he didn't mean to fulfill in opposite to let the people void of their essence. She wanted for him not judging by himself what wish was good and what wish was bad according his paranoid suppositions, but to give them a chance to try to fulfill them by themselves without magic. Heck, they explicitly said Asha's friend become lethargic after to give his wish to Magnifico. And all the theories about destroy the world and being Hitler are just pretentious and petty considering the argument began on a wish that is nothing like that.
@@FrancescaAkira89People gave up their wishes WILLINGLY. It’s not like he’s stealing them, took them by force or hid the fact that he took them for good. It’s the same as telling bookmaker he has to give people their money back after they lost their bets, so they can spend it on something actually useful.
In the book version of the movie, there's a powerful line from Magnifico. It's when he captures Star and asks something along the lines of ''Where were you when I needed you? What makes the girl so special?''
Wow that is deep, and is a legit question where was the star when he’s family and home are destroyed by thieves?!
@@JarodFarrant Movie makers didn't think of it, that's why it's not in the movie. And it would make Magnifico be more right than he already was.
The novelization also has him point out to the crowd that he would have been content to be loved and trusted by his people, and just protect the wishes he didn't grant for the rest of his and their lives (simply because they made him feel happy), BUT because Asha challenged him, and he got desperate and used the Forbidden Book, he learned he could just TAKE happiness and anything else he wanted from others by doing such things as destroying wishes. So, as he puts it, she ruined their lives by driving him to extremes out of her own petulant nature.
Dang. That honestly hits.
I mean, he grew up in a war torn country and in poverty, which is the reason he made sure people never would go hungry and didn’t tax them.
The wish would have been great then, but it comes to a very peaceful place, to a kid who just didn’t like not getting her way
@@roristevens2810 You see Asha I’d prefer to be loved, I would. But if you take that away from me, then well, being feared is a-one okie doke by me.
Between Asha overthrowing a king for not giving away more free stuff than he already did, and Ant Man being shamed by his daughter for retiring after he helped take down Thanos and save the freaking world, Disney has been advocating some really weird morals lately, haven't they?
'Ant Man being shamed by his daughter for retiring after he helped take down Thanos and save the freaking world'
Hey, no need to lie now... Ant Man didn't retire, he starts the movie saying 'I will be there if the Avengers need me. In the mean time, I want to focus on helping inspire people and reconnecting with my daughter who's been recasted as an ungreatfull asshole'.
I 100% believe Wish was written by AI
Don't forget Raya and the Last Dragon where the moral is to always trust people, even when they stab you in the back and it leads to the destruction of the world as you know it. Just trust people who clearly have their finger on the trigger of a crossbow, and maybe at the 11th hour they'll come around.
*And it's all by design too.* They're literally advocating for asking for more than you already have. They're teaching us to be ungrateful little bastards in order to keep feeding them the greed that they have been cultivating for years on end now. They're brainwashing us into becoming pro-capitalist, where greed is the true ruler of society, not the President.
Don't forget Wanda Vision. If you hold an entire town hostage, forcing an entire population to live out your fantasy, and they can only do anything as long as you permit it. They should be a bit more understanding if you give up your imaginary kids you had for a week to set them free from you.
The fact that the fandom consists of everybody just rewriting the movie is crazy to me.
Huh?
@@dylansharp8471 The fandom is built not around the movie, but ONLY the concept ideas and building upon it. Literally no one is passionate about the movie itself, only about what it could have been.
@@DeathKitta
"Literally no one is passionate about the movie itself"
Doubt it.
@@dylansharp8471I think they're right. Wish is considered the worst Disney animated feature since Chicken Little. No one is passionate about Wish because the movie itself lacks passion. It feels like a bunch of tropes put into an AI script generator.
@@vetarlittorf1807Man, what do you know?~ It's incredible that both those 2 movies had good concepts but then got scrapped for worse version to "make it safe", one for money/biases and other for risks.
The saddest part is, this is going to be Disney’s last foreseeable original animated film for the time being. All the movies they have lined up for later on are all sequels to existing films. It’s almost like they’ve given up.
They are gonna fail
We have returned to the dark age of Disney. Only now, it goes to Disney Plus instead of DVD
There's Elio and an unknown, but presumably original, Pixar film on the docket. And, if you were running an animation studio, wouldn't you back off original films for a bit if you have so few non-sequel ideas that THIS is what you scrape off your shoe?
@@Volvagia1927 I don't think it's the idea of no ideas. Creatives are willing to do something major and different. However, businessmen, who are not that good at business or creativity, interfere and ruin what could be amazing
@@Volvagia1927 Those are Pixar films, though - they seem to be only studio they currently have any faith in for creating original content.
Given how the main studio’s sequels have generally been received, I dunno…
“I’m a star!”
“Look out world here I are!”
Whoever wrote those lyrics needs to be fired immediately.
Yes! Fired and black listed.
And SET ON fire!
They am bad song writers.
PLEASE I'm a STAAAAAR
Me think that lyricwriters for Hazbin Hotel be better
This review doesn't actually make fun of the movie's silliest plot point. Early on, the queen warns the king never to touch the evil book lest it turn him evil. Then later when the good guys need to read it, she whips out some magical hand cream that allows them to safely touch the thing. You could have mentioned that to your husband! LOL
I know I keep mentioning this, but it would have been SO MUCH better if the queen was the real villain. If Disney had gone through with the idea of Magnifico and Amaya being a villain couple than this probably would have been a better movie! Seriously, imagine how great of a twist would have it been if Amaya was the true villain! I think it would have been cool to reveal that she was the great evil that destroyed Magnifico's home and slowly manipulated him to open up the book to become corrupted cause maybe for some reason she lost the ability to open the book and that's why she needs Magnifico to open it instead. I mean through out the whole movie her personality felt too nice and boring to me so I was expecting her to be the twist villain. Many plot holes could have been fixed with her as the villain like the roof having an opening. She could have installed that herself as part of the spell she needed Magnifico to use the wishes on. If this movie was supposed to be dedicated to the 100 years of Disney than Amaya would have been the perfect villain to honor that cause she would honor the modern twist villains but also honor the truly evil ones cause she would had never loved her husband! She would have just wanted power! The fact that I can rewrite just ONE character and have that fix so much of this movies problems, just shows how lazy the writing really was!
Oh, shit, and here I thought the evil book was the only half-way clever part of the movie. Like, it's an obvious metaphor for substance abuse - how Magnifico knows he mustn't touch it, and keeps it in a safe... which is also a huge glass display in the middle of his living room. Yeah, buddy, you're not fooling anyone. And how his wife manages to talk him out of using it, but the moment he's under a minimal amount of stress, he zooms straight back to it, and we understand that he's DESPERATELY craving for ANY excuse to use it...
Turns out, I simply forgot about the special cream that totally allows you to read the evil book responsibly!
@@Alknix Sorry I ruined it for you. FWIW, you can imagine the little scene with the hand lotion (or whatever) isn't in the movie and the metaphor for substance abuse still works. Honestly, I think the only reason they came up with that scene was that they were worried viewers would feel bad about Magnifico being trapped in a mirror forever at the end, what with his implied tragic backstory and everything, so they wanted the characters to learn that he had become unredeemable after using the forbidden magic.
@@theadaptationstationmaster Nah, don't worry. Truth cannot ruin, it only enhances!
My headcanon is that 1st and 2nd halves of the movie were written by different people. 1st one wanted to have this nuanced, morally gray and tragically flawed character, and then half-way through they fired him and hired some hack who just wrote "And then he turns into the fucking Jailer from WoW for no reason, idk lol!"
Oh, my gosh, I went to the bathroom for that part, I'm glad I didn't see it.
Disney: We promise to give you an old school villain, just like the ones you used to love.
Also Disney: Gives “villain” reasonable backstory, logical reason to run the kingdom, and then force him to be evil when the protagonist acts more selfish than he does.
Classic Disney 😒
This is the main reason why you died at your 100th Anniversary Disney.
And you brought and did that to yourself.
Well… after having 2 phases of going through twist villains and then no villains, it’s at least some sort of progress. Not much, but at least we’re SLOWLY starting to get back to the traditional Disney villains.
@@hunterolaughlin Rather they stick with having no villains than whatever the hell King Magnifico was.
Except not that last part. The protagonist was asking reasonable questions for why he doesn't give back the "will never grant with magic" wishes to their owners, and he acted like a spiteful, entitled ass about it.
@@hunterolaughlin at least encanto is still better than wish, and wish is a little better than the mid tier garbage that was strange world but not by much
I really liked the idea you had of the king becoming the villain then having a redemption arc. Villains who turn good is one of my favourite tropes of all time as it adds a complexity to the morality of the character and shows them considering multiple sides.
Hey, king.
Yo, Strider!
Love you @Phantomstrider!
Love you @Phantomstrider
Aw thanks for the nice comments 😀 Best wishes!
If you think about it, the first Kingdom Hearts is a better celebration of Disney than the movie Disney themselves made. The main character is legitimately a good combo of several iconic Disney protagonists, the worlds are from iconic films, and even the villain is more like an actual Disney villain, even with all his anime mumbojumbo.
Yes 🙌 your so right dude ✊🏻
Holy crap, that’s what they should’ve done as the thing Critic was mentioning about a bunch of characters from different movies. Get with Square again and just make a KH movie
I just hope when KH4 comes out we'll still have Disney planets to explore, like Zootopia, Moana, Finding Nemo, and/or Wall-E. Maybe even Brother Bear.
@@dreamguardian8320 as opposed to, Warner Bros? Or you mean like just Disney animated type world
Kingdom Hearts is a literal perfect Disney world. It throws you in as. Protagonist into your favourite Disney films reinact your favourite parts of the films.
You know you screwed up bad with your magic wishing star movie when your biggest competitor does basically the same thing but with a spanish cat being chased by a sadistic baker and an emo wolf, and completely steamrolls you with infinitely better creativity, charm, and music.
It's just as screwed when an indie- born show about demons is a better musical than the animated musical celebrating 100 years of history...But I'm just speaking my mind here.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 I mean, technically speaking hard shit is better than diarrhea, but not by a large margin
@@Naharu.
What?
Jack Horner is such a fun parody of greedy, vile, shallow corporate Disney that he is what SHOULD have been the big bad of a Disney100 celebration movie.
Honestly, I know that Puss in Boots 2 came out first but it perfectly fits the parody angle of Disney when compared to wish. They have as opposite of messages as you can get, in Puss in Boots 2 it’s you don’t need to wish upon a star you’ve already got what you’re looking for, while in Wish it’s EVERYONE should have their wish granted. That’s just really funny to me!!!
I am so angry that professional writers wrote "Watch out world, here I are" and were like, okay
I'm glad I watched the movie dubbed in german because they fixed a lot of these awkward lyrics.
I still can’t get over that dumbass lyric.
Or the fact that the lyrics were written by someone who wrote songs for Justin Bieber.
I guess they’re just animals who don’t speak quite right
@@BahuschBahusch Same, its one of the few movies I prefer in German. Usually the english version sounds better, but these lyrics are horrendous.
ikr?? that frgn line threw me off so abruptly lmao
3:43 How can a DreamWorks sequel 11 years in the making, based on a Shrek spinoff character, have a better Wish movie than Disney's 100-year anniversary?
What's even crazier is that looking at the deleted scenes, concept and then The Last Wish itself. It felt like they were genuinely inspired by DreamWorks and wanted to create a movie as great as they did. Like Jack Horner turning giant, the race to the Star, developing romance, a great catchy song (At All Costs) different takes on how wishes work, an actual funny talking animal sidekick.
But after all the changes, it doesn't feel like anything....
@@RascalEntertainments I subscribe to the theory of Disney committing plagiarism against their rival company
Not just better. Completely steamrolled imo.
The fact they thought the seven dwarves were a diverse group of normal height people pretty much says what went wrong right there
Well I wouldn't say all of them are normal height, lol
They’re supposed to be a reference, not a copy and paste.
@@Dennis-nc3vw and it's a very poor reference. I actually had to be told that's who they were
An underwhelming film to celebrate 100 years of Disney
A disney movie off wish is called wish how funny
Should’ve been 2D all the way.
I wished this movie never existed
I remember hearing something about thoughts for a Kingdom Hearts movie instead with Sora visiting all the classic movies. its own Spiderverse with the characters hopping world to world across dimensions. but due to legal reasons with SquareEnix, they decided not to.
That would have been one hundred times better than what we got. one idea I would have loved to have seen is the art style of the movie changing to whatever world Sora entered. classic hand drawn 2D when Sora enters a world like Alice in Wonderland or Cinderella, then 3D when he enters Wreck-It-Ralph and Frozen. it would have really shown Disney's animation evolution over the generations. there's so many reasons this would have been better than WISH.
I think that the Once Upon a Studio was a much better milestone celebration to Disney.
This movie clearly deserves a FanScription episode:
*"What If We Make "WISH" Really Good?".*
The original version with the evil couple and starboy.
@@Nio744that or Magnifico starts as the good guy, but becomes the bad guy, then the good guy again.
Woah buddy, let's not expect the impossible here. It should be "What if We Make WISH Okay?"
theres one problem.... EVERYONE IN UA-cam is already doing that
The worst part is that it is actually easy! Make Magnifico initially look like bad guy, when Asha gain power of creature capable of granting wishes. She try throw rebellion against king and then everything goes shit. In the end she need grow up and understand why granting every with is actually horrible idea and that star is actually evil demon. Against who Magnifico was standing for. Could work as meta commentary about fandom, which is greedy and actually ruin the art. But no!
It is very strange to see a Disney movie where the "bad guy" is obviously not a bad guy and the "good guy" is actually the bad guy.
Kinda reminds me of Wreck it Ralph in a way
Ralph: the "bad guy" who's not a bad guy at heart
King Candy: a "good guy" who's truly a bad guy
7:26 either Magnifico granted extra wishes thus breaking his own concept of monthly ceremony and lowering the whole movie’s stakes altogether, because he can grant as many wishes as he likes that day of the month-
or Rosas is such a magical place, a year there lasts 425 days.
The math ain’t mathing
I was wondering about this! And remembered Asha’s friend saying that the king also always grants the wishes of his apprentice’s family as well. So I guess he gets a new apprentice every year maybe?
@@sereiatiger the real question here is what even is the point of having apprentices when you wrote it in the *law* that you’re the only one authorized to use magic? :D , so they can go home, and do nothing with that knowledge? Is it for the wish lotto entirely, for the paycheck, for the glory? We’ll never know
Finding a ‘successor’ for a greying Chris Pine would’ve made much more sense tbh
I think he can grant as many wishes as he wants, he just doesn't. Which is why our alleged protagonist gets mad at him.
The most generic, underwhelming way to celebrate 100 years of Disney. The worst part is, they cut out so many great ideas from the final version.(the star being humanoid and Asha's love interest, "At All Costs" being a love song between the two, Magnifico and the Queen being an evil couple, etc.) This could've been so much better.
I keep seeing people say the deleted concepts would have been better. Why?
The original concepts were so much better! Unfortunately Disney execs can’t let the creative teams get anything done and we get deprived of anything new :/
@@ConnorCreed3 Because they would have been.
It feels like Disney is allergic to unique in this day and age.
But maybe they were too scared to take risks, which is why it turned out too safe.
What gets me is that when they look through Magnifico's magic book, they try to see if there's a way to "save him" from the dark magic, they specifically say that once it's unleashed, he can't be saved from it. This implies that his wife still thinks he's a good person deep down and wants to help him, but then at the end when he's trapped in the mirror, she acts like he was always evil and decides he must be punished. So, which is it, is he supposed to be a classic Disney Villain who is just evil and loves it, or is he a tragic character who was corrupted? Either this was written by AI or two different people wrote the first and last halves of the film.
I'm going with the latter, as this film seems to have had too many cooks (executives) in the kitchen.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528Too Many Cooks!
Also. True loves kiss breaks every curse according to disney lore. I guess the queen didnt love him for real since she didnt even attempt to try
Why didn't the Queen simply wish for her husband to not be evil anymore
@@mceky89 Apparently that's not how wishing works in Rosas; Star is said to not explicitly grant wishes straightaway but helps people achieve them. Wishing is powerful enough en masse to banish Magnifico but apparently it can't purify him.
Though as others have pointed out, how do we know the evil book isn't lying?
One of the parts that confuses me the most, when Asha questions Magnifico, is the fact that part of her job seems to consist precisely of explaining the rules of the city to newcomers.
But at that point she didn't know he was choosy about which wishes to grant, and more specifically that he wasn't going to grant HER relative's wish. She apparently had no reason to think about things like that...which makes her look rather self-centered.
@@roristevens2810 You have a good point; The curious thing for me is that just with the explanation she provides at the beginning of the film, it is vastly clear that the vast majority of the city's inhabitants would never see their wishes fulfilled, regardless of the system that Magnifico used to choose which ones were appropriate and which ones. No.
@@juanprada4410 Oh yeah, the math doesn't add up and there's no indication that anyone else in the land has considered this either. Or they HAVE but don't mind. Asha's opening narration does assume that the wishes of particularly good people are the ones granted, but even then, given we're never shown legit bad wishes...
We had a long fan discussion on “How would you have given this movie an actual PLOT?”, and the main consensus was “Weren’t you expecting Star to actually do something in the movie?”
Y’know, like go around uncontrollably granting everyone’s wishes in town at once, causing chaos that Asha and the Scooby gang have to stop, and once everyone sees what their wishes are, they learn to work together, and even Mags develops an actual understanding personality?
My idea for a simple fix for the Magnifico arc:
Make his wish-granting magic come from another wishing star that he absorbed. It was indiscriminately granting wishes and was thus the source of the kingdom's past calamity that he stopped.
Other changes follow sensibly from that: The calamity is why he's so careful about which wishes he grants: he's seen what can happen otherwise (have the absorbed star give him no direct control over how a wish truly manifests once granted). He keeps the wishes instead of returning them (he still sees the value people place in them, so he does still protect them) in order to stop people from wishing on stars and potentially summoning another one to earth.
He used the dark magic book to absorb the star the first time. He resisted its corrupting influence because his motives were pure and his mind was clear. This time, fear and paranoia about a new star, and his anger at his citizens' entitlement gave the corruption an inroad, turning him dark (a villain that needs saving, not just defeating).
I think that would have really helped the worldbuilding, added depth to the character, and tuned up the message to be about not relying on magic or miraculous wishes to achieve your dreams (not a fan of the "just keep wishing" message of the actual movie).
Gotta say this is definitely top three of the spins on the og concept I've seen, I adore this
That sound a lot better than what we got in the actual movie.
I know it's just so crazy that he wasn't a redeemable villain...the set up was right there. They just forced it to be something else for flimsy reasons. I beleive him as a redeemable villian more than the volcano god in Moana tbh.
That "just keep wishing" line annoyed me like the Jem movie annoyed Jem cartoon fans
@@iateyursandwiches He was more redeemable than Abuela from Encanto, that woman exploded her whole family, she didn't even care if her son was still alive, she blamed her granddaughter about the lost and confidence from the family, she wanted to force her other granddauther to get marriage with a man that she didn't like him in order to get more grandsons with gifts, she favored her over the other ones, for not mention that Abuela demanding Isabela that she must be perfect. And despite all of these things, Abuela get a redemption arc after all. So Disney tells you that "being careful with the wishes is bad ? But year of abuse, gaslighting and exploitation are not so badly things?
The fact that this was supposed to celebrate 100 years of Disney is what makes it especially incredibly insulting.
Insulting?
Seriously, I think _Enchanted_ is the love letter to Disney that's actually a good story.
@@dylansharp8471 They thought we would just swallow this crap and praise them. Yeah thats insulting.
Yup. I don't really mind too much seing Disney make lackluster or straight up bad movies in general. I had a great time with Disney, and it is a bit sad to see it descent, but I can let go and move on.
But when they make something that's advertised as a celebration of 100 years of Disney, and they not only spit out something of this quality, but then also have it practically promote ideals that I frankly consider toxic while villainizing a fairly reasonable take, I just can't help but be insulted.
Tl;dr: I don't care if they drag the Disney name through the mud going forward, but don't smear mud on it when looking back.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 I agree! Enchanted is underrated! Haven't seen the sequel but I've heard it pales in comparison to the original
I hate the fact that for the past... I don't know, decade or two, we had people complain about how past Disney movies say wishing on a star promotes the idea of laziness and complacency. And Princess and the Frog tackled that idea by showcasing that it's not wrong to wish and believe WHILE working hard. Sometimes life isn't fair, but you can still find value in life. She still gets her restaurant in the end, but they've been rather good at showing the lesson about living life being happy with or without dreams coming true before that part.
But this movie had a bunch of people not even trying to hone their skills after so many years and just relied on Magnifico for everything? And once Asha became the official wish granter, suddenly it's okay and nobody has to try to gain skills or seek knowledge for themselves because she can just grant them without question?
Wish had this GREAT idea about a heroine wanting to extend a helping hand in a fantastical journey. This could've been a wonderful story about a girl's desire to give back to the community with love and compassion in a magical way with a villain showing the dark side of that life. (Granted, I still prefer the OG concept before the script-scrap but I'm trying to say that's what they could've done as well)
But everything that she did came from entitlement and narrow-minded thinking without any consequence of what granting every wish could bring and THAT would've been a good lesson for her to learn but nope. She gets everything and never gets called into question. THE END.
(You guys have no *idea* how much I wanted an origin story about a fairy godmother and DIsney took that idea and spat it out like a chewed up wadded spit ball)
"If you really want something, don't wish for it to happen, make it happen!"
Jay, ninja of lightning, 2016.
I never saw the movie, but did they ever go over the message of "Stop wishing for things and go out and make your dream come true"?
That would make the most sense to me for a plot like this, where the villain has this set up as a way to keep his subjects complacent
Side note, would have been a perfect way to introduce kingdom hearts as a concept. Like these are all stories that people wished into existence
I was also expecting them to have that message. However, the movie states that when they give up their wishes, they completely forget them, thus they can't even work on them without Magnifico randomly choosing to grant them since they forgot what they gave him in the first place.
If the sequel is Just straight up Kingdom Hearts the movie I’ll forgive them
The plot would actually make more sense and be more well developed then this
Actually they kind of did.
Instead they made Kingdom FARTS!
A kingdom hearts movie would be crazy
"I granted 14 wishes last year, come on that's a high percent!"
Yes. It is, actually, that sounds freaking excessive, and you SHOULD be granting less.
I think one wish per month would be a pretty good system.
Depends on the wish, really. For all we know, one of those wishes was to have a dog that knows not to crap on the couch. Or to wake their son up from a coma and nothing else.
@@larezabyrd6509You also have wishes like every human grow taste buds within the butt.
@OceWhat12345 True, but thankfully, Magnifico would never grant that Wish.
Maybe… maybe some were.. make a wish kids..
The critic keep flirting with the real issue with the whole wishing system, but never really gets to the heart of it, which is that Magnifico is RIGHT. The writers had to go out of their way to create a literally perfect world where no one has any bad wishes, and the "worst" wish they could show was "wanting to inspire the next generation" where they have to SHOW VISUALLY that they literally mean him playing the guitar, just to make SURE that no one could interpret Magnifico as being right.
Also, just as a side note, the people of Rosas have to give up their wishes when they turn 18, so her grandpa decided prior to being 18 that his greatest wish in life is "to inspire the next generation"?? What literal child thinks that?
I feel like they realized he had a point and went to make him an asshole so nobody would be on his side. And Asha really comes across as a reactionary and unintentionally power hungry
The plot trying to make Magnifico the villain is dumb, but he is younger than the grandpa. He would've begun granting wishes by the time Asha's grandpa was older than 18. It's also their choice to give up their wish.
@@emilybrinkerhoff6825Ehhh, it’s a bit dubious there. Everyone over 18 is legally obligated to give their wish to Magnifico if they want to live in Rosas.
Precisely!
@@DuelaDent52 I'm trying to remember, is there a line where they say it's obligatory? All I remember hearing is that they "get" to give their wish. I've only watched it twice though so I might've missed something.
The most telling bull I have seen, ever, is the after-credits bit having the old guy play a classical guitar arrangement of "when you wish upon a star," thanking the literal star for granting his wish.
It continues unobtrusively under what would otherwise be a terribly bombastic logo.
It's real sweet of a note to end on.
So it's great that instead of the title, the subtitles on Disney Plus call it "[Disney Theme Plays]." I have never before seen something more honestly expose itself as being a product.
What are you talking about?
@@dylansharp8471 Disney Plus thinks "When You Wish Upon A Star" is called "Disney Theme Song" because it's corporate branding to them
@@dylansharp8471The subtitles don’t call it “When You Wish Upon A Star”, they just call it “Disney Theme”.
This also applies to in-TV closed captioning, not just D+ subtitles (I checked).
"A hero who becomes the villain who becomes the hero again." Thank you for that idea, Nostalgia Critic, that would be a brilliant thing to watch and truly something that hasn't been done before by Disney - at least not in that form. The closest they got was Kenai from Brother Bear, though that film was far more dedicated to the process of his redemption than the process of his corruption. Nowadays Disney seems to be stuck on the "generational conflict" trope and is refusing to move on, so here are some more ideas - of course all of these have been done before, but I would love to see Disney do them in new ways:
1. The main character is a morally grey trickster whose actions change the people around him/her, but not him/herself.
2. The main character is a coward who learns to show courage.
3. The main character is a stiff official/bureaucrat who learns to loosen up.
4. The main character is an ideologue who has to sacrifice or question their ideology.
5. The main character is a bully who learns to become kind.
6. The main character is a fearful and misanthropic loner who learns to connect with people.
7. Two main characters, one incredibly proud and the other with low self-esteem, learn from each other.
8. The main character loves and idolises a person at first sight, learns their love interest is not who they thought they were, then develops a far healthier kind of love for them (anti-Frozen).
9. The main character relies on others too much and learns to do things for themselves.
10. The main character is a tired warrior who feels responsible to solve all the world's problems, and eventually learns that they deserve peace and quiet for themselves even if the world will never be perfect.
emperors new groove?
@@blacktainfalcon7097 Ohhh, interesting! I haven't seen that one yet but I plan to!
Didn’t Dreamworks kind of do something like that with Megamind?
Main character starts out wanting to do good so he can be accepted, but realizes he’s better off being bad and embraces it, but then later in the film he becomes the good guy?
@@TheDragonman104 I don’t think that really counts. I think they meant more of like a Shakespearean tragedy or Walter White style story. A story where the the main character starts out as a nice, heroic good guy but gets progressively more and more evil to the point where by the end they’ve turned into a full on villain. Kinda similar to what happened with Hal in Megamind, except done with the main protagonist.
@@misterslick2693 They literally said, “Who becomes the hero again”. There was never any mention of having the character die like in a Shakespeare tragedy.
9:12 rule 1: you cannot make someone fall in love with you.
Rule 2: you cannot kill anyone.
Rule 3: you cannot bring someone back from the dead. It's not a pretty picture. AND I DON'T LIKE DOING IT!
So Genie, you can bring people back from the dead but you just don’t liking doing it, huh? 😏
@@hunterolaughlin Shrenron from Dragon ball can do that
And no wishing for more wishes
@@hunterolaughlin more like he can but it not turned out so well he brought back the person to life the body on the other hand was a walking corpse.
@Depth217 Because that would be redundant. Can you say redundant?
Fun Fact: This movie was originally Wish was going to be a hand drawn animated feature, but wasn’t because they felt there were some limitations to it and decided to try and blend both 2D and 3d animation. But you know what’s ironic? The Boy and the heron came out the same year. Not only it was more successful critically and financially, but it was also a major award winner. All while sticking to their formula while still prioritizing the story and it was hand drawn. Something this movie failed to do.
90's Disney films had CGI integrated in them, but I guess doing what they did in 90's and 2000's animated films is too out of reach now.
Disney could easily tower over the profits in live action remakes and CGI films if they released another fully 2D classic style animated film and they know it. What merch is still wildly successful DECADES after release?? Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty- these films from the 90s, 60s, 30s are still being cherished after 100 years yet Disney still actively snubs what made them a household name. They not only ignore what people are begging for, but double if not triple down on repeated failures then insist it was successful or that its just crybabies on the internet being "haters".
Disney's 2D movies helped make them a household name and push the art of animation to new lengths than before with each release from their first film Snow White and the seven dwarfs in 1937 to the movies of the 2000's like Treasure planet & Lilo and Stitch yet nowadays it's like a full length 2D movie is box office posion to them it's not like 3D movies can't be good rather they can be very good like Moana & Zootopia yet it's 2D animaion that started everything for them and to not cherish that it's sad to see. A least the short films espeslply Once upon a studio offer us the thing we like the most from them.
It's because that in the late 90's, 2D animators unionized... So now when you hire 2D animators in Hollywood, you actually have to treat them decently and give them good payment and vacation time and stuff.
3D animators, however, are free game! You can absolutely exploit those, give them inhumane working hours, change things last minute they have to re-animate under a crunch, under pay them and then just fire them with no precaution the moment the production is over and done with, just bringing in a new team on the never ending conveyor belt, cause we don't lack young passionate people that desperately want to be animators for Disney.... Disney is sure to kill their passion real quick though! And replace them after their souls has been crushed! Over and done with.
@@brideofcthulhu347
Ah, but hand drawn animators are unionized, can't have that!
18:01 I think this idea would've made a much better movie. Have Magnifico go insane or become disillusioned with the people he rules over after he witnesses a ton of evil or bad hearted dreams. Asha's role would then to remind Magnifico of the goodness in people, while also realizing herself that not everyone around her is perfect. This would culminate in the climax, with Asha, having taken Magnifico's position for a short while, grants a bunch of "bad" wishes and makes the world worse, becomes severely depressed, makes a bad wish herself, and Magnifico, having realizing that not everything is as bad as it seems, makes a good wish and returns things to normal.
If you want Magnifico to be just completely evil, just keep him insane after he witnesses all the bad wishes, or maybe he sees that his highschool crush wished to be with someone else instead of him and he got salty. I don't know. Either of these is more interesting and entertaining.
There was a Chris Pine reference in Pinocchio, and here, he was casted in Disney's 100th anniversary movie. Someone at Disney really likes Chris Pine
This movie was basically the “Krabbyland” of Disney Movies
Or that terrible Willy Wonka experience. Which is kind of like the opening skit now that I think about it.
Edit: never mind, they actually reference that. Shot my shot too early again.
@@AlwaysAskingDobojite The movie was basically "we have a disney movie at home"
Except that at least people got _something_ decent out of Krabbyland. Here, it's just nothing but disgusting lies and the disappointment of being betrayed by your designated heroes.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 I mean between watching Wish vs being entertained for hours by SpongeBob followed by a disappointing clown, but also with the best burgers in town?
Yeah, easy call.
@@nevaehhamilton3493
What the hell are you talking about?
1. Make asha the princess daughter of magifico
2. Make the star more human like in the concept art and build a romance between asha and star
3. Hire broadway writers not pop music writers
4. Magnifico says "he got these geenes from outer space" so have it turn out he's keeping a star he wished on and bleeding it for his magic
It’s ironic that Julia Michaels was the songwriter when previously in Ralph Breaks the Internet, an extremely sanitized and lame corporate produce as well, she did the “cool” pop cover of the Slaughter Race song for the end credits that was another corporate product.
(Okay I admit I DID like her pop cover but point still stands)
Something I think would've been an interesting idea is if the Star was actually evil and had been manipulating Asha all along. It could be a thing where it was the person who created the evil book and was banished to the stars. Magnifico's reason for taking the wishes would essentially be to prevent the star from returning until Asha chose to make her wish.
Another great idea better then this bland insult of Walt’s legacy.
That would tie it in to Magnifico's backstory too, maybe it was the leader or granted the wish of the "greedy thieves" that took everything from him.
Yeah the whole lack of bad wishes is literally something that would have broken the story. We are supposed to believe EVERYONE living in this kingdom is a GOOD person. Yeah no. One of the characters literally lusts after the king who is a married man. There is your bad wish there.
I just realized ... the people of Rosas are literally the people of Whoville in the 2000's Grinch. "I want golf clubs. I want a diamond. I want a pony, so I can ride it twice, get bored and sell it to make glue."
In the case of that particular citizen, either Magnifico should let them down gently or find a way to grant their wish on a technicality like he did with the woman who wanted to be a great seamstress.
The Mary Poppins reference accidentally suggests that child marriage is legal in Rosas - who would wish for a nanny for their kids when they were 18? (The only loophole is that that person might have been a recent immigrant, and thus considerably older.)
@@roristevens2810 Not everyone makes wishes when they are 18. When a person immigrates into Rosas they get to make a wish. Although, that is an example of a selfish/immoral wish. It would mean either poofing someone into existence to serve as a slave for this woman or brainwashing and existing person into slavery.
@@mr.histor1996 Yeah, I noted that they could have been an older immigrant, but offhand since there's so much talk about giving wishes up at 18, that was the first thing that came to my mind. But you also make a great point that granting it would be allowing slavery to exist in the land. And the next wish crushed, for true love...oh boy. There was a reason that was one of the 3 things the Genie wouldn't do! Some have also noted elsewhere that the guy hugging the child is a VERY vague wish: Is the child dead and he wants him revived? Estranged? Does he even have a child at all?
@@roristevens2810 Yeah, there are a lot of seemingly innocent wishes that don't seem so innocent once you consider what granting them actually entails. Sabino's wish is a great example. He didn't wish to be a great musician, he wished to inspire the next generation i.e. mass mind control.
“Instead of reminding us you’re the company that made ‘Snow White,’ how about you ACT like you’re the company that made ‘Snow White.’”
Basically everything we’ve been screaming at Disney for the past five years. But they’re too busy sniffing Bob Iger’s farts to give a damn.
I feel like I've been saying it since they made the 2006 Disney logo, stopped making 2D hand-drawn animated movies, & aired Hannah Montana & the other bad live-action teen drama sitcoms.
Bullshit.
Iger or Chapek? I'm curious when this project started production when either one was in charge honestly.
@@dylansharp8471 What's bull crap?
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 Technically started probably around 2019 or 2020, under Chapek. Disney has late 2026 releases already on the release schedule now, but it's in the writing stage way before then.
Once upon the studio was definitely the better celebration gift for disney’s 100th year anniversary.
I completely agree.
@@ericasutton3147it’s sad yet hilarious that the short was a better celebration than the full theatrical movie that cost millions of dollars to make
I 100% agree. This just feels so soulless and devoid of passion.
@@millerkarageanes1562agreed. I legit almost cried when I watched once upon a studio
That concept should have been the 100th Anniversary film. My guess was it originally was but the cost to hand draw everything would have been far to much.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't both Brave and Aladdin examples of what can go wrong when wishes are too vague? Aladdin uses it to take down Jafar and it's Brave's whole plot.
Did Disney just forget that bit? How is Magnifico unreasonable here?
The problem isn’t that Magnifico doesn’t grant the wishes, it’s that people don’t know what they’re missing and deserve to be able to pursue their wishes under their own power which they can’t do because they literally don’t remember it.
@@DuelaDent52 but he told them that's how it works just write it down you morons wait does noone tell there friends or family what there gonna wish for
"In another draft, the queen was supposed to be evil too."
A FEMALE villain? In 2024? From Disney?
Haha, that's funny 😂
The star was originally supposed to be a love interest for Asha, but apparently, we can't have romance in a Disney movie anymore either. It's not like nearly all of the company's best films are all romance stories or anything.
Disney really DID forget how to Disney, didn’t it.
12:37 To be fair, the sloth scene from Zootopia is genuinely funny.
It works for kids because the sloths being slow, Judy’s aggravation, and Nick enjoying every moment of it are hilarious. It also works for adults because the sloth scene is a satire of the actual DMV and how notoriously slow and inefficient they are. And Judy and Nick meeting with Flash is how a lot of people feel when they’re dealing with the DMV. All in all, it’s what I consider one of the funniest scenes in any Disney movie.
The scene from Wish with the goat and the chickens on the other hand? That’s clearly just pandering to 5-year olds. In fact, you could probably describe the entire movie that way. That’s a shame because I really wanted this movie to be good.
I agree. It is pretty funny. But making fun of the DMV is a bit overplayed these days and the joke is almost always centered around how frustratingly slow it is. I mean, a very similar joke was made by Looney Tunes ages ago, but with turtles.
Plus, Judy is a much better role model than Asha!
@@vetarlittorf1807 It's okay to just play the hits sometimes. No need to try and innovate every single time.
I don't think even five-year-olds would be entertained by pointless dancing chickens.
Gotta admire that you also describe how many layers there are to the scene and why it works.
Judy is in a hurry because she is on a real-time crunge. This has been established, she only has 24 hours, that's why she is in such a hurry.
Nick is the hostage of Judy in this moment, he doesn't even wanna be there, so to see his hostage taker being so frustrated is awesome for him. And he is being kind of a jerk, but it is also justified why he is a jerk, so we don't hate him for it.
The sloth is just there to do his job, and so is oblivious to the dynamic going on in front of him and is actually being very pleasant, which makes it so hard for Judy because the sloth isn't doing anything wrong, and she doesn't wanna be a jerk, we know she's a nice person who cares A LOT about decency and being nice to others.
Nick uses this to his full advantage. Because again... From his perspective at this moment, he is her hostage and there against his will, so he's actively working against her to rebel.
There are so many layers here, so many elements that lead up to this scene and this situation that make it work so well.
Having random dancing chickens for no reason at all... Doesn't work... Sometimes you need to put work in to earn the scene and earn the joke. The sloth scene was a culmination of so many things established before making the scene work.
I wish that they'd had the Queen be an antagonist, alongside her husband, as was originally planned. It would have been interesting to see a villainous couple, and her being good wasn't explored much.
Wasn’t the star also supposed to be Asha’s love interest, too?
There were so many missed opportunities!
I feel like Old-School Pixar would've told a story of a once-noble king who gradually became corrupted after decades of having to weigh and sort people's assorted wishes based on their potential outcomes, and Asha learning that not all wishes could or should be granted *without* becoming cynical and corrupt like the king.
Someone on youtube has been uploading leaked concept storyboards of the previous draft and the king and queen come off as so much more entertaining and animated. We were robbed of a killer villain couple.
@@AJ-xc4qe yes.
@@AJ-xc4qeI think I like the idea of the queen being evil more than the idea of the star being the love interest
magnifico could've been the focus of the movie. a hero that feels like he's being overburdened with all those wishes and responsibility and decides to horde all the wishes without granting them
If you want to see a cool reimagining of Wish, Lydia the Bard covers This Wish as a Villain song where Asha snaps after her mother's wish is broken. She steals the book of dark magic and tries to overthrow Magnifico. In this version he's not a villain but a fallen hero. He had good intentions to protect his people but took things too far. When he sees Asha with the evil book he realizes how he's taken things too far and hurt people. But his redemption comes too late. It's a fantastic cover of the song that goes so hard and has great visuals. Definitely worth checking out, it's the best thing to come out of this movie
*Once Upon a Studio* is the true gift from Disney's 100th anniversary.
Wish was an afterthought.
Agreed!
100%
You hit the nail right on the head
They really should have made Once Upon a Studio a full-length movie to celebrate the anniversary.
Maybe the plot could be about an intern at Disney who aspires to be an animator but struggles with a block and fear of rejection as Disney's most iconic characters help to inspire him to reach for the stars by teaching him everything Walt stood for like innovation, ambition, creativity, hard work etc.
@@vetarlittorf1807
That’s perfect.
The movie would have worked better if disney understood that the protagonists are not always the heroes. Asha beign an entitled brat determined to usurp magnifico and the latter redeming her would haveade quite the story!
The Fairly OddParents in School’s Out The Musical more or less got something like that where the protagonist Timmy Turner is wrong and the antagonist Flappy Bob is differently wrong so they both have to learn a lesson
Asha really does come off as a reactionary and unintentionally power hungry
"That's too interesting, let's just make the most boring movie for the 100th year" ~ Disney Execs
@@matityaloran9157 How far we've fallen from the days of nuance. I mean Timmy was wrong by going to one extreme and Flappy Bob was wrong going to the other extreme.
@@muigokublack6487 Yep
''Why are now questioning this?''
That part annoyed me SO MUCH. Like, there was no twist on how Magnifico was; at best, him using the book as a last resort. But the problem Asha (and the others) had from the start of the film was him not granting every wish. Asha even says ''so you're saying most of this wishes AREN'T going to be granted?''. They knew that wishes are granted once a month, heck they even sing about it. They knew that they couldn't remember them, honestly the darkest part of all of this. They were fine with it a day ago until the script told them to. It felt so unnatural.
Not remembering the wish isn't really a dark part. It's kind of a win-win. You either get what you want or you stop wanting what you can't have. Imagine if any Disney villain had gone to Magnifico with their wishes. Is someone like Scar worse off for forgetting his wish to be king? Would Cruella be worse off if she forgot her wish to skin puppies? Is the Evil Queen worse off because she no longer wants to be the fairest of them all? Is Jafar worse off for no longer wanting ultimate power? Magnifico removes people's selfishness with their consent. It's a great system.
He even waits for people to turn 18 before making their wishes. If he were evil and just wanted to hoard wishes to control people, it would be a lot easier to do it while they were children, but he makes them wait 18 years to make their wishes. Everyone involved in the transaction is a fully informed, consenting adult.
Actually, this movie makes sense.
At the Emperor point of view.
Asha wanted a position of power by taking down a not perfect but functional system and showing the maintainer of said system as a not good leader. And all while saying was for the real good of the people! And showing as the hero!!
Asha is Palpatine's true reincarnation! A TRUE VILLAIN ALL THE WAY! GO, DISNEY!
And it took you until just now for you to realize that we were rooting for the true villain the whole time?
20:30 - 20:40 - to be fair, 'all animals are equal but some are more equal than others' sums up the reality of the Disney ethos pretty well.
That’s the “utopian metropolis” the sheep is going to get if Asha grants him his wish. He was pretty annoying.
I always explained that the reason Goofy is anthro and Pluto is a "regular" dog is because their franchise takes place in a post Animal Farm universe lol
The worst part about this is the missed potential.
Have Magnifico represent totally, cynical control, thinking only about pragmatism. Not evil, but making a world where things work, but with no lustre, no joy, just efficiency.
Then have the wishing Star be a being pure chaos, any whim and desire granted, which can be fun, sure, but not all people wish for good things, or too many of these wishes conflict and start ripping reality apart as the world succumbs to total chaos.
You could have a nice message, that you need to dream to enjoy life, but you also can’t live off whimsy alone, you need to compromise between controlled cynicism and chaotic whimsy if you want to actual attain long-standing joy in your life.
That could have been a cool movie! It’s a unique and important message to give to kids, that life is hard but you always need to care for it to matter. But instead we just got nothing.
"You could have a nice message, that you need to dream to enjoy life, but you also can’t live off whimsy alone, you need to compromise between controlled cynicism and chaotic whimsy if you want to actual attain long-standing joy in your life."... so like Disneys Princess and the Frog? Where our two protagonists bounce off each other and one learns to unwind once in a while and the other learns to take on responsibilities?
So, the Lego movie, with Lord Business's city vs Cloud cuckoo land?
WB did that 10 years ago and people are still complaining why that movie did not get a best animated movie Oscar nomination
Disney is soooo creatively dead
I agree with what you say it’s one of many examples of how this film could’ve been way better, PS Life doesn’t have to be yard, life can be easier if we rethought how we lived or lives, and we TAX one percent of the world way more that would make our lives a lot easier.
@@jordanread5829 that’s legit one of my favourite films.
"These references better be building to something that's worth it...they're not."
Anything released under the Disney umbrella the last 5 fives.
Bullshit.
4:53
Asha: If only we could understand you.
NC: Uhhh, can I wish for that not to happen?
Magnifico holding NC's wish: *aku_says_no.mp4*
Magnifico was right. some are too vague and some can lead to disaster, so Asha being upset that some need to be ungranted makes no sense- he even tells her the reasons why!
But that's not the problem she has with him. The problem she has is that he arbitrarily makes that decision while misleading the population into thinking they all have a chance, and that if he thinks a wish is ungrantable he should just give them back because he thinks that people are *incapable* of granting their own wishes
@@garulia17 So by that logic, lottery tickets are evil?
@@TheGodlikeDragon That doesn't even make sense, but you do you
@@garulia17 Critic just used the same example. These people gives their wishes and only once a month a wish is granted. It makes sense that there are some wishes that are not granted, considering that they say more people join the city. Not to mention how many more people are born. It is literally said in the story in the beginning of the movie, that making them forget the wish is to make sure they can still live happily in the kingdom even with the knowledge their wish was never granted. They give their wish for a chance to have it granted, a lottery ticket is bought with a chance to win. It goes by the same logic, and not to mention that he only took the wish away and not their ability to make a wish. Hell, now that I think about it. How do you know that there are not multiple wishes made by the same person floating in his tower?
@@garulia171 it's his kingdom and his magic
He didn't want to be a king at first , he just build a home for himself that other people started arriving and asking him to live there too
Ash: grant my wish to help my family member to become a
Great musician
Magnifico: no because it can be a threat
Asha: you are a villain and I’m going to dethrone you
And ironically that wish.. caused the villian to fail...
How does wishing to be a great musician a threat ? That seems like an excuse to NOT grant the wish as the whole vagueness is a lazy reason as Shrenron while doesnt grant every thing wish explains better like cant bring the dead back to life if it's a nature death then murder
@@nicholassims9837
That was not the wish!
He did not seek to become a great musician, he wanted his music to have profound effect on people, ergo inspire!
That is literaly a form of mind control a very dangerous one if it lacked control which would have been the case.
@@Raximus3000 real mind control is the forcing Love being a good singer is not going to cause anyone to lash out as he isnt a siren , also the fact that Magincfio didnt even bother to help in a different way like give Asha grandfather singing lessons doesn't put him in a good light. As what's wrong with wishing someone happy ?
Grandpa wanted to be an inspiring street musician. King said he could inspire the people to rise up against him… but at the time he’s not given any reason for the people to rise up against him.
"This world has shareholders?"
To be fair, Mulan has the lyrics that talk about cutting gym class.
I feel like a human saying a mild anachronism for the sake of humor isn’t as egregious as a chicken making a claim about the state of the universe
It's been a long time since Wish came out, but it still blows my mind - HOW and most importantly WHY they hired some amateurs with no experience in writing songs for musicals to write a musical and hoped it would work?! Dave Metzger has experience in writing music, and you can tell pretty easily because the music is fine, but talking about the lyrics - Disney can afford to hire literally anyone, so why did they choose Julia Michaels out of all the legendary songwriters who have ever worked with Disney?! For example, when talking about iconic Disney scores and songs, the first names that are coming to mind are Alan Menken, Howard Ashman and Stephen Schwartz! And maybe Lin Manuel Miranda as a newcomer to this list. RIP Howard Ashman, but others on this list are alive and well judging by the fact that Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz have returned to work on some of the Disney remakes. I will never be able to understand such a choice of songwriter, especially in a situation when good lyrics could improve this film significantly.
Yeah I'm kind of blown away by how poor quality the lyrics are, along with some of the actual rhythmic beats.
"Throw caution to every warning sign."
"Watch out world, here I are."
"I let you live here for free and I don't even charge you rent."
"That's a lie, lie, lie, lie."
The whole thing feels like the first, initial rough draft that was rushed out and they had no time to polish it and make it better unlike practically every musical they made between Snow White and Encanto where it's obvious those movies went through multiple drafts before they had something worthy of sharing with the public. I'd expect something like this from Illumination, NOT Disney.
@@colbystearns5238 And you just mentioned the top of the iceberg... Every single song has at least a few moments of weird lyrics! There is not one song with decent lyrics!!! And we are talking about Disney, which always had a certain level of music quality, if not setting new records of music quality!
Why?! How is this even possible to fall so low from being at the very top?! 🤯
The people of this kingdom are so gullible. They’re actually better off just letting him take their wishes. Idiots with power are dangerous.
Dummies with power are scarier than smart people with power because you can guess what a smart person can do with it but a dumb person you can't predict or guess anything because they'll do anything just because they can do it no matter the cause.
Weaponized incompetence is indistinguishable from malice
Oh, how I WISH they actually made the Star boy, like they originally planned, and did a love story between him and Asha. I honestly start to miss Disney’s animated love stories… That one could have been great, and given the plot line of Asha kinda becoming future fairy godmother more depth, as FG and the star in the sky both help other Disney lovers.
God your so right. Disney apparently thought Star would’ve been to much like Genie from Aladdin but what’s wrong with that? Maui was a good shapeshifter and worked out great!
@@zachbuerger4016 tbh that would've been interesting!!
I like Star as a mute celestial being of pure joy. The shapeshifter thing they had planned could've also worked really well but personally I'm just glad they didn't go with the Starboy + Romance route because "Starboy" would've actually taken the shape of Asha's grandfather in younger, which I am deeply uncomfortable with. At All Costs is also my favorite song on the soundtrack and I feel like if it was a love song it would not really amount to much. It would just be a long "I love you". These songs can work like Finally I See The Light in Tangled but only in the right context, as in that example Rapunzel's and Eugene's journey started out transactional but turned into a romance, with the song being the confession, whereas Star and Asha would've started out with aligning goals. I think for that song being from both the protagonist's and antagonist's point of view, singing about the same thing with the same words but with opposing viewpoints is more interesting.
Star Boy could use the Red Stone of Asha, place it upon the mask in Magic Mirror and wear that to become a vampire who can survive the Sun's light: in other words, reject his humanity and become the ultimate life form!
WRYYYYYYYYY!
[ENGLISH SUBTITLES] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - One Cartoonist's Dream 【ver VILLAINS】(Disney Medley)
@@BahuschBahusch Why are you saying Starboy WOULD have been her grandfather but younger?
That's not a necessity.
Disney screwed up SO BADLY with this film that watching Cinemasins and Channel Awesome is the preferred way to see the film
Wish is the worst-reviewed Disney animated film since Chicken Little, but it’s bad in a different way than Chicken Little was bad. It’s just another Disney animated musical
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At least Chicken Little had the one good scene where the main character was trying to get to school set to One Little Slip by Barehaked Ladies. That’s ONE GOOD thing.
I feel like even though films like Home on the Range and Chicken Little were bad, at least they were "something" as Doug put it, creative risks that ultimately didn't pay off. Wish just feels like a soulless parody of a Disney movie, the least original "original" movie I've ever seen that is quite frankly nothing without the movies that inspired its creation.
I actually liked Chicken Little when I first saw it. Granted, I was sick at home with a 102.7 degree fever. But, I still thought the alien stuff was cool.
The fact that many people liked Leo, an Adam Sandler movie more than a Disney film for it's 100th anniversary I might add, that shows you how far Disney has fallen
Leo’s pretty good, actually
I remember people doing videos on comparing those two and as shocking as it is to say, there is no competition: Leo, a Netflix movie, is better than a multi-million dollar Disney movie. That is so sad I actually want to cry.
There was also someone comparing Wish to Hazbin Hotel regarding Animated Musicals
Also don't forget that Nimona a movie that Disney tried to cancel got an Oscar nomination while Disney got nothing
@@johnnysparklehazbin hotel has much better music
Damn Doug you wrote a better script with just one idea .
I love when Doug is able to craft a better story than the movie itself
A bit of a "to Hell and back" sort of story, Magnifico could've been like the Anakin Skywalker of Disney Animation if they went with Doug's idea.
Anakin Skywalker of Disney Animation.
I would like that, TBH. Also Hayden Christensen was fantastic as Anakin in ROTS.
Where is it?
@@thechuchofthecentury3853 22:51-23:13
I honestly feel bad for the voice actors, especially Chris Pine. I can tell he had FUN doing a villain and did his best with this...they all did. But it's sad that the script and songs were really...yeah...
19:07 this reminds me of The Flash’s CGI cameos and even WB tried with those!
What's sad that there was a leak concept of what the movie was going to be about. It was about a star becoming human the Magnifico and his wife were going to be the main villains.
5:37 I love how Critic threw in a mention to The Thief and the Cobbler
There is a rumor I've heard from the animators who worked on Wish (no confirmation so take this with a grain of salt). The creative team really wanted to do something special with the Disney 100. One idea was to take advantage of Disney's previous movies like Peter Pan, Lion King, and Beauty and Beast. But apparently, it was shot down because of Marvel's Multi-verse saga. Another was that Management and HR took a bigger role in the creative department. So any risk or excitement was removed and they went with something too safe and boring.
What pisses me the most is how they turned the king into the antagonist so quickly, there was no motive nor meaning to do that because they showed that he is actually a good king and has been taking care of his people, if anything, Asha should have been the antagonist because she decided to throw the whole system out the window just because she didn't like it even though it was clearly explained to her why !
At the end of it, she just installed the whole system she rebelled against only now she is the one in charge of it, so basically she became what she rebelled against !
The fact that the film was ORIGINALLY planned to be in 2D but was then changed at the last minute because the Head of Animation said the style was "too limited" is infuriating...
*Japan and anime enters the chat*
Laughs in hell 😂
"Too limited" more like "we don't know how to draw 2D anymore"
And then they lost the oscars for a 2D animated movie, the irony
@@Naharu. RIGHT?! 🤣😭
@@Naharu.
What 2D animated movie?
"I let you live here for free, and I don't even charge you rent." They couldn't think of better lyrics for their villain song, though Chris Pine is giving it his all.
I really feel like Chris was trying in this movie and and it kinda hurts me to tear into his character.
I'm gonna be honest, he was my favorite part of the film.
They could’ve easily changed it to “I let you live here for free, when I could always charge you rent” and be done with it
"Acting nice when she not nice"
@@Depth217 And if they carried that kind of mentality through the early Magnifico appearances, we could actually have hints to his narcissistic nature, since he's going 'i'm so nice when I could be mean' instead of 'i'm so nice just because'
I found the dialogue and lyrics so clunky that I was starting to think George Lucas could write something more natural.
15:24 ♪ "No one lusts like Frollo! Or mistrusts like Frollo..." ♫ it works perfectly, they should've put it in the Hunchback. It just matches the character complexity so well! XD
For me, the movie needed one or two more years of development. Magnifico should have turned to evil out of fear, because of something from his backstory that stemmed from an evil or reckless wish. Him being afraid of his paradise being destroyed would be far more realistic and understandable than his ego being bruised. The song lyrics definitely needed work. And the colors needed to contrast and be more vibrant, rather than looking muddy and dull. A few other tweaks, and this could have been a decent movie.
Yesss, he would’ve been a much better villain if they leaned into what was very obvious severe anxiety and not random and uncalled for narcissism???
The great irony is that this movie is a perfect encapsulation of how Disney is acting now. Magnifico is only granting “the safe wishes” and pushing down anything that could upset the status quo. Meanwhile Disney is only doing “the safe shows/movies” (Marvel, Star Wars) and throwing out absolute bangers like The Owl House early (there are probably more examples but I don’t remember)
What does safesl wish mean as does he only grant wishes to make someone a sandwich,?
@@nicholassims9837 I mean that sounds like the safest thing I can imagine so probably.
@@ijbdawg9 what if the wishes were small task like chores as everyone became too lazy to do any work ?
@@nicholassims9837 I mean, l guess you could, but if you only get _one_ wish to be fulfilled, do you really want to waste it on menial chores?
@@Naharu. some people are just that lazy
That book intro felt a lot more like a reference to Shrek than the Disney classics to me
16:25
That scream is the best I've ever heard out of Doug.
You know what would have made Magnifico a tad more interesting? Have it so he knows how dangerous wishes can be if granted to anyone, maybe have him suffer from a form of PTSD if someone tries to have him grant everyone's wishes. Perhaps out of desperation and out of his queen convincing him, he opens the book, knowing it feasts on his darker emotions. Maybe even have Chernobog be the being behind the evil book.
I had the idea that Chernobog was his brother, who tried to use a wishing star to wish for all the power like Jack Horner wanted from Puss in Boots before being sealed away.
Disney's "Once Apon a Studio" was the only thing to somewhat Redeem Disney.........sort of.
The short 10 minutes of a short for almosted all of Disney movies that acknowledges movies like Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Chicken Little and even Home On The Range is better than this hour and a half snooze fest.
@@flipcamgamer I'll still give Disney credit are at least trying to produce something good
The fact once upon a studio was relegated to a short on streaming service while Wish got the full cinematic treatment just screams modern Disney 😂
On Disney plus, you can watch this in Japanese. It's equally bad, but at least it doesn't have the line, "something more for us than this," which confused both me and my sister when we watched it. I don't accept it as cannon to the English language.
16:25 that delivery made me hard laugh! 😂
I can't remember the last time he yelled like that. 😅
@G2Quiznos025 Probably can't hit those higher pitches like he used to.
A heard a little “BAT CREDIT CARD” in that rage 😂
I know that everyone points to Once Upon a Studio as the true crown jewel of the Disney 100 celebration, but I also want to point out one other thing Disney made that I feel deserves more attention: Wondrous Journeys, a new fireworks show from Disneyland that debuted for the 100th celebration.
Much like Once Upon a Studio, it’s a celebration of Disney animation, including a reference to ALL 62 Walt Disney Animation Studios films (INCLUDING Wish). No Pixar. No Marvel. No Star Wars. No live-action. Just a beautiful tribute to the studio that’s basically the heart of Disney. And I do mean ALL 62 films. No matter how big or small the movie is, there is at least ONE small reference to it in the show.
And much like Once Upon a Studio, it blows Wish out of the water as a celebration of Disney. I highly suggest people look it up, it’s one of my favorite productions Disney has ever put on in the theme parks.
Harmonious was also fire AF, the theme park influencer fandom is smoking something to have not liked that.
18:14 And that's what makes Asha...
one of the BEST Disney villains of all time!
Let’s also not forget. Wish lost to a film with a radioactive giant lizard that only cost about 15 million to make.
Doug summed it up pretty good at the end. The ultimate shame of "Wish" isnt' that it's bad; It's that it's bland and empty. Same can be said for most of the live action remakes too; all of them leave zero impact on you. This shows just how far Disney has sunk because they used to make movies where you would leave FEELING something, like you had an experience. Something to impress you, inspire you, and capture your imagination.
Even when Disney had "Bombs" in the past (ie. "Black Cauldron", "Treasure Planet"... not dissing the quality of these films, just saying they aren't amongst Disney's most well received) there would still be SOMETHING in them that was fresh and creative and clearly left an impact with some people. Less well-received Disney films like "Black Cauldron" and "Treasure "Planet" got their cult-followings eventually... I doubt Wish is even gonna have that 20 years from now, because there is NOTHING inspiring or unique about it and to me, that's the ultimate tragedy.
A company that could still be creative and interesting even at their lowest points is now producing mediocre forgettable fluff that pales in comparison to their previous work when they're actually TRYING... It's so sad and pathetic.
My solution for the plot while keeping it relatively the same: Magnifico can see the future repercussions of the wish and the reason he does not grant them is that they in one way or another orchestrates his future downfall:
Guy wants to be a musisican -> he makes music that inspires people and makes them think outside his regime and eventually rebel
Lady wants to fly -> that means making magic accessible to commoners, meaning eventually there will be someone more powerful than him
Kid wants riches -> neighboring kingdoms will eventually hear about it and team up to attack the kingdom for said riches.
Then why even do wishes if hes so paranoid ? Garnet has future vision but doesn't think the world will end from every small action
The change I would make is that the source of Magnifico's magic and the wishes is a wishing star he found when he was young. The magic in it is running low because of the wishes he grants, and his bombastic personality hides the fact that he feels the wishes are all everyone cares about. So he's afraid that once the magic runs out, everyone will turn on him and hate him. And when he finds out that Asha has her own star, he sees a way to recharge his own and keep things going. And his defeat in the climax is from the citizens making all kinds of wishes, draining his source of power until all the wishes fail.
@@nicholassims9837he doesn't grant wishes Magnifico's main goal was to make a utopia for himself and others and the price was taking people's wishes and forgetting them... He only grants wishes as a sign of reward but he doesn't really need to because he already gives the basic necessities like peace, food and free shelter
@@bored0886 It really is a great system. It's kind of a win-win. You either get what you want or you stop wanting what you can't have. Imagine if any Disney villain had gone to Magnifico with their wishes. Is someone like Scar worse off for forgetting his wish to be king? Would Cruella be worse off if she forgot her wish to skin puppies? Is the Evil Queen worse off because she no longer wants to be the fairest of them all? Is Jafar worse off for no longer wanting ultimate power? Magnifico removes people's selfishness with their consent.
The infuriating thing is that there are so many ways you could have made the concepts in this film good.
Magnifico could have been an outright villain and the whole wish thing he does could have had the drawbacks be made obvious (if not so extreme as to make people idiots for not seeing them), maybe have the ungranted wishes be used for something, like boosting his own magic, or enchanting the people he took them from
Magnifico's self agrandizement could be part of his character from the start rather then him suddenly swerving into egotistical evil, and then doubling down with the book- then the wish scheme works as a way to keep himself the center of attention, he would be lying about the risks (consciously or not) because he craves the attention and adulation granting the wishes gets him, so he stretches things out and holds back some wishes because they would potentially outshine him, and artificial scarcity drives up the demand and thus the praise he gets
(This also raises an issue the film bungles, the real thing the heroine objects too is how arbitrary the wish granting is, after talking to magnifico, its apparent his decisionmaking process for which wishes to grant makes no sense, and there is no reason he couldn't grant more, or for him to keep the ones he didn't grant. It should be known that only some people get their wishes granted, but apparently noone knew what the rational behind that was, they just all trust Magnifico)
They could have had Magnifico be fully good, but still be an antagonist due to opposing the potential chaos and risk of granting wishes willy nilly, so he only grants ones that support the kingdom, or have there be a REASON the number of wishes he can grant is limited.
They could have gone the villain couple route- in which case they could be playing the good monarchs to keep power and either oppose the wishing star to keep control, or to grab enough power to not need to play nice anymore
The star's power is wasted too, other then the magic wand basically all it does is make animals talk... okay why? why not have all sorts of cools stuff happen due to wishes it grants, heck that's more excuses for references to other films, so I can't think of any reason for Disney to not do it other then budget and time constraints.
The star could have had so many quirks to how it works to limit it or have interesting wrinkles that I struggle to list them-maybe it can't do anything on its own and needs someone to make a wish, maybe its power is limited so it has to be used wisely before it has to go, maybe it's not the first one to fall like that and another star is the source of Magnifico's might,
-maybe removing people's wishes means the star can't do anything for them or maybe be why it hadn't shown up before that, Maybe that could have been Magnifico's real reason, That even ties into the heroine's role, as a potential apprentice maybe she has magical potential, and that combined with not having given up a wish could be why the star shows up for HER and noone else. Magnifico could have been keeping the wishes so prevent that from happening because either he is power hungry, or worried about the chaos such a star could cause.
The underlying message also had potential- the contrast between Magnifico granting a few wishes (especially ones that serve him or the kingdom) vs the potential for any wish to be granted. It could have been a chasing your dreams thing, go out and work to make your wish come true because the star can't do it alone, a message about not giving up on your dreams like those who gave away their wishes did etc. So many ways to play it but instead the final product is so inconsistent and toneless that there is no overall message or moral.
Tying it into the other films and the 100th aniversary could have been done easily too, play into the inspiration angle of wishes and have stories travel beyond the island, have people explicitly go and try and grant wishes and spread the magic- TURN IT INTO A CELEBRATION OF THE PREVIOUS FILMS BY CELEBRATING THE SPIRIT THAT CREATED THEM AND REFERENCE THAT!
So much wasted potential, I would love to see a fanscription of this film.
As someone from Anaheim I still find it weird that people call everything “from Disney”
It’s Walt Disney, or It’s Disneyland, or Disneyworld, or Disneyland Japan etc.
Saying something “is Disney,” is just not something we ever said.
When that deer said "Here I are" i think my brain sputtered and died a little XD
I always wondered if either that deer is supposed to be mentally challenged or the writers think we're incredibly stupid.
@@colbystearns5238 Judging by the lyrics of the other songs like for example " Peep the name", I say its the latter.
@@wolverine3219Or maybe it was just a joke about how he had bad grammar? LOL
It’s a reach but it’s my guess.
@@colbystearns5238 I think it's the latter - there's a gag later on during the forest chase where it gets mesmerized by the light from her wand, ala a car's headlights, and thus can't move out of the way of her cart. But the line in the song doesn't play as the joke I think it was meant as.
"when it comes to the universe we are all shareholders" is a line written by either a sociopath or an AI. NO ONE TALKS THAT WAY AND IT DOES NOT SOUND ANY BETTER IN SONG!
A certain talking TV would say that...Would be fitting honestly.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528
What show?
Especially a movie that’s supposed to take place in a medieval fantasy setting! It’s like if Sleeping Beauty or Snow White were to talk about financial liquidity or leveraged buyouts. 😒
@@dylansharp8471 I'll let you discover of you are of age.
Man, imagine if the movie ends with Asha offering to fulfill people’s wishes, but everyone instead learns to do it in their own. While others go to her for issues in the kingdom and she becoming a ambassador for the King. Studying abroad with Merlin.
I'm gonna be honest, I hadn't even heard of this movie until people complained about it. I'm chronically online, but I had no clue it even existed. That's frankly impressive
It's marketing sucked tbh
A Sad Fact: This film is dedicated to Burny Mattinson, a Disney legend who died on February 27, 2023, having worked at Walt Disney Animation Studios for over 70 years.
You’re forgetting Once Upon a Studio was also dedicated to him and he made a brief appearance proper at the beginning.
@@hunterolaughlinthat was such a great tribute to him and a much more fitting 100th anniversary celebration than wish!
He's probably flipping off Disney from heaven now.
Imagine dying for a legacy that turned out to be a lie 100 years in the making? How fucked up is that?
Once Upon A Studio felt more like a 100 year celebration than anything in this movie.
I couldn’t agree more.
That and Elemental, which IMO was absolutely fantastic even if it’s technically a Pixar film.
I think the biggest problem with this movie is both Aisha and Magnifico. Aisha is clumsy and quirky which we already got from mirabel from enchanto so we didn’t need a repeat of that and we didn’t exactly get much of character outta her. Magnifco which I guess is representation of Malifacent is nothing compared to her King.M is self absorbed, and doenst really have much of a goal in this movie all he wanted to do was get rid of aisha and then what? Just continue to rule your kingdom after they witness you destroy someone.
Not to mention Simon’s betrayal was predictable from the start
A simple yet genius some up at the movies problems, Asha is no different from any other quirky but brave girl BC before Disney but they were done much better. And this came here he is nothing compared to other Disney villains Disney trying to say that his villain song is a return of the Disney great villain, it’s like saying that your pet can defeat a Tibetan mastiff
The fact Disney said great Disney villains were back with king magnificoes”this is the thanks I get?” Is the equivalent of saying your pet Chihuahua can defeat a Dragon 🐉