Sonic Origins is Pretty weird
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Sonic origins is a new compilation featuring remasters of our favourite classic adventures from the 90s, even though 3 out of 4 were already available on smartphones for almost a decade.
Lets take a look at how weird Sonic Origins is.
Knuckles in sonic CD mod:
• Knuckles The Echidna i...
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Sonic The Hedgehog is copyright Sega
Music used:
Sonic_The_Hedgehog_2_Medley_Sonic_Symphony
Sonic_The_Hedgehog_Medley_Sonic_Symphony
Sonic Origins Opening theme
Sonic_Origins_Main_Menu_OST
Tropical Resort - Act 1 (Remix) - Sonic Colors Ultimate
Sonic_1_Music_Marble_Zone
Sonic CD opening Jap (2011)
Sonic CD boss theme USA
Sonic CD Tidal Tempest Past
Sonic_The_Hedgehog_3_And_Knuckles_Medley_Sonic_Symphony
Sonic 3 Carnival night act 1
Sonic 3 Icecap act 1
The Complete Jetzons Hard Times
Sonic 3 & Knuckles Ending medley - Ігри
Thank you so much to everyone who has watched, liked and commented.
I didn't think so many people would see this it really means alot
also for the many of you asking sonic 3 a.i.r is a fanmade remaster of sonic 3 and they have made it avalible on mobile devices
Blue hedgehog
Summed up my thoughts on this game well, also funny skit at the start. Bonus points for being a fellow Aussie lad
bro forgot he can play it in mobile
I got the game the other day, and as I’ve never really played the games before it’s pretty good
@dshaynie
So how can any new player play Sonic.T.H.3&K A.I.R without the Steam rom, due to it being delisted?
Do I need Sonic Origin’s?
Origins is like taking all the mobile ports and locking the phone onto a sonic and knuckles cartridge
Lol
No way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way
@@xxsegaxx that's what I said when they released origins
“Collect Blue Spheres”
Mobile and knuckles
The intro was the perfect definition of the whole game
Ikr and then it said "common sense" 😆
@@EpicTheHedgehogOG I disagree with that sentiment.
The ending was better
They took the "common sense" out of those games
Edit: in the Intro
@@TypmitKFC No they didn’t, at least, I don’t believe so.
I love to play as Coins the Currency. He’s my favorite character.
Original character, do not steal
And he gets super-pregnant by Trails the Hedgefund.
@CoolGamer2773 Just kidding. I'm actually not one of those subset of Sonic fans.
@@right_hand_power7960you did not have to say that
Coins is also the richest character
You can skip 90% of Sonic & Knuckles by jumping into the ring at the start of Mushroom Hill, pausing the game when the screen whites out and selecting Restart. Game gets confused and throws you to Hidden Palace
wouldn't that be 50%?
@@dshaynietheawesome I was just over exaggerating since that skip feels like it’s most of the S&K portion skipped
@@dshaynietheawesome well it would be %90 if you played the knuckles campaign considering he doesn't visit the death egg and sky sanctuary is literally just a final boss not a proper zone
19:08 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!! It's such a huge killer for replayability and the lack of an easy 'game opts' button like Mania also means I have to have the sound test codes memorized for NO REASON AT ALL! amazing video, so thorough
It is probably my single biggest gripe with the game. It's such an odd change to make, and just makes it worse. I can get some people preferring to do perfect runs, but then... Nothing would be stopping you from doing that anyway if they used the Sonic 3 save system. Is it really so much to ask for a stage select to appear when you load up cleared game data? And what's the deal with only getting one save per character?
Okay.
Sonic 1 sound test code: up, down, left, right
Debug code (sonic 1) release date: 19910623
Sonic 2 sound test code: up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right
Debug code (sonic 2) release date: 19921124
Sonic 3 sound test code: up, up, down, down, up, up, up, up
Debug code (sonic 3) release date; 19941018
Super sonic code (all games, in sound test) 4, 1, 2, 6
Hyper sonic code (sonic 3 only, in sound test) 4, 1, 2, 6 twice
“RINGS IS WHAT SONIC IS KNOWN FOR.”
Speed: “well guess I’m useless.”
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Weeeeeeeell, if you wanna get technical, I'd say he's known for three things.
Gold Rings, One Button, and most telling of all, Speed.
There's also Attitude, but no one really seems to care about that since Sonic was apparently "cute and innocent" back in the Classic games.
I don't get it
@@cedialive2759 "cute" bro can be considered a fucking menace in the wrong enviroment
@@LifeformCore Nobody knows Sonic for his 'being friendly,' 'being cocky,' or 'saving the world,' OR 'defeating Robotnik.'
It's really just 'speed,' and even 'skills' is a bit of a stretch. Unless you're talking about in-universe.
16:17 The Carnival night music is timed with Sonic hitting the ice cap snowboard wall and reaching the ground which is kinda funny
ayyye haha that is funny
You're an absolute criminal how did you notice that
They've actually updated Origins, so all the Knuckles Chaotix has been labeled correctly
They also fixed the tails off the screen issue... They fixed these issues before this video came out yet he doesn't mention it 🤔
But I still can’t admire Sonic CD in widescreen in Original Mode :/
I like the way that "Coins" is an anogram of "Sonic" - was that quicker than removing the icon🤣
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The ending of Sonic CD and the removal of the voices of sonic isn’t the developers fault. It’s Sega’s fault. Sega purposefully sabatoged it.
See people give Sega credit for being supportive of modding when in reality they're just a more douchey Nintendo.
at least they dont sue you for even saying their fricking name...
Apparently Sonic's plane comes from his father... Who we never get to see, ever...
I still feel the Micheal Jackson issue is just a little bullshit. He was employed by Sega to make the tracks, all this could've been avoided by a better written contract.
Also I would've loved to see something worthwhile for collecting the coins like cosmetics for the characters. Perhaps the ability to use different Sonic sprites like S3&K Sonic in CD or other games.
That is exactly what I wanted too! (The second paragraph)
To be fair, lots of Sega's history could've been avoided with a better written contract. That's why Sonic Spinball was initially recalled, why Sonic X-Treme had so many issues in development, and why the Ken Penders Chronicles even happened to begin with.
@@oldchannel2892 A lot of the Ken Penders debacle was on Archie Comics being the most incompetent company ever, though Sega certainly didn't help the situation doing shit like enforcing mandates but providing nothing to enable the artists to follow them.
A lot of issues at SEGA could have been avoided from the get go had SEGA employeed management members who don't have room temperature IQ, this time it's celcius and the location is Antarctica.
Well there's a reason why Sega isn't making consoles anymore. Because Sega wasn't ran by the smartest people
I really liked sonic's classic voice, I can understand not being able to get the original voice actor - but nothings stopping them from re-casting like they have many times with sonic. I think this one really fit though, and they had absolutely no right stripping sonic away from his voice in cd (don't think they added it in classic mode either, probably due to sega.)
I think SEGA has the right to do anything they want with Sonic, considering they own the rights to him and are the company that developed and published the game. I, personally, did not like the voice and am glad they removed it. I can understand the disappointment, though.
@@colbyfrewin9714 That and Anniversary Mode is the main culprit for its reason... ignoring the fact that they kept the voice clips intact in 2011 ports.
It took me 11 years to realize that "Sonic" is an anagramm of "Coins". I'm not sure how I feel about this.
The complaint of having to get all the emeralds on a single run in Origins is kinda moot when you consider the fact that Origins lets you retry the special stages upon failing. So unless you're an ultra purist, you don't need to go back to the stages to attempt the emerald again. Sure, you need Coins, but it's not like it's hard to rack up a decent amount of those.
Purist Mode activated
13:04
Sonic: im outta here!
Song: yayyyy
Yep, the song hates sonic
8:18 yes, yes it does. Some games are already challenging without the lives system, but it feels wrong getting rid of lives for games that were literally built with that in mind to motivate you to play better
For me at least, lives don't motivate me to play better, they nullify my motivation to play at all.
I don't enjoy being forced to repeat tasks that I already demonstrated the ability to complete just because a later part of a game is giving me trouble, so I'm more likely to switch to a game that doesn't rely on lives to artificially extend itself instead.
I think the option of no lives system is good for those who want it, but not being able to independently toggle things like lives, widescreen, drop dash, and cutscenes is a real fun killer. You either get to play with all the new stuff, or none of it. No in between. What if someone wants to play in widescreen, but without coins or dropdash? Or with lives and dropdash, but in widescreen, etc
@@botanicalmenace9995 Seconded. The more options a player has to tweak their experience, the better.
The canonical reason for Tails not being in CD was because he went to a plane convention, I think that has alot more charm to it than Sonic just not meeting him yet.
Good video. I like how you didn't defend SEGA for their bizarre and somewhat predatory decisions, and gave them credit for the things they did right. Often with videos about Sonic, people tend to be too extreme. It is either the "worse game ever" or "fans need to stop complaining".
As for me, I will be waiting for at least a 50% discount on Steam. The current price, especially where I live, is way too expensive for a collection of games I played dozens of times already. I was hoping the pricing would be more reasonable like with the Mega Man, Mega Man X and Mega Man Zero Collections, but SEGA (and Bandai Namco with the Klonoa Collection) decided to go the opposite way with their price tags.
I will always give positive feedback where necessary but i am not afraid to call out BS especially when it seems to follow no logical sense and that pretty much sums up origins theres some good but theres also some bad
Im not sure if you can, but from what I know… if you play story mode, since there isn’t menus you can’t change Sonic CD to have the JP soundtrack
same here
With you saying about being a shill, who kisses Sega's ass, I recall seeing Badnik Mechanic doing just that with his review. Because when it came to lives, or the lack of options to toggle them on and off in both modes, he simply laughed "haha, shut up, scum!" And then proceed to brush off any would be complaints as he remarks about how it makes the games more accessible to others and doesn't impact your experience in anyway, so there is that. Though surely having more options instead of less would make the game more accessible still, and also wouldn't impact his experience in anyway. Just saying.
Well there's a steam sale the past weekend, which is why I own the steam version 😂
I think Amy had a big role in the final cutscene because she was going to be playable, but we all know Sega’s greedy and rushed the games so they could profit. Heck, she might have even had her own story mode in CD like Knuckles had in 3&K!
This is called Sonic Origins for a reason, and Piko Piko shouldn't be made for Amy until Sonic the Fighters.
@@mazkeraid4039 But if they only wanted to rehash what we already have, they wouldn't have made Tails and Knuckles playable in Sonic 1. That doesn't make sense, does it?
Times have changed. Amy's role in the group is bigger than it used to be, not just in terms of modern!Amy, but in classic as well. She's prominent in Origins' cutscenes. She has an equal share in the classic-themed Sonic Mega Drive comics alongside the other three. Amy's more popular than ever, and the Sonic franchise isn't an old boys' club anymore. It's her turn.
@@trumpeterjen You must’ve forgotten that if it were not for Sonic the Fighters, she wouldn’t be made for today.
Plus, Stealth is on his own when developing Sonic Origins with Retro Engine to boot, so I doubt he’ll just make sprites for Amy from the ground up.
And another thing, I don’t care how popular she got now, it doesn’t change the fact that she was rather insignificant at points.
@@mazkeraid4039 No, I haven't forgotten. Amy isn't her former self in the franchise right now. She's come a long way. She's not insignificant *now.* Even in the Origins cutscenes, she's swinging her hammer alongside the others. It doesn't matter that Sonic the Fighters isn't part of the collection. She's part of the core group, and the hammer comes with her.
Modders have been putting Amy into the classic games and Mania for years now, even with her classic design. It's completely doable. Sega hired people like that for Mania. They could easily do so here.
This isn't about the past, it's about updating the old. That's why there's drop-dashing and spin-dashing. That's why Tails and Knuckles are in Sonic 1 now. They weren't originally, but times have changed. It's now jarring that Amy's not there because her role in the franchise isn't the same. A LOT of people would pick up Origins if they added playable Amy, myself included. It's the right move.
@@trumpeterjen Modding Amy in the games doesn't count, and regardless what you may think, Sonic Origins Plus may not be a reality anytime soon.
There should be more patches available and did you think I forgot that Tails wasn't even in Sonic CD originally?
Also, how is Amy going to play, emulating the Advance movepools? If Amy did not appear in Mania Plus, what makes you think she'll get a second chance here?
When they refered to new playable characters, i expected Mighty and Ray tbh
High quality, underrated youtuber.
Dshaynie is waaaaaaaay to underrated
14:58 As for Stealth, he said was SEGA made major modifications to his work, some due to how Origins was, some not
So there was an update that fixed the following:
-Tails doesn’t get stuck in Sonic 2 anymore
-New cheats (for Sonic 3&K Sound Test
-Other stuff I can’t remember
They didn’t fix tails they just made it so you can’t here him jumping infinity, they also fixed the blue spheres music not speeding up and enabled the sonic 3 codes that were already in the game but were disabled
@@dshaynietheawesome For Tails thing, eh that's still good in its own right
I saw someone say "Tails is playable in SCU let's gooooo" Poor them.
I find it hilarious that Sega went through all of the effort to replace the MJ songs, but forgot to take Brad Buxer out of the credits.
21:25 Now I know why Knuckles wasn't added to the game.
Totally loved this video. The humour, the special effects, and of course the in-depth look into Origins and its options. Top notch!
Man, you’ve really grown as a channel.
I remember back in the day when you asked me to do a green screen fight scene for you in Super Mario 64 LMFAOO.
Good job, kiddo. I’m really proud of you 💯
🫡
ok the first scene where you tape sonic 1,2,CD & 3 together is downright funny
And yet, people bought it in droves.
Either we're doing something wrong or Sega is doing something horribly, horribly right
I LOVED that finale
I was waiting for the jump at the end and it was more perfect than I could have possibly imagined
that avgn reference was perfect 😂😂
20:20 avgn moment and I'm happy for it
9:34 Sonic CD was not intended as a sequel, its chronological position was never clear until the release of Sonic 4. With the release of Sonic 4, Sonic CD was placed between 3&K and Sonic 4 (Although now they changed it and it is between Sonic 1 and 2).
You really want to use sonic 4 to make your point?
@@dshaynietheawesome What's wrong with it? Sonic 4 is completely canonical and, although it has now changed, at the time it was explained that it is a continuation of Sonic CD
@@juanignaciotello6045 sonic 4 is not canonical anymore and i think you knew that also don't you think the existence of sonic cd being placed between sonic 1 and 2 may mean oh i dunno thats what is officially canon now
but keep to your preferred headcanon i won't argue
@@dshaynietheawesome Where did you get that Sonic 4 is not canon? I did not hear that
@@dshaynietheawesome I think you're being unreasonable about the topic. While, yes, it does make the most sense that Sonic CD takes place between 1 and 2, that doesn't discount that there have always been valid reasons to believe otherwise. It's a bit strange to outright pretend that it makes no sense for CD to have taken place after 3&K when there's plenty of reasonable evidence that could have previously made a case for it.
They should've remade these games in the animation style of the menus IMO. We already have Megadrive Sonic games on the Nintendo online.
23:52 This is me realizing that sonic 3 a.i.r. exists
Thanks for making this video all that time ago. If you hadn’t I would’ve had no idea 3 A.I.R. Was available on mobile.
16:24 Alright time for the biggest one, one of the other collaborators (Bobby Brooks), seems to have been the lone guy that caused the music for the 3 zones (also Competition Menu and S3 Ending, the latter of which is used in the Best Ending only) to be replaced with the new tracks
12:09
Doc/original Devs: That's How time traveling Works
Marty/Kids You telling me you made a horrible remaster, OnTop of A Masterpiece?!?!
Lol
17:00 me too me too bro 😢
About the Sonic CD ending cutscenes, the speed in Origins its the real speed that its supposed to play,
It was the 1996 PC port which slowed the ending down to fit most of the song in it
It was only coming back to edit where I figured that out and they were slowed to fit the credits on both pc and sega cd but I couldn’t help but feel in some places it was too fast which is why i made my own edit adjusting the speed and sound in places
Love this video, well organized and was really nice to watch. Keep up the great work!
Thankfully as of the day this uploaded, the Tails bug is fixed and the blue sphere music speeds up properly.
I’m surprised you didn’t go over the weird physics, especially in 3&K. There’s some stuff that isn’t even accessible that was before. Specifically that one big ring in Hydrocity
I haven’t experienced or noticed this
I was never able to get that ring in the real version.
That “NOO-” at the end made me laugh I was just expecting the video to end
I really like your passion for the Sonic series. The green screen segments were great. I hope your channel continues to grow!!
OK I wasn't expecting an AVGN reference, it make me laugh ngl.
You, complain about coins? Oh wait, you're a Sonic fan of course.
The back to the future reference got me
For changing Ice Cap music they WON'T be forgiven. Never.
7:21 got me rolling on the floor
7:20
Not gonna like you are one of the best channels to watch when you are just looking to learn something and you’re funny while you’re doing
17:38 tails u good
24:03 Me If Big Man Loses The Splatfest
I seriously got a Sonic Origins Ad 🗿
24:06 also, the retro engine got decompiled recently which means you could have sonic mania on your phone with 1 2 CD and 3 A.I.R
Wait how
I need to know how
The intro felt like an episode of Gumball
Coins the hedgehog sounds like a good name for a sonic oc
I'm actually so pissed that they had the nerve to de-list it off of Steam. All I can really do now is play them on an emulator (if you want, use ClassicBoy Pro) since my high school has restricted computer games.
That ending bit of the video was pretty good. I like how ya had yourself green screened into what looks like Sonic 2s ending with the music. Still a great ending to a great game.
The complaint about the coins counter seems like a nitpick. It's still in the same style. Anyway, the game is JUST like Super Mario 3D All-Stars, in that a game is missing! Knuckles Chaotix! There's not even a rerelease for that, as far as I know.
go and play knuckles chaotix then come back and tell me if you still want it remastered
@@dshaynietheawesome See, that's why it should BE remastered! They could fix or tweak broken stuff. But that would probably be too much work? Anyway, it follows the usual Sonic rule of having good music, so it's sad that people can't get it in context anymore.
@@bsharpmajorscale Ngl having a option to disable the ring mechanic with some level design changes if you do disable, would already make the game much better.
If head cannon actually was able to finish sonic 3 & Knuckles we could’ve got an option between animated remaster of the sonic 3 and knuckles cutscenes and the originals.
Edit : idk actually care if they did that or not cause the originals are still master pieces
Fun Fact: Sonic's name is Coins scrambled up
Omgg!! "What where they thinking?!?!"
I love that the reference went so far as to dress up as the nerd
it felt fitting
The Coins system is a must when you want to do those goddam awful Sonic CD Special Stages…
I never really had a problem with them I only ever failed them about twice during my origins playthrough but truthfully I’ve been playing this version of cd since 2014
That was the best outro I've ever seen.
Would of been a day one buy if they made physicals. Something tells me SEGA didn’t so they can pull the games off the online market at some point to make another collection in the future
10:25 Ohohohohoho nooooooooooooooooo
Maybe in your corner of the internet people think that, but definitely not in mine. US Soundtrack is a bop
12:10 that Vegeta impression though.
“Screw you Labyrinth Zone”
If you ever play Sonic 2, wait until you get to Metropolis Zone
Great vid that outlines the good and the bad of this game. As a fellow Aussie I can’t justify the price for this game considering the many little issues. I’ll consider it for maybe 20-30 dollars.
lmfao you sold me on that beginning, absolutely hilarious
Perfect title, I couldn’t off said it any better myself to be honest. Good video!
The ending made me laugh
to the people in the comments trying to defend Origins' downsides, shortcomings and detrimental bugs, i present to you a concept:
a game that is what it says it is in advertising and description, works as intended, and doesn't inconvenience the player through developer error, poor decision-making or game/content pricing. it's a bit of a fantastical concept, i know, but just imagine it for a second.
Sounds like a myth to me
@@dshaynietheawesome perhaps
also, sorry to everyone else who reads my comment above, it is pretty snarky 😬
also, cool video on the debug and cheat code stuff, dshaynie. i appreciate having that now, can't believe i didn't know about some of the stuff in it
I love the intro, it is so accurate and funny at the same time.
This is an amazingly detailed review, Kudos!
9:26 *"SCREW YOU, LABYRINTH ZONE!"*
0:14 bro needed to sacrifice 3 phones for that joke 💀
yes
7:27 "Also, coin. Coins and Sonic. *_Mario_** coin sound plays twice while some are shown on screen* _COINS!!!"_
they should have put red rings instead of coins lol
I think I would consider getting the game if Amy was actually playable.
(Was gonna say Amy is underrated, but is she really with fans at this point? I know she used to be called annoying back then, but I see a lot more appreciation for her character these days. Not just the Boom version either. I mean her original character back in the adventure games up to unleashed)
I think you mean if, and I'll say this as the guy who grew up with Sonic, Amy was just there in later games (with the exception of Unleashed).
@@mazkeraid4039: Thanks. The comment is now edited.
No time like the present for change, which goes for more than just my comment. Amy usually has pretty unique gameplay when she is playable, so I am very hopeful for her inclusion beyond cameos.
@@fishnewt1331 I would have as well, but…
bruh someone made a mod that adds Mighty as a new playable character in Sonic 3 A.I.R. also the part at the end
this is a good review. it hits on many good points.
as someone that doesnt have as much time to game as I used to i appreciate the unlimited lives change. but agree it should be optional.
Tysm for showing how you can switch the sonic CD music. You’re a game saver.
20:19 That AVGN reference though 😭
21:00 I think they were going to add Amy into the game, but then it got scrapped for some reason
Hi there I'm from the future and Amy is in the Origins Plus version.
@@ZTimeGamingYT erm ye i kinda know that now
@@monkyr69no you don’t
@@l_guy your 5 months late bro
nuh uh @@monkyr69
16:40 banger
The city background is a reference to the city sonic and his friends were in on one of the sonic mania covers
Origins Plus was announced, Amy is Playable, and that’s about it besides a bunch of smaller games being included, (Sonic Triple Trouble, Mean Bean Machine, Tail’s Adventure, etc). Sadly no Chaotix, neither the game nor as playable characters.
Awkward that this video was released a day after some of the bugs were already fixed in a patch lol
This game is perfect for me,sonic 3 prototype music is great just everything is.
Agreed.
After watching multiple videos on your channel, I really like how well edited your videos are and the sense of humor in them. I really applaud you on that, and hope your channel continues to grow! I've subscribed to see what future content this channel will bring.
As for the content of this video itself, I remember people all jumping for joy when this game was announced because Sonic 3 was coming back and swearing that Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base music would come back. Man what a punch to the gut, but I guess I get why. I personally wonder why they didn't work it out so that you had the option to get the original music if you bought the DLC (at the time that whacky flow chart came out saying the thing had "additional music", that's what I thought they meant). I was very disappointed when the game came out, and my preorder of the deluxe edition had a bunch of mislabled music instead of the original Sonic 3 tracks. Though personally I like the beta version of Launch Base more than the Jackson version (Ice Cap and Carnival Night from the beta are meh at best, especially Ice Cap). It's also amazing how lazily ported the Sonic 1, 2, and CD games are, I've resorted to playing ports of the mobile versions that exist from reverse engineering projects (As I actually own all the Android versions anyways). What a time to live in.
13:26
I'm happy you seem to be the only one who noticed. When I saw the sped up ending I was upset. Are you really gonna speed it up just because the opening was fast?
The only reason the opening was like that was to have the movie match the same length as the song. I'm also really pissed they used the beta ver of you can do anything just like sonic jam did. THANK GOD WE HAD MODS TO FIX THOSE ISSUES. at least I'm thankful for the cutscene upscaling.
In classic mode the only special stage i failed was the 7th so just to unlock it in both the & origins time i have to play through about half of the game (asuming i don't fail any special stages) again just to unlock this 1 special stage in both time attacks
been a while since I laughed with a review. Great review, detailed and unbiased. May get the game if the price goes down significantly.
I hate to be that guy but in this game you do have consequences when you die, you get set back to the last checkpoint and the level resets to how it was when you hit the checkpoint, but in family guy back to the multiverse where when you die enemies don’t respawn, stages don’t reset, and in the boss fights, the bosses health doesn’t even reset, when you get to the final boss, it throws everything at you
This is the reason why i bought S3&K before Origins came out.