Really wish Sonic Team had time to finish Froniters and maybe we could have gotten a different unique 4th island. As for favorite cut lvls, Genocide city cuz that name sounds like the stage would be challenging Hell Zone for gamers and I’m interested in what Sonic Team original planned for the stage. For stage I wish was shown is the Olympus stage. Sounds interesting n unique cuz Sonic hasn’t really gotten Olympian inspired stages so it would be cool n fun to see Sonic Team creativity for that cut lvl
The video is way too overedited in my opinion, also it seems like you didn't do enough research, for example you didn't mention that r2 has 2 confirmed names (Ridicule Root and Dubious Depths)
Sonic CD has so many Zones are much based in Sonic 1 such as Plumtree Panic based Green Hill Collison Chaos based Spring Yard Tidal Tempest based Labyrinth Stardust Speedway based Starlight Metallic Madness based Scrap Brain, the Deleted zone is gonna be Based Marble Zone.
@shaulov10 another one of CDs Developers Mazin confirmed that another name for the Zone would have been ridiculed root it's also likely that the the bit of the Zone we see in the credits is likely the present version of The Zone but that's just a guess really if I had a rough guess of what the good Futures color palette would be it would probably be purple since all the good Futures in Sonic CD are a different color from each other and we don't have a purple good future I mean we have tidal Tempest which is kind of pink
From Sonic 2 we also have Fire Mountain/Volcano Zone, Neo Death Egg Zone,and a park-themed level which we don't know about except that the concept art was drawn, and Rock World Zone from Ruined Present/Now 2
@@shaulov10Fire Mountain/Volcano Zone was after Cyber City Zone and it was in the last visit to past,Neo Death Egg Zone was the final level,Death Egg Zone was after Dust Hill Zone
Sonic CD was originally going to be a CD port of the original Sega Genesis/Mega Drive game, Sonic The Hedgehog, but it became its own project. Due to this, this led most Sonic CD rounds being based on original Sonic zones, like Palmtree Panic and Collision Chaos are based on Green Hill and Spring Yard Zone, respectively. If that's the case, then R2 should be based on Marble Zone. The name of the zone eventually got revealed which is "Dubious Depths/Ridicule Root". Either name could be an early name for the other, like how Palmtree Panic was originally going to be called "Salad Plain". There are 2 theories on why it was scrapped: 1) It was removed due to space/time constraints, considering how latter Classic Sonic games at the time were receiving less development time compared to the original game it was based on. 2) R2 is unfit for the game's themes/mechanics, so it ended up cut. The game has a time travel mechanic. However, you can't time travel straight away, you have to run, run, and run, in order for it to trigger. Also, despite Sonic The Hedgehog ending up receiving well, it had its fair share of flaws that fans and critics criticize about, like Marble Zone. You start in Green Hill, which is more fast-paced and go-with-the-flow type level, but when you reach Marble Zone, it's more slow-paced, take-your-time, and strategize, also considering how being too fast in the level punishes you especially since you can't see what's ahead of you. Also, in the 2011 Sonic CD remaster, there was an unused boss known as "Final Fever", which is named after the final boss theme in the JP soundtrack of the same name. It was going to be the game's R9 if you keep the cut R2 level in mind, which was originally going to be triggered once Sonic collected all the 7 Time Stones, which teleports Sonic and Eggman into a plane where time is non-existent, and Eggman brings his robot which is virtually unstoppable by any means, but in order to defeat him, Sonic has to travel to the past where the robot is incomplete, giving Sonic a chance to destroy it. It was removed for the same reasons as the new R2, Desert Dazzle. Also, the concept where Sonic goes to West Island's Hidden Palace to unlock his Super Sonic form. This was recycled for Sonic 3 and Knuckles were after collecting all the 7 Chaos Emeralds in the Sonic 3 levels via giant rings. In the Sonic and Knuckles levels, giant rings are replaced with super rings which takes Sonic to Angel Island's Hidden Palace Zone, in order to transform the Chaos Emeralds into Super Emeralds to unlock the final form, Hyper Sonic.
Theory: The Egg Fleet ships being themed around sea creatures (Shortfin Mako Sharks, Sawfish, Manta Rays, and a Whaleshark) was connected to Final Fortress being underwater.
the production value of this video was a massive unexpected slap to the face compared to your other content regarding Sonic (in a good way), it's definitely worth appreciating, you didn't need to go that hard, yet you did... amazing job. it's... this was an interesting topic i don't think about too often so i don't really have much to say, but it's definitely fun to think about what these levels could've been if implemented into their final product.
Fun fact, that hidden palace we saw isn’t that lost. Sonic 2 2013 mobile port restored Hidden Palace Zone, and finished it which is finally playable, BUT if you enter this code: 03, 03, 03, 0B, 10, 10, 10, 04, and selected hidden palace, you can play Proto Palace Zone (which sadly, Sonic Origins removed Proto Palace Zone)
That's why it's still in the Game by using a cheat device and you can even see its icon for the level select showing how early it was worked on.Though it's pretty much unplayable.
@@luthergaming5789 The reason it's unplayable in the final game is because it got completely removed from the final game. Hidden Palace almost had a chance of actually making it into the game, since it was intact in some of the last betas of Sonic 2. But, they ended up removing it due to memory limitations and in the final build, like you said, there is barely anything (except the music track and level icon) remaining.
There's one more piece of concept art in Sonic Origins where you can see a world map of little planet with R2 visible as being a marble zone type stage
Another correction: Sonic 1's Mountain Zone is just a really early Labyrinth. Labyrinth was going to be almost completely different early in development, and this is what said concept looked like. You also missed Laboratory Zone, which IS a separate Zone from Scrap Brain/Clock Work. This zone wasn't concepted very much other than the pipe gimmick.
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that the beginning is very hard to watch. I'm not epileptic, but I'm sure the strobing and flashing could cause seizures. Plus, it was very distracting. I do hope that's not something you'll do again, for the safety of others Edit: it's throughout the video. Please don't do that again.
Genocide City and R2 have always been my favorite scrapped zones. I love Genocide City because it shows off a futuristic cyber type of a zone which I find cool. And I’m interested in R2 because I have a vivid memory of playing the 2013 remaster of Sonic CD when I was very young and having access to the zone and to fight the boss as you chased him across the screen.
"Early in Sonic 2's development an easter egg involving the time travel mechanic was heavily worked on. The secret involved sonic traveling back in time 10 times in a row with six of the chaos emeralds collected resulting in him being sent to 'mega smegma zone,' a large dark cave with lush scenery that hid primordial humans and strange creatures made of smegma that grunted very realistically. These enemies would want to (as quoted by yuji naka) 'get a wiff of sonic's toesie woesies.' It was ultimately cut due to the strict policy sega had for smega appaearing in their games before exiting the console industry." - Did You Know Gaming, 2021
Sonic Adventure had a scrapped Mushroom Hill stage & Jungle Stage while Sand Hill was intended to be a full stage at 1 point much like Ice Cap according to some source on Sonic Retro I read years ago. Of course it's possible that the devs thought that the Mystic Ruins were getting too much focus as 5/11 Stages are found there in the final game. Personally I believe we didn't stop getting cut zones/stages merely we stopped getting reveals of cut content. Also you should have brought up the Sky Chase Dragon. I hope we get info of cut content from the Sonic Advance Trilogy & Gamegear games someday. As for Adventure 2 I suspect that the 2P Stage Grind Race may have been assets from a scrapped stage as the others are merely edits of existing 1P Stages. Awesome video!
The editing style isn't bad, but it's overused. The overly serious VHS editing has been used too much times to count, but this was a pretty good attempt at it. And besides some misinformation, the video was entertaining. Keep up the good work 👍
0/10 u forgot cyber station act 2 (imma edit when finishing the video to see if u missed smthn) Edit: forces actually had some concept art of green hill and an arabian like city in the concept arts of the game so... yeah forces had some things going for it, also, great video, love the editing style!
It's always cool to see what could have been. But it's always interesting how the process of making levels for a game is very similar to writing songs to go on a music album. So many things get pitched, wrote, demo'd, etc, then you gotta trim it all down to go into the final product. It's like how a movie can have hundreds of pieces of concept art that are just pitches and were never actually officially a part the movie at any point. Just goes to show that creating any kind of art is an ever changing process.
For widy valley, Takeshi Iizuka actually talked about it in an interview : the level was too big and confusing (you guessed right) he also explained that it was him that made the final version xe know today
Did you know if you do a code I forgot the code in the sonic 2 mobile port you can play the Nik arcade version and you need to do the debug code also how you beat the stage is you need to stand on the master emarld and you teleport back to the title screen or emarld hill I forgot
The 4chan leak that originally said that Sonic Frontiers (Rangers at the time) was going to be open world said the fourth island was going to be Green Hill if I remember correctly. Glad it got cut.
There's something deeply fascinating and exciting about the mysterious lost levels/lost media of the Sonic franchise (especially in the Sonic games), in my opinion. My favourite cut content from the Sonic games would equally be the flying saucers from Marble Zone in Sonic 1 and Genocide City Zone from Sonic 2. Just the mere fact that we got a level in Sonic 2 called 'Genocide City Zone' (even though the level was removed) is why the Sonic franchise is better than the Mario franchise in my opinion and I say this as a fan of both Sonic AND Mario. The Mario franchise would NEVER have a level called 'Genocide City Zone' even as a lost level. Sonic has always been a more ballsy franchise than Mario. lol
Wasn’t there another scraped/cancelled level in the Sonic CD mobile port that was exactly like Titanic Monarch in Sonic Mania? Made by Christian Whitehead? I remember seeing a picture of it back then.
They should make a game called Sonic the hedgehog: Lost levels released in japan and then everywhere else one day after, including EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. EVER. Scrapped, non playable or not.
ngl if an alternate timeline where sega and nintendo swap places, there might be a classic game that's supposed to be the japanese version of sonic 2 called sonic lost levels and will get remade for origins
Third comment: 4:03 the song was used in a roblox game called “Sonic script test”, it ends up playing faster and faster as you speed up. Wanna know how i know? I recognized it.
Your wording in the desert section seemed really confused and you mispronounced Hydrocity but this was a mostly well put together video I could do without all the flashing though
If Genocide City is a futuristic metropolis, then what is this sonic 2 level I've seen of a stormy city with chained skeletons on the walls and chemical plant's enemies and boss? EDIT: I’ve figured out that it’s a reimagining of the zone from Sonic 2 Long Version to suit the name more
Bro sonic 2 is a mess, the one I would've loved to see in the final game is the Death Egg, I've seen some idiots because that's what they are that say "HEY, IF I HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE DEATH EGG FROM SONIC 2 AND SONIC 3, I LIKE SONIC 2 MORE" and I'm like it's just a re-color from Chemical Plant, but I really would loved that base in the space idea, and also talking about R2 or Dubious Depths/ Ridicule Root/ Desert Dazzle whatever, I think another comment already tells this but CD is like another version of Sonic 1, and Palmtree Panic is Green Hill, R2 is Marble Zone, Collision Chaos is Spring Yard (I like to call it Sparkling xd), Tidal Tempest is Labyrinth, etc; So yeah and also for the fact that cd was originally a port for sonic 1 to the sega cd, and well they scrapped marble zone from sonic cd version, and also the sonic 1 special stage for sonic cd version (which I believe, are re-imagined as the bonus stages in sonic superstars), so yeah that's it
If all the cut stages were in Sonic 2 Sonic origins and r2 and desert dazzle was in Sonic CD Sonic origins and the beta Kronos Island and the original windy valley and Sonic adventure these games would have been amazing and why couldn't they make a DLC for Sonic origins called the levels that could make it will they put all the cut stages from Sonic 1 2 and CD in Sonic originally and I didn't know that wood zone eventually turned into mushroom Hill zone for Sonic 3 & knuckles but at least hidden Palace got into the final game and beta Kronos would make great DLC for Sonic frontiers (I just mentioned that)
2:52 it was actually presented MUCH before Origins I dont remember the exact source, but if you check out Tetrabits Lost Bits on Sonic CD, he shows the original source of it
Nice video man. The glitching effect being used that frequently was a bit annoying and there was some stuff that wasn’t 100% accurate but besides that,it’s a very cool and fun video.
7:46 Incorrect, its only in the simon wai and august 21 prototypes. Although they are exactly the same. Also at 8:23 , you put dust hill and not sand shower. Dust hill was mystic cave before being changed to.. mystic cave. It was the ruined version of green/emerald hill, hence the name.
For Sonic Adventure 1 Egg Carrier was meant to have a 4th act but it was cut also Twinkle Park was meant to look different and Tails was meant to have it as a playable level
Can you chill with the unnecessary glitch effects? The intro to the sonic 2 segment had me almost rolling my eyes lol The video is good enough, but the effects really get intrusive, especially on rewatch.
I’m happy Golden Capital was brought back in Superstars, and while I’m probably one the few people who love that game I was a little disappointed that it ended up being another lame collision chaos bumper-type level where you just bounce all over the place
why bro glazing it, its just levels, this aint no crime scene brother 💀 jokes aside, pretty informative video, really surprised to know nothing was cut from heros and onwards until frontiers
I want a Sonic game with stages representing different parts of the Sonic universe. South Island: Green Hill. Mirage Island(4.2): Sylvania Castle West Side Island: Hilltop Little Planet: Rainbow Ruins (Scrapped R2) Islands as a whole: Bridge Zone+Pine Trees. Island Rush. Islander Civilization: City, Sonic Forces, but without the wanton destruction and rampaging Death Egg Sentinels. Human Civilization: Skyscraper Scamper Eggman: I'd like a stage that's red and grey with caution tape, but let's just go with Chemical Plant for now. It's so damn recurring. Angel Island: Sky Sanctuary(Flying Ruins gets Angel Island's core idea across pretty well) Lost Hex: Hidden World
That's awesome You went over all these cut stages. I definitely was aware of hidden Palace zone but I wasn't aware that there were so many zones cut from Sonic 2 that would end up being used in later Sonic games including 25 years later in Sonic mania. That's awesome
Fun fact: Sonic Dream Team also has a cut junkyard stage.
Imma wait for the DLC cause I’m betting it’s gonna show up there
@@shaulov10Hopefully
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Fun fact: I got 100th Likes on your Comment
Keep forgetting about that one
Sonic Lost Levels Sounds Interesting ❤ Wow Your Editing Got An Upgrade Great Video ❤❤
Thank you 🙏
@@shaulov10Your Welcome ❤
"Sonic the Hedgehog!: The Lost Levels"
Really wish Sonic Team had time to finish Froniters and maybe we could have gotten a different unique 4th island. As for favorite cut lvls, Genocide city cuz that name sounds like the stage would be challenging Hell Zone for gamers and I’m interested in what Sonic Team original planned for the stage. For stage I wish was shown is the Olympus stage. Sounds interesting n unique cuz Sonic hasn’t really gotten Olympian inspired stages so it would be cool n fun to see Sonic Team creativity for that cut lvl
I feel like that unused island in frontiers could possibly be reuse in the sequel
Nah, at this point I just want original content
@@shaulov10 oh okay and I'll be happy with just original content for frontiers 2
The video is way too overedited in my opinion, also it seems like you didn't do enough research, for example you didn't mention that r2 has 2 confirmed names (Ridicule Root and Dubious Depths)
"THE ZONES SEGA, THE ZONES WHAT DO THEY MEAN!?" I couldn't help myself LOL
I appreciate everyone who gets what game I took inspiration from
@@shaulov10 I just love gun games LOL
I like how you treat the editing for the sonic 2 part like it’s a murder documentary
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its more like the entire video
Sonic CD has so many Zones are much based in Sonic 1 such as Plumtree Panic based Green Hill Collison Chaos based Spring Yard Tidal Tempest based Labyrinth Stardust Speedway based Starlight Metallic Madness based Scrap Brain, the Deleted zone is gonna be Based Marble Zone.
That actually makes a lot of sense now that you mention it
Its because CD started development as a Sonic 1 pseudo remake. Dubious depths would have been the parallel to Marble Zone
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Yes, My Favourite Sonic CD Levels, PLUMtree Panic And Collison Chaos
Dubious depths was revisited from the mod for decomplation
Dubious Depths/Ridicule Root/R2 is the most famous cut level in Sonic's history! Finally people are interested in cut Sonic levels 🤩
Once I started researching, I got really interested in the stage
It's really not but go off
@@evdestroy5304i mean its the coolest
R2 was actually confirmed by Naoto Oshima to be called dubious depths
Shout out to naoto oshima for confirming stuff
@shaulov10 another one of CDs Developers Mazin confirmed that another name for the Zone would have been ridiculed root it's also likely that the the bit of the Zone we see in the credits is likely the present version of The Zone but that's just a guess really if I had a rough guess of what the good Futures color palette would be it would probably be purple since all the good Futures in Sonic CD are a different color from each other and we don't have a purple good future I mean we have tidal Tempest which is kind of pink
Stardust speedway would like a word with you
@@CringusMcDingus oh yeah I forgot about that I'm thinking however more of a bluish purple
@@NexusWorks924so blurple?
Lost, just like my dad...
Sounds like a you problem
@@shaulov10 emotional damage fr
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Are you ok, man? 😢
@@shaulov10what’s wrong with you
From Sonic 2 we also have Fire Mountain/Volcano Zone, Neo Death Egg Zone,and a park-themed level which we don't know about except that the concept art was drawn, and Rock World Zone from Ruined Present/Now 2
I have never seen these zones what?
@@shaulov10Fire Mountain/Volcano Zone was after Cyber City Zone and it was in the last visit to past,Neo Death Egg Zone was the final level,Death Egg Zone was after Dust Hill Zone
@@RatchetAndClank14NEO DEATH EGG IS NOT A PARK THEMED LEVEL 💀
@@froggi483 I didn't write that Neo Death Egg Zone is a Park, I wrote that such a level existed and I put a comma,you stupid
Sonic CD was originally going to be a CD port of the original Sega Genesis/Mega Drive game, Sonic The Hedgehog, but it became its own project. Due to this, this led most Sonic CD rounds being based on original Sonic zones, like Palmtree Panic and Collision Chaos are based on Green Hill and Spring Yard Zone, respectively. If that's the case, then R2 should be based on Marble Zone. The name of the zone eventually got revealed which is "Dubious Depths/Ridicule Root". Either name could be an early name for the other, like how Palmtree Panic was originally going to be called "Salad Plain". There are 2 theories on why it was scrapped:
1) It was removed due to space/time constraints, considering how latter Classic Sonic games at the time were receiving less development time compared to the original game it was based on.
2) R2 is unfit for the game's themes/mechanics, so it ended up cut. The game has a time travel mechanic. However, you can't time travel straight away, you have to run, run, and run, in order for it to trigger. Also, despite Sonic The Hedgehog ending up receiving well, it had its fair share of flaws that fans and critics criticize about, like Marble Zone. You start in Green Hill, which is more fast-paced and go-with-the-flow type level, but when you reach Marble Zone, it's more slow-paced, take-your-time, and strategize, also considering how being too fast in the level punishes you especially since you can't see what's ahead of you.
Also, in the 2011 Sonic CD remaster, there was an unused boss known as "Final Fever", which is named after the final boss theme in the JP soundtrack of the same name. It was going to be the game's R9 if you keep the cut R2 level in mind, which was originally going to be triggered once Sonic collected all the 7 Time Stones, which teleports Sonic and Eggman into a plane where time is non-existent, and Eggman brings his robot which is virtually unstoppable by any means, but in order to defeat him, Sonic has to travel to the past where the robot is incomplete, giving Sonic a chance to destroy it. It was removed for the same reasons as the new R2, Desert Dazzle. Also, the concept where Sonic goes to West Island's Hidden Palace to unlock his Super Sonic form. This was recycled for Sonic 3 and Knuckles were after collecting all the 7 Chaos Emeralds in the Sonic 3 levels via giant rings. In the Sonic and Knuckles levels, giant rings are replaced with super rings which takes Sonic to Angel Island's Hidden Palace Zone, in order to transform the Chaos Emeralds into Super Emeralds to unlock the final form, Hyper Sonic.
Theory: The Egg Fleet ships being themed around sea creatures (Shortfin Mako Sharks, Sawfish, Manta Rays, and a Whaleshark) was connected to Final Fortress being underwater.
the production value of this video was a massive unexpected slap to the face compared to your other content regarding Sonic (in a good way), it's definitely worth appreciating, you didn't need to go that hard, yet you did... amazing job.
it's... this was an interesting topic i don't think about too often so i don't really have much to say, but it's definitely fun to think about what these levels could've been if implemented into their final product.
Thanks man. And I always have to go hard on the editing. It was a fun video to make
@@shaulov10bro forgot the other 2 concept zones, one being the laboratory zone and one being a moon-rock zone which was a 2 player level in sonic 1.
@@shaulov10and in one of the concepts r2 had a boss on scratch and not on sprite form, it was different.
If you want to know more, just friend me. (Not because i am a professional. I just know those kind of unused things.)
Fun fact, that hidden palace we saw isn’t that lost. Sonic 2 2013 mobile port restored Hidden Palace Zone, and finished it which is finally playable, BUT if you enter this code: 03, 03, 03, 0B, 10, 10, 10, 04, and selected hidden palace, you can play Proto Palace Zone (which sadly, Sonic Origins removed Proto Palace Zone)
I heard Proto Palace Zone is actually in Origins internally, but they just removed the way to actually access it for...some reason.
Fun Fact: Hidden Palace wasn't actually supposed to be cut. The only reason it went unused in the final game is due to memory limitations.
That's why it's still in the Game by using a cheat device and you can even see its icon for the level select showing how early it was worked on.Though it's pretty much unplayable.
@@luthergaming5789 The reason it's unplayable in the final game is because it got completely removed from the final game. Hidden Palace almost had a chance of actually making it into the game, since it was intact in some of the last betas of Sonic 2. But, they ended up removing it due to memory limitations and in the final build, like you said, there is barely anything (except the music track and level icon) remaining.
There's one more piece of concept art in Sonic Origins where you can see a world map of little planet with R2 visible as being a marble zone type stage
Another correction: Sonic 1's Mountain Zone is just a really early Labyrinth. Labyrinth was going to be almost completely different early in development, and this is what said concept looked like. You also missed Laboratory Zone, which IS a separate Zone from Scrap Brain/Clock Work. This zone wasn't concepted very much other than the pipe gimmick.
Benjy. You fr LOCKED in here. Good job
Thank you Mr mouse
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that the beginning is very hard to watch. I'm not epileptic, but I'm sure the strobing and flashing could cause seizures. Plus, it was very distracting. I do hope that's not something you'll do again, for the safety of others
Edit: it's throughout the video. Please don't do that again.
Fun fact:round 2 on sonic cd is used as a stage in a roblox sonic fan game called sonic expedition
Genocide City and R2 have always been my favorite scrapped zones. I love Genocide City because it shows off a futuristic cyber type of a zone which I find cool. And I’m interested in R2 because I have a vivid memory of playing the 2013 remaster of Sonic CD when I was very young and having access to the zone and to fight the boss as you chased him across the screen.
Some parts of this video are over edited in my opinion
"Early in Sonic 2's development an easter egg involving the time travel mechanic was heavily worked on. The secret involved sonic traveling back in time 10 times in a row with six of the chaos emeralds collected resulting in him being sent to 'mega smegma zone,' a large dark cave with lush scenery that hid primordial humans and strange creatures made of smegma that grunted very realistically. These enemies would want to (as quoted by yuji naka) 'get a wiff of sonic's toesie woesies.' It was ultimately cut due to the strict policy sega had for smega appaearing in their games before exiting the console industry." - Did You Know Gaming, 2021
Sonic Adventure had a scrapped Mushroom Hill stage & Jungle Stage while Sand Hill was intended to be a full stage at 1 point much like Ice Cap according to some source on Sonic Retro I read years ago. Of course it's possible that the devs thought that the Mystic Ruins were getting too much focus as 5/11 Stages are found there in the final game. Personally I believe we didn't stop getting cut zones/stages merely we stopped getting reveals of cut content. Also you should have brought up the Sky Chase Dragon.
I hope we get info of cut content from the Sonic Advance Trilogy & Gamegear games someday. As for Adventure 2 I suspect that the 2P Stage Grind Race may have been assets from a scrapped stage as the others are merely edits of existing 1P Stages. Awesome video!
The editing style isn't bad, but it's overused. The overly serious VHS editing has been used too much times to count, but this was a pretty good attempt at it. And besides some misinformation, the video was entertaining. Keep up the good work 👍
I see. Yeah I like how it turned out but it’s my first time trying this editing style so there 100% room for improvement
in sonic 1 prototype, how is scrap brain usually clock work???
Fun fact: Wood Zone Is Part Of Jungle Zone From Sonic 1 8-bit.
0/10 u forgot cyber station act 2 (imma edit when finishing the video to see if u missed smthn)
Edit: forces actually had some concept art of green hill and an arabian like city in the concept arts of the game so... yeah forces had some things going for it, also, great video, love the editing style!
Well it’s still not a whole level. Cyber station is still in the game, but act 1 and 2 were just combined into one big level I think
Your editing has absolutely no fucking right to go that hard in a Sonic scrapped levels video of all things 💀
No but srsly you're COOKING
Thank you so much. I really wanted This video to give off the black ops vibe so I hope it payed off
It's always cool to see what could have been. But it's always interesting how the process of making levels for a game is very similar to writing songs to go on a music album. So many things get pitched, wrote, demo'd, etc, then you gotta trim it all down to go into the final product. It's like how a movie can have hundreds of pieces of concept art that are just pitches and were never actually officially a part the movie at any point. Just goes to show that creating any kind of art is an ever changing process.
For widy valley, Takeshi Iizuka actually talked about it in an interview : the level was too big and confusing (you guessed right) he also explained that it was him that made the final version xe know today
Was all the black ops style epilepsy worth it? It was annoying and didn't make sense
Yes, yes it was
Did you know if you do a code I forgot the code in the sonic 2 mobile port you can play the Nik arcade version and you need to do the debug code also how you beat the stage is you need to stand on the master emarld and you teleport back to the title screen or emarld hill I forgot
Fun fact, sonic the hedgehog 3 part one was supposed to have flying battery. It’s even in the level select and you can access it in the prototype
The 4chan leak that originally said that Sonic Frontiers (Rangers at the time) was going to be open world said the fourth island was going to be Green Hill if I remember correctly.
Glad it got cut.
There's something deeply fascinating and exciting about the mysterious lost levels/lost media of the Sonic franchise (especially in the Sonic games), in my opinion. My favourite cut content from the Sonic games would equally be the flying saucers from Marble Zone in Sonic 1 and Genocide City Zone from Sonic 2. Just the mere fact that we got a level in Sonic 2 called 'Genocide City Zone' (even though the level was removed) is why the Sonic franchise is better than the Mario franchise in my opinion and I say this as a fan of both Sonic AND Mario. The Mario franchise would NEVER have a level called 'Genocide City Zone' even as a lost level. Sonic has always been a more ballsy franchise than Mario. lol
CAN YOU PLEASE STOP IT WITH THE EFFECTS ON THE SONIC 2 PART DAWG ITS NOT THAT DEEP
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I love the enthusiasm
But i really hate the over editing
Wasn’t there another scraped/cancelled level in the Sonic CD mobile port that was exactly like Titanic Monarch in Sonic Mania? Made by Christian Whitehead? I remember seeing a picture of it back then.
You mean Final Fever?
@@RatchetAndClank14 Yeah.
The true crime editing made me think one of these levels was a rapist
LMAO WHAT?
Ah, the lost sonic 06 level, right before elise kissed sonic
Man I gotta step UP my editing holy- this was dope!
Nah bro your videos are another level man.
You should have mentioned that the Tileset for Genocide City was later used in the third stage of Sonic Spinball "The Machine"
Damn I forgot to mention that
They should make a game called Sonic the hedgehog: Lost levels released in japan and then everywhere else one day after, including EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. EVER. Scrapped, non playable or not.
ngl if an alternate timeline where sega and nintendo swap places, there might be a classic game that's supposed to be the japanese version of sonic 2 called sonic lost levels and will get remade for origins
the only game that has a similiar title is sonic lost world
Fourth comment: 20:32 Not too sure, but i’m pretty sure Genocide city was in 06 and generations (released MUCH later 06 in 2006 and Gens in 2010)
Third comment: 4:03 the song was used in a roblox game called “Sonic script test”, it ends up playing faster and faster as you speed up. Wanna know how i know? I recognized it.
When did the editing get so good?
I just decided to cook
Sonic 1 is pvz sonic 2 is pvz 2 5:30
5th comment: yeah, wood zone was changed to mushroom, but it’s also like a wood zone hybrid. So… mushroom woods zone act 1 & 2?
Your wording in the desert section seemed really confused and you mispronounced Hydrocity but this was a mostly well put together video
I could do without all the flashing though
If Genocide City is a futuristic metropolis, then what is this sonic 2 level I've seen of a stormy city with chained skeletons on the walls and chemical plant's enemies and boss?
EDIT: I’ve figured out that it’s a reimagining of the zone from Sonic 2 Long Version to suit the name more
Fun Fact: it was actually recycled to Sonic Spinball's The Machine
"Genocide City" in 2014: dark, stormy, skeletons, torture
"Genocide City" in 2024: *purple Metropolis*
@@harrybest2041 I honestly prefer the old one, but metropolis doesn't look too bad in purple
This is my second comment and i have played, not many sonic games cuz i cant afford a pc, switch, or console (xbox, ps, so on so forth)
bro found out after effects exists
nice work lol
Lol I don’t use after affects
Correction: Wood Zone is playable in an unfinished form in the Simon Wai build of Sonic 2, not Nick Arcade.
Bro sonic 2 is a mess, the one I would've loved to see in the final game is the Death Egg, I've seen some idiots because that's what they are that say "HEY, IF I HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE DEATH EGG FROM SONIC 2 AND SONIC 3, I LIKE SONIC 2 MORE" and I'm like it's just a re-color from Chemical Plant, but I really would loved that base in the space idea, and also talking about R2 or Dubious Depths/ Ridicule Root/ Desert Dazzle whatever, I think another comment already tells this but CD is like another version of Sonic 1, and Palmtree Panic is Green Hill, R2 is Marble Zone, Collision Chaos is Spring Yard (I like to call it Sparkling xd), Tidal Tempest is Labyrinth, etc; So yeah and also for the fact that cd was originally a port for sonic 1 to the sega cd, and well they scrapped marble zone from sonic cd version, and also the sonic 1 special stage for sonic cd version (which I believe, are re-imagined as the bonus stages in sonic superstars), so yeah that's it
If all the cut stages were in Sonic 2 Sonic origins and r2 and desert dazzle was in Sonic CD Sonic origins and the beta Kronos Island and the original windy valley and Sonic adventure these games would have been amazing and why couldn't they make a DLC for Sonic origins called the levels that could make it will they put all the cut stages from Sonic 1 2 and CD in Sonic originally and I didn't know that wood zone eventually turned into mushroom Hill zone for Sonic 3 & knuckles but at least hidden Palace got into the final game and beta Kronos would make great DLC for Sonic frontiers (I just mentioned that)
according to early scripts of heroes, there was originally going to be a christmas themed level in place of frog forest
Ummm what the sigma
What In the sigma
@@shaulov10 what thy sigma
2:52 it was actually presented MUCH before Origins
I dont remember the exact source, but if you check out Tetrabits Lost Bits on Sonic CD, he shows the original source of it
Nice video man. The glitching effect being used that frequently was a bit annoying and there was some stuff that wasn’t 100% accurate but besides that,it’s a very cool and fun video.
1:00 golden capital was in sonic superstars
Watch like 10 more seconds into the video
12:09 well big was meant to be in that level too so he probably has an unused version of the level so that can be considered a lost level.
7:46 Incorrect, its only in the simon wai and august 21 prototypes. Although they are exactly the same.
Also at 8:23 , you put dust hill and not sand shower. Dust hill was mystic cave before being changed to.. mystic cave. It was the ruined version of green/emerald hill, hence the name.
For Sonic Adventure 1 Egg Carrier was meant to have a 4th act but it was cut also Twinkle Park was meant to look different and Tails was meant to have it as a playable level
A few editing mistakes and wrong info but overall it was very well documented! Nice job dude! Can't wait to see more 💙
Dude I don’t really like the unnecessary creepy sounds and small clips. Could Probaly turn away potentially young audience.
6th and final comment: im pretty sure windy hill is still in SA1
Did Windy Valley have any beta names? I wanna include the stage in a fanfic but as a separate location from Adventure's release version.
Can you chill with the unnecessary glitch effects? The intro to the sonic 2 segment had me almost rolling my eyes lol
The video is good enough, but the effects really get intrusive, especially on rewatch.
SONIC O ORUIÇO
I’m happy Golden Capital was brought back in Superstars, and while I’m probably one the few people who love that game I was a little disappointed that it ended up being another lame collision chaos bumper-type level where you just bounce all over the place
So true. It’s definitely my least favorite level in the game. Wish they had more of that south Asian influence instead of a golden casino
Also another thing back in the first ever version of Sonic CD palmtree panic was named salad plain.
3:47 the bad future is from an album called Techno Power mix iirc
You should've pointed that out
why bro glazing it, its just levels, this aint no crime scene brother 💀
jokes aside, pretty informative video, really surprised to know nothing was cut from heros and onwards until frontiers
Wym, we have to know about the victims of green hill
Heroes has a removed level, wtf. I've played since 2007 and never known about it.
Please put an epilepsy warning! The cursed little transitions could be really rough for people with epilepsy.
Fun fact. In sonic forces there’s an achievement called Sonic & the secret levels
How to get the achievement
Interesting
@@DylanDemarkus you have to complete all the secret levels that can be unlocked throughout story progression
@@DylanDemarkus you have to beat all secret levels that get unlocked through story progression
@@DylanDemarkuscomplete all the secret levels
Dubious Depths (R2) Its My Favorite Cut Level
Fun fact: in the sonic 30th anniversary book has tropical sunshine zone
In my mind theres alot of information of dubious depths i wish i could make it a mod but idk how to program
I don’t know why in palmatree panic says so much yay
I want a Sonic game with stages representing different parts of the Sonic universe.
South Island: Green Hill.
Mirage Island(4.2): Sylvania Castle
West Side Island: Hilltop
Little Planet: Rainbow Ruins (Scrapped R2)
Islands as a whole: Bridge Zone+Pine Trees. Island Rush.
Islander Civilization: City, Sonic Forces, but without the wanton destruction and rampaging Death Egg Sentinels.
Human Civilization: Skyscraper Scamper
Eggman: I'd like a stage that's red and grey with caution tape, but let's just go with Chemical Plant for now. It's so damn recurring.
Angel Island: Sky Sanctuary(Flying Ruins gets Angel Island's core idea across pretty well)
Lost Hex: Hidden World
11:09 It looks like a Purple Scrap Brain Zone. So... Eggman Empire Fortress?
Little Planet Bad Future gives me Danganronpa vibes.
I like the video editing, you made the video enjoyable to watch.
Love Call of Duty Black Ops reference at the start of the video
Got this shit edited like a true crime video 😭😭😭
This was officially confirmed by Sega themselves the zone was actually called dubious depths Which is basically R2 From sonic CD
Naoto Ohshima not sega
Fun fact:
The developer Mazin (Yes the guy who made the fun is infinite art) already told the zone name... I forgor tho, but its leaked tho :D
Wasn’t it dubious depths
Wood zone is not in the nick arcade prototype. Its in the simon wai prototype
That's awesome You went over all these cut stages. I definitely was aware of hidden Palace zone but I wasn't aware that there were so many zones cut from Sonic 2 that would end up being used in later Sonic games including 25 years later in Sonic mania. That's awesome
9:53 to me alone, this zone still reminds me of hydrocity from Sonic 3
7:48 that’s not the Nick Arcade Prototype it’s the Simon Wai Prototype
Hidden palace is still accessible on mobile or tablet variants of sonic 2
Sonic 1 concepts is as mysterious as Zelda Ocarina of Time.
glad youtube brought me here
Welcome
There was originally a turtle sidekick instead of tails
Hidden Palace is in Sonic Origins now. In Mystic Cave zone one of the Bottomless pits will take you to Hidden Palace Zone.
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