Super Pershing vs King Tiger Duel 1945

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  • It's one of the great tank duels of World War II, when an American Super Pershing went head-to-head with the dreaded German King Tiger in Dessau in April 1945. But did they? The truth is surprisingly different.
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  • @hr_nissen4490
    @hr_nissen4490 5 років тому +2455

    Soo sad that the only tank of its kind were scrap, would have been epic to see it in bovington tank museum!

    • @johnblackstone5261
      @johnblackstone5261 5 років тому +132

      Almost all weapons of war wind up in the trash eventually.

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 5 років тому +187

      You have to place yourself in that era. Every country was tired of the war and an immediate need for (metal) consumer goods came up. Nobody cared about the tanks,battleships,guns and whatnot which were at the time new gear but useless in peacetime. The thought of placing some examples in a museum obviously came to no one's mind and would probably have been regarded as proposterous, inappropriate even. The war was over and war production came to an immediate and screeching halt. A whole lot of cars,razorblades,refrigerators and tin cans etc. etc. could be made out of a few tanks....

    • @MONTANI12
      @MONTANI12 5 років тому +25

      @@thetankcommander3838 wait there is still one left?!?!?!

  • @howiebouthat3435
    @howiebouthat3435 5 років тому +7450

    Super Pershings barrel is so long it was in Germany 2 weeks before the rest of the tank

    • @abisairuiz8312
      @abisairuiz8312 5 років тому +141

      lmao

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 5 років тому +399

      If it went into Luxembourg the barrel would be in Germany while the rear of the tank was still in Belgium.
      You wouldn't want to hit the brakes to hard as there is nothing to stop it tipping forward.

    • @annoyed707
      @annoyed707 5 років тому +135

      The last time I was this early, I was the tip of a Super Pershing's gun barrel.

    • @whispofwords2590
      @whispofwords2590 5 років тому +48

      Lol how did they even balance that thing?

    • @MasterMalrubius
      @MasterMalrubius 5 років тому +18

      That's what I feel like when I see notification of a new Felton video.

  • @kenmeri5832
    @kenmeri5832 5 років тому +2710

    I love how you do these kinds of lesser known events, instead of the boring old "top 5 German tanks". Great work

    • @geennaam2712
      @geennaam2712 5 років тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/myUSjTz-Imc/v-deo.html

    • @renaultr3565
      @renaultr3565 5 років тому +101

      Agreed, although we already know the top five German tanks.
      1. Tiger
      2. Tiger
      3. Tiger
      4. Tiger
      5. Tiger

    • @dimvalsgames9721
      @dimvalsgames9721 5 років тому +12

      Kenmeri I agree the guy is a Legend awesome fresh vids and great stories you learn a lot from Mark...!

  • @thedoritomlg
    @thedoritomlg 4 роки тому +303

    Allied engineer's yoinked plates off a panther for extra armor

  • @hashteraksgage3281
    @hashteraksgage3281 5 років тому +3688

    Panzer IV:Exists
    American tank crew:
    A Tiger!

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 5 років тому +173

      Army Air Corps- 'target practice!'

    • @franzfanz
      @franzfanz 5 років тому +266

      Chalmers: You call Panzer IVs "Tigers"?
      Skinner: Yes, it's a regional dialect.
      Chalmers: Uh-huh. What region?
      Skinner: Uh, upstate New York.
      Chalmers: Really? Well, I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone call Panzer IVs "Tigers."
      Skinner: Oh, not in Utica, no, it's an Albany expression.

    • @whoareyou1034
      @whoareyou1034 5 років тому +107

      I think the idea that Germany was made of Tiger 1s come from this. I mean, they have similar silhouettes from a distance.

    • @hasmatiks
      @hasmatiks 5 років тому +90

      @l b Indeed. And to add to that: You often just see a part of the tank. Panzer 4 was the most numerous tank of the Germans, and it does look similar to a Tiger I from certain angles. Especially, as mentioned before, if you cant see the whole thing.

    • @whispofwords2590
      @whispofwords2590 5 років тому +37

      Tigers in the trees man..tigers in the trees.

  • @josynaemikohler6572
    @josynaemikohler6572 4 роки тому +569

    Super Pershing vs King Tiger duel most likely:
    Both break down.

  • @spencernelson1560
    @spencernelson1560 5 років тому +229

    Its heartbreaking how many of these videos end with the words "it was scrapped".

  • @jpetty7772
    @jpetty7772 5 років тому +657

    "It's not very SEXY" Best line I've ever heard a historian say, I love when you provide more commentary rather then just scripted dialogue. Anyways another great video Mark, thank you.

  • @sylvainfalquet6350
    @sylvainfalquet6350 5 років тому +480

    What I love about Mark's videos is that he uses the ACTUAL images and footage of the specific thing that relate to what he is talking about. Other history videos use pictures that don't even relate or are outright wrong.

  • @bbcmotd
    @bbcmotd 4 роки тому +1755

    I want the Tiger!
    Americans: we have a Tiger at home already.
    Tiger at home: Pz 38 (t)

  • @Brez6645
    @Brez6645 5 років тому +80

    The HE shot must have been the equivalent of the paintball in Kelly's Heroes.

  • @KoKissaki
    @KoKissaki 5 років тому +1033

    Imagine to be a german soldier in 1945... „US Forces are here, we need armored support now!! Sorry mate, but our last Tiger fighting the reds 70 km in the east“.

    • @spdfatomicstructure
      @spdfatomicstructure 5 років тому +72

      *112km

    • @leooram1959
      @leooram1959 5 років тому +106

      “sorry bro, wrong front, but oh well, the other front is not that far you may as well have them drive over here”

  • @Idaho-Cowboy
    @Idaho-Cowboy 5 років тому +2000

    Typical HE spamming Noobs in their Tier 8 premiums...

    • @dfadgsadfga1816
      @dfadgsadfga1816 5 років тому +105

      But HE does more damage man.

    • @Collectorfirearms
      @Collectorfirearms 5 років тому +46

      @@dfadgsadfga1816 lol not with high pen tanks

    • @johannsebastianbach9003
      @johannsebastianbach9003 5 років тому +36

      I rather choose AP than HE for sure kill

    • @belliott538
      @belliott538 5 років тому +23

      Hell at least they didn't have a "Festively Colored" Paint Round loaded... 😁

    • @sadfrog5787
      @sadfrog5787 5 років тому +8

      @@dfadgsadfga1816 Not anymore HE does fuck all now

  • @marks_sparks1
    @marks_sparks1 5 років тому +14

    Mark Felton makes the best history snippets going. Short, easy to understand, non partisan and always on a lesser detail. Excellent work

  • @whispofwords2590
    @whispofwords2590 5 років тому +146

    Yu know from a distance, through the limited sights of a tank, I could kinda see how you could mistake a tiger for a panzer, assuming they didn't examen the wreck afterwards.

    • @bbbabrock
      @bbbabrock 5 років тому +15

      I always thought Tigers look like Fours. Both are boxy w the fronts and glaci l plates being straight on vertical. King Tigers and Panthers look like T-34s w their armour sloped.

    • @alfnoakes392
      @alfnoakes392 5 років тому +28

      Yup, have to agree. The boxy extra plate added to late panzer IVs gives them the same shape as the Tigers, and being only 2/3 the size is difficult to spot at a distance through a tanks limited sighting options.

  • @rasczak7745
    @rasczak7745 5 років тому +205

    "Mismatch of German armor" nah man you just got an uptier to 6.7

  • @davidrapalyea7727
    @davidrapalyea7727 5 років тому +224

    This is an excellent presentation both detailed and concise. It's also a fun idiosyncratic topic and I could watch these sort of properly timed videos all day!

  • @willykaranikolas2391
    @willykaranikolas2391 4 роки тому +225

    "which by any stretch of the imagination seems to be an incredibly stupid thing to have done"
    "a superpershing taking out a PzIV is not very sexy"
    Great quotes from this one Mark!

  • @SNP-1999
    @SNP-1999 5 років тому +28

    These short but highly informative videos are definitely the best of what is being shown on YT regarding WWII !The great research and understanding of the subject and statement of the historical facts by Mark Felton is second to none. 😘

  • @fkerpants
    @fkerpants 3 роки тому +7

    Felton: "...anyway, back to the action in Dessau..."
    (Sipping my coffee, my eyes remain locked on the screen.)
    Me: "Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back to the action."
    Mark, you're the guy telling cool stories around the campfire/in the classroom/at the table/etc. Never a bad story and I always come away knowing something I didn't. I know I've said it in other places, but I'll say it again. THANK YOU! :)

  • @herbwag6456
    @herbwag6456 5 років тому +211

    Probably the WW2 equivalent of Steven Spielberg was writing those fairy tale combat reports.

    • @howardwalker1952
      @howardwalker1952 5 років тому +5

      Herb Wag hi Herb .... yes I agree well said 😁

  • @shellsbignumber2
    @shellsbignumber2 5 років тому +24

    These videos are like gold dust, keep up the good work. I have learnt so many interesting things from watching them.

  • @battleship217
    @battleship217 5 років тому +109

    Boy if there is an afterlife specifically for tanks that Pazer IV would get laughed at for how it died,

  • @darklingeraeld-ridge7946
    @darklingeraeld-ridge7946 5 років тому +15

    Outstanding video again - so good to hear such clarity about what is known and unknown. And superb footage.

  • @Jermster_91
    @Jermster_91 5 років тому +126

    After watching hundreds of videos on this channel, I ordered a book by Mark, Guarding Hitler: The Secret World of the Führer.

  • @davidosalsero2519
    @davidosalsero2519 4 роки тому +4

    Mark, as others have said - excellent work, a brilliant format. Short and compelling events, low voiced factually unemotional delivery, hair-tingling intro theme music, standard crisp sign-off, and of course above-all apparently thoroughly researched subjects with relevant historical clips to endorse your commentaries. There's not a time when I watch your work that a cold sweat doesn't seep down the back of my neck. Truly putting us the viewer into the position of the characters, mostly unseen, that made these scenes happen. It's that which most stamps your work as both sober and outstanding. May we all learn from it. You have rightly made a recognised niche for yourself and the product. Indeed, keep up this fascinating work. Thanks, David Whyman.

  • @marioncobaretti2280
    @marioncobaretti2280 4 роки тому +34

    i cant believe they didnt ship that super pershing home! that would be a great piece of history to have today!

  • @gixxerlouis
    @gixxerlouis 4 роки тому +183

    I thought I saw a king tiger in the streets of America once...upon closer inspection I realized it was rosie O’Donnell wearing a camo jacket...

  • @howardwalker1952
    @howardwalker1952 5 років тому +6

    Thanks Mark I truly admire the fact that your integrity in keeping as much as you could to what may or may not have taken place here, was not displaced by years of confusion and or propaganda.

  • @Trillock-hy1cf
    @Trillock-hy1cf 5 років тому +12

    I think we all very much appreciate the time, effort and research that goes into making your videos for us to enjoy and learn from.

  • @onebritishboi9892
    @onebritishboi9892 5 років тому +9

    i genuinely love this channel. Keep up the amazing work mark :)

  • @TG_1027
    @TG_1027 4 роки тому +436

    Kubelwagen: *passes by*
    Americans: TIGER!!!!

  • @renelogtenberg141
    @renelogtenberg141 5 років тому +3

    Brilliant how you always find out those unknown facts. Thanks Dr. Felton. You almost make such a film each day. Brilliant.

  • @filipdavkov3936
    @filipdavkov3936 5 років тому +11

    I saw that documentary and heard that story, but newer beleived in it. Thank you for clearing things up. Tumbs up for your chanel, keep up the good work.

  • @pattifunkhouse2932
    @pattifunkhouse2932 5 років тому +3

    Brilliant as always Mark. Thanks for your focus on armoured combat. As a veteran of the BC regiment, Duke of Connaught’s own, it is very much appreciated. Regimental lore often spoke of the power of the FireFly and it’s awesome 17 pounder gun. A topic I am sure you will explore in detail. Cheers from Canada

  • @RedSoxDad01
    @RedSoxDad01 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the depth and quality of your reviews on the T26 activity at the end of WW2. It is a pleasure to watch the videos you have complied on this often misreported topic.

  • @vincevandergoes2362
    @vincevandergoes2362 5 років тому +9

    Fantastic video Mark and thanks for bringing your unbiased and factual information one again.
    According to the book “Death Traps” the Super Pershing had problems with over heating due to the additional armour they had placed on it from the scavenged Panther tank and the boiler plates which then increased its weight. On rugged ground it was not as efficient and needed constant maintenance but on open country became more reliable.
    Love your work.

  • @JNF590
    @JNF590 5 років тому +5

    Thanks for the Upload just what I need.

  • @danielsalas9201
    @danielsalas9201 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for all your videos. The information that you provide is an inspiration to anyone that is interested in real history and not just the watered down version thank you

  • @autorotate1803
    @autorotate1803 5 років тому +6

    I just discovered your channel! Amazing content for ww2 buffs. Every educational, thank you!

  • @buzzkillington8078
    @buzzkillington8078 5 років тому +1

    Aha! Another quality video, with two of the most know tanks in history. Great job once again Mark! Keep 'em coming!

  • @charliemanson4808
    @charliemanson4808 5 років тому +4

    Ahhh a little bit of history with Mark on a Friday evening after just sitting down, good timing!
    Charlie 🇬🇧

  • @ronniefarnsworth6465
    @ronniefarnsworth6465 5 років тому +40

    Any Tank can Knock out another Tank in WWll waiting in Ambush, it doesn't tell much about either one , you need months of head to head Combat to find out !!!

  • @ScreechingPossum
    @ScreechingPossum 5 років тому +25

    I remember looking up, ages ago, the clip from "Greatest Tank Battles: Germany" (I think...) about this story and seeing in the comments about how it was a myth.
    Thank you for going into such great detail about it and possible explanations.

  • @thewarbaron
    @thewarbaron 5 років тому +2

    Makes me so happy to see that there is a new video!

  • @Frank-wf6iw
    @Frank-wf6iw 5 років тому +2

    Absolutely fasincating.
    I was under the impression that the super pershing was made but wasn't deployed to the front in time. I'm exceptionally glad you made this video it has cleares a lot for me. Thank you

  • @CarlsonWDane
    @CarlsonWDane 5 років тому +1

    Thanks Mark, love your videos. Its so sad to see how many vehicles justs get scraped, especially those of limited production.

  • @colesy4971
    @colesy4971 5 років тому

    i still don't know how i found your channel but it's bloody well the best thing that's happened to me in a while

  • @technonoises
    @technonoises 5 років тому +3

    A fascinating video, thank you for the upload.

  • @igorkovcin7112
    @igorkovcin7112 5 років тому +1

    How much you knew about history is just incredible. I dont have words to describe quality of your videos.

  • @boaz708
    @boaz708 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for a great video, very informative and a pleasure to watch.

  • @3452te
    @3452te 5 років тому +21

    Yesss :D
    Love hearing a video about the Super Parsing & King Tiger. These heavy tanks are truly Land Ironclads. Keep up the awesome work.

    • @TheMotorick
      @TheMotorick 5 років тому +1

      Did you watch the video? He concludes that it couldn't have been a King Tiger.

    • @praisetheomnissiah4475
      @praisetheomnissiah4475 5 років тому +5

      @@TheMotorick He said he likes hearing about them and learning more about them. Doesn't mean he thinks it was a king tiger. Didn't you read his comment?

  • @greatflights8094
    @greatflights8094 5 років тому +5

    I always like Mark’s videos before I watch as I know I will like it.

  • @guyb30
    @guyb30 5 років тому +3

    Love this Channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @jmantime
    @jmantime 5 років тому +692

    American Tanker ( sees Panzer II tank ) : IT'S A MINI-TIGER !!!
    *Destroys panzer II*
    American Tanker: ( "v") Yeah imma badass , count that one as another tiger bob ..

  • @lojey
    @lojey 5 років тому +4

    Love your Videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @VengineerGER
    @VengineerGER 5 років тому

    You always have the most interesting topics at hand, good work.

  • @motorTranz
    @motorTranz 5 років тому

    Great video Dr. Felton. Thanks.

  • @landonthompson-tschimperle3964
    @landonthompson-tschimperle3964 5 років тому

    Congratulations Dr. Felton on the impressive growth of your channel.

  • @redrackham6812
    @redrackham6812 5 років тому +3

    This is quite interesting, so thank you very much for posting it. I do have a quibble, though. You say around 2:20 that the Super Pershing's 90mm M3 gun was similar in hitting power to the 8.8cm KwK 36 on the Tiger I. That is true, with a big asterisk, of the guns on the regular Pershings, which were 53 calibers in length, as compared to the Tiger I guns, which were 88mm and 56 calibers in length. The asterisk there is that, firing HVAP rounds, the 90mm M3 actually had penetrating power more comparable to the 8.8 cm KwK 43, the gun on the King Tiger, which was 71 calibers in length. The Super Pershing, however, had a variant of the 90mm M3 that was 73 calibers in length, making it more comparable to the 8.8 KwK 43. With HVAP rounds, however, its penetrating power was actually significantly better than even the KwK 43.

  • @javiervonsydow
    @javiervonsydow 4 роки тому +1

    Mr. Felton, excellent as always; thank you so much for your British professionalism!

  • @allenhigginbotham3740
    @allenhigginbotham3740 5 років тому +1

    Great video and information. Thank you Mark for this interesting story

  • @QuantumPyrite_88.9
    @QuantumPyrite_88.9 4 роки тому +1

    What an excellent and very well researched documentary . Thank you very much .

  • @m10bob22
    @m10bob22 5 років тому

    Another excellent post!...Thank you.

  • @Lithium9672
    @Lithium9672 5 років тому +6

    We are getting less "thats a story for another time" and more "I made a film about this", I like this change keep up the good work

  • @MrMogulvogl
    @MrMogulvogl 4 роки тому

    Thanks to you, nice episode. Great channel!

  • @trickpatrickpa4855
    @trickpatrickpa4855 5 років тому

    Very detailed information as always, much appreciated

  • @Weltspiele
    @Weltspiele 5 років тому

    Some say ist was an "Panzerkampfwagen 1" ;-) brilliant work Mr. Felton! I love your channel! History at its best!

  • @the82spartans62
    @the82spartans62 5 років тому

    I like the way you say 'scraped', with such disdain and disgust. Any tank that was involved in battles like this deserved to be kept in museums. Cheers and keep up the great work.

  • @TheGreatest1974
    @TheGreatest1974 5 років тому +1

    Hi mark. I have watched a few of your films now and I think what you do is absolutely brilliant. Your many types of programme are extremely interesting and educational. I also think your narration sounds even better than Tim piggot smith and that’s saying something! You should be doing tv work. I thoroughly enjoy everything I’ve seen of yours. Keep up the great work. Brian.

  • @haviiithelegogunner907
    @haviiithelegogunner907 5 років тому

    As always: superb! Thank you!

  • @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
    @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting mark, well done.

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 5 років тому +5

    Well done again! I know the "Super-Pershing" but I didn't know that it did do some action and I too doubt that it has encountered the Königstiger as it was such a rare beast in the west! Already the normal Pershing was generally considered by it's crew quite sluggish to handle but with the very long 90mm cannon and added armour how did it handle? Interesting story!

  • @brucekaraus7330
    @brucekaraus7330 5 років тому +2

    Brilliant historical detective work sir, Well done,

  • @SoftyWalterGames
    @SoftyWalterGames 5 років тому +1

    Your videos never cease to entertain

  • @lewiscliffe434
    @lewiscliffe434 5 років тому +1

    Excellent as always!

  • @airraid9614
    @airraid9614 5 років тому +5

    What are the 2 cylinders on the top left of the turret for

  • @phbrinsden
    @phbrinsden 5 років тому +1

    Is there a way for me to add a “brilliant as always. Interesting, instructive and accurate” to all your vids. It would save a lot of my time yet add accolades where always earned and due.

  • @MagnumGreenPanther
    @MagnumGreenPanther 5 років тому

    Excellent video Mark!

  • @hasdrubal121
    @hasdrubal121 5 років тому +1

    Fantastic vids Mark, gutted to hear it was scrapped.

  • @Dominooooo
    @Dominooooo 4 роки тому +1

    Love your work, Sir. Its all about war history and thats how we liked it.

  • @totenkopf1479
    @totenkopf1479 5 років тому +9

    Such good German pronunciation, don't know why other youtubers cant do it

  • @RasPutintheGreat
    @RasPutintheGreat 5 років тому +25

    Amazing as always.l, if possible can you do Philippines during WWII.
    Thanks

  • @Lappmogel
    @Lappmogel 5 років тому

    Thanks for clearing things up!

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 5 років тому

    Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

  • @USCTrojansOwn
    @USCTrojansOwn 4 роки тому +2

    Loved that “ back to the action” mark lol

  • @breesco
    @breesco 5 років тому

    Another great presentation!

  • @MajorEasley
    @MajorEasley 5 років тому +1

    I love you and all your documentaries. 👍👍👍

  • @kstreet7438
    @kstreet7438 5 років тому +1

    Another great video to watch thank you

  • @Top_Weeb
    @Top_Weeb 5 років тому +43

    "It was scrapped." - Mark Felton

  • @jmartin9785
    @jmartin9785 5 років тому +1

    Man! What a story, that Super Pershing came to town totin a gun! Kickin arse and taking names! Hit in the bottom, the armor just worked in reverse keeping the energy in! Must have just vaporized the German crew! Ugh! That’s war!Thanks Mark, over and over, great films! That one German soldier sure looked scared. Hope he made it! 🙀Lol!

  • @libertyvilleguy2903
    @libertyvilleguy2903 4 роки тому

    Amazing level of research. Bravo Dr. Felton.

  • @darthvader4316
    @darthvader4316 5 років тому

    Excellent! As always!

  • @williammiller8317
    @williammiller8317 5 років тому

    Great video Mark!

  • @rondickson7906
    @rondickson7906 4 роки тому

    All your videos are cool😎. Lots of WW ll info I did not know . Keep um coming 👍🏻

  • @vz-v
    @vz-v 4 роки тому +7

    They were so paranoid they saw tiger tanks everywhere, that's pretty crazy the psychological effect it had.

  • @GeneralBurkhalter1
    @GeneralBurkhalter1 5 років тому +3

    Another great video! Its not surprising to hear that the incident was hyper-inflated, but its good fiction none the less.

  • @Justice094
    @Justice094 5 років тому +32

    Saddening how such a piece of history ended up being scrapped.

  • @blank557
    @blank557 5 років тому +1

    I just read "Spearhead" a biography of Sherman tank Gunner in Europe. He later was assigned to one of the few Pershing tanks, and was in the duel with the Panther at Cologne that was recorded on film. In his late age he met with a former German tank crewman whose Mark IV tank he disabled, and they became fast friends. It's a excellent book, chock full of details of what it was like to ride and fight in a tank. Plenty accounts of tense battles, along with many sad moments seeing his friends killed. If you are a tank buff, I promise you will you'll like it.

  • @richf8972
    @richf8972 4 роки тому

    Very well done, thank you!