The Swedish King Tiger

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Discover the full story of how Sweden obtained a rare German King Tiger in 1947 and its ultimate fate.
    Dr. Mark Felton is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.o...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 861

  • @muwuny
    @muwuny 5 років тому +1587

    "WE NEED IT IN PERFECT RUNNING CONDITION!"
    *blows it up*

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1 5 років тому +3811

    So the Swedes wanted to see what had become of their iron ore.

    • @skalgrimfellaxe5796
      @skalgrimfellaxe5796 5 років тому +128

      Haha yes.

    • @AlexanderCorinUC79vSK
      @AlexanderCorinUC79vSK 5 років тому +560

      @Stig.A.Filmsnutter If you read up on history you would know that Sweden sold Iron Ore to germany during WW2. They shipped it through Sweden down to Malmö, where they sailed it down to german ports.

    • @niko.h3m384
      @niko.h3m384 5 років тому +275

      @Stig.A.Filmsnutter check ur own facts

    • @edirt
      @edirt 5 років тому +9

      Look at what we produced at the time, we realy needed the inspiration.

    • @dfwai7589
      @dfwai7589 5 років тому +181

      @Stig.A.Filmsnutter love idiots like you, spout off about something you only know a trivial amount of knowledge about and in process call people who know more than you about it foolish or stupid.

  • @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
    @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 5 років тому +1930

    It's too bad they destroyed it. What a piece of history.

    • @Le-Cardinal
      @Le-Cardinal 5 років тому +98

      Erik Stenberg They tried it out, but it quickly broke down, and they had no spares. IIRC one of the axis broke in half. They used it for target practice afterwards.

    • @multitoolish
      @multitoolish 5 років тому +168

      @@Le-Cardinal that's what machinist are for. Not like it was an alien ship. It was basic metal and machine works.

    • @chairmeme6231
      @chairmeme6231 5 років тому +63

      A priceless piece of history

    • @anton.s7740
      @anton.s7740 5 років тому +35

      The Americans destroyed hundreds of german tanks, and the Russians,

    • @morrighanwermarn-arnburg7333
      @morrighanwermarn-arnburg7333 5 років тому +36

      They should have used the burned out one for the firing tests. Better yet, just get a 120mm steel plate for firing tests.

  • @justrandomcarsurbex3057
    @justrandomcarsurbex3057 5 років тому +637

    As a swede, I found this really intressting, I did know we got our hands on some Panthers but never heard about a King Tiger. Thanks for the video!

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 5 років тому +23

      shame it was scrapped like so many others.

    • @gingervsginger7305
      @gingervsginger7305 5 років тому

      Know mannen inte now

    • @VRichardsn
      @VRichardsn 5 років тому +8

      _I did know we got our hands on some Panthers_
      There is a video floating around of a Panther making a mockery of a Sherman and a Churchill in mobility tests.

    • @anderslennqvist6168
      @anderslennqvist6168 5 років тому +8

      It should be clear that in opposition to the dearming between the wars, now Sweden was seriously interested in finding out how good defense against the hardware available in the rest of the world we could mount. Just as described in the video, it was (like in other situations) used to test tank busting weapons on. Putting a foreign tank on museum was not a prime...

  • @stephen9869
    @stephen9869 5 років тому +1810

    *Moral of story: Never give a rare and interesting tank to Sweeden!!......*

    • @youngcynical3084
      @youngcynical3084 5 років тому +23

      @Andy Proper i thought the E-100 was not completed

    • @rand0m0mg
      @rand0m0mg 5 років тому +57

      It was used for development of Bofors heavy weapons, the finest in the world.

  • @scepticalwalker3984
    @scepticalwalker3984 5 років тому +71

    Sweden has produced very good armor and excellent anti-tank weapons since 1945, maybe thanks to the King Tiger. For example, Sweden’s Leopard 2 tanks have improved turret armor. They look identical to german army tanks but the armor is different

  • @persson882
    @persson882 5 років тому +333

    thank god we gave back the panther tank to the german and dident blow it up (im from sweden)

  • @kvdodenburg2031
    @kvdodenburg2031 5 років тому +755

    How sad that the Swedes destroyed their Tiger. I bet they wish they had it now.

    • @JohnDoe-ee6qs
      @JohnDoe-ee6qs 5 років тому +172

      K V Dodenburg well they at the moment arw busy destroying their country

    • @dynamo8846
      @dynamo8846 5 років тому +9

      K V Dodenburg I wish we had it now

    • @dynamo8846
      @dynamo8846 5 років тому +40

      We could use it as target practice for all the grenades in Malmö

    • @Jotgut
      @Jotgut 5 років тому +40

      I really dont know whats with Nazis on Mark's channel. This guy has literal SS Insignia as his picture

    • @awkwarddoggo05
      @awkwarddoggo05 5 років тому +9

      It would be worth Millions and it would make millions by being displayed in a museum

  • @MrRjh63
    @MrRjh63 4 роки тому +231

    WG: "Oh boy another tiger we can sell as a premium but for swedish crews"

  • @apocalypticsurvivor1881
    @apocalypticsurvivor1881 5 років тому +2255

    lets buy a rare german tank and destroy it

    • @BHuang92
      @BHuang92 5 років тому +530

      Swedes: We want a King Tiger
      French: Here you go
      "shows burnt King Tiger"
      Swedes: We want a *functional* King Tiger
      Later......
      French: We found one
      Swedes: Thank you! We'll just use it to blow shit on it!
      French: *What?*

    • @lucahindelang5237
      @lucahindelang5237 5 років тому +65

      U idiot back then it was just a tank nothing special

    • @tobiaszistler
      @tobiaszistler 5 років тому +32

      BHuang92 exactly the same i thought...

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 5 років тому +46

      After going through a huge hassle to drag it through the woods. No wonder they didn't fight in WWII, no one would take them as an ally.

    • @Krapfelapfen
      @Krapfelapfen 5 років тому +3

      @August Dahlström unfortunately same with Germany now...

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 5 років тому +12

    Very interesting.
    BTW - that 'fake' train' noise at 3:32 semi-freaked me out (I had headphones on). I had no idea what the noise was or where it was coming from. LOL.

  • @scottfabel7492
    @scottfabel7492 5 років тому +19

    Wow, incredible photos of the journey to Sweden. Thanks for sharing! I cannot understand people that show thumbs down. You do a GREAT job! Please keep up the good work!

  • @HoH
    @HoH 5 років тому +9

    These videos about tanks lately are very interesting 'hidden' gems in history!

  • @haroldellis9721
    @haroldellis9721 5 років тому +36

    I'm thinking some model kit companies should be sponsoring this channel, given the number of tank builds it must inspire.

  • @MightyTiki
    @MightyTiki 5 років тому +657

    It’s strange that France would give Sweden, a country that remained neutral throughout the war, a King Tiger.

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 5 років тому +49

      As the Swedes might have said: "We try to stay out of war, but it is important to be ready for one. That Konigstiger looks a bit "Russian" to me...like a Stalin tank? Does the thought of us turning a "Stalin" tank into scrap appeal to you?"

    • @Vicipedia1
      @Vicipedia1 5 років тому +123

      They most likely gave it to us as they wanted to remain on good terms with a very large buffer state between the Soviets and NATO in northern Europe. Also France was littered with them everywhere anyway

    • @scepticalwalker3984
      @scepticalwalker3984 5 років тому +42

      Mighty Tiki i don’t know if there is a connection or not but if you read up on the liberation of Paris you will find a swede at the center of events. Hitler had ordered his general in Paris, von Choltitz, to destroy the city with explosives and fire. A Swedish diplomat Raoul Nordling, in several meetings, convinced the general to disobey Hitlers orders.

    • @jw451
      @jw451 5 років тому +34

      Neutral? Like the war profiteering nazi collaborating Swiss they made a lot of money selling high-quality Swedish steel to the nazis. So much so that a post war study found that from just access to high-quality Swedish steel the nazi war machine lasted at least six months longer than they would have without. IOW the war lasted 6 months longer than it could have without Swedish steel. should be a book written about the myth of Swiss neutrality at least. Their hands arent dirty nor the country charred rubble. Both the Swedes and the Swiss made a fortune out of ww2 THANK YOU VERY MUCH..................mmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • @joseftrumpeldor6240
      @joseftrumpeldor6240 5 років тому +3

      I do a favor for you, in a few years down the road, you'll do me a favor...

  • @panzertracks
    @panzertracks 5 років тому +227

    Wish the Swedish would had restored that big cat instead of scrapping the thing. I've seen videos on youtube about a King tiger that is under restoration process in Switzerland, any news of that one Mark? thanks for sharing.

    • @THX11458
      @THX11458 5 років тому +8

      Here are two videos - the first from 10 months ago and the other from a year ago - they appear to be making slow but steady progress. It's interesting, according the the head restorer, no two King Tigers were built exactly alike.
      ua-cam.com/video/PHrZmgA_A3w/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/v_z1P18BwXw/v-deo.html

    • @Dumlen
      @Dumlen 5 років тому +7

      They have a working one still in one of Frances tank museums, I'm thinking about going there someday. here: ua-cam.com/video/imVVbea2308/v-deo.html

    • @rand0m0mg
      @rand0m0mg 5 років тому +9

      It was used for development of Bofors heavy weapons, the finest in the world.

  • @marcopothuizen
    @marcopothuizen 3 роки тому +6

    Sweden after inspection: "Too difficult to build. Let's make volvo's. Blow up this one."

  • @robertandrews6915
    @robertandrews6915 5 років тому +1

    I’m astounded that no word stumps you. Your pronunciation of so many words is top notch from French, German, Japanese, and more. Really nice videos hope they keep coming

  • @Gurfi28
    @Gurfi28 5 років тому +12

    There is a Kingtiger in Switzerland as well. It was used as a „Schleppobjekt“, meaning a tank to be dragged by armoured engineering vehicles.
    It‘s currently being restored..

  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock 5 років тому +1

    A good, no nonsense series of videos with well coordinated film clips and concise narration.

  • @christiansaal261
    @christiansaal261 5 років тому +102

    I would not say that the King Tiger was the ancestor to modern MBT`s. The Panther is in theory closer to a MBT since it also had (again in theory) rather good mobility. But thats a point over which people are arguing all the time

    • @F-14DSuperTomcat
      @F-14DSuperTomcat 5 років тому +6

      What about the Centurion?

    • @markrussell4449
      @markrussell4449 5 років тому +9

      Weight for weight the King tiger is comparable to Abrams and Challenger 2.
      It had probably the best tank gun of its generation
      It had almost impenetrable armour.
      Due to its wide tracks it was surprisingly mobile cross country.
      What let it down were the conditions it was built under, the logistics required to support it and the need for skilled crews to get the best out of it.
      I'd say it's a very good candidate as a predecessor to today's big MBTs

    • @awkwarddoggo05
      @awkwarddoggo05 5 років тому +2

      Well that could also be said about Shermans and T-34s

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 5 років тому +4

      The concept is the same for either tank and modern battle tanks. Keep the crews alive longer and keep them in combat longer. Creating a tank is easy, losing that skill to effectively command one is costly because it takes much longer to replace.

    • @chuckvan1568
      @chuckvan1568 5 років тому +12

      Christian Saal I agree. The King Tiger was a heavy tank and Main Battle Tanks (MBT) are not. No one is fielding a heavy tank these days. The US had the M103 heavy tank, but have taken it out of service even though it was well liked by it's crews. There is one sitting in a park near where I live, but without any signage or plaques saying what it is. It's very interesting to compare the mobility and reliability of the King Tiger to the Leopard 2 MBT. The King Tiger does not compare well, but instead the Leopard 2 shows all the improvements gained in tank design since WWII.

  • @SupesMe
    @SupesMe 5 років тому +98

    ugh they murdered that RARE King Tiger!!!I hope they at least learned something from it. I know their Planes are pretty good but the only Tank of theirs I know about is the S Tank which was awesome

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme 5 років тому +7

      They needed it as much for learning how to deal with heavy enemy tanks as for knowing how to make tanks. Sweden has made good guns and ammunition.

    • @PIRANHA_MAN
      @PIRANHA_MAN 5 років тому +6

      Now we now where the Volvo Estate car came from

    • @elmee96
      @elmee96 5 років тому +4

      We have leopard (or strv122 as we call them in Sweden) tanks now and they are awesome! So we still use german big cats

    • @Lappmogel
      @Lappmogel 5 років тому

      Google ''stridsvagn 2000'' if you want to see some experimental Swedish tanks.

    • @MrRjizz
      @MrRjizz 5 років тому +1

      most Swedish heavy tank design was influenced by the Soviets and the French, the is 3 frontal hull and the french auto loading capability so I guess they didnt really use anything they found on the king tiger. these designs are mostly just blueprints though

  • @Ephraim32
    @Ephraim32 5 років тому +798

    If Germany had lasted another 5 years I can’t imagine what their tank and aircraft programs would even have looked like

    • @HappyHippyHuddy
      @HappyHippyHuddy 5 років тому +134

      Their jets were crazy

    • @JD-tl7ld
      @JD-tl7ld 5 років тому +235

      It wouldn't have mattered. While grossly more advanced in a lot of ways, the German Government made blunder after blunder when it came to weapons. Instead of putting resources into a few sure things, they put a little here, and a little there. That left them at a huge disadvantage against countries that had huge industrial capabilities. Not to mention that Germany lacked a lot of the resources needed continue to build war materials in the first place.

    • @smartiepancake
      @smartiepancake 5 років тому +141

      Basically they'd've put the Tirpitz on tracks

    • @Flapjackbatter
      @Flapjackbatter 5 років тому +57

      Neither do I. But I know those tanks would have been made out of wood. And they would have been pedal-powered.
      But, man! The nazi 1946 tanx would prolly LOOK hella awesome.

    • @littlejimmy8744
      @littlejimmy8744 5 років тому +34

      Maus might have been mass produced.

  • @hofstaetterjuergen990
    @hofstaetterjuergen990 4 роки тому +9

    Obwohl ich sehr viel über Tiger und Panther Panzer wußte, war mir das schwedische Kapitel neu. Es wäre interessant zu erfahren, welche Lehren Schweden daraus ziehen konnte. Es ist verständlich, dass das Tigerwrack als Zielobjekt diente und so "aufgebraucht" wurde. Damals dachte Niemand daran, Panzer für Museen auf zu bewahren. Den Panther in Munsterlager konnte ich mir vor einem Jahr ansehen, dort steht auch ein Königstiger mit Henschelturm, klasse Museum.

  • @janhemmer1414
    @janhemmer1414 5 років тому +9

    Also, the panther at munster now had severe troubles with its maybach engines, leading to the bundeswehr mechanics installing a modern MTU powerplant. I asked a few people how they managed to do that with the old transmission and clutch, as the MTU diesel has probably more torque than the old maybach. But apparently it just works.

  • @angrybeast0648
    @angrybeast0648 5 років тому +13

    Nice video! Thanks for the upload!

  • @Garneare
    @Garneare 5 років тому +3

    I can't believe how you are able to upload these well researched vidoes every day! Keep up the good work!!

  • @sektor2001
    @sektor2001 5 років тому +15

    Hello Mark . Could you make a few episodes covering the Czech tanks ( Skoda ) , Italian ( they're pretty much forgotten inWW2 general history books ) and Japanese tanks ? Your mini-docs are great !

  • @WiliiamNoTell
    @WiliiamNoTell 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video mark thank you for sharing

  • @OfficialRebellionK
    @OfficialRebellionK 5 років тому +9

    My grandfather actually drove that specific Panther tank while doing his military service at what I believe was called "Stridsvagnsskolan" somewhere around 1950

  • @jezza8558
    @jezza8558 5 років тому +1

    Enjoying your videos very much, I thought I knew quite a bit about WW2 but you've given me a new insight. Its the details I really enjoy! Keep up the great channel!

  • @lampshade6967
    @lampshade6967 5 років тому +72

    Such a shame they destroyed it

    • @rand0m0mg
      @rand0m0mg 5 років тому +5

      It was used for development of Bofors heavy weapons, the finest in the world.

  • @user-has-left
    @user-has-left 5 років тому

    Still by far the best and most enjoyable channel on UA-cam. 👍

  • @BigSmartArmed
    @BigSmartArmed 4 роки тому +2

    Panther and KT - both dead end designs that didn't develop into anything past 1945.

  • @russwoodward8251
    @russwoodward8251 5 років тому +1

    Interesting. This piece also tells a story of Sweden and France and their post war relationship. Thank you.

  • @skalgrimfellaxe5796
    @skalgrimfellaxe5796 5 років тому +7

    As a swede I was surprised by this information. While our tank-program did create some interesting models I always assumed that most of the inovation was either copying mostly the brittish or swedish innovation. That we might also have used the King Tiger as a basis for many of our develeopements is a interesting aspect of history that we, probably for political reasons, have overlooked.

  • @kellyarnsdorf5083
    @kellyarnsdorf5083 5 років тому +2

    Excellent historical work as always Mr Felton!

  • @Daniel-zl2ek
    @Daniel-zl2ek 5 років тому +5

    Your videos are awesome I live in Sweden and I didn't know we had a king tiger

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 5 років тому +24

    You would have thought the Panther would have been a better tank to study, considering the fact that it would make a better starting point if you wanted to build your own tanks.

    • @skalgrimfellaxe5796
      @skalgrimfellaxe5796 5 років тому

      We did get a few of those as well.

    • @hnorrstrom
      @hnorrstrom 5 років тому

      Sweden had build tanks for 20+ years by then, lots of m42 in the video. But yes you are right. But we ended up buying centurions.

    • @pew-pew2224
      @pew-pew2224 5 років тому +1

      It depends what you want to study. If I remember correctly they did some studies on how good different AT-weapons where against different armour/tanks. This included things like after armour effect. I think they placed live tranquilized bunnies in different positions in the tank. After they had shoot at the tank they killed the bunnies and then checked on things like the ear-drums and etc.

    • @MrRjizz
      @MrRjizz 5 років тому +1

      @@hnorrstrom problem with Swedish tank development was that it was so slow every time they started production on a new tank it was already outdated

  • @sergeantpanther678
    @sergeantpanther678 5 років тому +164

    Reminds me of the En Svensk Tiger achievement in Hoi4

    • @sirdankus9419
      @sirdankus9419 5 років тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @misterjag
      @misterjag 5 років тому +16

      "En svensk tiger" could also mean "a Swede keeps silent".
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_svensk_tiger

    • @Anonymous-zu7dh
      @Anonymous-zu7dh 5 років тому +16

      En svensk tiger were a propaganda campaign in Sweden during WW2. "En svensk tiger" was written on a poster together with a tiger with yellow and blue stripes. Tiger in Swedish can mean both tiger (animal) or tiger (to be silent)

    • @qkhuve
      @qkhuve 5 років тому +11

      Sergeant Panther Fun fact: ”Tiger” in swedish means both ”Tiger” and ”Remains Silent”. ”En svensk tiger” was used as a slogan during the Cold War to in a shrewed way remind people not to talk to strangers.

    • @ronchabale
      @ronchabale 5 років тому

      För han vågar inte öppna käften.. Fega kräk skulle en också kunna säga

  • @stevenbuckley1416
    @stevenbuckley1416 5 років тому +1

    Thank you mark Brilliant job on your behalf👍

  • @kast7n336
    @kast7n336 5 років тому +1

    i was going to sleep but saw the notification and got hyped for the amazing story like other amazing stories u tell us thanks

  • @tommyemattsson
    @tommyemattsson 5 років тому +25

    As a swede. I'm starting to like the french.

    • @curiouslarry6933
      @curiouslarry6933 5 років тому

      Tommy - I have done some in depth Family Tree research, and among my ancient Scandinavian ancestors, I found one with the epithet/nickname - 'Evil Heart of Sweden' - another of my ancestors is William 'The Bastard' 'The Conqueror - so I will say no more!!! :grin:

  • @railwaystories1.027
    @railwaystories1.027 5 років тому +1

    Your videos are awesome ! Well made and very informative!

  • @XilencezGaming
    @XilencezGaming 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for another amazing video!

  • @SuperI5T
    @SuperI5T 5 років тому +19

    So many negative comments about Sweden destroying their King Tiger. If it would be in the modern era, nobody would complain if they destroyed a Leopard 2. To develop new weapons you have to test them on the current top of the line targets.

    • @I_am_Diogenes
      @I_am_Diogenes 5 років тому +6

      Now that is an unenlightened comparison . How many Leopard IIs are there ? How many King Tigers ? Did Sweden build either one ? Still see no difference ? Probably not .

  • @robertwhite8238
    @robertwhite8238 5 років тому +110

    Well done Sweden for destroying a historic tank for fun!

  • @Chickenassable
    @Chickenassable 5 років тому +3

    That was a very early King Tiger. Extremely rare.
    It would fetch millions if it still existed.

  • @animal16365
    @animal16365 5 років тому +2

    The Tiger 2 tank wasnt a predecessor to the modern main battle tank. The main battle tank was of British origin. It combined the speed of a cruiser tank with the frontal armor of a heavy tank.
    The Tiger 2 was a German design combining the heavy armor of the tiger 1 tank with the Panthers sloped armour.

  • @TheI3lacky
    @TheI3lacky 5 років тому

    Seen that panther driving live twice... the sound is just great!

  • @suspiciousminds1750
    @suspiciousminds1750 5 років тому

    I always find something fascinating on your channel. Well done!

  • @suzyqualcast6269
    @suzyqualcast6269 5 років тому

    Thank you for these extra informative postings.

  • @Michael-yu2yk
    @Michael-yu2yk 5 років тому +1

    the train sound at 3:40 scared the ever living shit out of me... I thought an earthquake was knocking stuff off my walls!

  • @Flopsos
    @Flopsos 5 років тому +3

    Wow, I never knew of this, thank you mark

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 5 років тому

    Love these longer-form videos!

  • @bubbasquid
    @bubbasquid 5 років тому +1

    Once again, very good stuff!

  • @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
    @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 5 років тому +136

    I knew that the French have one , but not Sweden.

    • @ricardosoto5770
      @ricardosoto5770 5 років тому +4

      The Swedish HAD one....

    • @fderive
      @fderive 5 років тому +2

      French have one in perfect working order in Samur tank museum, they take it out sometimes videos on youtube

    • @Dncmaster
      @Dncmaster 5 років тому +10

      @minekpista Fuck outta here with your overused shit "joke"

    • @casperslaststandme5991
      @casperslaststandme5991 5 років тому +2

      @lvl100 fat guy that kill the boss minekpista is attempting a old joke about the French, i think he meant that the French version of tanks come with a white flag and four reverse gears, so they can either surrender or retreat quickly, there were similar jokes about Italian tanks with multiple reverse gears and ferrari engines.

    • @kikrotin
      @kikrotin 5 років тому +2

      Yep, we got the only one in running condition in my city :p Musée des blindés de Saumur. (a nice museum btw)

  • @DawgBreff
    @DawgBreff 5 років тому

    First time viewer to your channel, subscribed.
    I like this informative piece on more "hidden" topic.
    Nice one. I am looking forwards to watching through your previous videos and hopefully many more to come.

  • @billburnett5114
    @billburnett5114 5 років тому

    Love these videos, great pieces of unknown history.

  • @WillWoods-qg5pu
    @WillWoods-qg5pu 5 років тому +7

    And the Swedes wisely purchased British Centurion tanks afterward.

  • @keithallver2450
    @keithallver2450 5 років тому +33

    I wonder what went through the minds of T-34 and M-4 tank crews when they first saw a King Tiger? Most likely they shit themselves.

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 5 років тому +4

      Wouldn’t you?

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 5 років тому +16

      Sgt. Borodin: Comrade commander, a new Nazi tank!
      Lt. Kuznetsov: I see it, Sergeant. Fire a round at it and make it follow us.
      Borodin: Are you crazy? They will pursue and kill us!
      Kuznetsov: Not to worry, Pavel, we will lead it into the swamp, then let the infantry deal with it...if it doesn't break down first.
      Borodin: Good thinking, Comrade commander. Corporal Ustinov, contact the pyromaniacs in the 8th Guards, this will be very interesting.;)

    • @cass276
      @cass276 5 років тому +13

      In the early 1970s I spoke to an ex Sherman tank commander who fought in the Bocage area, and he told me that they were losing so many tanks and crews especially commanders that inexperienced men found themselves suddenly promoted to commander. and as such they would come to him as an experienced commander and seek his advice.He related one such question that went as follows
      "what did you do Sir when you saw your first Tiger?"
      his reply was
      "firstly I shit myself...and secondly when we saw the Tiger hadn't seen us, we got the f**k out of it"
      the only piece of advice he said he could give the young man was, "If you get caught by a Tiger or an 88mm gun - and he misses you with his first shot, bail out..... because he won't miss you with his second" I told him "we can replace tanks, but crews we can't"
      a remark that has stayed with me a long time.

    • @cambium0
      @cambium0 5 років тому +11

      what went through the minds of T-34 and M-4 tank crews when they first saw a King Tiger? An 88mm ap round

    • @hnorrstrom
      @hnorrstrom 5 років тому

      So how to know if a tank is good from the outside look? Well size but size is hard to tell at distance. No soldier had the info we have.
      T-34 and m-4 have the same overall construction So it was just another large tank, Until it got reputation.

  • @psblad2667
    @psblad2667 5 років тому

    Swedish Air Force had bought 60 Spitfires Mk XIX in 1948 which were used a reconnaissance planes. Remaining 39 were in good airworthy conditions when they all were scrapped 1955!!

  • @Left-Foot-Brake
    @Left-Foot-Brake 5 років тому +1

    I got scared when that train sound effect started!

  • @123Dunebuggy
    @123Dunebuggy 5 років тому +12

    The Ikea Tiger....it looked great on paper, its parts and assembly where questionable and when moved it never really functions again.

    • @gurra63able
      @gurra63able 5 років тому +1

      IKEA is a furniture company that sells shit products to idiots. It sounds like you have some experience of assemble Ikea furniture so you have to be one of those buying idiots?.

    • @skeezy4722
      @skeezy4722 5 років тому +1

      gurra63able ikea is not shit

  • @ThatSpiffingChap
    @ThatSpiffingChap 5 років тому +2

    Fascinating video, very obscure but very interesting!
    For all the people in disbelief about scrapping it: once you have researched it and learned all you can what practical use do you have of it? It's not your history and it was of a rather recent conflict so scrapping it was a reasonable option especially in post war Europe.
    A minor point on Swedish pronunciation: S' at the front of words are pronounced more like in English than in German so not like sch. Also while on topic, rg together at the end of words makes a y sounds so more like Karlsbory.

  • @archiescriven6178
    @archiescriven6178 5 років тому +4

    I'm so glad I live only about 80 miles from saumur

  • @jeanuardorbigoso699
    @jeanuardorbigoso699 5 років тому +9

    King Tiger: My friend we will together
    Panther: okay my friend
    After few years
    King Tiger : oh no wtf
    Today
    Panther: where is my friend

  • @jonminer9891
    @jonminer9891 5 років тому

    Thanks for your hard work to find and tell history as it really happened, and not a politically corrected version.

  • @vigneshpandian3829
    @vigneshpandian3829 5 років тому +1

    What did other countries come up with using the German scrapped tanks.post war did they develop anything similar to tiger.what did they adopt from the German design??

  • @larrywalsh5173
    @larrywalsh5173 3 роки тому

    Very interesting Mark. Thank you

  • @spamuraigranatabru1149
    @spamuraigranatabru1149 5 років тому +1

    I disagree with it being the 'Predecessor of the main battle tank' as the King Tiger was designed to specifically be big slow and heavy.

  • @rangermcq6281
    @rangermcq6281 5 років тому

    Great video, well researched. Thank you.

  • @bwbethel
    @bwbethel 5 років тому

    Fascinating -- as always!

  • @Flopsos
    @Flopsos 5 років тому +51

    I heard you say: “Porsche turret” but Porsche didn’t make turrets, Krupp made the turrets, Henschel and Porsche made the hulls, for the king tiger the hulls were made made by Henschel
    Still an interesting video

    • @HappyHippyHuddy
      @HappyHippyHuddy 5 років тому +1

      Yes. The turret is different in two versions though.

    • @dooglemcdoogle4062
      @dooglemcdoogle4062 5 років тому +2

      You beat me to it by 15 minutes.
      That bugs All die hard tank enthusiast.
      The early model Krupp turret was placed on the Porecher prototype, and was captured at the end of the war.

    • @theobuzat9091
      @theobuzat9091 5 років тому +7

      Porsche did make a turret, it as a rounder front glacis. You can see a version at the Bovington tank museum

    • @BHuang92
      @BHuang92 5 років тому +1

      Porsche designed the turrets.

    • @knutdergroe9757
      @knutdergroe9757 5 років тому +7

      It was a prototype turret.
      The turret of German tanks were made by the gun manufacturer.

  • @bubby8825
    @bubby8825 5 років тому +3

    Krupp designed the turret.
    Porsche had nothing to do with the design of the turret, and never produced one to this day.
    That's a common misconception.

    • @sander6438
      @sander6438 5 років тому

      The king tiger had two turrets

  • @sankyu3950
    @sankyu3950 5 років тому +2

    That turret is a prototype turret it was NOT made from Porsche as Porsche had 2 design for there own tank against tiger 2, this turret is an early variant made by krupp the reason why it wasn't in full production was because the germans dislike the look and the fact that the design of the turret had possibilities of a shot trap which the germans weren't happy with so krupp made the next variant with 183mm mantlet instead of the previous 100mm

  • @DrHavoc1
    @DrHavoc1 5 років тому +1

    What does the Tiger 2 have to do with modern MBT's?

  • @TheSuperKnug
    @TheSuperKnug 5 років тому +10

    Skaraborgs regemente P4, Skövde.

  • @Legitpenguins99
    @Legitpenguins99 5 років тому +1

    Btw the German museum the panther was given to has a UA-cam channel. Sadly most videos are only in German

  • @Konstantin-nl4pp
    @Konstantin-nl4pp 5 років тому +6

    Hello Mark could you make a video about the Entwicklungsserie-Tanks? (E-Series)

  • @matthe1972
    @matthe1972 5 років тому

    Yor channel is truly impressive. Very nice stories

  • @ilikesnow7074
    @ilikesnow7074 5 років тому

    Hey guys, let blow up this priceless relic of history and then scrap everything before we give it to the museum

  • @johnDukemaster
    @johnDukemaster 5 років тому +1

    Amazing! Well done!

  • @frankwhite3406
    @frankwhite3406 5 років тому

    Great Episode indeed, at least the Panther Ausf G survived intact !!!

  • @xl1200r
    @xl1200r 5 років тому

    Brilliant historical gems!!

  • @joydevsarkar4474
    @joydevsarkar4474 5 років тому

    Bengal Tiger, indeed a fierce, formidable animal, it is said commonly that if you enter in the jungle be sure that it is watching you from a corner though you can't see him, congratulations from a west bengali person

  • @melle9155
    @melle9155 5 років тому +14

    Actually mark, the turret shouldn't be referres to as a "Porsche" turret because porsche and henschel only made the hull and powersupply i.e. engines and such. The curved turret was a prototype turret, hence the (P). Porsche had no influence on the turrets, which were made by Krupp I think. Otherwise great video, keep it up!

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 5 років тому +7

      True. But people commonly refer to it these days as the Porsche turret. So even though it’s not a Porsche turret the name seems to have stuck.

    • @CreepingHistory
      @CreepingHistory 5 років тому +2

      Grev A that doesn't mean we should call it the Porsche turret ^^

    • @greva2904
      @greva2904 5 років тому

      I’m not saying we should.

  • @ipanzerschrecku4732
    @ipanzerschrecku4732 5 років тому +2

    I think the "Swedish King Tiger" could very well be one of the tanks bought by Japan but never shipped from France and put back into German service in France.

    • @gurra63able
      @gurra63able 5 років тому

      I understand that the Tiger Japan had bought to study and copy was Tiger model one not the model two (King Tiger) that they did not have the resources or technology to build in Japan.

  • @thunberbolttwo3953
    @thunberbolttwo3953 5 років тому +2

    The king tiger was not the ancestor of the moderm main battle tank.That would be the british centurion tank.

  • @TheNorman1169
    @TheNorman1169 5 років тому

    Thanks mark

  • @RockinL7BuckingBulls
    @RockinL7BuckingBulls 5 років тому

    Very informative and sad but that was then. The king tiger at Aberdeen Proving Ground’s was cut up for internal view . Enjoyed your production.👍👏

  • @marc9283
    @marc9283 5 років тому

    fun fact on that Panther: it has a modern Diesel engine know because the original Maybach engine broke. Apart from that the tank is in really nice condition, saw it live in the museum and driving at an event.

  • @atatexan
    @atatexan 5 років тому

    You such a good ferret and author. This recent tank series is very interesting and well done.

  • @petervollhiem3109
    @petervollhiem3109 5 років тому

    Great video - thanks.

  • @anatolib.suvarov6621
    @anatolib.suvarov6621 5 років тому +1

    It occurs to me, that this early Tiger II may have been one of the tanks at the German version of Aberdeen Proving Grounds, and once it became clear that the end was neigh, it was sent out to the front, so never got unit markings.

  • @aguyfromsweden
    @aguyfromsweden 5 років тому +1

    There was yet another Panther in sweden,which was used for trial. It's today in the Panzer Museum in Munster

  • @timotom7860
    @timotom7860 5 років тому +4

    Snygg video!

  • @ValentineC137
    @ValentineC137 5 років тому

    Videos like these just remind me of how the UK scrapped the E-100 hull and running gear :(

  • @brunothepug8807
    @brunothepug8807 5 років тому +1

    King tiger with modern targeting computers would still be formidable. Europe is blessed that in both world wars the USA entered to upset the balance. Only we had the industrial capacity to replace machines faster than the Germans could destroy them.

  • @hnorrstrom
    @hnorrstrom 5 років тому +3

    This is a intresting story. However well known. What about making a video about the story about v1 and v2 rockets from tests that ended up in sweden in 43-44? And got evaluated and sold to the british for radar technology? Few knows that.