Horizon Insider Tech Talk: Spektrum SAFE Select Binding Procedure
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Horizon Insider Tech Talk: Spektrum SAFE Select Binding Procedure
This video covers the process involved in:
1. Binding your BNF Basic plane to any Spektrum DSMX transmitter
2. Choosing the proper switch for SAFE Select
2. The difference between binding with SAFE Select and/or AS3X only
3. How to assign SAFE to a particular switch on your transmitter
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Thanks Kyle and HH for providing great video and information about Safe Select and AS3X binding process
Thanks a lot, I flew my RC valiant today and crashed it. Turns out that my SAFE system was not engaged. Now I gotta get a new prop.
Now I can fly my plane with comfort knowing that the safe system does all the hard work.
Sorry to hear about your Valiant... but glad to hear this video helped! - Kyle
@@horizonhobby Thanks Kyle!
This was an outstanding video with easy to follow step by step instructions! Especially important were the checks to ensure that AS3X technology and SAFE Select are both active and working. The aircraft and transmitter instructions fall way short on providing adequate instructions to properly bind the aircraft to the transmitter.
Thanks for the feedback ;). - Kyle
Wow!! finally found some accurate info! this literally saved my jet, as the directions that came with it were very short no real detail. Many thx!!!
I just bought this plane and this video was EXTREMELY helpful !!!! Just did the maiden flight and it performed perfectly. It flies much slower than my Carbon Cub so it will work much better for my granddaughter to learn on which is the reason I bought it. Happy Camper !
I have just bought the Maule M7 and being new to RC was dreading the binding process but thanks to your very well presented demo I am now set to go. Thanks a heap.
Very grateful for the accurate and useful information. This explains my near disaster with a brand new plane. It was bound in AS3X and not SAFE mode. I will try again!
Just got my first safe select bnf plane and this is perfect. Thanks for posting such a clear demo and explanation.
You are welcome! Glad we could help ;). - Kyle
Finally someone who explains it right so folks who did not grow up with a PC in the crib will get it to. The TX Horizon manual is hard to understand confusing at best. Who ever writes those manuals thinks that everyone knows as much as they do.
Nice presentation - I especially liked the simple check on which position the SAFE select switch was in. One clarification: you "recommend" binding to a "new" model in the Tx memory. The fact is, you cannot bind an AR636(A) Rx to anything other than a fresh, default model in the Tx. Tried it... then read the manual. ;-)
This video is a very good primer, but it is NOT for the newer Forward Programmable (FP) Rxs. It's for the AR636 and possibly the AR6335, NOT the AR637T and other SRXL2 SAFE Rxs. I know this video came out before the SRXL2 Rxs came out.
That "A" switch is the one most pilots I know use for retracts. So I use Switch G for my Receiver flight modes (FM) assignments. Spektrum didn't distinguish between Rx and Tx FMs. They are different and very confusing if you don't distinguish which one you're talking about. Some AR636s have a remote port available, while others do not.
I’m amazed at the complex procedure required. Imagine a process of turning it on and a UI to connect.
Immediately pulling the bind plug after those first beeps is key. Lifesaver you!
This really helped to confirm that I did the binding process right... wouldn’t want to crash my F16 flat into the ground after my hand launch
In subject matter that could be very confusing, this video was very clear. Excellent video, attempting to cover every possibility and scenario/combination. Well done. Will help me when I finally get my UMX Timber up in the air. Thanks
Wow! I have the UMX turbo Timber and love it . But for a year now I've had the clipped wing cub and I knew something wasn't right . I just had no confidence that the reciever was working in safe. Now I know why. With in 10 mins of watching your video I had it working correctly ! Man I wish I had seen this earlier.
Glad we could help!
Thank you. Much simpler explained than trying to follow instructions from the manual which by the way tried several times in vain.
I needed this! Very informative, excellent job by the guy demonstrateing. Clear voice to the point. Thank you
Great info.. I think Horizon should include a servo extender like shown so you can bind from the battery compartment...
The Aero Sport S does just that
You can always add an extension lead at any time. .
Brand new P 39 binds fine but won't accept a switch selection to turn off SAFE. I'm doing it right and have done this with many other planes, but this plane wont accept a switch selection so I can't turn SAFE off.
This is the video I've been looking for! Very informative about activating SAFE. Why this info isn't in the aircraft manuals I don't know. I have a Carbon Cub S+ and the manual doesn't make it clear out this process and not even a mention of the type of transmitter required if you add the flaps option. This is meant as a beginners plane and up so details would be useful.
The Carbon Cub S+ is actually different as it does NOT use SAFE Select. It uses progressive flight modes in conjunction with the GPS system. SAFE gets assigned to whatever switch is set as GEAR in your transmitter. Also, for information on adding flaps: ua-cam.com/video/5OUfkwkQMEo/v-deo.html
Yep. Learned the hard way after I had maidened my Timber X 1.2m even after checking the control surfaces and the TX switch, SAFE didn't take. I still had a successful maiden and flight, it's just that my landing wasn't.
At last! Someone has actually explained the Safe/ASX process. Many thanks Kyle.
New hobbiest here. The manuals assume you know things. For instance, the Apprentice STS doesn't need a bind plug as it has Safe built-in on beginner and Intermediate modes. So you do not have to follow this video. (Or buy a bind plug) Also, not in the manual on the bnf, your receiver has a "bind switch" you have to push to put the plane into binding mode (think turning on bluetooth to broadcast a signal). This button is an itty bitty pin-head button you almost need a microscope to see (look for the two antenna inside the plane body and follow them down to the receiver, it is on the face of the receiver). Push that button, it will begin to flash, then press the bind button on your controller and hold it while you power on the controller. The plane should start to "dance" indicating it has bound. Also not in the manual, when binding to the dx8e, the bind button automatically becomes a panic button. So as you are flying, if you get into trouble, press and hold that bind/panic button which will engage safe. Release it to disengage safe. Safe will always be on in beginner and in Intermediate (but allows a bit more banking). Safe is off on experienced mode. You can test this by flipping the plane over while in experienced, press the bind/panic button, the plane should dramatically try to right itself. Also while flipped and in experienced switch your toggle to beginner (0) and it should again try to dramatically right itself. Also newbies get the Real Flight simulator (this plane is in the newest version ) it is very realistic and helps tremendously. Hope this helps!!! Happy flying!!! Xoxo
Is this still true for new models? I have an Apprentice with an A3230 flight controller, and it won't bind to my DX8. Does anyone have a manual for the A3230?
Great video.I have a V900 I need to bind up to my DX8.Waiting for the weather to warm up and stop raining.
Finally ans explanation I understand. Leave it to Horizon to continue great customer support. I dinged my Valiant recently (my fault) thinking I had SAFE activated when I did not.
Excellent video Kyle. Thanks ever so much. Off to the garage to test my aeroplane now.
Another important question: when do you adjust the Gain rate for the Safe Select. You can adjust from 0 - 100% for the Aileron, the same for the Elevator, and the same for the Rudder!
When do you adjust? Before the Binding process?
Thank you for your knowledge I had set everything up flaps, duel rates, throttle cut. Could not assign a change El and I have turbo timber evolution umx it automatically set safe on ch 5 gear which neither planes have. I found out when I accidentally bumped the switch mid flight and crashed (umx model) I replaced the fuselage and it's ready to go! TANK YOU KYLE!
Thank you! I couldn’t figure out how to turn on the safe! I knew I had As3x on but it’s confirmed now it’s on!
Hello, I have a question, the button with which the safe is activated or deactivated must be assigned in the transmitter, and another question, this procedure also applies to gas or glow models
Technically the "SAFE button" is programmed in the receiver. The receiver simply looks for what function corresponds to that on your transmitter. So, if SAFE is setup to be AUX 2, the receiver will always look for AUX 2 on any/all radios bound to it.
hi my DX9 Binds to my receiver but no response from the servos , ...any clues why please...
Great Vid. Explains binding much better than the manual
Glad to hear it helped!
Thank you very much! Your video was very clear and helped me set up my new Valiant 1.3 with a switch to turn the safe select on and off.
What a very useful video. Thank you!
YOU ARE MY MEN! THX - Perfect Instruction!
What channel is used ? Don't you have to assign your selected switch to a channel BEFORE you do the BIND ? for example assign switch A to channel AUX 2 or AUX 2 or AUX 3 etc ?
What a super video. I was having loads of problems trying to bind my Spektrum DX8 G2 to an E-flite Carbon Cub S with Safe. The secret was to REMOVE the bind plug from the plane BEFORE turning on the transmitter. What does it not say this anywhere else???
Thanks for the input. Your manual should state to remove the bind plug though ;).
@@horizonhobby Please look at page 11 of the DX8 G2 manual. It clearly states that the bind plug is removed last which is incorrect. It fails to bind if you follow those instructions. I would attach a screenshot but can't.
The instructions for the cub would have the correct process
I'm using an older DSM2 radio, I've followed the SAFE binding and switch assignment procedure (gear channel set to +/-100 end points), but there is no change when flipping the switch. I noted at the start of the video you only mentioned DSMX radios, is that why I can't use SAFE?
Thanks for the demonstration.
I have a Taranis X9D Plus (original) with a DM9 DSM2 module. I've managed to map Safe Select to a switch on my Turbo Timber when I bought that a couple of years ago, but on my new Extra 300 I can't get it to work. It will bind correctly (control surfaces wags twice) but when I try to map it to a switch it just toggles Safe Select on, and if I try to map it to the same switch again it toggles it off. It won't let me toggle it on and off once I've mapped it to the switch. The switch is on channel 5 and the DM9 module is running at CH1-8, 22.5 ms, 400u, -
So much of this is bewildering to the casual flier. Turn on and bind is easy enough for most folks. Confusing procedural sequencing is just too much in my opinion.
Thanks I need this information, because it's my first bnf, starting off with rtf version unit my skills advanced
Do I need to set the program first in my dx6e , before I bind? This is new to me and all flying club's are to far away for help
Scotty Norris I hope you figured this out by now. Yes, you need to do the setup in the transmitter before you do the bind step. Then follow the steps in the video with the bind procedure depending if you want SAFE on or not. Which plane did you get?
@@GrotrianSeiler I bought a turbo timber, and timberX, I set the program, and binded them, they both fly great, the X is different being my first 3d, but I'm learning how to fly it! I did break a prop landing, came in a little fast and nosed into the ground
When assigning switch A on a Spektrum DX6 Transmitter, I see under Digital Switch Setup, 0= +100% and 1= -100%, maybe it's backward but still the same values. The documentation for the AS3X receiver manual states that the switch should be setup to positive (+)100% in both position 0 and 1. Which is correct?
Much Thanks!
You are welcome!
Needed this for my hobbyzone aeroscout... great video..
Did you have to toogle the 3 position flightmode switch for safe when bindning to dx6?
Finally found some info. I've been trying to figure this out ever since I got an upgraded transmitter. Thank you very much.
At 3.54 you say that a plane with AR636 receiver will already have safe select programmed in and that a store bought AR636 will not, and then how to check. I have installed an AR636 into a plane, all surfaces are correct and I get the double waggle on start up suggesting safe is present. I have assigned stick A as per your toggle instructions but it's unsuccessful. can you advise please.
Really good job of explaining how to set up Safe Select :-)
so my plane whit a dxs controller added wont waggel when I do the bind. but when I tip it over it reacts like safe is working. but cant change level settings. havent flown yet.
i really needed this video, cleared up alot of confusion!
Glad to hear it! Let us know if you have any additional questions!
Would the forward programming work to set up the panic button top left? I did this and it set up safe by the toggle switch.. DXs transmitter updated.
This doesn’t seem to work on my aero scout.. no matter what I do it stays in safe on my spectrum DX8. I can’t even assign the switch to toggle it like you did.
Same here. Did you ever get it to work?
Not on the aero scout but other planes work fine.
Why does the trim settings change when switching from SAFE to ASX3? It can be seen around 5:00 in this video I have 4 planes and the all do it. The amount of trim change is a little different for each plane. If you have the plane trimmed in SAFE and wanting to lean to fly with it off you can be in for a big change when you switch SAFE off. Such as the plane dive and turn left. There should be trim settings for each mode both SAFE on and SAFE off so there is no change in flight. Am I over looking something?
This is a great video thank you Kyle. Iv just purchased a nx6 and ordered a carbon cub s2+ I've put safe on the radio from the pre installed. Can you tell me do I just bind the plane to the radio in the safe set up please. Very sorry I'm new at this plus I'm a 64 years young and need a hubby. Thank you
Definitely a great video of course I bound up my A10 without safe but if you do you will not be using the gear switch you will need to use a three position switch not the switch he used.
Perfect demonstration. Thanks.
You are welcome!
Have the Turbo timber . DXs controller. The flaps go down right when plugging in the battery, to get them up I have to press the bind button the entire time , How can I fix that ?
My DX8 will not bind to the plane without the plug in? I can't get it in safe mode? Any suggestions?
Great video very Informative 10/10
I tried to assign safe select a switch for my Maule M-7, but it would not work. Any tips?
Should do one with the Valiant with a DX8. I'm new at this and Newbies may have problems with binding and getting the safe plus somehow explaining about getting up the flaps when you drop the flaps how to set it up when the flaps are going down the nose will not go up and how many seconds the flap speed is
V helpful thanks
You are welcome!
I followed all instructions and removed the binding plug after the first signals. I then used the bind button on the DX8 transmitter to bind the AR637TA receiver with the transmitter. Then I programmed a three way switch on the transmitter with five times activation and the stick positions to SAFE mode.
The AS3X mode is activated in SAFE mode, but when I switch to the non-activated SAFE mode I can no longer see the compensating movements of the ailerons when I move the model. Have I missed something?
High Kyle great video --Will this same procedure work with the Eflite Extra 300 --1.3M? Thanks
This video help solved my issues. Thanks.
Will this work with an ar 400 receiver and a generation 1 spektrum dx8 radio? Thank you.
This doesn't seem to work with the eflr310013 receiver. I cannot get any mode other than beginner, no matter what I try.
Awesome video thanks helped me out alot I'm new to fixed wing I'm a drone guy started with aeroscout now just got the 30mm a10. You awnsered my question about the difference between as3x and safe slept thank you
I have the e flite extra 300 and i dont have any bind plug in it and i dont know how to get safe select ( i have the bnf version)
This is nuts. Why isn’t any of this described in my new 250CFX with SAFE technology (as opposed to SAFE Select) manual? The manual suggests that the SAFE functionality is already enabled with a designated panic button, which is a function of the transmitter model number and its associated programming page in the 250CFX manual. For example the programming page in the 250CFX manual for my DX7s indicates that the gear switch is assigned to the SAFE level and the bind button to the panic mode. But there are Three levels in the SAFE system. Why don’t the instructions call for the use of the 3 position flap switch? How does one toggle through the three levels of SAFE using the two position gear switch? Something is wrong here. Furthermore, the servos only go through an initial configuration move ONCE regardless of whether I remove the binding plug quickly or just leave it in. When I remove the binding plug quickly after initial receiver power on and attempt to select a SAFE on/off switch according to this videos instructions, nothing happens. Additionally as I stated above, the is no way to turn off SAFE. Please respond. Thank you.
The servos do attempt to correct for inverted or extreme attitude of the helicopter and the bind button does cause the servos to move wildly. But as far as which level of SAFE the model is in I have no idea. The servos move at the same rates regardless of the gear switch position.
Thanks for the video, it look like I have safe select activated, I just need to assign a switch to make it work
So after binding with Safe are you ready to fly? do all the control surfaces work with the right inputs and is a rates switch already pre assigned?
I have a Sky Surfer from Blitz RC that I bought years ago but never flew...I have since lost the TX for it. A friend lent me an AR636A receiver to see if this old bird would fly. I can't get the RX to bind to my DXs TX that I got when I purchased an AeroScout. Can you tell me why?
Cool, just got the night timber x and after racking my brain on programming dx8 I had to be sure....awesome products and fun beyond belief
Unfortunately, even following these simple steps, we were not able to assign a switch to turn off SAVE Mode. It just doesn't work.
And we don't get why!
We have the AR636A Receiver in a P47 Razorback and tried with the New NX10 as well as with a DX6e. The Servos don't make the movements they should. The Receiver remains in Save Mode. Then I tried with the same kind of RX from a PT17 (not the original Servos). Still doesn't work.
Excellent video,. However I bought the Commander with Safe Select and when I plug the battery in there are supposed to be tones indicating the ESC recognizes the LVC. Mine makes no sound and SAFE doesn't work. Can you help?
does anyone know if this is the correct procedure when binding my DX8 to my HH Trojan T-28?...thanks
Great video explanation. I have a 2019 Timber1.5... not a turbo. I am using a Spectrum DX6. I can't get my A switch to take the assignment for the mode change. I have followed the video precisely. It stays in safe. Any advice.
At first I thought I did do the binding process wrong I left it chip in but even still when I did it your way I'm still getting the same results the main receive it just blinks red and blue and all my flats just keep going up and down brand new plane brand new remote the remote is a Spektrum dx6i / cub s BNF
My twin otter didn't come with a bind plug. Where can I get one?
Thanks dude! Im new to this and i got a turbo timber. It worked! My question is. Do i have to do this every time i change batteries? And how do you call that extension for plugging the bind plug from the bottom? Thanks
It took me a couple of days to figure this out. I tried and tried and nothing. Apparently you have to assign the corresponding switch letter to Aux.
Well worth watching and even saved for future reference. Better than good job, me think. :) Thanks so much.
Where is the bind plug? It did not come with my transmitter (ix12) or receiver... ?
This... bnf Apptentice sts plane and a dx8e. What is the bind plug. Do I seriously need to buy one just so I can bind in safe?
Hi There! I tried it with my AR636A, but something went wrong. Is it maybe possible, that the AR636(A) with the A at the end is not programmable?
I did every thing you said in the video but my plane doesn´t bind with my spectrum dx8gen2 at all it says binding failed
Try moving further away from the plane (with your radio) before you initiate the bind process on the radio itself.
Ok, absolutely great video, but Ive got some questions/issues. Just purchased a brand new Eflite Timber X, pre installed receiver etc. Also a brand new Spektrum DX8 Gen2. Fully charged batteries on both. I was able to bind the TX to the airplane using the “safe” method, but after doing the safe switch assignment, I get no change. Im also not getting any AS3X corrections when I tilt the airplane. To top it off, when I hit the stick for the airlerons, on the right side the flap moves in conjunction with the airleron, the left side the flap stays in place. I tried to assign a switch to the flaps for %50 and %100, and it wouldnt “take”. What did take however, was the elevator moving down a very small amount in the first position of the switch. Im beyond confused, because the airplane manual and the TX manual seem to give different instructions. Id really appreciate some help! Thanks!
I have a question I did everything you said but my satellite receiver did bind with my transmittal but the main receiver keeps blinking red and blue and all of my flaps keep going up and down
Hi and thank you for a Great tutorial. I have the aeroscout setup from the manual on my dx6 ready to bind with safe but do I need to assign safe to the flightmode switch by toogling the switch still or is it pre set for that 3 pos flightmode switch? The manual is unclear about that..
Okay so I have the avios 130 and I bought a spectrum safe receiver to go in there and I am on the DX8e transmitter the receiver I'm using is the ar636 w/safe. I followed the band and procedure at to bind it to where safe mode is enabled however safe mode will not turn on for nothing in the world I went to my forward programming or the flight mode settings I got to assigned to a switch nothing is working I do know how to work with safe because I have the e-flat Cherokee binding fly I have the e-flite Sirius and those two work perfectly however safe will not enable. Am I missing something? Plz help
Can you bind AS3X and Safe functionality with the DX9 Black 9-Channel DSMX Transmitter and the AR8010T DSMX 8-Channel Air Integrated Telemetry Receiver? Thanks.
No, SAFE hardware/software is only built into the AR363 and AR637 at this time, unfortunately.
Hi Kyle, Perhaps you can guide in me the right direction. I bought the Apprentice STS BNF 2 weeks back and then bought the SPMA3173 GPS Module. I have tried binding exactly the way you suggested for Safe Select. When I start the plane, the elevators wag up and down a few times and then level off. The ailerons then start wagging up and down one at a time and just keep going and going. The sticks do not work as the GPS module is not connecting. Tried with a DXe/DXs and the NX6 Controller. Same result.Any suggestions? Many thanks.
Awesome video!! Thanks for the info. Hope this will fix my problem with the DX6i transmitter that was given to me.
I set up my flaps and throttle cut into the model already but have not binded the new Valiant. Does my flap/thr cut set up affect the ASX3/Safe or only the switch being used for Safe should be all factory settings? Thanks
Hm, I thought that you need to first go to chanel assign and assign the switch you want and then do the 5 clicks with the correct switch?
I have a small problem, maybe someone can help? *Problem started with a first time bind on a not totaly flat surface, how to fix that?* I have bound my E-Flite F-15 with safe on but if i hold the plane in lvl, the elevator is in a light dive position and the alerons give me a light right bank. If i turn safe of, my controllsurfaces are perfect flat with the wings. I tryed to fix that by rebinding without save and after that with safe again but still have the same problem. How can i change the neutral position for safe?
Hopefully someone can answer this I have the same plane in the video and have a dxs transmitter and flaps are always Down and to put them up you have to hold the bind button and when you let go they go back down how do I change that?
I tried this on my F-27 and it didn't work. I looked thru the manual and found a setting 3-axis gyro. when I turned it on the switch worked turning safe select on and off. Is this right or did I do something wrong in the setup?
I have the transmitter from the aeroscout.dxs.will i be able to bind it to the turbo timber and have the flaps?i will have also 3 levels of safe like the aeroscout?