Timestamps: 00:01:35 - Can you have both an anima and an animus? 00:17:51 - Do you need a relationship in order to develop your anima/animus? 00:22:17 - Is drawing mandalas useful to connect you to the Self? 00:38:57 - Is Jung better linked to Quantum Theory, or Field Theory? 00:50:25 - What resources are there to begin learning psycho-neuro-immunology? 00:54:26 - ADD/ADHD - what's the depth psychology opinion?
"The more potential a child has, the more they will suffer." 01:04:54 This statement should be immortalized. Thanks for sharing your insight and wisdom with the public.
For clarification, the questions I asked that are answered in this video were from almost a month ago, and my understanding has grown quite significantly during that time, as well as several videos on the JTLB channel that have addressed these questions indirectly and have been very informative. I have stopped drawing mandalas as they stopped being useful. I would agree completely with everything discussed in the video. As always, fantastic content. It is much appreciated.
Thanks again Night Child, my friend. Your support is always appreciated. We'll try and catch up with the back-log of questions, by publishing more frequently. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I'm glad that you've touched upon sexuality and gender being separate, as it's alienated a lot of people away from Jung's work, especially lgbt people. This was the case for Jungian Michell L. Walker, who has written many articles on this subject. In his paper The Double (1976) he suggested gay men have a gay anima, which has been depicted in greek mythology as Aphrodite Urania. He went through a lot of myths in these papers, such as the Iliad and the Epic of Gilgamesh. He concluded with these myths and his own personal myth, that gay male love is of two sames, a double image, guiding one another as a source of life and inspiration. I think this relates to what Steve said about how you can be in attracted to someone without the relating image. This would definitely be what Walker is talking about. It's really evident when I talk to bisexuals, they tell me how different homosexual vs hetrosexual attraction can feel.
Hi dee poo, think we've corresponded before? Thanks for the info on Michell L. Walker. Jung was of his time, and his experience, times have changed and will do so again. Hopefully by passing on what we've learned we can inspire the next generation to make discoveries and contributions for the future. Kindest Regards, Steve.
This is by far the best video on this channel! Holy crap!!! it resonated with me so deeply. I always felt a "potential frustration" when I was a kid (and now) with education's and society's malignant SOLO reward/punishment system, which discouraged team-work and cooperation (at least in the schools that I've been in). It was all about learning from the Figure on top (the professor), and comparison with other peers in grades (toxic competitive environment, which discourages individuality and teamwork). Now that I've seen this video, NO F****** WONDER I always ran home and wanted to play video games! And not regular video games, but video games where I played with a team(where everyone has his role and the achievement is mutual, games like World of Warcraft ). Even in outside play when I was a kid, I always loved teamwork games and even invented new ones so that I could play with my peers and have mutual achievements. No wonder, I resent all the solo projects I have to do, and procrastinate for months for my Resume, when its been 'implanted' in me(from society) that my job is gonna be another *solo performance grading / egotism, authoritarian system* for the rest of my life. And no wonder my Instincts are frustrated, or as James would say: "I have problem with the relation(anima) with the stuff I'm supposed to do" and I procrastinate, or drink the anxiety away :( . This video helped me realize that I had the whole concept of what I'm supposed to do WRONG! I thought I was supposed to make my resume(my programming projects) to find a job in a toxic competitive environment, but: I DON' T WANT TO! What I do want, is to work in a highly cooperative environment, team oriented, competitive but not Toxic, where mutual success is valued. And the only thing that "I'M SUPPOSED TO DO" is SEARCH for THAT! Make my resume FOR THAT! And Reject any jobs that do not offer cooperative and individual creative flourishing. Those are my INSTINCTS! My creativity and energy flourishes when I'm in the mood of teamwork. I never looked at myself that way, I didn't Know that that's what my heart/instinct wants... I have tears writing this cause I feel like that part was taken from me... I never thought this way, I didn't know that "I DON'T WANT" to work in a toxic authoritarian reward/punishment environment. And the good thing is is that I DON'T HAVE TO! That's what I learned here. Thank you James, Steve and Pauline! Sorry for writing this "epic". I deeply resonated with the kids school potential frustration, so I had to get stuff out of my chest. I know it will be a long process for me to integrate this realization into reality, probably a lot of stuff I'm missing out on as well, but I feel so liberated after putting this out. Thank you so much, Aleks.
Love the diminution of dogma and elevation of specific relational information! So refreshing. Jung was ‘not a good statistician’ 😂🤣 Love it. More of this honesty - thank you 💜
This first segment makes sense in regards to my own bisexuality, ive always had an instinctive sexual attraction to women, but that's always been along a deep emotional connection to men, a desire to hold or be held by men. I've always considered myself fluid in the sexual sense, but only really now integrating it into my idea of self. Thinking back to my early childhood my mother was by no means my primary care giver, and I have very few memories of the holding or cuddling me, all of that touch and feel and emotion is attached to my father, which I guess makes sense when matched with the idea of sexuql fluidity in women and them having the same sex as their primary caregiver. This was a really interesting talk. Thanks again guys!! Loving your work!
I remember that there was no one diagnosed with ADD or ADHD in the school I was going to. Teachers would often get frustrated at the child for being poor and/or unattended by the parents (for example). Today, I hear that more and more kids are diagnosed with ADD. On the other side old-school parents just call them spoiled and undisciplined. At the same time I see parents who give their kids too much freedom and yet they are overprotective of them. Whenever kids screw something up, the parents blame the third party, probably as some form of projection. IMO teachers and professors should undergo personal development, same as depth psychologists in IPSA, in order to resolve their neurosis before working with children and also to decide whether they want to do it in the first place.
As a woman revisiting this topic, likely not for the last time in this life…. Thank you for this! And thank you to me, for being disciplined enough with my personal stoic / cbt practices that this honestly almost felt personal to watch. I was or have been losing / letting go of my animus… I was literally becoming more and more isolated… anywho THANK YOU ❤ 😅
What an awesome video! Starting to listen really late was a mistake :D The way you three deal with theory and make it understandable for people that don't have the same amount of information is priceless! Thank you.
Thank you so much ! I Learnt a lot from this video . Pauline I could relate so much to your story about the teacher stating she thought your son would be more mature than the others in his class ...I was called into school & told that my daughter would have to mature more, as she was very childish...she was six years of age at the time, I laughed at the absurdity of the teacher! My daughter (now 19) has never suffered fools gladly, she’s always been her own person... I’ve learnt a lot from her actually!ps thanks for the books you recommended.
I've watched a few video's now and it's very interesting to see the dynamic between you three. It's very INTP bound with ESFJ mirroring the core sentiments. There is a clear hole in the shape of introverted intuition which tends to show when talking about things being "woo woo" or in attempting to explain consciousness. Chopping off heads and dead bodies seems like the end of consciousness if indeed consciousness is a case of matter, which using extraverted intuition might seem like the case, but crossing over into dream states and altered consciousness, it seems as if matter itself has nothing to do with it, by which utilising introverted intuition makes sense. There is a level of comfort in rejecting the unknown especially for the INTP but it gives these video's an unmistakeably restrictive sense.
Thank you for tackling the Sexuality question and how it relates to the Anima and Animus. It's quite interesting. Is it possible, that the Anima/Animus development in young people is influenced by modern movements like the Red Pill, Feminism and LGBT?
Hi again Knight Arnold, my friend. Yes, it's certainly possible and just as certainly, this is happening. There's a lot to discuss, and we look forward to addressing this very important topic. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Can you please make a video specifically on dreams and dream analysis? Ive been recording my dreams for some time now but i have no idea how to break them down and understand them properly. I want to make sure im not jumping to any random and incorrect conclusions
Hi Keef Richards this will definitely happen, just been discussing this with James. It’s such a big topic that we’ll make it a series and a downloadable manual. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I was really interested in typology. I started with MBTI and socionics. I landed on an internet forum where people tried to explain everything in terms of typology, every issue in relationships etc. But I became deeply interested and started to read Jung, Fromm, Adler and also work with psychotherapist and I've realized that my colleagues delude themselves i. e. that typology is useless and most important problems can be actually solved without it. Then when I started to explain how the importance of typology is not very great, I was gradually excluded from the community.
Mandalas are important when they’re able to be done without the attachment to great effort, namely without great effort. What I propose is taking any digital image and cropping it, then mirroring it several times to get more complex symmetry. This is something I was doing naturally before learning about psychological use of mandalas. They are definitely distractions, yet are unifying. Making a small ripple here about the importance of these images given the ease of making them with current technology.
God, I'm so glad someone understands this. Cause the voice that has whispered in my head, which indicates how my instincts, self, and potential have viewed life has simply just said, "i don't want to die, i want to live". Just the restriction the confinement and denial of what is natural for me as a person and as a human being was just translated internally as death. Like I've always been called weird but internally, the part that society would've called insane was literally the biggest part of me and has always been the part of me that has looked out for me, had my best interest at heart, cared for me, and shown me the right path. Had a bought into all these "diagnoses" i would've been completely lost. Because even back then my inner voice warned me to stay away. If humanity is to have a future, modern living, modern people have to change. Cause they way we live isn't even for "humans" Honor yourselves people
Hi @kimfreeborn, thanks you for your comment, its very much appreciated. Kindest Regards, and Best Wishes for You, and for Your Journey. Steve & Pauline
Hi again V Lina, unconscious individuation is where it happens naturally, without any knowledge that its even supposed to happen, so that's anyone who has never heard of Jung, or his ideas, and anyone who lived before Jung, with both just achieving it as part of their natural lifespan development. Conscious individuation can happen either because someone sets out to achieve it as a challenge, and so reach their full potential, or because they have suffered so much from their un-lived potential that they have become un-well, and are compelled from within to self-actualize. Where this is forced, their suffering is in direct proportion to their potential. Kindest Regards, Steve.
"These guys went much further away from Jung than ever I've done, and yet they're considered to be the orthodox." Yes. We have a parallel version of this kind of dynamic in the Gurdjieff world. Inversions and syncretism etc... The people who strive to adhere to our original teacher & author (and to check new claims or possible unfoldings against his own track record) are in a minority. The rest have broadly made up some stew that makes them comfortable and excuses them from working hard.
You mentioned just to “go in” to your unconscious, but I’m at a loss as to how. Is there an effective method for communicating with the unconscious? How would I know if it’s genuine and not an ego constructed distraction?
Hi Ryley Griggs, you will just “go in” under a number of natural conditions, opportunities arise during pre-sleep, inward reflection, reverie and so on. What happens, as in all cases, depends on the initial state of the experiencer. This is why prescriptive methods aren’t helpful. Essentially, you need to entrain yourself, and indeed your unconscious, to anticipate and expect, that your ego will make “ respectful” and non- demanding contact with the deeper psyche. The very best hypnosis systems provide the necessary protocols and techniques. However, hypnosis isn’t a single approach. Like general psychotherapy, it varies considerably in quality and efficacy. It is possible and eventually routine to set up a rapid and safe communication with the unconscious by this means. A lot of care though should be exercised in publishing the methods without the safeguards of supervision. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Plenty I’d love to talk more about here but briefly, I like the warmth you all showed towards the ADHD condition. I was moved by what you shared about your experience with your son. What cool parents! I thought you would go to affective / neuroscience and neurodevelopment to explain it but your distillation; frustrated instincts does it. I’ve read that boys in particular, do need movement, particular when their muscles are developing (which explains why they get diagnosed more). We miss the girls, who more often shut down and dissociate. Panksepp asked us, what if they just need to play? I think it might really work for the girls too, to help them reconnect (maybe what I’ve heard you call the relating function, although I know this is connected with CARE, too). I have no Jungian training. I got here to try and understand archetypes for my tarot hobby but have stayed as an intrigued psychotherapist. I get disappointed that Panksepp’s gifts to psychotherapy have not been taken up by my colleagues* and always interested in integrating and using his gifts to us, of primary affects in my practice. My ears always prick up when you mention instincts and it gives me a way in to see how some of the Jungian concepts I’m learning here, relate to modern findings in affective neuroscience, neurodevelopment and attachment. I liked James’s down to earth but equally rooted in affective n.s. response to not being able to read- then why are you doing it! *thanks again for referring me to Solms neuroanalytic org, that I have joined but can’t remember the name of. That’s where my (diagnosed) ADHD and the menopause collide!
Sorry for my awful English, but i have Question: I am artist (drawing, painting), and i have just one simple dream - i want to become artist-animator just like classical Disney animator (or Hayao Miyazaki for example). That's why i am studying "Art" in all forms. I am listening all sorts/types of music; i am reading famous classical, sci-fi & fantasy writers, i am watching tons of movies.. and i still trying to UNDERSTAND "how to create and make good art". HOW ART-MAKING WORKS? I understand that "just start it!", or "just do it!" are not enough and not very effective - because i don't want to waste my precious time on doing huge mistakes. So what i should do? I must sacrifise my concious to instincts? I must rule my instincts?
Have a more specific aim of what you want to achieve in a specfic period of time. If you want to learn to learn the skill of becoming an artist-animator. you first learn how to learn that skill. Once you've established a strong root of your goal, you learn from people you admire and extract a meta truth about all the artists and through trial and error (and listening to the daimon) you can find an art form that is what you were hoping to draw classical animation. That's my view i hoped it helped.
Hi @@oleghrozman4172 , I think that @it is what it is, has given a good answer. The passion you need to invest in your work will be found with your instincts. They will want you to create. Kindest Regards, Steve.
thank you for your hard work i watched and love the vid seminars..... i discovered carl yung works and the shadow and anema and animus concept hit me hard after listening to the discussions you inspired me to dig even deeper in this symbols, is there any books or other sources i can use since this concept helped to feel better but i want a better understanding of my subconscious and my instincts is you guys put it
I dreamt of a mandala without ever drawing one a couple of months ago. I don’t really know anything about them other than Tibetans drawing them. When you say it’s significant, what do you think I should do with the symbol of it? I suppose it depends on the context of the dream. Maybe I should take it to my analyst. I didn’t think much of it at the time.
Hi @idontknowhowigothere33, an imporatnt thing to note about Jung and mandalas, is when, and why, he stopped drawing them. He dispensed with them 35 years before he died, after the understanding of a dream removed the need for them. Many contemporary Jungians, attempt to start where Jung finished, which is mistake 101. The journey, thus aproriated, vicariously, or otherwise by proxy; is neither earned, nor is it original. Above all, Jung wanted people to be original. What that means, is that they aren't supposed to be like him, in any way. Its been truly said that we have more faith in what we imitate, than what we originate. Jung's 'secret' is that he was utterly bound-up with himself, and the phenomenology of the 'problem' of being himself. Find your own way, all the authentic discoveries of your life, will be found there. Kindest Regards, Steve.
@@JungToLiveBy Hi Steve, thanks so much for your reply. Much appreciated. In the video you said if someone had dreamt of a mandala without having drawn them before then that means something and is worth looking at. I have no interest in being like Jung or copying what he does, although I do study alchemy. I wondered why a mandala would appear to someone who doesn’t know much about them after you noted it in the video, but maybe it doesn’t mean much.
In regards to interpretations of things like dreams and other things that could be or need to be interpreted (I’m blanking right now on other things one could interpret, I guess complexes are another thing?). There seems to be many ways to interpret them. To solve this problem, would you say that the interpretation that produces the most helpful practical results is the best one? And to find this, you have to go through a process of trial and error? I’m sure you guys have already answered this but I am formulating it in my own words to make sure I understand what you guys are saying. Thanks.
The video is great and informative, however I feel that it got off-topic quickly with the questions on unrelated topics. I failed to understand in this video how to develop my anima and thus how to reach inner unification.
Very interesting and insightful, thank you. The mentioning of celibacy made me wonder. How do you develop neurosis from not following or fulfilling your sexual instincts? When you have made the choice to live in celibacy, not as a result of being unable to find someone. Though that might actually blur and become unclear or repressed to the individual. Deciding to be celibate may indeed come out of some sort of frustration or disillusionment or feeling of inadequacy. Does the neurosis come particularly from the lack of relating your sexuality to another human being adequately? Developing pedophilia would mean that you haven't actually sublimated those basic instincts at all. It seems to me that you are trying to say that you can't really sublimate them or that this carries great risks for your mental health?
29:31 yeah dreams can have a twisted sense of humor. they mock me in ways that make me feel like shit and laugh at the same time. the dream maker entity is a troll and they cant help themselves
May I have the name of the book again at the end of the talk which encourages women in digging up their instincts? English isn’t my native and have hard time to listen to the full name of the book thanks
Hi M M the book is ‘Women Who Run With The Wolves’ by Clarissa Pinkola Esteses www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1846041090/ref=dbs_a_w_dp_1846041090. Best Wishes, Pauline.
What would you say about omeone who has chosen through a long period of deliberation to thwart their instinct to procreate by becoming celibate after several childless couplings? Not because of any biological, religio/spiritual principle or any dogmatic idea in particular other than their preference for living their life without the desire to have children included. Nevermind their potential, do you think they can truly individuate being predominantly responsible for themselves and perhaps a significant other? Or, how healthy for the psyche can it be to consciously go against such a life promoting instinct?
Hi Jason Mitchell Many thanks, Id say that they were living an authentic and consciously directed life. You don’t need children to individuate. We know plenty of people who have taken that route in life and Pauline and I were together for 16 years before we started a family. Kindest Regards, Steve.
43:52 maybe listen to Rupert Sheldrake talking to Rupert Spira? ua-cam.com/video/zVLczQNVE9Y/v-deo.html I haven't listened to this conversation myself yet but quite some bit into Rupert Spira. Since R. Sheldrake seems to be credible to you, you might give Mr Spira a go. I often fantasize of a Chat between you and him. Looking forward!
Timestamps:
00:01:35 - Can you have both an anima and an animus?
00:17:51 - Do you need a relationship in order to develop your anima/animus?
00:22:17 - Is drawing mandalas useful to connect you to the Self?
00:38:57 - Is Jung better linked to Quantum Theory, or Field Theory?
00:50:25 - What resources are there to begin learning psycho-neuro-immunology?
00:54:26 - ADD/ADHD - what's the depth psychology opinion?
"The more potential a child has, the more they will suffer."
01:04:54
This statement should be immortalized.
Thanks for sharing your insight and wisdom with the public.
Blessings 🙏🌎
Excellent sound improvement. Great work guys.
Thanks, Perenialist Exostentionalist Realist, we hope to upgrade production considerably in the coming months (post lockdown). Kindest Regards, Steve.
For clarification, the questions I asked that are answered in this video were from almost a month ago, and my understanding has grown quite significantly during that time, as well as several videos on the JTLB channel that have addressed these questions indirectly and have been very informative. I have stopped drawing mandalas as they stopped being useful. I would agree completely with everything discussed in the video. As always, fantastic content. It is much appreciated.
Thanks again Night Child, my friend. Your support is always appreciated. We'll try and catch up with the back-log of questions, by publishing more frequently. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I'm glad that you've touched upon sexuality and gender being separate, as it's alienated a lot of people away from Jung's work, especially lgbt people.
This was the case for Jungian Michell L. Walker, who has written many articles on this subject. In his paper The Double (1976) he suggested gay men have a gay anima, which has been depicted in greek mythology as Aphrodite Urania. He went through a lot of myths in these papers, such as the Iliad and the Epic of Gilgamesh. He concluded with these myths and his own personal myth, that gay male love is of two sames, a double image, guiding one another as a source of life and inspiration.
I think this relates to what Steve said about how you can be in attracted to someone without the relating image. This would definitely be what Walker is talking about. It's really evident when I talk to bisexuals, they tell me how different homosexual vs hetrosexual attraction can feel.
Hi dee poo, think we've corresponded before? Thanks for the info on Michell L. Walker. Jung was of his time, and his experience, times have changed and will do so again. Hopefully by passing on what we've learned we can inspire the next generation to make discoveries and contributions for the future. Kindest Regards, Steve.
This is by far the best video on this channel! Holy crap!!! it resonated with me so deeply.
I always felt a "potential frustration" when I was a kid (and now) with education's and society's malignant SOLO reward/punishment system, which discouraged team-work and cooperation (at least in the schools that I've been in). It was all about learning from the Figure on top (the professor), and comparison with other peers in grades (toxic competitive environment, which discourages individuality and teamwork).
Now that I've seen this video, NO F****** WONDER I always ran home and wanted to play video games! And not regular video games, but video games where I played with a team(where everyone has his role and the achievement is mutual, games like World of Warcraft ).
Even in outside play when I was a kid, I always loved teamwork games and even invented new ones so that I could play with my peers and have mutual achievements. No wonder, I resent all the solo projects I have to do, and procrastinate for months for my Resume,
when its been 'implanted' in me(from society) that my job is gonna be another *solo performance grading / egotism, authoritarian system* for the rest of my life. And no wonder my Instincts are frustrated, or as James would say: "I have problem with the relation(anima) with the stuff I'm supposed to do" and I procrastinate, or drink the anxiety away :( .
This video helped me realize that I had the whole concept of what I'm supposed to do WRONG! I thought I was supposed to make my resume(my programming projects) to find a job in a toxic competitive environment, but: I DON' T WANT TO!
What I do want, is to work in a highly cooperative environment, team oriented, competitive but not Toxic, where mutual success is valued.
And the only thing that "I'M SUPPOSED TO DO" is SEARCH for THAT! Make my resume FOR THAT! And Reject any jobs that do not offer cooperative and individual creative flourishing. Those are my INSTINCTS! My creativity and energy flourishes
when I'm in the mood of teamwork. I never looked at myself that way, I didn't Know that that's what my heart/instinct wants...
I have tears writing this cause I feel like that part was taken from me... I never thought this way, I didn't know that "I DON'T WANT" to work in a toxic authoritarian reward/punishment environment. And the good thing is is that I DON'T HAVE TO! That's what I learned here.
Thank you James, Steve and Pauline! Sorry for writing this "epic". I deeply resonated with the kids school potential frustration, so I had to get stuff out of my chest.
I know it will be a long process for me to integrate this realization into reality, probably a lot of stuff I'm missing out on as well, but I feel so liberated after putting this out.
Thank you so much, Aleks.
Blessings Aleks, Pauline.
Hi Aleksander Angelovski, that was very moving, thank you so much for sharing. Respect to you, Steve.
Same here, my friend! Also just started realizing this. Rise and shine, baby😎
Love the diminution of dogma and elevation of specific relational information! So refreshing. Jung was ‘not a good statistician’ 😂🤣 Love it. More of this honesty - thank you 💜
I mean that’s a compliment right 😂
And Sheldrake 😆💃🏼 !!! Love what you said about adhd and diagnosis complexes. Really solid video - thanks
Dear James, Steve and Pauline - these lessons are really hitting home, deeply and viscerally. Thank you
This first segment makes sense in regards to my own bisexuality, ive always had an instinctive sexual attraction to women, but that's always been along a deep emotional connection to men, a desire to hold or be held by men. I've always considered myself fluid in the sexual sense, but only really now integrating it into my idea of self. Thinking back to my early childhood my mother was by no means my primary care giver, and I have very few memories of the holding or cuddling me, all of that touch and feel and emotion is attached to my father, which I guess makes sense when matched with the idea of sexuql fluidity in women and them having the same sex as their primary caregiver. This was a really interesting talk. Thanks again guys!! Loving your work!
I remember that there was no one diagnosed with ADD or ADHD in the school I was going to. Teachers would often get frustrated at the child for being poor and/or unattended by the parents (for example). Today, I hear that more and more kids are diagnosed with ADD. On the other side old-school parents just call them spoiled and undisciplined. At the same time I see parents who give their kids too much freedom and yet they are overprotective of them. Whenever kids screw something up, the parents blame the third party, probably as some form of projection.
IMO teachers and professors should undergo personal development, same as depth psychologists in IPSA, in order to resolve their neurosis before working with children and also to decide whether they want to do it in the first place.
Hell of a video, god bless the 3 of you
Blessings to you too Ethan Guitar! Pauline.
Hi again ethan Guitar, cheers, and huge thanks, Kindest Regards, Steve.
Sheldrake, yes, I find him fascinating also. Great content as ever.
Hi again TheVimFuego, many thanks for your support. Sheldrake is indeed fascinating. Kindest Regards, Steve.
As a woman revisiting this topic, likely not for the last time in this life…. Thank you for this! And thank you to me, for being disciplined enough with my personal stoic / cbt practices that this honestly almost felt personal to watch. I was or have been losing / letting go of my animus… I was literally becoming more and more isolated… anywho THANK YOU ❤ 😅
Blessings, @deeesss, thanks for sharing, and our very Best Wishes to You, and for Your ongoing Journey, Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline🙏🙏
What an awesome video! Starting to listen really late was a mistake :D The way you three deal with theory and make it understandable for people that don't have the same amount of information is priceless! Thank you.
Hi again Andre Silva, thanks so much for your kind comment and your continued support. Blessings, Steve.
Thank you so much ! I Learnt a lot from this video . Pauline I could relate so much to your story about the teacher stating she thought your son would be more mature than the others in his class ...I was called into school & told that my daughter would have to mature more, as she was very childish...she was six years of age at the time, I laughed at the absurdity of the teacher! My daughter (now 19) has never suffered fools gladly, she’s always been her own person... I’ve learnt a lot from her actually!ps thanks for the books you recommended.
Hi Adam And Eve, thanks for sharing your experiences! Blessings to you and your daughter! Pauline.
Hi again Adam And Eve, really great to hear yours and your daughters story. So glad things turned out so well! Kindest Regards, Steve.
Greeting from Ukraine! Thank you for this video! Good job!
Hi again Olegh Rozman, many thanks for your support for our work. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I've watched a few video's now and it's very interesting to see the dynamic between you three. It's very INTP bound with ESFJ mirroring the core sentiments. There is a clear hole in the shape of introverted intuition which tends to show when talking about things being "woo woo" or in attempting to explain consciousness. Chopping off heads and dead bodies seems like the end of consciousness if indeed consciousness is a case of matter, which using extraverted intuition might seem like the case, but crossing over into dream states and altered consciousness, it seems as if matter itself has nothing to do with it, by which utilising introverted intuition makes sense. There is a level of comfort in rejecting the unknown especially for the INTP but it gives these video's an unmistakeably restrictive sense.
Brilliant! Thank you🤍
Thank you for tackling the Sexuality question and how it relates to the Anima and Animus. It's quite interesting.
Is it possible, that the Anima/Animus development in young people is influenced by modern movements like the Red Pill, Feminism and LGBT?
Hi again Knight Arnold, my friend. Yes, it's certainly possible and just as certainly, this is happening. There's a lot to discuss, and we look forward to addressing this very important topic. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Wow, interesting talk. Maybe, I'll visit this channel once again.
Can you please make a video specifically on dreams and dream analysis? Ive been recording my dreams for some time now but i have no idea how to break them down and understand them properly. I want to make sure im not jumping to any random and incorrect conclusions
Hi Keef Richards this will definitely happen, just been discussing this with James. It’s such a big topic that we’ll make it a series and a downloadable manual. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Steven T Richards Thank you, ill be looking forward to it!
I was really interested in typology. I started with MBTI and socionics. I landed on an internet forum where people tried to explain everything in terms of typology, every issue in relationships etc. But I became deeply interested and started to read Jung, Fromm, Adler and also work with psychotherapist and I've realized that my colleagues delude themselves i. e. that typology is useless and most important problems can be actually solved without it. Then when I started to explain how the importance of typology is not very great, I was gradually excluded from the community.
Mandalas are important when they’re able to be done without the attachment to great effort, namely without great effort. What I propose is taking any digital image and cropping it, then mirroring it several times to get more complex symmetry. This is something I was doing naturally before learning about psychological use of mandalas. They are definitely distractions, yet are unifying. Making a small ripple here about the importance of these images given the ease of making them with current technology.
God, I'm so glad someone understands this. Cause the voice that has whispered in my head, which indicates how my instincts, self, and potential have viewed life has simply just said, "i don't want to die, i want to live". Just the restriction the confinement and denial of what is natural for me as a person and as a human being was just translated internally as death. Like I've always been called weird but internally, the part that society would've called insane was literally the biggest part of me and has always been the part of me that has looked out for me, had my best interest at heart, cared for me, and shown me the right path. Had a bought into all these "diagnoses" i would've been completely lost. Because even back then my inner voice warned me to stay away.
If humanity is to have a future, modern living, modern people have to change. Cause they way we live isn't even for "humans"
Honor yourselves people
Thanks Tim G , Respect to You for your journey. Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏
It was interesting that non-trauma related complexes could occur through the use of archetypes to do one's own analyses.
Hi @kimfreeborn, thanks you for your comment, its very much appreciated. Kindest Regards, and Best Wishes for You, and for Your Journey. Steve & Pauline
Always good stuff, thank you!
Thank you so much!
How would you make a distinction between unconscious Individuation versus conscious Individuation?
Hi again V Lina, unconscious individuation is where it happens naturally, without any knowledge that its even supposed to happen, so that's anyone who has never heard of Jung, or his ideas, and anyone who lived before Jung, with both just achieving it as part of their natural lifespan development. Conscious individuation can happen either because someone sets out to achieve it as a challenge, and so reach their full potential, or because they have suffered so much from their un-lived potential that they have become un-well, and are compelled from within to self-actualize. Where this is forced, their suffering is in direct proportion to their potential. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Thank you!
@@avelina8317 Blessings, Steve.
"These guys went much further away from Jung than ever I've done, and yet they're considered to be the orthodox."
Yes. We have a parallel version of this kind of dynamic in the Gurdjieff world. Inversions and syncretism etc... The people who strive to adhere to our original teacher & author (and to check new claims or possible unfoldings against his own track record) are in a minority. The rest have broadly made up some stew that makes them comfortable and excuses them from working hard.
You mentioned just to “go in” to your unconscious, but I’m at a loss as to how. Is there an effective method for communicating with the unconscious? How would I know if it’s genuine and not an ego constructed distraction?
I would start off with reading dreams and doing some creative/artistic work. Tackling your "personal Myth" could also bring you closer.
Hi Ryley Griggs, you will just “go in” under a number of natural conditions, opportunities arise during pre-sleep, inward reflection, reverie and so on. What happens, as in all cases, depends on the initial state of the experiencer. This is why prescriptive methods aren’t helpful. Essentially, you need to entrain yourself, and indeed your unconscious, to anticipate and expect, that your ego will make “ respectful” and non- demanding contact with the deeper psyche. The very best hypnosis systems provide the necessary protocols and techniques. However, hypnosis isn’t a single approach. Like general psychotherapy, it varies considerably in quality and efficacy. It is possible and eventually routine to set up a rapid and safe communication with the unconscious by this means. A lot of care though should be exercised in publishing the methods without the safeguards of supervision. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Steven T Richards Ah, thanks for responding Steve.
Hi Ryley Griggs my pleasure and if I can help further, let me know. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Plenty I’d love to talk more about here but briefly, I like the warmth you all showed towards the ADHD condition. I was moved by what you shared about your experience with your son. What cool parents! I thought you would go to affective / neuroscience and neurodevelopment to explain it but your distillation; frustrated instincts does it. I’ve read that boys in particular, do need movement, particular when their muscles are developing (which explains why they get diagnosed more). We miss the girls, who more often shut down and dissociate. Panksepp asked us, what if they just need to play? I think it might really work for the girls too, to help them reconnect (maybe what I’ve heard you call the relating function, although I know this is connected with CARE, too). I have no Jungian training. I got here to try and understand archetypes for my tarot hobby but have stayed as an intrigued psychotherapist. I get disappointed that Panksepp’s gifts to psychotherapy have not been taken up by my colleagues* and always interested in integrating and using his gifts to us, of primary affects in my practice. My ears always prick up when you mention instincts and it gives me a way in to see how some of the Jungian concepts I’m learning here, relate to modern findings in affective neuroscience, neurodevelopment and attachment. I liked James’s down to earth but equally rooted in affective n.s. response to not being able to read- then why are you doing it!
*thanks again for referring me to Solms neuroanalytic org, that I have joined but can’t remember the name of. That’s where my (diagnosed) ADHD and the menopause collide!
Sorry for my awful English, but i have Question: I am artist (drawing, painting), and i have just one simple dream - i want to become artist-animator just like classical Disney animator (or Hayao Miyazaki for example). That's why i am studying "Art" in all forms. I am listening all sorts/types of music; i am reading famous classical, sci-fi & fantasy writers, i am watching tons of movies.. and i still trying to UNDERSTAND "how to create and make good art". HOW ART-MAKING WORKS? I understand that "just start it!", or "just do it!" are not enough and not very effective - because i don't want to waste my precious time on doing huge mistakes. So what i should do? I must sacrifise my concious to instincts? I must rule my instincts?
Have a more specific aim of what you want to achieve in a specfic period of time. If you want to learn to learn the skill of becoming an artist-animator. you first learn how to learn that skill. Once you've established a strong root of your goal, you learn from people you admire and extract a meta truth about all the artists and through trial and error (and listening to the daimon) you can find an art form that is what you were hoping to draw classical animation. That's my view i hoped it helped.
@@Montenegrin1728 Thank you.
Hi @@oleghrozman4172 , I think that @it is what it is, has given a good answer. The passion you need to invest in your work will be found with your instincts. They will want you to create. Kindest Regards, Steve.
thank you for your hard work i watched and love the vid seminars..... i discovered carl yung works and the shadow and anema and animus concept hit me hard after listening to the discussions you inspired me to dig even deeper in this symbols, is there any books or other sources i can use since this concept helped to feel better but i want a better understanding of my subconscious and my instincts is you guys put it
I dreamt of a mandala without ever drawing one a couple of months ago. I don’t really know anything about them other than Tibetans drawing them. When you say it’s significant, what do you think I should do with the symbol of it? I suppose it depends on the context of the dream. Maybe I should take it to my analyst. I didn’t think much of it at the time.
Hi @idontknowhowigothere33, an imporatnt thing to note about Jung and mandalas, is when, and why, he stopped drawing them. He dispensed with them 35 years before he died, after the understanding of a dream removed the need for them. Many contemporary Jungians, attempt to start where Jung finished, which is mistake 101. The journey, thus aproriated, vicariously, or otherwise by proxy; is neither earned, nor is it original. Above all, Jung wanted people to be original. What that means, is that they aren't supposed to be like him, in any way. Its been truly said that we have more faith in what we imitate, than what we originate. Jung's 'secret' is that he was utterly bound-up with himself, and the phenomenology of the 'problem' of being himself. Find your own way, all the authentic discoveries of your life, will be found there. Kindest Regards, Steve.
@@JungToLiveBy Hi Steve, thanks so much for your reply. Much appreciated. In the video you said if someone had dreamt of a mandala without having drawn them before then that means something and is worth looking at. I have no interest in being like Jung or copying what he does, although I do study alchemy. I wondered why a mandala would appear to someone who doesn’t know much about them after you noted it in the video, but maybe it doesn’t mean much.
Great!!!
In regards to interpretations of things like dreams and other things that could be or need to be interpreted (I’m blanking right now on other things one could interpret, I guess complexes are another thing?). There seems to be many ways to interpret them. To solve this problem, would you say that the interpretation that produces the most helpful practical results is the best one? And to find this, you have to go through a process of trial and error? I’m sure you guys have already answered this but I am formulating it in my own words to make sure I understand what you guys are saying. Thanks.
The video is great and informative, however I feel that it got off-topic quickly with the questions on unrelated topics. I failed to understand in this video how to develop my anima and thus how to reach inner unification.
Very interesting and insightful, thank you.
The mentioning of celibacy made me wonder. How do you develop neurosis from not following or fulfilling your sexual instincts? When you have made the choice to live in celibacy, not as a result of being unable to find someone.
Though that might actually blur and become unclear or repressed to the individual. Deciding to be celibate may indeed come out of some sort of frustration or disillusionment or feeling of inadequacy.
Does the neurosis come particularly from the lack of relating your sexuality to another human being adequately?
Developing pedophilia would mean that you haven't actually sublimated those basic instincts at all. It seems to me that you are trying to say that you can't really sublimate them or that this carries great risks for your mental health?
29:31 yeah dreams can have a twisted sense of humor. they mock me in ways that make me feel like shit and laugh at the same time. the dream maker entity is a troll and they cant help themselves
May I have the name of the book again at the end of the talk which encourages women in digging up their instincts? English isn’t my native and have hard time to listen to the full name of the book thanks
Hi M M the book is ‘Women Who Run With The Wolves’ by Clarissa Pinkola Esteses www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1846041090/ref=dbs_a_w_dp_1846041090. Best Wishes, Pauline.
59:52 woah
What would you say about omeone who has chosen through a long period of deliberation to thwart their instinct to procreate by becoming celibate after several childless couplings? Not because of any biological, religio/spiritual principle or any dogmatic idea in particular other than their preference for living their life without the desire to have children included. Nevermind their potential, do you think they can truly individuate being predominantly responsible for themselves and perhaps a significant other? Or, how healthy for the psyche can it be to consciously go against such a life promoting instinct?
Hi Jason Mitchell Many thanks, Id say that they were living an authentic and consciously directed life. You don’t need children to individuate. We know plenty of people who have taken that route in life and Pauline and I were together for 16 years before we started a family. Kindest Regards, Steve.
43:52 maybe listen to Rupert Sheldrake talking to Rupert Spira? ua-cam.com/video/zVLczQNVE9Y/v-deo.html
I haven't listened to this conversation myself yet but quite some bit into Rupert Spira. Since R. Sheldrake seems to be credible to you, you might give Mr Spira a go.
I often fantasize of a Chat between you and him. Looking forward!